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Post by Bigjeep on Dec 31, 2023 16:27:41 GMT -5
Tommy Cutlets wins this game! Tyrod Stinks!
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Post by Danke Schoen on Dec 31, 2023 16:28:42 GMT -5
I will say Tyrod has is having a good game. I will challenge this.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 31, 2023 16:29:35 GMT -5
How could good Tyrod be with an OL? Hes looked better than our alleged QB1 all year How many wide open guys did Tyrod miss today, six, seven? Fumbled snap too. He was as much a negative as he was a positive. Have to agree the only time he faced jail break pressure was the Jets before he was hurt, he was lost. When he came back maybe it's rust but he holds the ball when he lets it go he makes plays but also left 3 TDs on the field this week and last week and missed the easiest 2 pointer you could want for the win. Giants need a QB bad but they have the Bears and Commanders in the top 2 they can hope fro a Pats win and Cards win
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Post by yoho on Dec 31, 2023 16:33:03 GMT -5
How many wide open guys did Tyrod miss today, six, seven? Fumbled snap too. He was as much a negative as he was a positive. Imagine he has weapons, an OL, etc. still puts up better numbers than our QB1 Why? I am not a DJ fan, but you’re giving a comparison to Taylor with everything he needs to DJ, who never had all of those things. I think the better thing to say is that the Giants have been scoring more points and moving the offense better with backups then with DJ this year.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Dec 31, 2023 16:34:17 GMT -5
All I can say is I'm glad that this game didn't affect a playoff spot, because that was a tough loss. So many chances to win... If Taylor was on his game every play this week and last win both he missed a TD pas and easy 2 pointer east week he missed 2 tDs That's why he is what he is, a backup.
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 31, 2023 16:34:48 GMT -5
Imagine he has weapons, an OL, etc. still puts up better numbers than our QB1 Why? I am not a DJ fan, but you’re giving a comparison to Taylor with everything he needs to DJ, who never had all of those things. I think the better thing to say is that the Giants have been scoring more points and moving the offense better with backups then with DJ this year. that's a fact. We hoped that DJ would improve incrementally from last year, instead he regressed pretty badly...
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 31, 2023 16:43:01 GMT -5
Imagine he has weapons, an OL, etc. still puts up better numbers than our QB1 Why? I am not a DJ fan, but you’re giving a comparison to Taylor with everything he needs to DJ, who never had all of those things. I think the better thing to say is that the Giants have been scoring more points and moving the offense better with backups then with DJ this year. When the OL play got where there was not Multiple free rushers every other play the offense played better they got some pieces back and it helped. Early on with Dallas the Niners and Seahawks it was insane the pressure even the Cardinals first half it's not apples to apples they were missing some important pieces. That said we need a QB we don't have one as far as I'm concerned as it looks now we are gonna be on the outside looking in unless we can get to 3. I'm not interested in if Tommy D is better than Taylor or taylor is better than Jones none of them are good enough.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 31, 2023 16:47:12 GMT -5
If Taylor was on his game every play this week and last win both he missed a TD pas and easy 2 pointer east week he missed 2 tDs That's why he is what he is, a backup. Exactly with the need for QBs if he was better than what he showed these last 2 weeks he would be starting here. He lost the Buffalo game messing up an RPO lost the Eagles game missing 2 wide open TDs and did the same thing today from taking sacks with open out lets available to missing easy plays.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 31, 2023 16:51:45 GMT -5
I am not a DJ fan, but you’re giving a comparison to Taylor with everything he needs to DJ, who never had all of those things. I think the better thing to say is that the Giants have been scoring more points and moving the offense better with backups then with DJ this year. that's a fact. We hoped that DJ would improve incrementally from last year, instead he regressed pretty badly... 2 Neck injuries and an ACL plus his production under pressure deteriorated as the physical punishment took its toll, to me we don't have a starter it will not get better around here till we do, with good QB this team more than likely is in the Playoffs
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Dec 31, 2023 17:01:06 GMT -5
Updated Draft Seeding: 1. Bears via Panthers (2-14) 2. Commanders (4-12) 3. Patriots (4-12) 4. Cardinals (4-12) 5. Giants (5-11) 6. Titans (5-11) 7. Chargers (5-10) - will play against Broncos later on today u yea we almost ****ed ourselves out of the 5; crazy thing is as sorry as philty has been and with TT playing I hope we don't **** up our no. 5 chance to stay 5 smdh We might have a chance to move up to a tie for #4 next week. Don't know tie breakers. If we lose to Philly and N.E. beats the Jets N.E. is 5-12 also with us and the Titans. Titans play Jax who knows what's going on there. P.S. Arizona plays Seattle dare I dream a possible tie for 3rd.
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Post by Roosevelt on Dec 31, 2023 17:02:10 GMT -5
Did we want to lose? 2 point conversion play. Those play calls from the 33 with a shitty kicker? It maybe be better for us in the long run but that is some grade A bullshit. I don't get it.
I would always make the other team beat me. I'm not doing it for them.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Dec 31, 2023 17:20:33 GMT -5
u yea we almost ****ed ourselves out of the 5; crazy thing is as sorry as philty has been and with TT playing I hope we don't **** up our no. 5 chance to stay 5 smdh We might have a chance to move up to a tie for #4 next week. Don't know tie breakers. If we lose to Philly and N.E. beats the Jets N.E. is 5-12 also with us and the Titans. Titans play Jax who knows what's going on there. P.S. Arizona plays Seattle dare I dream a possible tie for 3rd. not sure NE and us ending up with the same record gives us a chance to jump them since we beat them head to head. I dang sure want Seattle to lose lose lose so that drops that 2nd round pick out of the current #21 spot (well that would make it around pick #53 currently)
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Post by myronguyton29 on Dec 31, 2023 17:27:19 GMT -5
Did we want to lose? 2 point conversion play. Those play calls from the 33 with a shitty kicker? It maybe be better for us in the long run but that is some grade A bullshit. I don't get it.
I would always make the other team beat me. I'm not doing it for them.
maybe they see a great scenario in both or either outcome rather it be a win is always good but picking higher (lower in number) in the draft is a better lottery scenario so maybe they go wing it wise when it comes to the game and doing things in the game. Try shit and it it works it works if it doesn't it doesn't. Even with 2 minute situations and such and things he would probably never call or do but when out of playoff contention and such maybe it's a **** it balls to the walls type mindset and if they outcome is good with a win fine it not they tried and we'll be picking higher than potentially going from 5 to 10 or so. Just like a few weeks ago with the 3 game streak well we actually if not for the TD story shit we could've been no. 2 or 3 right now
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Post by SG88 on Dec 31, 2023 17:33:23 GMT -5
I DVR'd the game since I was out running errands. I am going to do this way more often because I get to fast forward through all the commercials. It was a good game to watch. Mason Crosby is about to head back to the couch and we desperately need a consistent QB. Taylor had some good numbers, but he left several plays out there. He is what he is. That 2 point conversion fail was Eli Manning left handed pick against the Titans bad.
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Post by TEM on Dec 31, 2023 17:34:39 GMT -5
Just cracked my first Founders.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Dec 31, 2023 18:11:55 GMT -5
I just rewatched, the spot was correct, it is from where you start the slide Unfortunately the misinformation above is what fuels the “refs always screw us” crew.
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Post by keyofgmen on Dec 31, 2023 18:27:02 GMT -5
We might have a chance to move up to a tie for #4 next week. Don't know tie breakers. If we lose to Philly and N.E. beats the Jets N.E. is 5-12 also with us and the Titans. Titans play Jax who knows what's going on there. P.S. Arizona plays Seattle dare I dream a possible tie for 3rd. not sure NE and us ending up with the same record gives us a chance to jump them since we beat them head to head. I dang sure want Seattle to lose lose lose so that drops that 2nd round pick out of the current #21 spot (well that would make it around pick #53 currently) Strength of Schedule is 1st tie breaker and last I checked Giants would be picking before them, as they have a weaker SOS which sounds odd, but puts them ahead in draft order.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 31, 2023 18:40:50 GMT -5
Steelers are trying to help us advance our second RD from seattle
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Post by 3days on Dec 31, 2023 19:41:34 GMT -5
Did we want to lose? 2 point conversion play. Those play calls from the 33 with a shitty kicker? It maybe be better for us in the long run but that is some grade A bullshit. I don't get it.
I would always make the other team beat me. I'm not doing it for them.
Going for 2 made total sense after the penalty, furthermore the play was perfect, they just screwed it up. I agree that the decisions at the end of the game are suspect.
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Post by McCherry on Dec 31, 2023 20:10:43 GMT -5
I still cant believe these idiots had the Rams dead in their path and blew it... This team makes me want to make my New Year's resolution to be to drink more.
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Post by babybulls on Dec 31, 2023 21:20:50 GMT -5
I just rewatched, the spot was correct, it is from where you start the slide Unfortunately the misinformation above is what fuels the “refs always screw us” crew. Please get another hobby, your schtick is tiring With that Happy New Year 😂
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 31, 2023 22:05:26 GMT -5
I still cant believe these idiots had the Rams dead in their path and blew it... This team makes me want to make my New Year's resolution to be to drink more. Missed extra point makes Tyrod short armed 2 point conversion not necessary good play design work to perfection thats why Daboll looks so frustrated lately, they have open WRs TT admitted he missed a few completely good dude nice backup throws a great deep ball but for every good thing there are 2 bad.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 31, 2023 22:07:49 GMT -5
Unfortunately the misinformation above is what fuels the “refs always screw us” crew. Please get another hobby, your schtick is tiring With that Happy New Year 😂 Good dude but the crusade to justify the officials who deserve 0 loyalty is getting old but everyone has a right to there own opinion.
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Post by miggs on Jan 1, 2024 5:32:47 GMT -5
Daboll's glib one-sentence post-game answers to press questions posed to him were so predictable and painful to listen to.
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Post by scoostraw on Jan 1, 2024 8:17:17 GMT -5
Daboll's glib one-sentence post-game answers to press questions posed to him were so predictable and painful to listen to. I don't bother watching his pressers any more.
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Post by inthezone on Jan 1, 2024 8:20:50 GMT -5
I still cant believe these idiots had the Rams dead in their path and blew it... This team makes me want to make my New Year's resolution to be to drink more. Missed extra point makes Tyrod short armed 2 point conversion not necessary good play design work to perfection thats why Daboll looks so frustrated lately, they have open WRs TT admitted he missed a few completely good dude nice backup throws a great deep ball but for every good thing there are 2 bad. Wouldn't that make him a bad back up?
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Post by Danke Schoen on Jan 1, 2024 11:25:30 GMT -5
Daboll's glib one-sentence post-game answers to press questions posed to him were so predictable and painful to listen to. Now you know how we feel reading your posts.
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Post by miggs on Jan 1, 2024 12:16:45 GMT -5
Daboll's glib one-sentence post-game answers to press questions posed to him were so predictable and painful to listen to. Now you know how we feel reading your posts. Can understand your feeing that way when I said early on that Neal was not a good player.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Jan 1, 2024 12:21:14 GMT -5
Now you know how we feel reading your posts. Can understand your feeing that way when I said early on that Neal was not very good. Or Jones = Montana Or the Giants offense will be one of the best in the NFL with Jones this year. Or Toney will be an All Pro in KC and Schoen is an idiotic and disastrous GM for making this trade. Or… But at least someone as “special” as you knows when to walk back on your months of idiocy. You’ve gone from posting 100x a day to 1x a month.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 1, 2024 12:33:18 GMT -5
not sure NE and us ending up with the same record gives us a chance to jump them since we beat them head to head. I dang sure want Seattle to lose lose lose so that drops that 2nd round pick out of the current #21 spot (well that would make it around pick #53 currently) Strength of Schedule is 1st tie breaker and last I checked Giants would be picking before them, as they have a weaker SOS which sounds odd, but puts them ahead in draft order. oh wow so head to head isn't first?
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