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Post by TCHOF on Mar 11, 2024 14:22:02 GMT -5
Solid signing
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Post by odellhasfun on Mar 11, 2024 14:22:08 GMT -5
I googled him and it said hes 50 years old. I hope it was a 1 year deal
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Post by vinnie on Mar 11, 2024 14:22:31 GMT -5
So we signed him for more on Runyan than Glowinski is making and he's not as good? Won't make any judgement yet, will wait to see how it plays out. Not close to a home run on paper. a minimum, he can pass protect very well. he's an average player, if we have an average OL plus Andrew Thomas im happy. Can’t say this signing makes “it” move but average would be a huge upgrade to what we’ve had. |
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Post by vinnie on Mar 11, 2024 14:23:30 GMT -5
Never missed a game in 3 years since becoming a starter. Until he played for the Giants. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 11, 2024 14:25:44 GMT -5
has anyone seen the contract terms yet? The top guards were getting crazy $$'s...
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Post by inconvenientruth on Mar 11, 2024 14:26:05 GMT -5
a minimum, he can pass protect very well. he's an average player, if we have an average OL plus Andrew Thomas im happy. Can’t say this signing makes “it” move but average would be a huge upgrade to what we’ve had. Absolutely And the price! Jonah Jackson and Robert Hunt are not worth $7MM-$10MM AAV more than Runyan. OG seems to be a 'new' premium position. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 11, 2024 14:27:49 GMT -5
I googled him and it said hes 50 years old. I hope it was a 1 year deal I didn’t even realize he had a son. lol |
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Post by Nick6475 on Mar 11, 2024 14:31:00 GMT -5
Hunt signs with Panthers for $100M/5 Years $63M guaranteed.....holy crap
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 11, 2024 14:32:38 GMT -5
I think it's a good signing at the price we're playing...
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 11, 2024 14:32:46 GMT -5
I know his PFF grades are trash but this is a big improvement from what we've had.
He's given up 2, 3 and 2 sacks the last three years on 900+, 1000+ and 1000+ snaps. He's also only had 6, 1 and 1 penalties. This kid can play. I had him as OG #4.
3 years, $30m is a good deal for him.
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 11, 2024 14:33:21 GMT -5
has anyone seen the contract terms yet? The top guards were getting crazy $$'s... 3 years, $30m
very good deal IMO.
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Post by cdngfan on Mar 11, 2024 14:37:08 GMT -5
The FO pointed out in the year end presser that injuries/ lack of depth and coaching were the issues this year.
A lot of fans are expecting big signings on the line but the FO has been signaling that that depth and better coaching is what’s been holding this unit back.
That Raiders line that Bracillo had playing mid-pack last year had 2 undrafted FAs and a 5th player on it.
They’re right, or they’re wrong. But the strategy is there for people to see pretty clearly.
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Post by SG88 on Mar 11, 2024 14:39:45 GMT -5
This move is OK. Nothing to brag or bitch about. We needed a quality guard and got one.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 11, 2024 14:41:19 GMT -5
I read the win over the Eagles would carry the Giants through the off-season. True story
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 11, 2024 14:43:49 GMT -5
90% of these big-money first day deals will turn out to be terrible deals, yet every year fans wail and gnash their teeth when their teams don't play at the high end of the market
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Mar 11, 2024 14:44:39 GMT -5
The FO pointed out in the year end presser that injuries/ lack of depth and coaching were the issues this year. A lot of fans are expecting big signings on the line but the FO has been signaling that that depth and better coaching is what’s been holding this unit back. That Raiders line that Bracillo had playing mid-pack last year had 2 undrafted FAs and a 5rd player on it. They’re right, or they’re wrong. But the strategy is there for people to see pretty clearly. The FO is filled with idiots. Joe Schoen is the worse GM in football and the Mara's are really staking their claim for worse owners in football. This once great franchise needs an exorcism. |
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Post by giants8493 on Mar 11, 2024 14:52:16 GMT -5
John Jerry 2.0
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Post by SG88 on Mar 11, 2024 14:53:58 GMT -5
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Post by lasion2 on Mar 11, 2024 14:54:17 GMT -5
Translation: we didn’t pay Saquon, we won’t pay McKinney, but we won’t pay for a Robert Hunt either. So here’s your new value Guard. Make sure we keep our expectations tempered. They are tempered. Clearly punting to 2025, earliest. Which is fine with me. As long as the rest of the moves are in line with that thinking. Trading multiple high picks for tee Higgins or signing Derrick Henry for 10 million would make me pretty mad |
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 11, 2024 14:55:43 GMT -5
So a good pass blocking guard and absolute liability in the run game? |
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Post by cdngfan on Mar 11, 2024 14:56:23 GMT -5
Translation: we didn’t pay Saquon, we won’t pay McKinney, but we won’t pay for a Robert Hunt either. So here’s your new value Guard. Make sure we keep our expectations tempered. Maybe some perspective I just noticed: We resigned Andrew Thomas, a great LT for $3.4 million more than the Panthers paid for a guard. Almost the same guaranteed money too. There’s a hill to die on, FA guards aren’t it. |
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Post by miggs on Mar 11, 2024 15:02:37 GMT -5
Where does Runyon rank in run-blocking? Looks like a back-up. Giants overpaid but at least he's an upgrade over Glowinski. Will be interesting to see if a good OL free agent is willing to join the lowly considered Giants. Giants still need to sign two good OL free agents.
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Post by repeatchamps on Mar 11, 2024 15:51:16 GMT -5
Where does Runyon rank in run-blocking? Looks like a back-up. Giants overpaid but at least he's an upgrade over Glowinski. Will be interesting to see if a good OL free agent is willing to join the lowly considered Giants. Giants still need to sign two good OL free agents. Actually Runyan is a top 10 pass blocking Guard in the NFL for multiple years in a row. He is not a back up. I did see somewhere though that Glowinski's run blocking grade on PFF is better than Runyan's. |
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 11, 2024 16:04:55 GMT -5
As a Michigan man and fan I am underwhelmed.
He ain’t his dad. Not even close.
i’m surprised he even made it in the NFL which leads me to believe he’s at least improved some since he was a 50-50 liability while at Michigan.
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Post by bluebuddha on Mar 11, 2024 16:10:59 GMT -5
Where does Runyon rank in run-blocking? Looks like a back-up. Giants overpaid but at least he's an upgrade over Glowinski. Will be interesting to see if a good OL free agent is willing to join the lowly considered Giants. Giants still need to sign two good OL free agents. Actually Runyan is a top 10 pass blocking Guard in the NFL for multiple years in a row. He is not a back up. I did see somewhere though that Glowinski's run blocking grade on PFF is better than Runyan's. I really don't think Joe, Daboll and Kafka care about run blocking or the run game at this point. Thier job is to fix the other 70% of the offense this year. |
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Post by inthezone on Mar 11, 2024 16:13:12 GMT -5
90% of these big-money first day deals will turn out to be terrible deals, yet every year fans wail and gnash their teeth when their teams don't play at the high end of the market The Giants last two big big FA deals ended up terrible also. I'm still hopeful they can get a starting RT by over paying though. |
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Post by repeatchamps on Mar 11, 2024 16:15:57 GMT -5
Actually Runyan is a top 10 pass blocking Guard in the NFL for multiple years in a row. He is not a back up. I did see somewhere though that Glowinski's run blocking grade on PFF is better than Runyan's. I really don't think Joe, Daboll and Kafka care about run blocking or the run game at this point. Thier job is to fix the other 70% of the offense this year. Maybe so but just getting Runyan will not be enough to assist whoever the QB will be to lift the passing game to competency. They need to add even another starting O-linemen in free agency. Whether that be the Raiders guy or breaking the bank for Onwenu either way Runyan is not enough no matter who the QB will be. Not sure if they go QB in the draft but if they do they need a true #1 WR too. |
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 11, 2024 16:33:21 GMT -5
90% of these big-money first day deals will turn out to be terrible deals, yet every year fans wail and gnash their teeth when their teams don't play at the high end of the market The Giants last two big big FA deals ended up terrible also. I'm still hopeful they can get a starting RT by over paying though. Gotta say that I'm not all that enthused about paying $20M+ per year for one of these guards .... |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 11, 2024 16:35:43 GMT -5
The FO pointed out in the year end presser that injuries/ lack of depth and coaching were the issues this year. A lot of fans are expecting big signings on the line but the FO has been signaling that that depth and better coaching is what’s been holding this unit back. That Raiders line that Bracillo had playing mid-pack last year had 2 undrafted FAs and a 5rd player on it. They’re right, or they’re wrong. But the strategy is there for people to see pretty clearly. The pearl clutchers always scream to extremely overpay for the top FA name. Then in two years will call for Schoen to be fired for overpaying for the top FA name. |
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Post by inthezone on Mar 11, 2024 16:36:13 GMT -5
The Giants last two big big FA deals ended up terrible also. I'm still hopeful they can get a starting RT by over paying though. Gotta say that I'm not all that enthused about paying $20M+ per year for one of these guards .... Same here. cdngfan fan made an exellent post saying the Giants signed Thomas for 3.4 million more then Hunt got. |
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