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Post by vinnie on Oct 22, 2024 6:50:51 GMT -5
Cam Ward is insane and the clear top of QBs in this draft class. Sanders, I just don't know, there is something off about him. The teams ahead of the NYG are just as pathetic and with Cleveland already starting to ship talent out, I just don't see them winning another game. The Panthers are a hot mess, NE may win one but maybe no more. Tenn may win another, maybe. Each of the one win teams needs a qb, badly. I have a feeling there will be a race to Cam Ward that the NFL won't be happy about. Granted, I’ve only watched two Miami games but I’m not sold on Ward. Let me get this out of the way. I’m not a scout. Scouts don’t even get it right most of the time. I’m not a QB guru. I liked Rosen and didn’t like Maye, but there’s plenty of others I liked and didn’t like and was right about. My point is this is just my opinion and I very well may be wrong…. I’m definitely out on Ewers and Beck and while I did see some very redeeming qualities in Ward, I saw plenty of mistakes and bad throws. And before someone says “he has all the tools and traits”, yeah, so does DJ (minus the brain) so don’t try to sell me on that. Also, one of my biggest concerns is his lack of competition which HAS to be taken into account. Ewers and Beck both look kinda good when they’re playing scrubs but when they face good teams they looked like trash more often than not. If they struggle against good college teams, how will they do against NFL teams? Not good, IMO. IIRC Ward hasn’t faced a top 25 team yet and there may not even be one on the rest of Miami’s schedule. I’m not saying that’s a reason to think he sucks or won’t be good in the NFL but it’s something that should be taken into consideration. And nothing directed towards you personally, but I’ve seen Wards name thrown around a lot lately. I used to see Ewers and Becks name thrown around a lot but that has faded a bit. I wonder how many people pitching these names even watched most of these QB’s games or if they’re just “following the herd” or watched a few youtube highlight videos? I’m thinking the latter and I’ll be the first to admit what QB’s I’ve watched a lot of and which ones I haven’t but I think the majority of people just hear names on the radio or tv and start advocating for them. *ha, I just realized your name after I posted this and lol’d at my last sentence. I still didn’t mean that last paragraph towards you |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 22, 2024 7:23:20 GMT -5
Cam Ward is insane and the clear top of QBs in this draft class. Sanders, I just don't know, there is something off about him. The teams ahead of the NYG are just as pathetic and with Cleveland already starting to ship talent out, I just don't see them winning another game. The Panthers are a hot mess, NE may win one but maybe no more. Tenn may win another, maybe. Each of the one win teams needs a qb, badly. I have a feeling there will be a race to Cam Ward that the NFL won't be happy about. Granted, I’ve only watched two Miami games but I’m not sold on Ward. Let me get this out of the way. I’m not a scout. Scouts don’t even get it right most of the time. I’m not a QB guru. I liked Rosen and didn’t like Maye, but there’s plenty of others I liked and didn’t like and was right about. My point is this is just my opinion and I very well may be wrong…. I’m definitely out on Ewers and Beck and while I did see some very redeeming qualities in Ward, I saw plenty of mistakes and bad throws. And before someone says “he has all the tools and traits”, yeah, so does DJ (minus the brain) so don’t try to sell me on that. Also, one of my biggest concerns is his lack of competition which HAS to be taken into account. Ewers and Beck both look kinda good when they’re playing scrubs but when they face good teams they looked like trash more often than not. If they struggle against good college teams, how will they do against NFL teams? Not good, IMO. IIRC Ward hasn’t faced a top 25 team yet and there may not even be one on the rest of Miami’s schedule. I’m not saying that’s a reason to think he sucks or won’t be good in the NFL but it’s something that should be taken into consideration. And nothing directed towards you personally, but I’ve seen Wards name thrown around a lot lately. I used to see Ewers and Becks name thrown around a lot but that has faded a bit. I wonder how many people pitching these names even watched most of these QB’s games or if they’re just “following the herd” or watched a few youtube highlight videos? I’m thinking the latter and I’ll be the first to admit what QB’s I’ve watched a lot of and which ones I haven’t but I think the majority of people just hear names on the radio or tv and start advocating for them. *ha, I just realized your name after I posted this and lol’d at my last sentence. I still didn’t mean that last paragraph towards you the nice thing about college football this year we’re going to get this playoff. The bad thing about college football is we’re going to see these QBs in the playoff lol Ward is a bit bipolar. Great mechanics then throws across his body. Runs fast then jogs to almost a stop. Threads the needle then the ball hit a bench on the sidelines. Sanders has a great personality for the media Beck? 3rd Rounder only b/c he’s a QB? Ewers? Pulled for Manning vs GA and then back in? Milroe? Ok, no pressure throws an accurate ball. Otherwise? Nussmeier’s stock may rise. He might be the one to watch. The playoff will be big for him Allar - big kid, big arm. Is he Kerry Collins? Moss - quick release and a pretty ball. The good passes the eye test. Long stretches where nothing happens where would McCarthy go in this draft? Should the Giants pick have been McCarthy or was Nabers supposed to cure Jones? Smh |
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Post by vinnie on Oct 22, 2024 7:30:34 GMT -5
Granted, I’ve only watched two Miami games but I’m not sold on Ward. Let me get this out of the way. I’m not a scout. Scouts don’t even get it right most of the time. I’m not a QB guru. I liked Rosen and didn’t like Maye, but there’s plenty of others I liked and didn’t like and was right about. My point is this is just my opinion and I very well may be wrong…. I’m definitely out on Ewers and Beck and while I did see some very redeeming qualities in Ward, I saw plenty of mistakes and bad throws. And before someone says “he has all the tools and traits”, yeah, so does DJ (minus the brain) so don’t try to sell me on that. Also, one of my biggest concerns is his lack of competition which HAS to be taken into account. Ewers and Beck both look kinda good when they’re playing scrubs but when they face good teams they looked like trash more often than not. If they struggle against good college teams, how will they do against NFL teams? Not good, IMO. IIRC Ward hasn’t faced a top 25 team yet and there may not even be one on the rest of Miami’s schedule. I’m not saying that’s a reason to think he sucks or won’t be good in the NFL but it’s something that should be taken into consideration. And nothing directed towards you personally, but I’ve seen Wards name thrown around a lot lately. I used to see Ewers and Becks name thrown around a lot but that has faded a bit. I wonder how many people pitching these names even watched most of these QB’s games or if they’re just “following the herd” or watched a few youtube highlight videos? I’m thinking the latter and I’ll be the first to admit what QB’s I’ve watched a lot of and which ones I haven’t but I think the majority of people just hear names on the radio or tv and start advocating for them. *ha, I just realized your name after I posted this and lol’d at my last sentence. I still didn’t mean that last paragraph towards you the nice thing about college football this year we’re going to get this playoff. The bad thing about college football is we’re going to see these QBs in the playoff lol Ward is a bit bipolar. Great mechanics then throws across his body. Runs fast then jogs to almost a stop. Threads the needle then the ball hit a bench on the sidelines. Sanders has a great personality for the media Beck? 3rd Rounder only b/c he’s a QB? Ewers? Pulled for Manning vs GA and then back in? Milroe? Ok, no pressure throws an accurate ball. Otherwise? Nussmeier’s stock may rise. He might be the one to watch. The playoff will be big for him Allar - big kid, big arm. Is he Kerry Collins? Moss - quick release and a pretty ball. The good passes the eye test. Long stretches where nothing happens Great year to get a QB 👍 or bring back Jones again. For sure, Ward made some insane throws when I watched but as you said, he would follow it up with bullshit. I just get sick of hearing “oh, but that’s easy to fix” or “that’s correctable”. Do you realize how many times we, as in Giants fans, have heard that from other fans about several players on our current or past team and they never do get corrected or fixed? Rhetorical question obviously, I know you know. But that’s part of what concerns me about Ward…and the lack of competition he’s faced. Agree with all your assessments, especially Sanders, but I’ve watched pretty much no games of the last 3 QB’s you mentioned but since I’m finally off Ewers and Beck for sure, I’ll start paying more attention. |
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Post by devilsadvocate on Oct 22, 2024 8:39:38 GMT -5
Cam Ward is insane and the clear top of QBs in this draft class. Sanders, I just don't know, there is something off about him. The teams ahead of the NYG are just as pathetic and with Cleveland already starting to ship talent out, I just don't see them winning another game. The Panthers are a hot mess, NE may win one but maybe no more. Tenn may win another, maybe. Each of the one win teams needs a qb, badly. I have a feeling there will be a race to Cam Ward that the NFL won't be happy about. Granted, I’ve only watched two Miami games but I’m not sold on Ward. Let me get this out of the way. I’m not a scout. Scouts don’t even get it right most of the time. I’m not a QB guru. I liked Rosen and didn’t like Maye, but there’s plenty of others I liked and didn’t like and was right about. My point is this is just my opinion and I very well may be wrong…. I’m definitely out on Ewers and Beck and while I did see some very redeeming qualities in Ward, I saw plenty of mistakes and bad throws. And before someone says “he has all the tools and traits”, yeah, so does DJ (minus the brain) so don’t try to sell me on that. Also, one of my biggest concerns is his lack of competition which HAS to be taken into account. Ewers and Beck both look kinda good when they’re playing scrubs but when they face good teams they looked like trash more often than not. If they struggle against good college teams, how will they do against NFL teams? Not good, IMO. IIRC Ward hasn’t faced a top 25 team yet and there may not even be one on the rest of Miami’s schedule. I’m not saying that’s a reason to think he sucks or won’t be good in the NFL but it’s something that should be taken into consideration. And nothing directed towards you personally, but I’ve seen Wards name thrown around a lot lately. I used to see Ewers and Becks name thrown around a lot but that has faded a bit. I wonder how many people pitching these names even watched most of these QB’s games or if they’re just “following the herd” or watched a few youtube highlight videos? I’m thinking the latter and I’ll be the first to admit what QB’s I’ve watched a lot of and which ones I haven’t but I think the majority of people just hear names on the radio or tv and start advocating for them. *ha, I just realized your name after I posted this and lol’d at my last sentence. I still didn’t mean that last paragraph towards you My son goes to VT and thus I watch a lot of ACC games and this year I have watched Miami quite a bit including their win over VT. That said, I am no scout either Vinnie. The guy has made some great throws, is athletic and can run and has also engineered some great crunch time drives. Maybe I am influenced by the announcers and other talking heads but he seems the best of the bunch. Do I think he is a can't miss or a generational talent like people talked about Trevor Laurence? No way. Besides I'm not qualified to make that determination. But in a QB dominated league, he stands out above the rest, plays in a good conference, and passes the smell test while I watch him. If the rest of the draft class is "meh" then Ward has distanced himself from "meh". The top QB prospect should go #1 in the draft based on the league's history and how QB needy the bad teams are. |
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Post by idkaname on Oct 22, 2024 9:07:12 GMT -5
Oooooh... can only hope we lose those meaningless games so we can draft the next generational QB who will dominate the NFL for a decade-plus* * dominate = 22-35 record, one playoff win and stats comparable to Daniel JonesLet me ask you this Danke, which option would you rather have taken as of today? 1) Lose to Philly, Washington and NE last year but end up with Daniels or Maye (who is looking good but too early) or 2) Win all 3 of those games and end up with Nabers like we did Easy nabers. What’s the point of having Maye get carred or Daniels run around like a fool and get hurt ? Would’ve been another wasted pick, at least we have a real weapon for a new QB now. |
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Post by vinnie on Oct 22, 2024 10:40:44 GMT -5
Granted, I’ve only watched two Miami games but I’m not sold on Ward. Let me get this out of the way. I’m not a scout. Scouts don’t even get it right most of the time. I’m not a QB guru. I liked Rosen and didn’t like Maye, but there’s plenty of others I liked and didn’t like and was right about. My point is this is just my opinion and I very well may be wrong…. I’m definitely out on Ewers and Beck and while I did see some very redeeming qualities in Ward, I saw plenty of mistakes and bad throws. And before someone says “he has all the tools and traits”, yeah, so does DJ (minus the brain) so don’t try to sell me on that. Also, one of my biggest concerns is his lack of competition which HAS to be taken into account. Ewers and Beck both look kinda good when they’re playing scrubs but when they face good teams they looked like trash more often than not. If they struggle against good college teams, how will they do against NFL teams? Not good, IMO. IIRC Ward hasn’t faced a top 25 team yet and there may not even be one on the rest of Miami’s schedule. I’m not saying that’s a reason to think he sucks or won’t be good in the NFL but it’s something that should be taken into consideration. And nothing directed towards you personally, but I’ve seen Wards name thrown around a lot lately. I used to see Ewers and Becks name thrown around a lot but that has faded a bit. I wonder how many people pitching these names even watched most of these QB’s games or if they’re just “following the herd” or watched a few youtube highlight videos? I’m thinking the latter and I’ll be the first to admit what QB’s I’ve watched a lot of and which ones I haven’t but I think the majority of people just hear names on the radio or tv and start advocating for them. *ha, I just realized your name after I posted this and lol’d at my last sentence. I still didn’t mean that last paragraph towards you My son goes to VT and thus I watch a lot of ACC games and this year I have watched Miami quite a bit including their win over VT. That said, I am no scout either Vinnie. The guy has made some great throws, is athletic and can run and has also engineered some great crunch time drives. Maybe I am influenced by the announcers and other talking heads but he seems the best of the bunch. Do I think he is a can't miss or a generational talent like people talked about Trevor Laurence? No way. Besides I'm not qualified to make that determination. But in a QB dominated league, he stands out above the rest, plays in a good conference, and passes the smell test while I watch him. If the rest of the draft class is "meh" then Ward has distanced himself from "meh". The top QB prospect should go #1 in the draft based on the league's history and how QB needy the bad teams are. Great response! It’s nice to know you’ve watched a lot of his games due to your sons affiliation with the ACC. Likewise, I’m a UT fan so I’ve watched the majority of Ewers games. As you mentioned, it doesn’t make either one of us experts but who is? These QB’s are over hyped by the “experts” and bust all the time due to different reasons. On a side note, I still think Lawrence has a lot of upside, and ended up in a shitty situation where as DJ ended up in a shitty situation but I never believed in his upside. Looking forward to watching more of Cam, he’s definitely intriguing to say the least. I just wish I could watch him play a few games against better teams. |
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Post by giantbob71 on Oct 23, 2024 5:20:56 GMT -5
Let me ask you this Danke, which option would you rather have taken as of today? 1) Lose to Philly, Washington and NE last year but end up with Daniels or Maye (who is looking good but too early) or 2) Win all 3 of those games and end up with Nabers like we did Easy nabers. What’s the point of having Maye get carred or Daniels run around like a fool and get hurt ? Would’ve been another wasted pick, at least we have a real weapon for a new QB now. Always take the QB...Wrs are much easier to find. You're acting like Daniels stepped into a good situation? WTF was terrible last year, and Daniels has almost single handedly made them a playoff team, when he's healthy. We need to wait a few weeks on Maye...but no GM, without a QB, would take Nabers over Daniels from what we've seen this season. Anything can happen, but Daniels looks the part. There's a Nabers in every draft. |
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Post by bluebuddha on Oct 23, 2024 7:25:42 GMT -5
Easy nabers. What’s the point of having Maye get carred or Daniels run around like a fool and get hurt ? Would’ve been another wasted pick, at least we have a real weapon for a new QB now. Always take the QB...Wrs are much easier to find. You're acting like Daniels stepped into a good situation? WTF was terrible last year, and Daniels has almost single handedly made them a playoff team, when he's healthy. We need to wait a few weeks on Maye...but no GM, without a QB, would take Nabers over Daniels from what we've seen this season. Anything can happen, but Daniels looks the part. There's a Nabers in every draft. QB are catalysts. You can only mask thier deficiencies for so long. This team is going through motions with DJ. The players know they have to work extra hard to make up for DJ. It will wear on them. Even worse is the message Schoen sent by not paying for production in McKimnney and Barkley but paying DJ for subpar to mediocre play. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 23, 2024 7:31:12 GMT -5
Easy nabers. What’s the point of having Maye get carred or Daniels run around like a fool and get hurt ? Would’ve been another wasted pick, at least we have a real weapon for a new QB now. Always take the QB...Wrs are much easier to find. You're acting like Daniels stepped into a good situation? WTF was terrible last year, and Daniels has almost single handedly made them a playoff team, when he's healthy. We need to wait a few weeks on Maye...but no GM, without a QB, would take Nabers over Daniels from what we've seen this season. Anything can happen, but Daniels looks the part. There's a Nabers in every draft. so true 👍. Washington had a fire sale last season including both their top defensive ends. They had little on offense and QB play has been a huge plus for them. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 23, 2024 7:36:48 GMT -5
Always take the QB...Wrs are much easier to find. You're acting like Daniels stepped into a good situation? WTF was terrible last year, and Daniels has almost single handedly made them a playoff team, when he's healthy. We need to wait a few weeks on Maye...but no GM, without a QB, would take Nabers over Daniels from what we've seen this season. Anything can happen, but Daniels looks the part. There's a Nabers in every draft. QB are catalysts. You can only mask thier deficiencies for so long. This team is going through motions with DJ. The players know they have to work extra hard to make up for DJ. It will wear on them. Even worse is the message Schoen sent by not paying for production in McKimnney and Barkley but paying DJ for subpar to mediocre play without wins and if Barkley starts carrying the Eagles this is going to get real nasty. |
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Post by giantbob71 on Oct 23, 2024 12:56:24 GMT -5
QB are catalysts. You can only mask thier deficiencies for so long. This team is going through motions with DJ. The players know they have to work extra hard to make up for DJ. It will wear on them. Even worse is the message Schoen sent by not paying for production in McKimnney and Barkley but paying DJ for subpar to mediocre play without wins and if Barkley starts carrying the Eagles this is going to get real nasty. Agree, if Barkley gets up in the MVP discussion...Schoen better find a great disguise. Ha! |
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Post by idkaname on Oct 23, 2024 14:56:45 GMT -5
Easy nabers. What’s the point of having Maye get carred or Daniels run around like a fool and get hurt ? Would’ve been another wasted pick, at least we have a real weapon for a new QB now. Always take the QB...Wrs are much easier to find. You're acting like Daniels stepped into a good situation? WTF was terrible last year, and Daniels has almost single handedly made them a playoff team, when he's healthy. We need to wait a few weeks on Maye...but no GM, without a QB, would take Nabers over Daniels from what we've seen this season. Anything can happen, but Daniels looks the part. There's a Nabers in every draft. this would make sense if Marcus Mariota didn’t play just as good if not better than when Daniels was in last week…OFF THE BENCH. But I’m told Lock was rusty because he came in mid-game 🤡 keep moving goal posts |
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Post by giantbob71 on Oct 23, 2024 15:28:44 GMT -5
Always take the QB...Wrs are much easier to find. You're acting like Daniels stepped into a good situation? WTF was terrible last year, and Daniels has almost single handedly made them a playoff team, when he's healthy. We need to wait a few weeks on Maye...but no GM, without a QB, would take Nabers over Daniels from what we've seen this season. Anything can happen, but Daniels looks the part. There's a Nabers in every draft. this would make sense if Marcus Mariota didn’t play just as good if not better than when Daniels was in last week…OFF THE BENCH. But I’m told Lock was rusty because he came in mid-game 🤡 keep moving goal posts Give Marriota time. Answer this...why isn't he still stsrting in Tennessee or Atlanta. One half isn't a sample size. |
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Post by balloonknot on Oct 23, 2024 16:59:30 GMT -5
Lets Keep Jones for year 7, Draft high this year, And then draft Arch Manning in 2026, since Jones will shit the bed again. It is after all the one constant. Not sure what you’re getting at but I’ve been squarely in the “release Jones” camp and have just also entered “bench him now so he passes a physical” camp. I am more or less on your side. I'm just sayin, Keeping will guarantee that we have a high draft choice and might be able to parlay that into the pick needed to get Arch. But in all seriousness, I do not expect Jones to continue to start much longer. Don't know how the team can justify the risk to the cap when it is obvious he's gone next year. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Oct 23, 2024 17:02:20 GMT -5
Not sure what you’re getting at but I’ve been squarely in the “release Jones” camp and have just also entered “bench him now so he passes a physical” camp. I am more or less on your side. I'm just sayin, Keeping will guarantee that we have a high draft choice and might be able to parlay that into the pick needed to get Arch. But in all seriousness, I do not expect Jones to continue to start much longer. Don't know how the team can justify the risk to the cap when it is obvious he's gone next year. There's no f'in way Jones is on the roster at the start of the 2025 season. This offseason is the out the contract was built for. |
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Post by idkaname on Oct 23, 2024 17:47:22 GMT -5
this would make sense if Marcus Mariota didn’t play just as good if not better than when Daniels was in last week…OFF THE BENCH. But I’m told Lock was rusty because he came in mid-game 🤡 keep moving goal posts Give Marriota time. Answer this...why isn't he still stsrting in Tennessee or Atlanta. One half isn't a sample size. coming in with 9:38 left in the first half is “one half” Goalpost moving quickly I see, Mariota isn’t starting in Tennessee or Atlanta because the team (mostly schemes) sucked when he was there. Exact reason he wouldn’t be an upgrade of Jones here |
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 23, 2024 17:53:15 GMT -5
Vinnie, are you a masochist? We’ve had this discussion a dozen times. You know where I stand. For the most part these conversations go amicably well, and other times it ends in each other denigrating the other. lol… So I’m not sure why you want to rehash it unless you love getting into a fight, which you know I’m always down for  btw - no mention of GB? That was somehow a “meaningful” win? OH SNAP, DANKE THREW A JAB WHILE WALKING AWAY  I literally lol’d. Fine, just let me know when and who you think we should get as a QB. I’ve already said, as of now, I’m ok with a bridge QB this year because I’m not a fan of the QB’s in this draft class but there’s still a few I want to watch more, including Cam Ward. Not that I’m a scout, or that scouts even know what the **** they’re doing, but it’s just what fans do. I personally think Schoen and Dabs will “force” a QB pick. We’ll leave this alone until the off season when we have a better idea of the college QB’s, FA’s and our draft pick. P.S I’m not down for a fight, maybe during the off season, we have too much other shit to bitch about 🤣It would be odd for them to force a QB pick in this draft after not doing that in last year’s draft, which was a better QB draft (looks like it now anyway) |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Oct 23, 2024 18:02:40 GMT -5
We can only control our positioning in relation to New Orleans and Carolina since the Giants play both teams. I see no team in front of us currently that can win another game outside of the Jets but who knows they are the Jets.  Adams and Reddick is not going to be enough to save them or get themselves many more wins if any at all. Giants may still actually pick out of the top 5 even if they lose out. A lot of miserably bad teams in this league this season. Your so right. As complete crap as we are probably Cleveland, New England, and Carolina are probably worse. If there was a QB in the draft to go after we will probably miss out again. |
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Post by vinnie on Oct 23, 2024 18:30:31 GMT -5
I literally lol’d. Fine, just let me know when and who you think we should get as a QB. I’ve already said, as of now, I’m ok with a bridge QB this year because I’m not a fan of the QB’s in this draft class but there’s still a few I want to watch more, including Cam Ward. Not that I’m a scout, or that scouts even know what the **** they’re doing, but it’s just what fans do. I personally think Schoen and Dabs will “force” a QB pick. We’ll leave this alone until the off season when we have a better idea of the college QB’s, FA’s and our draft pick. P.S I’m not down for a fight, maybe during the off season, we have too much other shit to bitch about 🤣It would be odd for them to force a QB pick in this draft after not doing that in last year’s draft, which was a better QB draft (looks like it now anyway) I agree but it wouldn’t surprise me at all. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 23, 2024 18:47:36 GMT -5
I literally lol’d. Fine, just let me know when and who you think we should get as a QB. I’ve already said, as of now, I’m ok with a bridge QB this year because I’m not a fan of the QB’s in this draft class but there’s still a few I want to watch more, including Cam Ward. Not that I’m a scout, or that scouts even know what the **** they’re doing, but it’s just what fans do. I personally think Schoen and Dabs will “force” a QB pick. We’ll leave this alone until the off season when we have a better idea of the college QB’s, FA’s and our draft pick. P.S I’m not down for a fight, maybe during the off season, we have too much other shit to bitch about 🤣It would be odd for them to force a QB pick in this draft after not doing that in last year’s draft, which was a better QB draft (looks like it now anyway) No it wouldn't. The top 3 teams in the draft all parted ways with their staring QBs before the draft. There was no way to move up |
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Post by Bigjeep on Oct 23, 2024 18:59:47 GMT -5
Sit Jones and start  ! At least they wouldn't be BORING! And we get a top pick! |
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Post by giantbob71 on Oct 23, 2024 19:11:28 GMT -5
Give Marriota time. Answer this...why isn't he still stsrting in Tennessee or Atlanta. One half isn't a sample size. coming in with 9:38 left in the first half is “one half” Goalpost moving quickly I see, Mariota isn’t starting in Tennessee or Atlanta because the team (mostly schemes) sucked when he was there. Exact reason he wouldn’t be an upgrade of Jones here Derrick Henry sucks...got it. Weird how they got better with Tannehill, who also sucks and nobody signed. If you think Marriotta is an NFL starter, it explains your love for DJ. |
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Post by imgrate on Oct 23, 2024 19:31:06 GMT -5
It would be odd for them to force a QB pick in this draft after not doing that in last year’s draft, which was a better QB draft (looks like it now anyway) No it wouldn't. The top 3 teams in the draft all parted ways with their staring QBs before the draft. There was no way to move up Even mccarthy and penix look like better prospects than any of this year’s guys |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 23, 2024 19:42:27 GMT -5
No it wouldn't. The top 3 teams in the draft all parted ways with their staring QBs before the draft. There was no way to move up Even mccarthy and penix look like better prospects than any of this year’s guys i figured the Giants were going McCarthy. Penix, the injuries scared me. But look what Atlanta did. The went Penix and likely figured he’s worth the risk rather than wait with an aging QB. |
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Post by imgrate on Oct 23, 2024 19:58:12 GMT -5
Even mccarthy and penix look like better prospects than any of this year’s guys i figured the Giants were going McCarthy. Penix, the injuries scared me. But look what Atlanta did. The went Penix and likely figured he’s worth the risk rather than wait with an aging QB. Will be interesting to see if either those guys become good players |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 23, 2024 20:07:55 GMT -5
i figured the Giants were going McCarthy. Penix, the injuries scared me. But look what Atlanta did. The went Penix and likely figured he’s worth the risk rather than wait with an aging QB. Will be interesting to see if either those guys become good players So true. both Minny and Atlanta did it correctly imo. Red shirt a Qb. Minny had no idea that would have happened to McCarthy yet they went out and got a backup who has started. What did the Giants do? We know and it is pathetic. |
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Post by idkaname on Oct 23, 2024 20:29:39 GMT -5
coming in with 9:38 left in the first half is “one half” Goalpost moving quickly I see, Mariota isn’t starting in Tennessee or Atlanta because the team (mostly schemes) sucked when he was there. Exact reason he wouldn’t be an upgrade of Jones here Derrick Henry sucks...got it. Weird how they got better with Tannehill, who also sucks and nobody signed. If you think Marriotta is an NFL starter, it explains your love for DJ. I literally saw it was scheme. News flash every nfl qb can throw the ball |
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 23, 2024 20:37:27 GMT -5
It would be odd for them to force a QB pick in this draft after not doing that in last year’s draft, which was a better QB draft (looks like it now anyway) No it wouldn't. The top 3 teams in the draft all parted ways with their staring QBs before the draft. There was no way to move up You missed the point |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 23, 2024 20:54:19 GMT -5
No it wouldn't. The top 3 teams in the draft all parted ways with their staring QBs before the draft. There was no way to move up You missed the point lol, yeah ok. They couldn’t move up last year but it would be odd to move up this year. Really? |
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Post by giantbob71 on Oct 24, 2024 4:28:31 GMT -5
Derrick Henry sucks...got it. Weird how they got better with Tannehill, who also sucks and nobody signed. If you think Marriotta is an NFL starter, it explains your love for DJ. I literally saw it was scheme. News flash every nfl qb can throw the ball Lol! I can throw a football, too! |
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Adams and Reddick is not going to be enough to save them or get themselves many more wins if any at all.
! At least they wouldn't be BORING! And we get a top pick!