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Post by Sarcasman on Sept 29, 2019 1:50:41 GMT -5
Congrats to Pete, new record for rookie HRs at 53. And to think there was serious talk about him not being brought up to start the season. Great kid too. When Alonso was a student at the University of Florida, he was a history major; he has regularly expressed appreciation for the predecessors he surpassed this season. After Alonso tied with Judge, who established the record in 2017, the Yankees slugger returned the praise and noted that he expected Alonso to beat his mark by the end of the weekend. “There’s no better individual to represent not only the Mets but the city of New York,” Judge said. “He’s going to do a lot of special things over his long career, so I’m excited for him. It’s just the beginning for him and it’s the first of many records he’s going to break.” www.nytimes.com/2019/09/28/sports/pete-alonso-mets-home-run-record-judge.htmlWhat a quote. Jesus, does it get any classier than that?
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 29, 2019 7:33:24 GMT -5
Congrats to Pete, new record for rookie HRs at 53. And to think there was serious talk about him not being brought up to start the season. Great kid too. When Alonso was a student at the University of Florida, he was a history major; he has regularly expressed appreciation for the predecessors he surpassed this season. After Alonso tied with Judge, who established the record in 2017, the Yankees slugger returned the praise and noted that he expected Alonso to beat his mark by the end of the weekend. “There’s no better individual to represent not only the Mets but the city of New York,” Judge said. “He’s going to do a lot of special things over his long career, so I’m excited for him. It’s just the beginning for him and it’s the first of many records he’s going to break.” www.nytimes.com/2019/09/28/sports/pete-alonso-mets-home-run-record-judge.htmlWhat a quote. Jesus, does it get any classier than that?Nope. Judge and Alonso are similar in many ways. Humble, gracious, genuine and powerful. Great icons for the 2 NY teams going forward. That said, it was much easier for Alonso this year due to the super balls they were using in MLB. I mean, 4 teams obliterated the team season HR record this year. The MLB HR record for a season was broken in August. He should have an asterisk.... Just messin.... Alonso is legit. Im actually happy he plays for the Mets. Nothing to not like about the dude except that he was a Gator.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 29, 2019 17:11:42 GMT -5
When Alonso was a student at the University of Florida, he was a history major; he has regularly expressed appreciation for the predecessors he surpassed this season. After Alonso tied with Judge, who established the record in 2017, the Yankees slugger returned the praise and noted that he expected Alonso to beat his mark by the end of the weekend. “There’s no better individual to represent not only the Mets but the city of New York,” Judge said. “He’s going to do a lot of special things over his long career, so I’m excited for him. It’s just the beginning for him and it’s the first of many records he’s going to break.” www.nytimes.com/2019/09/28/sports/pete-alonso-mets-home-run-record-judge.htmlWhat a quote. Jesus, does it get any classier than that?Nope. Judge and Alonso are similar in many ways. Humble, gracious, genuine and powerful. Great icons for the 2 NY teams going forward. That said, it was much easier for Alonso this year due to the super balls they were using in MLB. I mean, 4 teams obliterated the team season HR record this year. The MLB HR record for a season was broken in August. He should have an asterisk.... Just messin.... Alonso is legit. Im actually happy he plays for the Mets. Nothing to not like about the dude except that he was a Gator. It was a joke I know, but if Pete played 1/2 his games in that band box on the other side of town he probably would have hit 70
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Post by trentongiantsfan83 on Sept 29, 2019 18:52:14 GMT -5
Pete Alonso, Daniel Jones and Saquan The God, Jack Hughes and Nikita Okhotyuk, are all giving me hope in my sports love. It's been a rough few years for me and sports fandom. But the future is bright.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 29, 2019 19:08:12 GMT -5
Nope. Judge and Alonso are similar in many ways. Humble, gracious, genuine and powerful. Great icons for the 2 NY teams going forward. That said, it was much easier for Alonso this year due to the super balls they were using in MLB. I mean, 4 teams obliterated the team season HR record this year. The MLB HR record for a season was broken in August. He should have an asterisk.... Just messin.... Alonso is legit. Im actually happy he plays for the Mets. Nothing to not like about the dude except that he was a Gator. It was a joke I know, but if Pete played 1/2 his games in that band box on the other side of town he probably would have hit 70 Haha. Nice. Actually a common misconception. Yes Yankee Stadium has a short right porch. Yet in 2019 it ranked 25th in HRs given up despite the Yankees hitting over 300 HRs on the year. Compare that to Citi Field which ranked 16th in HRs given up. So in 2019, Citi field was actually a HR park much more than Yankee Stadium. Congrats to the Polar Bear though. Great guy.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 3, 2019 12:05:19 GMT -5
How do you guys feel about moving on to a new manager?
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Post by TEM on Oct 3, 2019 12:23:55 GMT -5
I would like to see Girardi get the Job.
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Post by DandyDon on Oct 3, 2019 12:31:51 GMT -5
How do you guys feel about moving on to a new manager? Good. So many of his in-game decisions were bizarre. Personally, I like him and the players seemed to respond to him, but he is not a good manager, IMO.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Oct 3, 2019 12:39:15 GMT -5
Maybe there is hope for the FO. Maddon please.
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 3, 2019 12:43:29 GMT -5
How do you guys feel about moving on to a new manager? Fine. I don't think the manager in baseball matter that much anymore. I think there may be a couple of throwbacks that actually manage and can make a difference to a team but by and large I don;t think it matter that much. Managers are now really glorified data inputters.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 3, 2019 13:13:22 GMT -5
How about Beltran?
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Post by DandyDon on Oct 3, 2019 13:24:23 GMT -5
I doubt (hope) they dont go with someone who has never managed a team (again). Also, although I love CB, he does not have the best relationship with the Wilpons. Highly doubt it. I'd love to see Girardi, but dont think the Cheapons will pay him. I fully expect an underwhelming choice.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Oct 3, 2019 14:05:49 GMT -5
Congrats to Pete, new record for rookie HRs at 53. And to think there was serious talk about him not being brought up to start the season. Great kid too. When Alonso was a student at the University of Florida, he was a history major; he has regularly expressed appreciation for the predecessors he surpassed this season. After Alonso tied with Judge, who established the record in 2017, the Yankees slugger returned the praise and noted that he expected Alonso to beat his mark by the end of the weekend. “There’s no better individual to represent not only the Mets but the city of New York,” Judge said. “He’s going to do a lot of special things over his long career, so I’m excited for him. It’s just the beginning for him and it’s the first of many records he’s going to break.” www.nytimes.com/2019/09/28/sports/pete-alonso-mets-home-run-record-judge.htmlWhat a quote. Jesus, does it get any classier than that? I’m a Mets fan but unfortunately we are a classless organization also they are cheap maybe when it’s time to pay Alonso they will find an excuse to not pay him.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Oct 3, 2019 15:06:45 GMT -5
Maybe there is hope for the FO. Maddon please.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 4, 2019 6:52:09 GMT -5
David Cone would seem to be a good hire for you guys.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Oct 4, 2019 7:05:28 GMT -5
This would be an awful deal for the Mets. Anyone taking Cano should get a lot along with it. He's a dump and the Mets are acting like they're getting something valuable. Of course his agent connection is probably a coincidence, lol Brodie “Bandwagonen” is an extension of the Wilpon’s always selling dreams another con man. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Wilson’s start charging people to use the restrooms in the stadium.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 5, 2019 11:14:16 GMT -5
Whomever they hire, he better be cool with analytics. That seems to be the current rave in the hiring of managers.
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Post by Parademon1 on Oct 5, 2019 11:39:24 GMT -5
A clone could be made of the greatest managers in baseball history & even they could not make the Mets a perennial winner. Mutts/Jests fans are doomed for life. My hat's off to those of you who continue being their fans yr after disastrous yr. Jests season may be over by Columbus day. Might be between the Fish & Jests for the #1 pick in 20' & I can see the Jests mucking that pick up already.
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 5, 2019 14:40:24 GMT -5
Whomever they hire, he better be cool with analytics. That seems to be the current rave in the hiring of managers. The Mets analytics department is one of the smallest in the leagues I’ve read. If they want to get up to par with the rest of the league they have to invest heavily in analytics. I hate it, but it’s what the league is about now. The Yankees spend a ton of money in that department, big reason they have been a step ahead of many teams. I think the Mets are going to hire a 1st year manager. Seeing Boone with us and Rocco Baldelli with the Twins shows you can win in this league with inexperienced managers. Remember, these young managers can relate to the younger players of today’s game. Something Joe Girardi could not do.
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Post by DandyDon on Oct 5, 2019 23:21:18 GMT -5
Whomever they hire, he better be cool with analytics. That seems to be the current rave in the hiring of managers. The Mets analytics department is one of the smallest in the leagues I’ve read. If they want to get up to par with the rest of the league they have to invest heavily in analytics. I hate it, but it’s what the league is about now. The Yankees spend a ton of money in that department, big reason they have been a step ahead of many teams. I think the Mets are going to hire a 1st year manager. Seeing Boone with us and Rocco Baldelli with the Twins shows you can win in this league with inexperienced managers. Remember, these young managers can relate to the younger players of today’s game. Something Joe Girardi could not do. Give me a break... The Yankees win consistently by spending a lot of money on payroll, and have been close to the top in every year in recent history. They might also spend money on analytics, but they win consistently by spending the most. They are the #2 team in payroll this year, and are embarrassing the Indians, who are 16th. The Rays probably get the best performance per buck in MLB, but they dont look good so far against the Astros, who are 8th in payroll. The Rays are dead last. I'm not suggesting that payroll always equals performance, but if we are going with analytics vs payroll in MLB, I'll take payroll every time. Money-ball doesn't have too many World Series wins.
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Post by Fletch842 on Oct 6, 2019 5:13:16 GMT -5
Whomever they hire, he better be cool with analytics. That seems to be the current rave in the hiring of managers. The Mets analytics department is one of the smallest in the leagues I’ve read. If they want to get up to par with the rest of the league they have to invest heavily in analytics. I hate it, but it’s what the league is about now. The Yankees spend a ton of money in that department, big reason they have been a step ahead of many teams. I think the Mets are going to hire a 1st year manager. Seeing Boone with us and Rocco Baldelli with the Twins shows you can win in this league with inexperienced managers. Remember, these young managers can relate to the younger players of today’s game. Something Joe Girardi could not do. They were discussing potential candidates for the Mets on the Michael Kay show the other day. The somewhat darkhorse guys they were mentioning were Carlos Beltran, David Cone, and David Wright.
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 6, 2019 11:54:05 GMT -5
The Mets analytics department is one of the smallest in the leagues I’ve read. If they want to get up to par with the rest of the league they have to invest heavily in analytics. I hate it, but it’s what the league is about now. The Yankees spend a ton of money in that department, big reason they have been a step ahead of many teams. I think the Mets are going to hire a 1st year manager. Seeing Boone with us and Rocco Baldelli with the Twins shows you can win in this league with inexperienced managers. Remember, these young managers can relate to the younger players of today’s game. Something Joe Girardi could not do. Give me a break... The Yankees win consistently by spending a lot of money on payroll, and have been close to the top in every year in recent history. They might also spend money on analytics, but they win consistently by spending the most. They are the #2 team in payroll this year, and are embarrassing the Indians, who are 16th. The Rays probably get the best performance per buck in MLB, but they dont look good so far against the Astros, who are 8th in payroll. The Rays are dead last. I'm not suggesting that payroll always equals performance, but if we are going with analytics vs payroll in MLB, I'll take payroll every time. Money-ball doesn't have too many World Series wins. The top 10 payrolls in the league 5 of those teams missed the playoffs, including your Mets. So spare me that lame payroll excuse. Spending money doesn’t always equate to wins. This season the Yankees have had the most players on the injured list in MLB history. And yet they plugged guys in off the street and won over 100 games. Good player evaluations, knowing what player would fit the system, that’s what helps teams win. Phillies spent a ton of money this last offseason, and they missed the playoffs. As for the Rays, their system is quite easy. They draft very well, and once the players have to get paid they trade them for more top prospects. It’s a cycle they have been doing since Stuart Sternberg bought majority of share of the franchise. It’s great what they’re doing, but they’ll never win it all. They’re playing in a division with the Red Sox and Yankees. And have to deal with the Astros this postseason which looks like they’re going to get swept.
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 6, 2019 11:57:31 GMT -5
The Mets analytics department is one of the smallest in the leagues I’ve read. If they want to get up to par with the rest of the league they have to invest heavily in analytics. I hate it, but it’s what the league is about now. The Yankees spend a ton of money in that department, big reason they have been a step ahead of many teams. I think the Mets are going to hire a 1st year manager. Seeing Boone with us and Rocco Baldelli with the Twins shows you can win in this league with inexperienced managers. Remember, these young managers can relate to the younger players of today’s game. Something Joe Girardi could not do. They were discussing potential candidates for the Mets on the Michael Kay show the other day. The somewhat darkhorse guys they were mentioning were Carlos Beltran, David Cone, and David Wright. I heard that. I normally don’t listen to those idiots but that day something must of been wrong with me. The David Wright idea way beyond dumb.. Yeah hire Wright and instead of giving him a salary they’re already paying him $20 million dollars. If the Mets make that move it would be a typical Mets move. But this is also a franchise that hired a sports agent to run their organization. Why don’t they hire Mookie Wilson or Howard Johnson too.
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Post by DandyDon on Oct 6, 2019 23:06:39 GMT -5
Give me a break... The Yankees win consistently by spending a lot of money on payroll, and have been close to the top in every year in recent history. They might also spend money on analytics, but they win consistently by spending the most. They are the #2 team in payroll this year, and are embarrassing the Indians, who are 16th. The Rays probably get the best performance per buck in MLB, but they dont look good so far against the Astros, who are 8th in payroll. The Rays are dead last. I'm not suggesting that payroll always equals performance, but if we are going with analytics vs payroll in MLB, I'll take payroll every time. Money-ball doesn't have too many World Series wins. The top 10 payrolls in the league 5 of those teams missed the playoffs, including your Mets. So spare me that lame payroll excuse. Spending money doesn’t always equate to wins. This season the Yankees have had the most players on the injured list in MLB history. And yet they plugged guys in off the street and won over 100 games. Good player evaluations, knowing what player would fit the system, that’s what helps teams win. Phillies spent a ton of money this last offseason, and they missed the playoffs. As for the Rays, their system is quite easy. They draft very well, and once the players have to get paid they trade them for more top prospects. It’s a cycle they have been doing since Stuart Sternberg bought majority of share of the franchise. It’s great what they’re doing, but they’ll never win it all. They’re playing in a division with the Red Sox and Yankees. And have to deal with the Astros this postseason which looks like they’re going to get swept. Again, give me a break. The Yankees have succeeded by spending way more money than other teams over multiple years. www.stevetheump.com/Payrolls.htm
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Post by trentongiantsfan83 on Oct 7, 2019 17:34:07 GMT -5
Give me a break... The Yankees win consistently by spending a lot of money on payroll, and have been close to the top in every year in recent history. They might also spend money on analytics, but they win consistently by spending the most. They are the #2 team in payroll this year, and are embarrassing the Indians, who are 16th. The Rays probably get the best performance per buck in MLB, but they dont look good so far against the Astros, who are 8th in payroll. The Rays are dead last. I'm not suggesting that payroll always equals performance, but if we are going with analytics vs payroll in MLB, I'll take payroll every time. Money-ball doesn't have too many World Series wins. The top 10 payrolls in the league 5 of those teams missed the playoffs, including your Mets. So spare me that lame payroll excuse. Spending money doesn’t always equate to wins. This season the Yankees have had the most players on the injured list in MLB history. And yet they plugged guys in off the street and won over 100 games. Good player evaluations, knowing what player would fit the system, that’s what helps teams win. Phillies spent a ton of money this last offseason, and they missed the playoffs. As for the Rays, their system is quite easy. They draft very well, and once the players have to get paid they trade them for more top prospects. It’s a cycle they have been doing since Stuart Sternberg bought majority of share of the franchise. It’s great what they’re doing, but they’ll never win it all. They’re playing in a division with the Red Sox and Yankees. And have to deal with the Astros this postseason which looks like they’re going to get swept. The Rays crushed the Astros today 10-3. They still look like they are still alive in the playoffs.
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 7, 2019 18:05:57 GMT -5
The top 10 payrolls in the league 5 of those teams missed the playoffs, including your Mets. So spare me that lame payroll excuse. Spending money doesn’t always equate to wins. This season the Yankees have had the most players on the injured list in MLB history. And yet they plugged guys in off the street and won over 100 games. Good player evaluations, knowing what player would fit the system, that’s what helps teams win. Phillies spent a ton of money this last offseason, and they missed the playoffs. As for the Rays, their system is quite easy. They draft very well, and once the players have to get paid they trade them for more top prospects. It’s a cycle they have been doing since Stuart Sternberg bought majority of share of the franchise. It’s great what they’re doing, but they’ll never win it all. They’re playing in a division with the Red Sox and Yankees. And have to deal with the Astros this postseason which looks like they’re going to get swept. The Rays crushed the Astros today 10-3. They still look like they are still alive in the playoffs. That’s great. Hope they can give the Astros everything they got.
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Post by Parademon1 on Oct 12, 2019 21:16:51 GMT -5
Clayton aka the "choker" Kershaw is always being revered as this HOF type pitcher & one of the best ever? Then why is he always blowing games in the playoffs? The "best" rise to the occasion ala Reggie, not shrivel up like CK does on an annual basis. This "great" pitcher has just 25 complete games in 12 yrs & just 15 shutouts but is considered one of the best ever?
In this day & age of pampered pitchers that hardly go past 5-6 innings & are on pitch counts, it's a damn joke to compare them to pitchers of the 50s-60s-70s-80s-90s & even early 2000s who actually pitched 7-8-9 innings & were not on a any pitch count.
I compared Kershaws 12 yrs to Tom Seavers 1st 12 yrs in the Majors & here's some of the stats:
CK W-L record: 169-74, keep in mind he has played for a way better LA team than Seaver ever had on the Mets. TS W-L record: 219-113
CK Games started: 344 TS Games started: 387
CK Complete games: 25 TS Complete games: 188
CK Shutouts: 15 TS Shutouts: 47
CK Innings pitched: 2274 TS Innings pitched: 3237
CK ER allowed: 672 TS ER allowed: 905
CH HR allowed: 173 TS HR allowed: 232
CK Walks allowed: 577 TS Walks allowed: 888
CK KOs: 2464 TS KOs: 2756
CK ERA: 2.44 TS ERA: 2.74
In 12 yrs, Seaver pitched 963 innings more than Kershaw has in his 12 yrs which comes out to 269 IP per yr for Seaver. Kershaw has pitched an avg of 189 IP yr.
I'll take a Tom Seaver in his prime over the babied/pampered choker any day of the week & twice on Sunday! That's 80 innings per yr more or almost 9 more games/starts per yr.
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Post by trentongiantsfan83 on Oct 15, 2019 16:50:34 GMT -5
I want Carlos Beltran over Joe Girardi anyday. Please PLEASE make it happen Coupons!!!!!!!!
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Post by trentongiantsfan83 on Oct 15, 2019 16:51:41 GMT -5
The Rays crushed the Astros today 10-3. They still look like they are still alive in the playoffs. That’s great. Hope they can give the Astros everything they got. Well, look at where Houston is now. They're a major threat per usual.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Oct 16, 2019 23:11:30 GMT -5
I want Carlos Beltran over Joe Girardi anyday. Please PLEASE make it happen Coupons!!!!!!!! We need a proven manager not another guy who has never been an MLB Manager before. I wish they would kick the tires on Dusty Baker honestly. Between the 2 you said give me Girardi all day.
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