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Post by SG88 on Dec 1, 2018 12:57:14 GMT -5
He's a throwback and that is a good thing. However, I don't get your point of criticizing today's athletes for their celebrations. They are playing a game out there and games are supposed to be fun. I say let them have their fun. These EZ celebrations are awesome,the choreography.Its especially amusing watching the refs reactions. Waiting for Eli and Beckham to break out their recreation of the Super Bowl comercial My favorite one was the Tyler Lockett celebration recreating Allen Iverson's shot over Ty Lue. It was awesome and hilarious
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Post by Parademon1 on Dec 1, 2018 13:10:20 GMT -5
You look pretty stupid doing an EZ celebrations trailing 34 -14. Sorry, give me Walter Payton/Barry Sanders & SB. Classy & act like they 've been there. Plus how many times have these BS EZ celebrations gotten a 15yd flag on the ensuing kickoff that gifts the other team an extra 15-20 yds to then go & score. If I'm an NFL HC, I fine every player $15,000 for every stupid celebration they do that costs the team a 15yd flag! GW TD with less than 1 min to go, no prob, do this stupid crap in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd , early/mid 4th qts, GTFO with that crap! Do it while trailing by multiple TDs in a blowout & get a flag, $10,000 fine. There used to be a time when the HC was actually the authoritive figure & would discipline players that got outta line with stupidity on the field, but no more. The inmates run the asylum now in the NFL. The teams that lead the NFL in penalties at the end of the yr are usually the cellar dwellars & those 9-10+ flags per game are the main reason they lost. Tells me the HC has no control of that team.
Under Shula in the 70s, Miami was one of the least penalized teams every yr. The players knew better than to do stupid stuff on the field that cost them a 1st dn or TD or more importantly, a win!
72' Dolphins had a total of 68 flags in 14 regular season games for an avg of 4.8 flags pg. They never beat themselves. 17-0 World champs 73' Dolphins had a total of 52 flags in 14 regular season games for an avg of 3.7 flags pg. They never beat themselves. 15-2 World champs
17' Giants had a total of 91 flags in 16 games & lost 895yds due to those flags. That's an avg of 6 flags pg. 3-13 record
18' Giants already have 73 flags for 666yds. That's 6.6 flags ppg 3-8 record enroute to replicating last yr's record
In their 2 SB seasons, 28 regular season games, Miami had a total of 120 flags
In the past 27 regular season games, the Giants have a total of 164 flags totaling 1,561 lost yds.
3 most important indicators in an NFL game that mean the difference between a W or an L are: TOP, TOs & penalties. the team that comes out on top in those 3 categories wins the game 90% of the time.
So all you Giants fans keep celebrating those stupid EZ dances that OBJ does that costs us a 15yd flag on the ensuing KO. You all must love losing games.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 13:13:03 GMT -5
When Eli retires ill be happy to be referred as a Barkley Cultists.
Once we have an oline, This guy is going to win games by himself.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 1, 2018 13:21:37 GMT -5
He is a very special talent and more importantly a very special young man.
I would love to meet him one day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 16:32:34 GMT -5
He is a very special talent and more importantly a very special young man. I would love to meet him one day.
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Post by Morehead State on Dec 1, 2018 16:48:46 GMT -5
He's a throwback and that is a good thing. However, I don't get your point of criticizing today's athletes for their celebrations. They are playing a game out there and games are supposed to be fun. I say let them have their fun. I can't stand the self indulgent, "notice me" celebrations.
But it's a brave new, selfish world.
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Post by nyer on Dec 1, 2018 16:57:37 GMT -5
He's a throwback and that is a good thing. However, I don't get your point of criticizing today's athletes for their celebrations. They are playing a game out there and games are supposed to be fun. I say let them have their fun. So pissing in the EZ is ok? I’m mean I agree with you essentially but there is a limit and if it wasn’t against the eagals then I wouldn’t be smiling as I’m typing this. Odell crossed a line in front of all those kids on TV. I love the creativity tho and no better place to do it than Philly.
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Post by nyer on Dec 1, 2018 17:20:39 GMT -5
Barkley reminds me of Mark Bavaro. There is no higher compliment! In some Giant households, that’s a four letter word. Well, his first name is. I see what u meant tho. Class act! Let’s see if he holds it all together through the next three or four yrs (rebuild, QB transition) and the drama that’s been the headlines instead of wins the last three or four. No knock on Barkley in any way but this franchise can try anyone’s nerves (rudderless ship). Saquon seems sincere but who knows how he will react to wasting his best yrs on a meandering organization while they bumble their way to respectability?
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Post by SG88 on Dec 1, 2018 17:41:21 GMT -5
He's a throwback and that is a good thing. However, I don't get your point of criticizing today's athletes for their celebrations. They are playing a game out there and games are supposed to be fun. I say let them have their fun. So pissing in the EZ is ok? I’m mean I agree with you essentially but there is a limit and if it wasn’t against the eagals then I wouldn’t be smiling as I’m typing this. Odell crossed a line in front of all those kids on TV. I love the creativity tho and no better place to do it than Philly. Did I say that? I can't seem to find it in my post. Anyways, my point is that they are playing a game and should have fun out there when they can. I agree with you about that particular one, but most of the others are fine with me.
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Post by SG88 on Dec 1, 2018 17:47:40 GMT -5
He's a throwback and that is a good thing. However, I don't get your point of criticizing today's athletes for their celebrations. They are playing a game out there and games are supposed to be fun. I say let them have their fun. I can't stand the self indulgent, "notice me" celebrations.
But it's a brave new, selfish world.
Lol, you are just old. The NFL is marketing towards the target market, which is 18-21 year olds. They already have your money and mines. They're just trying to get that future money. The inability to market its superstars is why baseball fell behind both basketball and football. Baseball was king when I was a child and is still my favorite sport. I hope that it becomes king again before I die.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 1, 2018 17:50:58 GMT -5
…. He's a throwback and that is a good thing. However, I don't get your point of criticizing today's athletes for their celebrations. They are playing a game out there and games are supposed to be fun. I say let them have their fun. I can't stand the self indulgent, "notice me" celebrations.
But it's a brave new, selfish world.
"They" aren't obligated to be anything that "group think" decides they should be. They should all be allowed to be themselves and we can migrate to those players who endear themselves to us according to our preferences not anyone else's That would make the world go around better wouldn't it? ... If "the mob" didn't try to decide how everyone should act and each fan could choose his own favorite players without brow beatings from others. Utopia! MH, I have noticed that you've been a little sensitive lately so let me point out that I was just commenting on the state of things and was not referencing you when I say: "they", "group think", "mob" or "brow beating". Maybe I had you in mind with "Utopia."
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Post by SG88 on Dec 1, 2018 17:58:38 GMT -5
You look pretty stupid doing an EZ celebrations trailing 34 -14. Sorry, give me Walter Payton/Barry Sanders & SB. Classy & act like they 've been there. Plus how many times have these BS EZ celebrations gotten a 15yd flag on the ensuing kickoff that gifts the other team an extra 15-20 yds to then go & score. If I'm an NFL HC, I fine every player $15,000 for every stupid celebration they do that costs the team a 15yd flag! GW TD with less than 1 min to go, no prob, do this stupid crap in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd , early/mid 4th qts, GTFO with that crap! Do it while trailing by multiple TDs in a blowout & get a flag, $10,000 fine. There used to be a time when the HC was actually the authoritive figure & would discipline players that got outta line with stupidity on the field, but no more. The inmates run the asylum now in the NFL. The teams that lead the NFL in penalties at the end of the yr are usually the cellar dwellars & those 9-10+ flags per game are the main reason they lost. Tells me the HC has no control of that team. Under Shula in the 70s, Miami was one of the least penalized teams every yr. The players knew better than to do stupid stuff on the field that cost them a 1st dn or TD or more importantly, a win! 72' Dolphins had a total of 68 flags in 14 regular season games for an avg of 4.8 flags pg. They never beat themselves. 17-0 World champs 73' Dolphins had a total of 52 flags in 14 regular season games for an avg of 3.7 flags pg. They never beat themselves. 15-2 World champs 17' Giants had a total of 91 flags in 16 games & lost 895yds due to those flags. That's an avg of 6 flags pg. 3-13 record 18' Giants already have 73 flags for 666yds. That's 6.6 flags ppg 3-8 record enroute to replicating last yr's record In their 2 SB seasons, 28 regular season games, Miami had a total of 120 flags In the past 27 regular season games, the Giants have a total of 164 flags totaling 1,561 lost yds. 3 most important indicators in an NFL game that mean the difference between a W or an L are: TOP, TOs & penalties. the team that comes out on top in those 3 categories wins the game 90% of the time. So all you Giants fans keep celebrating those stupid EZ dances that OBJ does that costs us a 15yd flag on the ensuing KO. You all must love losing games. I think that I will keep just not minding them. It is OK to be on the other side of the fence. I'm not even mad at ya and you're still one of my favorite posters on here.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 20:07:20 GMT -5
i read a cool stat , Barkley hasnt fumbled in 32 games
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Post by ocgiant on Dec 2, 2018 0:03:11 GMT -5
Not the direction I wanted to go in... but he is an absolute stud... one of the shining lights in a dim season... as for celebrations by other players... I say let their personality as a pro dictate what they do... I have no problem with it... imagine no EZ celebration... BORING... then what would we gripe about...
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 2, 2018 1:03:21 GMT -5
i read a cool stat , Barkley hasnt fumbled in 32 games I guess we all know who to blame if he coughs on up tomorrow
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Post by Sarcasman on Dec 2, 2018 1:28:50 GMT -5
i read a cool stat , Barkley hasnt fumbled in 32 games I guess we all know who to blame if he coughs on up tomorrow The Mush.
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Post by Parsley on Dec 3, 2018 1:25:48 GMT -5
Stud.
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 3, 2018 6:53:19 GMT -5
I think pound for pound he’s the best back in the league. He’s rushed for 954 yards as of today, behind a offensive line that is in the discussion as the worst in the league. Rarely does the initial contact bring him down, he has the power to run inside the tackles, and the speed to break it to the outside. He’s a threat out of the back field in the passing game, a linebacker can not defend him 1 on 1.
The Giants should do everything possible to build around the kid, get him an offensive line..
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Post by TEM on Dec 3, 2018 7:03:38 GMT -5
How can you not love this kid?...generational talent and humble to boot... There is nothing that is dislikable about him.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 3, 2018 7:08:57 GMT -5
i read a cool stat , Barkley hasnt fumbled in 32 games Ha, way to jinx it. I bet he fumbles next game. Also, I think we all witnessed Kareem Hunt fumble it away this past week.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 3, 2018 7:09:52 GMT -5
On a serious note, what was that injury about? I didnt hear anything about it... Looked bad.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 9:40:00 GMT -5
I heard it was shoulder.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 9:46:30 GMT -5
someone in the game thread said it was an equipment issue. but it didnt seem like that was he was doubed over. maybe just a stinger and he ran in for quick xrays and it wasnt serious so he came back out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 10:00:34 GMT -5
someone in the game thread said it was an equipment issue. but it didnt seem like that was he was doubed over. maybe just a stinger and he ran in for quick xrays and it wasnt serious so he came back out. Now why would you use stinger and barkley in the same sentence?
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 3, 2018 10:01:57 GMT -5
someone in the game thread said it was an equipment issue. but it didnt seem like that was he was doubed over. maybe just a stinger and he ran in for quick xrays and it wasnt serious so he came back out. Let's hope so... This is the main issue of taking a RB that early in the draft IMO. I know other positional players get hurt too, but RBs have a short shelf live. They take the most hits and punishment on most plays. It all adds up. I hope he is ok.
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Post by straightrazorman on Dec 3, 2018 10:27:08 GMT -5
someone in the game thread said it was an equipment issue. but it didnt seem like that was he was doubed over. maybe just a stinger and he ran in for quick xrays and it wasnt serious so he came back out. Let's hope so... This is the main issue of taking a RB that early in the draft IMO. I know other positional players get hurt too, but RBs have a short shelf live. They take the most hits and punishment on most plays. It all adds up. I hope he is ok. He came out of the "blue tent" and re-entered the game, so I don't think it was anything serious. Don't know why the announcers didn't report anything about it. Maybe they were too busy still gushing about Akeem Hicks' touchdown!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 15:43:04 GMT -5
I guess we all know who to blame if he coughs on up tomorrow The Mush. lol, im not a jinx, i have normally good luck but i thought it was a cool stat, probably not the best time to post it, before facing the bears D .
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Post by bizcliz on Dec 3, 2018 15:46:32 GMT -5
I am just impressed that the Giants ran for 140, averaging 4.9 ypc with a long of 25 (no massive runs to skew) against a defense that was only allowing 80YPG ad 3.7YPC.
That's a mean front 7 that got worked.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 3, 2018 16:01:36 GMT -5
lol, im not a jinx, i have normally good luck but i thought it was a cool stat, probably not the best time to post it, before facing the bears D . All good For now *evil laugh*
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 3, 2018 16:05:33 GMT -5
I am just impressed that the Giants ran for 140, averaging 4.9 ypc with a long of 25 (no massive runs to skew) against a defense that was only allowing 80YPG ad 3.7YPC. That's a mean front 7 that got worked. That right there is above and beyond the most important stat and thing to take away from this game,even if we lost. If that's not the biggest indicator the line has improved to almost ,dare I say, good? And the scary thing is that it's not a finished product,though if the line keeps playing like this or continues to improve through the end of the year,it might actually make sense to not fix what's not broken and keep this line intact long term and draft some linemen mid round for depth and future development
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