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Post by allnygin on Dec 30, 2018 16:28:02 GMT -5
Story of the season. D can't get a stop on the last drive of the season. offense can't move the ball with a minute + on the clock 2 times outs for 15 yards for a fg. Crappy way to end out the season Defense couldn't stop anything...3rd and long, 4th down...all season long. We need pash rushers, more than one.
Wish we'd ditched OV instead of JPP.
Seriously if you look at what's slowed the Giants. Injuries...including from a crash and fireworks. Bad picks and FA signings along both lines. Reese thinking he could revisit the JPP (and Kiwi to a lesser extent) magic
There's some young talent on this team. Time for the older vets to go, including JPP, OV and Eli. Let the youth movement begin.
Agreed. Should shape out to be an Interesting off season lots of big decisions to be made.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 30, 2018 16:28:12 GMT -5
Defense = awful QB = awful at the most important times
Defense needs a complete overhaul and the QB can not win games anymore, even with a plethora of magical weapons..
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Post by TGTW92 on Dec 30, 2018 16:29:52 GMT -5
Our Defense Blows Can't stop 4th and 15 And Eli cant go 15 yards with 2 timeouts and 1:15 on the clock vs backups. dude stop. The defense hasn't been able to get off the field when it matters most. All season long. I know you hate Eli but this falls on the defense.
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Post by Bigjeep on Dec 30, 2018 16:30:16 GMT -5
Hope the Vikings win and knock the Eagles out! No chance that Washington wins! popcorn
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Post by straightrazorman on Dec 30, 2018 16:31:30 GMT -5
Defense = awful QB = awful at the most important times Defense needs a complete overhaul and the QB can not win games anymore, even with a plethora of magical weapons.. 35 points should have been enough to win any game. I get it that you're part of the EDS crew, but this loss was on the defense as was last week's loss.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 16:37:17 GMT -5
See, we can equally blame the offense and defense for the loss. Eli had 2 TOs and 1:15 left and the ball at midfield down 1 point. 3 bad throws. Like last week, Eli proves once again he does not have it to be a winner. dude the first one was a throw away. The 4th one was a perfect throw. The other 2 could have been better but everyone was covered.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 30, 2018 16:38:19 GMT -5
And Eli cant go 15 yards with 2 timeouts and 1:15 on the clock vs backups. dude stop. The defense hasn't been able to get off the field when it matters most. All season long. I know you hate Eli but this falls on the defense. Do you even read? The defense was pathetic. But Eli cant win games anymore. It's been years and som just keep on making excuses. This win was there to be had in a silver platter despite the defense playing awful.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 30, 2018 16:41:54 GMT -5
I love the Eli crowd. I really do. By me saying Eli could have won this game means I'm blaming him for the loss and not saying the defense sucks... lol Defense sucks. Eli didnt cost us this game.
Bottom line is, the last 2 games Eli played good enough to win. With a better defense maybe we do win both. HOWEVER Eli had a chance in both games to win both on a final drive, and failed.
That's who he is now. It's been years since he was the reason we were winning consistantly.
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Post by Miked1958 on Dec 30, 2018 16:43:25 GMT -5
YES! 5 pick in the draft!!!!!!! well they started out #8 on day and moved up two spots with others ahead of them winning. Came close to #5 but TB ended up losing 34-32 to the falcons.. Still two more 4-11 teams playing with chance to tie Giants with wins. SF & Oakland although I don't know what the tie breakers are. So potentially could move up to #4 Yes this is better then a meaningless win
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Post by repeatchamps on Dec 30, 2018 16:46:20 GMT -5
Our Defense Blows Can't stop 4th and 15 And Eli cant go 15 yards with 2 timeouts and 1:15 on the clock vs backups. Not one defensive backup was voluntarily in the game for that last drive. Garrett had his entire starting defense on the field.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 16:59:56 GMT -5
And Eli cant go 15 yards with 2 timeouts and 1:15 on the clock vs backups. Not one defensive backup was voluntarily in the game for that last drive. Garrett had his entire starting defense on the field. can't believe he's complaining about Eli when we scored 35 points and lost.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 30, 2018 17:01:21 GMT -5
And Eli cant go 15 yards with 2 timeouts and 1:15 on the clock vs backups. Not one defensive backup was voluntarily in the game for that last drive. Garrett had his entire starting defense on the field. Not sure about that... Id have to check. I thought they pulled a starting safety and LB and DLinemen... but does that make it better? Still. STs got it to mid field. 2 timeouts. 1:15 to go.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 30, 2018 17:03:17 GMT -5
Not one defensive backup was voluntarily in the game for that last drive. Garrett had his entire starting defense on the field. can't believe he's complaining about Eli when we scored 35 points and lost. Again, calm down, Eli wasnt the reason we lost. Our awful defense was. BUT why cant we discuss how 2 games in a row we had a good chance to win it in the final drive (oh the days of 2011)? Is that not allowed?
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Post by repeatchamps on Dec 30, 2018 17:04:03 GMT -5
Not one defensive backup was voluntarily in the game for that last drive. Garrett had his entire starting defense on the field. Not sure about that... Id have to check. I thought they pulled a starting safety and LB and DLinemen... but does that make it better? Still. STs got it to mid field. 2 timeouts. 1:15 to go. Vander Esch came back in after he got hurt. I did not like the play calling on that last drive. How do you not try and run it a bit with Barkley and two timeouts. Guy is the best player on the field, get him the ball.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 30, 2018 17:06:10 GMT -5
Not sure about that... Id have to check. I thought they pulled a starting safety and LB and DLinemen... but does that make it better? Still. STs got it to mid field. 2 timeouts. 1:15 to go. Vander Esch came back in after he got hurt. I did not like the play calling on that last drive. How do you not try and run it a bit with Barkley and two timeouts. Guy is the best player on the field, get him the ball. I agree. BArk should have gotten the ball.
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Dec 30, 2018 17:07:48 GMT -5
YES! 5 pick in the draft!!!!!!! well they started out #8 on day and moved up two spots with others ahead of them winning. Came close to #5 but TB ended up losing 34-32 to the falcons.. Still two more 4-11 teams playing with chance to tie Giants with wins. SF & Oakland although I don't know what the tie breakers are. So potentially could move up to #4 Yes this is better then a meaningless win Yeah with a season like this you gotta take the little wins. So where are we right now 5 or 6?
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Post by Miked1958 on Dec 30, 2018 17:30:30 GMT -5
well they started out #8 on day and moved up two spots with others ahead of them winning. Came close to #5 but TB ended up losing 34-32 to the falcons.. Still two more 4-11 teams playing with chance to tie Giants with wins. SF & Oakland although I don't know what the tie breakers are. So potentially could move up to #4 Yes this is better then a meaningless win Yeah with a season like this you gotta take the little wins. So where are we right now 5 or 6? wr picked up two spots from 8 to 6. TB lost by 2 points to hold onto the #5 spot Both SF and Oakland 3 scores down so doesn't look like we will pick up anymore ground So as of now most mocks have us taking Haskins ftom OSU
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Post by desertash on Dec 30, 2018 17:35:46 GMT -5
Also, WRs were covered well. We give up spots to opponent WRs and TEs by yards (other than that Beasley catch).
Our WRs were blanketed that last series. Gotta run Barkley on 1st or 2nd there, or screen to him.
Does Eli have the power to make that call when he reads the defense? Not saying he doesn't, but the base packages calling for the sidelines crap came from our coach. Eli used to be very adept at making those adjustments, unless he's going senile...I'm not sure that's all on him.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 30, 2018 18:00:28 GMT -5
Does Eli have the power to make that call when he reads the defense? Not saying he doesn't, but the base packages calling for the sidelines crap came from our coach. Eli used to be very adept at making those adjustments, unless he's going senile...I'm not sure that's all on him.
It's not all on him. But its definitly got his DNA all mixed with it. It's a losing culture on this team. I was hoping we shook it off with the change in coaching but it still stinks of losing. 5-11 with 4 wins vs backup QBs is just as bad as last year IMO. The offense picked it up with Odell and SQB vs last year but now the D looks to have almost no talent. And the offense is still so inconsistent. Next year I just dont see more than 5-6 wins again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 21:23:37 GMT -5
Facts. We should picket the league to change the D rankings to take into account the insurmountable circumstances the QB constantly puts them in. Sounds like that Turnover Worthy Throw metric. lol
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