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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 31, 2018 14:29:52 GMT -5
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 31, 2018 15:13:01 GMT -5
Thanks - I will check this out
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Post by cruzsoldier on Dec 31, 2018 15:15:15 GMT -5
Thanks - I will check this out Do you think Gettleman will be watching lol ? I’d say no cause Eli has years left. |
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Post by lasion2 on Dec 31, 2018 15:49:52 GMT -5
He better be.
How good is ok states defense?
Edit: quick google search = not good. If Lock doesn’t have his way with them, he comes off the board.
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Post by Miked1958 on Dec 31, 2018 17:23:20 GMT -5
Have not heard where he projects? Not in first round and behind Greer I saw in 2nd round
All mocks have us taking Haskins at 6
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 31, 2018 17:45:05 GMT -5
Missed the entire first half so my only observation on this game The 4 Tops somehow took anti aging pills because they look younger than me and they have been popular since the 60s.  |
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 31, 2018 18:41:24 GMT -5
Horrible camera work on that long TD pass Lock just threw
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Post by hadenough on Dec 31, 2018 18:54:06 GMT -5
Lock is the best QB in this draft. He’s good. He’s kind of like Mahomes. Big arm, makes all the throws and can make them from different angles and doesn’t need his feet perfect. I’d be fine with him at 6...but if they keep projecting lower...wouldn’t mind trading back and still getting him.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 31, 2018 19:36:18 GMT -5
He does not look like a top 10 pick.
Would be a desperation reach
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 31, 2018 19:39:16 GMT -5
Nope.
Not a fan.
Wouldn't be surprised to see him there in day 2.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 31, 2018 19:47:21 GMT -5
Has some NFL traits
Way too inconsistent for a top 10 qb
Someone will overdraft him though
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Post by Nite on Dec 31, 2018 19:49:06 GMT -5
Has some NFL traits Way too inconsistent for a top 10 qb Someone will overdraft him though Yup someone will reach for him. Had a good game against a very bad D. I see him as a 2nd round pick |
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 31, 2018 23:41:31 GMT -5
Lock is the best QB in this draft. He’s good. He’s kind of like Mahomes. Big arm, makes all the throws and can make them from different angles and doesn’t need his feet perfect. I’d be fine with him at 6...but if they keep projecting lower...wouldn’t mind trading back and still getting him. lol ... in any other year, he is not a first rounder. May not even be a first rounder this year |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 10:13:28 GMT -5
If he's there in the 3rd I would trade up for him. He will have a better oline, barkley as a runner that teams will fear and odell running routes. Per the negative article below, he has Stafford type ceiling. www.thehuddlereport.com/blog/drew-lock-qb-missouri/I think if we can surround him with the pieces he can do well behind a strong oline and a heavy run offense. Sitting and learning the pro offense behind Eli will help and shurmur will get the most out of him. |
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Post by TEM on Jan 1, 2019 10:15:24 GMT -5
If he's there in the 3rd I would trade up for him. He will have a better oline, barkley as a runner that teams will fear and odell running routes. Per the negative article below, he has Stafford type ceiling. www.thehuddlereport.com/blog/drew-lock-qb-missouri/I think if we can surround him with the pieces he can do well behind a strong oline a heavy run offense. Sitting and learning the pro offense behind Eli will help and shurmur will get the most out of him. IMO: Using a 3rd round draft pick on him is tenuous. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 10:24:52 GMT -5
If he's there in the 3rd I would trade up for him. He will have a better oline, barkley as a runner that teams will fear and odell running routes. Per the negative article below, he has Stafford type ceiling. www.thehuddlereport.com/blog/drew-lock-qb-missouri/I think if we can surround him with the pieces he can do well behind a strong oline a heavy run offense. Sitting and learning the pro offense behind Eli will help and shurmur will get the most out of him. IMO: Using a 3rd round draft pick on him is tenuous. but did you see that 3rd TD pass in the bowel game? 60 yards in the air and caught in stride. He's accurate, mobile but just can't handle the pressure. Not many qbs can but you can work around that, a running game, improved oline and even the system can help. Plus a qb can actually improve on this area. Can't teach arm talent that he has. If he's there in the 2nd when we pick, I'll. Sure be tempted. Mahomes had a lot of similar negatives coming out too. |
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Post by TEM on Jan 1, 2019 10:38:50 GMT -5
IMO: Using a 3rd round draft pick on him is tenuous. but did you see that 3rd TD pass in the bowel game? 60 yards in the air and caught in stride. He's accurate, mobile but just can't handle the pressure. Not many qbs can but you can work around that, a running game, improved oline and even the system can help. Plus a qb can actually improve on this area. Can't teach arm talent that he has. If he's there in the 2nd when we pick, I'll. Sure be tempted. Mahomes had a lot of similar negatives coming out too. Go look at the his games against Alabama and Georgia ( the closest to NFl Defenses) His throws are bad especially when outside the pocket. Yea he can hit wide open recievers against lesser opponents and make for great highlight reels . Going against belter Defenses . He is average at best. We can get FS, LB depth or O-line depth with a 3rd round pick . |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 10:45:39 GMT -5
but did you see that 3rd TD pass in the bowel game? 60 yards in the air and caught in stride. He's accurate, mobile but just can't handle the pressure. Not many qbs can but you can work around that, a running game, improved oline and even the system can help. Plus a qb can actually improve on this area. Can't teach arm talent that he has. If he's there in the 2nd when we pick, I'll. Sure be tempted. Mahomes had a lot of similar negatives coming out too. Go look at the his games against Alabama and George ( the closest to NFl Defenses) His throws are bad especially when outside the pocket. Yea he can hit wide open recievers against lesser opponents and make for great highlight reels . Going against belter Defenses . He is average at best. We can get FS, LB depth or O-line depth with a 3rd round pick . Hes had bad games against good defenses but he's still learning. IMO I rather take this kid in the 3rd(trade) than reach for haskins who hasn't been pressured once all season lol. All the qbs that are coming out have question marks so I would rather we improve our defense with the 1st and 2nd. But if he's there middle to late 2nd I'll be tempted for a trade. |
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Post by TEM on Jan 1, 2019 10:50:01 GMT -5
Go look at the his games against Alabama and George ( the closest to NFl Defenses) His throws are bad especially when outside the pocket. Yea he can hit wide open recievers against lesser opponents and make for great highlight reels . Going against belter Defenses . He is average at best. We can get FS, LB depth or O-line depth with a 3rd round pick . Hes had bad games against good defenses but he's still learning. IMO I rather take this kid in the 3rd(trade) than reach for haskins who hasn't been pressured once all season lol. All the qbs that are coming out have question marks so I would rather we improve our defense with the 1st and 2nd. But if he's there middle to late 2nd I'll be tempted for a trade. I am more inclined to put Lock in a project category 4th round or later in the draft. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 11:36:46 GMT -5
Hes had bad games against good defenses but he's still learning. IMO I rather take this kid in the 3rd(trade) than reach for haskins who hasn't been pressured once all season lol. All the qbs that are coming out have question marks so I would rather we improve our defense with the 1st and 2nd. But if he's there middle to late 2nd I'll be tempted for a trade. I am more inclined to put Lock in a project category 4th round or later in the draft. I can agree with that, we’re off by 1 round only.  |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 1, 2019 12:46:56 GMT -5
Yet go to BBV and the idiot clique there is frothing at the mouth for us to take him at 6
Haskins in the rose bowl can show a bit
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Post by lasion2 on Jan 1, 2019 13:24:00 GMT -5
So it’s pretty clear how the different minds are gonna go on this board this offseason.
Just to make it clear; we’re all ok with trading the entirety of our 2020 draft to trade up for tua, Fromm, or whoever?
I’m cool with it, but DG needs to hit on a TON of defensive players in the 2019 draft or it’s really all for naught. We’ll be marginally better next year, then just straight suck in 2020 with a rookie qb and no defense if he doesn’t kill 4th and 5th rounds this year.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 1, 2019 13:45:59 GMT -5
So it’s pretty clear how the different minds are gonna go on this board this offseason. Just to make it clear; we’re all ok with trading the entirety of our 2020 draft to trade up for tua, Fromm, or whoever? I’m cool with it, but DG needs to hit on a TON of defensive players in the 2019 draft or it’s really all for naught. We’ll be marginally better next year, then just straight suck in 2020 with a rookie qb and no defense if he doesn’t kill 4th and 5th rounds this year. His history in Carolina is that he hit on a lot of mid round picks,especially on the O line and secondary (where we need a lot of help |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 15:29:34 GMT -5
Yet go to BBV and the idiot clique there is frothing at the mouth for us to take him at 6 Haskins in the rose bowl can show a bit lock? LoL not in a million years with all our other needs. |
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Post by smitty on Jan 1, 2019 21:38:28 GMT -5
We don’t have a third round pick currently.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 5, 2019 21:27:55 GMT -5
He better be. How good is ok states defense? Edit: quick google search = not good. If Lock doesn’t have his way with them, he comes off the board. Lock has been better then people are giving him credit he doesn't have a ton of talent around him, big arm mobile and humble and I'm sure DG is watching every QB / DE /OL. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 5, 2019 21:30:55 GMT -5
So it’s pretty clear how the different minds are gonna go on this board this offseason. Just to make it clear; we’re all ok with trading the entirety of our 2020 draft to trade up for tua, Fromm, or whoever? I’m cool with it, but DG needs to hit on a TON of defensive players in the 2019 draft or it’s really all for naught. We’ll be marginally better next year, then just straight suck in 2020 with a rookie qb and no defense if he doesn’t kill 4th and 5th rounds this year. His history in Carolina is that he hit on a lot of mid round picks,especially on the O line and secondary (where we need a lot of help Interior DL too Short and Lautuelle don't think I spelled that right.They are gonna have 11-12 picks when it's all said and done. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 5, 2019 22:05:17 GMT -5
His history in Carolina is that he hit on a lot of mid round picks,especially on the O line and secondary (where we need a lot of help Interior DL too Short and Lautuelle don't think I spelled that right.They are gonna have 11-12 picks when it's all said and done. Louitai? 1st round pick Short was a 2nd(he went back to back d tackle to start that draft Trai Turner in the 4th(pro.bowl this year) |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 5, 2019 22:33:08 GMT -5
Interior DL too Short and Lautuelle don't think I spelled that right.They are gonna have 11-12 picks when it's all said and done. Louitai? 1st round pick Short was a 2nd(he went back to back d tackle to start that draft Trai Turner in the 4th(pro.bowl this year) wow 2 prowlers in one draft Short was a pro bowler to that is on good trench draft. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 5, 2019 22:34:08 GMT -5
Interior DL too Short and Lautuelle don't think I spelled that right.They are gonna have 11-12 picks when it's all said and done. Louitai? 1st round pick Short was a 2nd(he went back to back d tackle to start that draft Trai Turner in the 4th(pro.bowl this year) the spelling think maybe your better then me lol. |
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