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Post by TEM on Jul 7, 2018 20:20:57 GMT -5
The sound you here is the point flying over your head. Ok, ever so bright one, who loves to combat everybody on everything....... So what was your so PRECIOUS point? ? The yanks have a complete line up , Their deep and have guys they have to send down that are better then most teams have in their line up. They do not need Harper or Machado . Useless spending In my opinion, They can win without both of them . They need starting pitching. If they spend the money that Harper Or Manny would warrant and use it for 2 pitchers . They would be the Yanks of 90s all over again. Adding one or two more big bats to that line up will not change the fact starting pitching wins in the playoffs and will always shut down hitters.. Good pitching is what wins in the playoffs. PS learn how to articulate without being a prick It makes you look like an A**hole.
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Post by TEM on Jul 7, 2018 20:35:35 GMT -5
Ok, ever so bright one, who loves to combat everybody on everything....... So what was your so PRECIOUS point? ? The yanks have a complete line up , Their deep and have guys they have to send down that are better then most teams have in their line up. They do not need Harper or Machado . Useless spending In my opinion, They can win without both of them . They need starting pitching. If they spend the money that Harper Or Manny would warrant and use it for 2 pitchers . They would be the Yanks of 90s all over again. Adding one or two more big bats to that line up will not change the fact starting pitching wins in the playoffs and will always shut down hitters.. Good pitching is what wins in the playoffs. The sox do not have the power that yanks.yet are in 1st. Have the best record in the majors and won 60. The reason being they have balanced team . Just enough hitting to go with their good rotation. PS learn how to articulate without being a prick It makes you look like an A**hole.
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Jul 7, 2018 20:40:40 GMT -5
The yanks have a complete line up , Their deep and have guys they have to send down that are better then most teams have in their line up. They do not need Harper or Machado . Useless spending In my opinion, They can win without both of them . They need starting pitching. If they spend the money that Harper Or Manny would warrant and use it for 2 pitchers . They would be the Yanks of 90s all over again. Adding one or two more big bats to that line up will not change the fact starting pitching wins in the playoffs and will always shut down hitters.. Good pitching is what wins in the playoffs. The sox do not have the power that yanks.yet have and won 60. The reason being they have balanced team . Just enough hitting to go with their good rotation. PS learn how to articulate without being a prick It makes you look like an A**hole. First, you're the ULTIMATE PRICK!!! Second, I addressed your original post by stating, "lets see what Brian Cashman does in regards to starting pitching before the trading deadline. You chose to IGNORE that, and just state that your pointless point went over my head!
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Post by TEM on Jul 7, 2018 21:10:36 GMT -5
First, you're the ULTIMATE PRICK!!! Second, I addressed your original post by stating, "lets see what Brian Cashman does in regards to starting pitching before the trading deadline. You chose to IGNORE that, and just state that your pointless point went over my head! Getting a rent a pitcher for a few months is not signing starting pitchers,. There is a difference. They are on the cusp of the luxury tax now . That is reality. Do you think Cashman wants a 250 million dollar payroll?
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 7, 2018 21:30:04 GMT -5
First, you're the ULTIMATE PRICK!!! Second, I addressed your original post by stating, "lets see what Brian Cashman does in regards to starting pitching before the trading deadline. You chose to IGNORE that, and just state that your pointless point went over my head! Come on guys. Let not do this.
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Post by TEM on Jul 7, 2018 21:37:41 GMT -5
First, you're the ULTIMATE PRICK!!! Second, I addressed your original post by stating, "lets see what Brian Cashman does in regards to starting pitching before the trading deadline. You chose to IGNORE that, and just state that your pointless point went over my head! Come on guys. Let not do this. No kidding . he went on a titrate for no apparent reason. Just because I don't think the Yankees need harper he went berserk. ROTF.
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Jul 7, 2018 21:43:40 GMT -5
First, you're the ULTIMATE PRICK!!! Second, I addressed your original post by stating, "lets see what Brian Cashman does in regards to starting pitching before the trading deadline. You chose to IGNORE that, and just state that your pointless point went over my head! Getting a rent a pitcher for a few months is not signing starting pitchers,. There is a difference. They are on the cusp of the luxury tax now . That is reality. Do you think Cashman wants a 250 million dollar payroll? Ok, genius... So who should the Yankees sign? Do you honestly think top notch starting pitchers grows on trees? You wish your Muts were in the same scenario that the Yankees are in right now. By the way, I thank your organization for drafting Dominic Smith 11th overall in the 2013 draft, instead Aaron Judge....... LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Jul 7, 2018 21:45:45 GMT -5
Come on guys. Let not do this. No kidding . he went on a titrate for no apparent reason. Just because I don't think the Yankees need harper he went berserk. ROTF. Wrong... I went berserk because you acted like a condescending DOUCH-BAG!!!!!!!!! Which you are may times in general.
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Post by TEM on Jul 7, 2018 21:55:22 GMT -5
Getting a rent a pitcher for a few months is not signing starting pitchers,. There is a difference. They are on the cusp of the luxury tax now . That is reality. Do you think Cashman wants a 250 million dollar payroll? Ok, genius... So who should the Yankees sign? Do you honestly think top notch starting pitchers grows on trees? You wish your Muts were in the same scenario that the Yankees are in right now. By the way, I thank your organization for drafting Dominic Smith 11th overall in the 2013 draft, instead Aaron Judge....... LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don know what gives and why you have to be so belligerent . If anything I am a Mets fan complementing the yanks saying there 2 piece away from a dynasty another neither of them are harper. So what do you do call me names in response to it. What does Judge have to do with what I said. I don't see the relevance. In response to your question. Here are 2 that would put them over the top both 2019 FAs Adam Wainwright James Shields You can go after the Mets their FO deserves it. They know pitching . keep coming with the name calling .It does not bother me.
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Post by TEM on Jul 7, 2018 21:57:01 GMT -5
No kidding . he went on a titrate for no apparent reason. Just because I don't think the Yankees need harper he went berserk. ROTF. Wrong... I went berserk because you acted like a condescending DOUCH-BAG!!!!!!!!! Which you are may times in general. At least I know now what gets under your skin. You still have not found what gets under mine. Keep trying you'll get there.
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Jul 7, 2018 22:04:05 GMT -5
Ok, genius... So who should the Yankees sign? Do you honestly think top notch starting pitchers grows on trees? You wish your Muts were in the same scenario that the Yankees are in right now. By the way, I thank your organization for drafting Dominic Smith 11th overall in the 2013 draft, instead Aaron Judge....... LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don know what gives and why you have to be so belligerent . If anything I am a Mets fan complementing the yanks saying there 2 piece away from a dynasty another neither of them are harper. So what do you do call me names in response to it. What does Judge have to do with what I said. I don't see the relevance. In response to your question. Here are 2 that would put them over the top both 2019 FAs Adam Wainwright James Shields You can go after the Mets their FO deserves it. They know pitching . keep coming with the name calling .It does not bother me. Let me ask you this, genius... Where would the Red Sux be right now if their "playing chicken" scenario during the winter season backfired with JD Martinez, and he re-signed with Arizona or elsewhere? Morehead, I ask you the same question. JD Martinez has been more valuable to the Boston Red Sux this season so far, than Chris Sale has been..... Do you agree, Morehead?
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Jul 7, 2018 22:06:20 GMT -5
Wrong... I went berserk because you acted like a condescending DOUCH-BAG!!!!!!!!! Which you are may times in general. At least I know now what gets under your skin. You still have not found what gets under mine. Keep trying you'll get there. Is that what gets you off at night? Trying to get under people's skin here? If so, then you're more of a douche-bag than I thought.
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 7, 2018 22:07:41 GMT -5
I like both you guys but we are really determined to keep this a civil board. I think we all want it. It's important that we not let this stuff spin out of control.
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Post by TEM on Jul 7, 2018 22:17:51 GMT -5
I don know what gives and why you have to be so belligerent . If anything I am a Mets fan complementing the yanks saying there 2 piece away from a dynasty another neither of them are harper. So what do you do call me names in response to it. What does Judge have to do with what I said. I don't see the relevance. In response to your question. Here are 2 that would put them over the top both 2019 FAs Adam Wainwright James Shields You can go after the Mets their FO deserves it. They know pitching . keep coming with the name calling .It does not bother me. Let me ask you this, genius... Where would the Red Sux be right now if their "playing chicken" scenario during the winter season backfired with JD Martinez, and he re-signed with Arizona or elsewhere? Morehead, I ask you the same question. JD Martinez has been more valuable to the Boston Red Sux this season so far, than Chris Sale has been..... Do you agree, Morehead? At least you are becoming some what civil I will say can be condescending . I don't do it on purpose . It is because I am cynical by nature. It's not that I am argumentative . I Question the validity of everything. It is the way I am . I am inquisitive that is all. One of the reason I fit the job I have. IMO: you need to have balls of steel to be a GM in any sport. Most of think we could do it. No way we can our egos get bruised too easily . Having to be right all the time and a GM do not correlate Most times they throw the Dice . Dombrowski did with Martinez it hit a 7 . He could have also hit snake eyes.
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Post by TEM on Jul 7, 2018 22:20:32 GMT -5
At least I know now what gets under your skin. You still have not found what gets under mine. Keep trying you'll get there. Is that what gets you off at night? Trying to get under people's skin here? If so, then you're more of a douche-bag than I thought. Calm down I am trying to lighten thing up.
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Jul 7, 2018 22:20:42 GMT -5
I like both you guys but we are really determined to keep this a civil board. I think we all want it. It's important that we not let this stuff spin out of control. I agree.... For the record, I did not start the negative tone here, TEM did with his condescending "flew way over my head" comment. By the way, you didn't answer my question(s). 1. Who has been more valuable to the Red Sux' 1st half season success? Chris Sale or JD Martinez? 2. Where would the Red Sux be in the standings right now if JD signed elsewhere?
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 7, 2018 22:21:05 GMT -5
I'm employing a new rule. Using the term "Red Sux", with bring an automatic banishment.
I crack myself up!
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Jul 7, 2018 22:23:24 GMT -5
I'm employing a new rule. Using the term "Red Sux", with bring an automatic banishment. I crack myself up! I guess my days are numbered here..
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 7, 2018 22:24:22 GMT -5
I like both you guys but we are really determined to keep this a civil board. I think we all want it. It's important that we not let this stuff spin out of control. I agree.... For the record, I did not start the negative tone here, TEM did with his condescending "flew way over my head" comment. By the way, you didn't answer my question(s). 1. Who has been more valuable to the Red Sux' 1st half season success? Chris Sale or JD Martinez? 2. Where would the Red Sux be in the standings right now if JD signed elsewhere? Oh. Easy. JD for sure this season so far. we shall see moving forward though. Sale has been almost unhittable since he got those 6 days off.
Where would we be without JD? I don't know but not in first place.
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Post by TEM on Jul 7, 2018 22:26:19 GMT -5
I like both you guys but we are really determined to keep this a civil board. I think we all want it. It's important that we not let this stuff spin out of control. I agree.... For the record, I did not start the negative tone here, TEM did with his condescending "flew way over my head" comment. By the way, you didn't answer my question(s). 1. Who has been more valuable to the Red Sux' 1st half season success? Chris Sale or JD Martinez? 2. Where would the Red Sux be in the standings right now if JD signed elsewhere? It was meant as a joke. If you took it the wrong way I did not intend it that way I apologize. It was more of a way to show my point that and I still think pitching is more important the a big bat,
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 7, 2018 22:31:00 GMT -5
I agree.... For the record, I did not start the negative tone here, TEM did with his condescending "flew way over my head" comment. By the way, you didn't answer my question(s). 1. Who has been more valuable to the Red Sux' 1st half season success? Chris Sale or JD Martinez? 2. Where would the Red Sux be in the standings right now if JD signed elsewhere? It was meant as a joke. If you took it the wrong way I did not intend it that way I apologize. It was more of a way to show my point that and I still think pitching is more important the a big bat, All things being the same?...I agree. Pitching is the thing. But the Sox missed Ortiz's bat last year and needed someone in the middle of that lineup. And JD is one of those unselfish players who helps other guys on the team. He's a student of hitting.
I think the Yankees pitching is fine BTW. They just need to hit better for average. When you live by the HR you usually die by it.
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Post by TEM on Jul 7, 2018 22:42:38 GMT -5
It was meant as a joke. If you took it the wrong way I did not intend it that way I apologize. It was more of a way to show my point that and I still think pitching is more important the a big bat, All things being the same?...I agree. Pitching is the thing. But the Sox missed Ortiz's bat last year and needed someone in the middle of that lineup. And JD is one of those unselfish players who helps other guys on the team. He's a student of hitting.
I think the Yankees pitching is fine BTW. They just need to hit better for average. When you live by the HR you usually die by it.
Harper does not change that. I am a Mets fan but I am partial to the Yankees because they are in NY . I think they have one of the best power lineups in baseball. Outside of Betances ( who I think is a phenome) the rest can be shaky. They do not have a bonified #2 . Houston and Boston both have 2 guys that can shut down any team, Tanaka cant stay healthy. CC is CC. He can throw a no hitter one game and get shelled the next. . I will say this . He is having a good 1st half.
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 7, 2018 22:50:46 GMT -5
All things being the same?...I agree. Pitching is the thing. But the Sox missed Ortiz's bat last year and needed someone in the middle of that lineup. And JD is one of those unselfish players who helps other guys on the team. He's a student of hitting.
I think the Yankees pitching is fine BTW. They just need to hit better for average. When you live by the HR you usually die by it.
Harper does not change that. I am a Mets fan but I am partial to the Yankees because they are in NY . I think they have one of the best power lineups in baseball. Outside of Betances ( who I think is a phenome) the rest can be shaky. They do not have a bonified #2 . Houston and Boston both have 2 guys that can shut down any team, Tanaka cant stay healthy. CC is CC. He can throw a no hitter one game and get shelled the next. . I will say this . He is having a good 1st half. What did I miss? What does this have to do with Harper?
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 7, 2018 22:54:35 GMT -5
I agree.... For the record, I did not start the negative tone here, TEM did with his condescending "flew way over my head" comment. By the way, you didn't answer my question(s). 1. Who has been more valuable to the Red Sux' 1st half season success? Chris Sale or JD Martinez? 2. Where would the Red Sux be in the standings right now if JD signed elsewhere? It was meant as a joke. If you took it the wrong way I did not intend it that way I apologize. It was more of a way to show my point that and I still think pitching is more important the a big bat, It's a valid point imo, but as the Mets are proving over and over again it has to be both. You can't win with just one. The lights out starting pitching that wins playoff games is always accompanied by timely hitting and good bullpen support. Even if that support is only an inning or two. However, it seems that over a 162 game season, you won't get shut down pitching every turn of the rotation so you need to have some consistent hitting. I'm reasonably sure the Mets current starting pitching would fair well in a playoff game. The issue is they won't get there becuase they are completely built around starting pitching such that their hitting and bullpen are devoid of assets and they are absolutely horrible defensively. I have no idea of the ranking but i'd be shocked if the Mets were not in the bottom 5 in team defense. So, they don't make the playoffs and deGrom helps no one this post season. Starting pitching is damn important but it seems that the game is moving to hitting, bullpen, starting pitching in order of importance. I think the Yankees are looking for a 2-3 starter for this season. The Mets are too dunderheaded to do anything smart or bold so they'll keep all their top pitchers. Wheeler might be available and wouldn't cost anywhere near what deGrom or Syndergaard would. I think the Yankees will be prudent and get a second to third tier guy who can get them 5 or 6 decent innings. They don't overpay for anything, they're already built to win.
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Post by TEM on Jul 7, 2018 23:26:09 GMT -5
It was meant as a joke. If you took it the wrong way I did not intend it that way I apologize. It was more of a way to show my point that and I still think pitching is more important the a big bat, It's a valid point imo, but as the Mets are proving over and over again it has to be both. You can't win with just one. The lights out starting pitching that wins playoff games is always accompanied by timely hitting and good bullpen support. Even if that support is only an inning or two. However, it seems that over a 162 game season, you won't get shut down pitching every turn of the rotation so you need to have some consistent hitting. I'm reasonably sure the Mets current starting pitching would fair well in a playoff game. The issue is they won't get there becuase they are completely built around starting pitching such that their hitting and bullpen are devoid of assets and they are absolutely horrible defensively. I have no idea of the ranking but i'd be shocked if the Mets were not in the bottom 5 in team defense. So, they don't make the playoffs and deGrom helps no one this post season. Starting pitching is damn important but it seems that the game is moving to hitting, bullpen, starting pitching in order of importance. I think the Yankees are looking for a 2-3 starter for this season. The Mets are too dunderheaded to do anything smart or bold so they'll keep all their top pitchers. Wheeler might be available and wouldn't cost anywhere near what deGrom or Syndergaard would. I think the Yankees will be prudent and get a second to third tier guy who can get them 5 or 6 decent innings. They don't overpay for anything, they're already built to win. I think it has to do with balance . Pitching and enough hitting. Great pitching will always beat hitting.
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Jul 9, 2018 21:18:03 GMT -5
Well, who would've thought that today's dud would come from CC, and not from Luis Cessa?? Just like John Sterling always likes to say to Suzyn Waldman.... "That's baseball, Suzyn!!"
On a depressing note: The Red Sux just keep on beating up on weaker teams. Something the Yankees don't do!!
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Jul 10, 2018 6:57:54 GMT -5
What am I waking up to this morning?? Manny Machado pursuit proves no deal beyond realm of Yankees. BALTIMORE — So this is how the Yankees respond to the indignity of losing a game to the woeful Orioles, eh? You take a game off us, we take your best player home with us. We kid, of course. Kind of. Sort of. For now. But it wasn’t lost on anybody that a few minutes after the Orioles eked out a 5-4 win in the opener of Monday’s twi-night doubleheader at Camden Yards, a report surfaced on The Athletic that the Yankees had “increased interest” in trading for Manny Machado, Baltimore’s gifted shortstop. nypost.com/2018/07/10/manny-machado-pursuit-proves-no-deal-beyond-realm-of-yankees/
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 11, 2018 1:15:57 GMT -5
I don't understand why the Yankees would want Machado. I don't think they need him at all.
Plus everything is gonna be fine, the Dark Knight is coming!
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 11, 2018 8:07:07 GMT -5
I don't understand why the Yankees would want Machado. I don't think they need him at all. Plus everything is gonna be fine, the Dark Knight is coming! Michael Keaton?
He's awesome. he lives out here in the area of Livingston, MT.
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Post by GameTime on Jul 11, 2018 13:54:43 GMT -5
Yankees need another top starting pitcher.
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