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Post by jb456 on Jul 28, 2018 13:06:43 GMT -5
Alright everybody...CTFD..... Play nice. Debates are great. Different opinions are necessary. Keep in mind that texted media comes across how the reader sees it at times. Don’t be so quick to dis another poster. Step back and take a moment. If you want to challenge a post then by all means do it. But do it without getting “too” heated. That’s all...... Im a borderline pessimistic person. I've been critical of the coaching staff, Manning, Beckham's mental lapses and my outlook for the defense this year. I'm far from a homer and predicted 8 or less wins this season. With all that being said, you can tell from my posts that I am an actual Giants fan. I'm cautiously optimistic about the oline revamp and the Giants new coaching staff. I'm over 50 percent sure this guy is a troll and if not,he is one of the biggest pessimists I've encountered. I've seen opposing fans who hate the Giants give the Giants more respect than this guy. |
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Post by amarth on Jul 28, 2018 13:38:17 GMT -5
Alright everybody...CTFD..... Play nice. Debates are great. Different opinions are necessary. Keep in mind that texted media comes across how the reader sees it at times. Don’t be so quick to dis another poster. Step back and take a moment. If you want to challenge a post then by all means do it. But do it without getting “too” heated. That’s all...... Im a borderline pessimistic person. I've been critical of the coaching staff, Manning, Beckham's mental lapses and my outlook for the defense this year. I'm far from a homer and predicted 8 or less wins this season. With all that being said, you can tell from my posts that I am an actual Giants fan. I'm cautiously optimistic about the oline revamp and the Giants new coaching staff. I'm over 50 percent sure this guy is a troll and if not,he is one of the biggest pessimists I've encountered. I've seen opposing fans who hate the Giants give the Giants more respect than this guy. And I’m 100% you’re full of shit and don’t know what you’re talking about. Perhaps I should look through your post history and make a determination of what you think and who you are. Nice try detective, remember every time you point the finger there’s three pointing back at you hypocrite. Based on what you said above, please tell me how you are an “actual” Giants fan based on your posts and I’m not. Be specific. I’ve been critical of OBJ’s off the field behavioras you say you have. I’ve also been cautiously optimistic about the O line minus Flowers, as you say you have. I’ve been critical of McAdoo but have stated I like Shurmur and he was first pick as HC (minus his lack of adjustment against Philthy in the playoffs). I’ve been pretty much neutral on Barkley but it wasn’t my favorite pick. I loved Hernandez as our second pick. Unlike a lot of people, I haven’t been critical of Eli at all. I’ve said I like Betcher but am concerned about lack of depth at CB. I have been mostly critical of DG picking Stewart but said he’s done a fair/average job. I’ve stated all of this already but people like you like to cherry pick posts and only see what you want to see. You must be something special to be able to determine that you’re 50% I’m a troll based on all of that. I guess your a posting genius to be able to be so critical yet make it clear we “can tell from your posts that you’re a Giants fan”. Get a life dude. |
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Post by TEM on Jul 28, 2018 13:43:54 GMT -5
Im a borderline pessimistic person. I've been critical of the coaching staff, Manning, Beckham's mental lapses and my outlook for the defense this year. I'm far from a homer and predicted 8 or less wins this season. With all that being said, you can tell from my posts that I am an actual Giants fan. I'm cautiously optimistic about the oline revamp and the Giants new coaching staff. I'm over 50 percent sure this guy is a troll and if not,he is one of the biggest pessimists I've encountered. I've seen opposing fans who hate the Giants give the Giants more respect than this guy. Perhaps I should look through your post history and make a determination of what you think and who you are. Nice try detective, remember every time you point the finger there’s three pointing back at you hypocrite. Based on what you said above, please tell me how you are an “actual” Giants fan based on your posts and I’m not. Be specific. I’ve been critical of OBJ’s off the field behavioras you say you have. I’ve also been cautiously optimistic about the O line minus Flowers, as you say you have. I’ve been critical of McAdoo but have stated I like Shurmur and he was first pick as HC (minus his lack of adjustment against Philthy in the playoffs). I’ve been pretty much neutral on Barkley but it wasn’t my favorite pick. I loved Hernandez as our second pick. Unlike a lot of people, I haven’t been critical of Eli at all. I’ve said I like Betcher but am concerned about lack of depth at CB. I have been mostly critical of DG picking Stewart but said he’s done a fair/average job. I’ve stated all of this already but people like you like to cherry pick posts and only see what you want to see. You must be something special to be able to determine that you’re 50% I’m a troll based on all of that. I guess your a posting genius to be able to be so critical yet make it clear we “can tell from your posts that you’re a Giants fan”. Get a life dude. This is where you lose all creditability . I stopped reading after that. |
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Post by goldenratio on Jul 28, 2018 13:48:57 GMT -5
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Post by amarth on Jul 28, 2018 13:51:39 GMT -5
And I’m 100% you’re full of shit and don’t know what you’re talking about. Perhaps I should look through your post history and make a determination of what you think and who you are. Nice try detective, remember every time you point the finger there’s three pointing back at you hypocrite. Based on what you said above, please tell me how you are an “actual” Giants fan based on your posts and I’m not. Be specific. I’ve been critical of OBJ’s off the field behavioras you say you have. I’ve also been cautiously optimistic about the O line minus Flowers, as you say you have. I’ve been critical of McAdoo but have stated I like Shurmur and he was first pick as HC (minus his lack of adjustment against Philthy in the playoffs). I’ve been pretty much neutral on Barkley but it wasn’t my favorite pick. I loved Hernandez as our second pick. Unlike a lot of people, I haven’t been critical of Eli at all. I’ve said I like Betcher but am concerned about lack of depth at CB. I have been mostly critical of DG picking Stewart but said he’s done a fair/average job. I’ve stated all of this already but people like you like to cherry pick posts and only see what you want to see. You must be something special to be able to determine that you’re 50% I’m a troll based on all of that. I guess your a posting genius to be able to be so critical yet make it clear we “can tell from your posts that you’re a Giants fan”. Get a life dude. This is where you lose all creditability . I stopped reading after that. Good for you. He calls me a troll then as I said, I can say with certainty he’s full of shit. Would it have been better if I said feces? Please tell me how it’s acceptable to call someone a troll but not call someone full of shit? Isn’t it the same thing in a sense? If someone is a troll, they are lying and deceiving. If someone is full of shit, they are lying and deceiving. Apologies if you don’t like my terminology but personally someone saying I’m full of shit is less offensive then someone accusing me of not being a fan of a team I’ve loved my entire life because they don’t like my posts. |
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Post by TEM on Jul 28, 2018 13:54:50 GMT -5
This is where you lose all creditability . I stopped reading after that. Good for you. He calls me a troll then as I said, I can say with certainty he’s full of shit. Would it have been better if I said feces? Please tell me how it’s acceptable to call someone a troll but not call someone full of shit? Isn’t it the same thing in a sense? If someone is a troll, they are lying and deceiving. If someone is full of shit, they are lying and deceiving. Apologies if you don’t like my terminology but personally someone saying I’m full of shit is less offensive then someone accusing me of not being a fan of a team I’ve loved my entire life because they don’t like my posts. So the next logical thing to do is double down and stoop to a lower level? |
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Post by amarth on Jul 28, 2018 14:09:01 GMT -5
Good for you. He calls me a troll then as I said, I can say with certainty he’s full of shit. Would it have been better if I said feces? Please tell me how it’s acceptable to call someone a troll but not call someone full of shit? Isn’t it the same thing in a sense? If someone is a troll, they are lying and deceiving. If someone is full of shit, they are lying and deceiving. Apologies if you don’t like my terminology but personally someone saying I’m full of shit is less offensive then someone accusing me of not being a fan of a team I’ve loved my entire life because they don’t like my posts. So the next logical thing to do is double down and stoop to a lower level? It’s not ideal, no, but if your character were constantly attacked because you were concerned and critical with your posts then how would you respond? As I’ve said, it’s fine if people disagree with me, I encourage it, maybe I’ll change my mind or feel better about a certain situation but to come out and make personal attacks, most of which are based on only selective posts, then I’ll get defensive. Keep in mind, not one time have I provoked any of this. All I’ve done is post critical comments that people don’t like or agree with. If they want to ignore me, go for it, that’s what it’s there for. If you want to have a logical debate, let’s do it. If you want to personally attack me and announce to the forum that you think I’m a troll, want to make a inaccurate accusations and refuse to back them up when asked or in some cases, straight up lie...then yes, I will stoop lower. It doesn’t make it right but attacking me publicly based on personal opinion or lies is about as low as it gets IMO. |
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Post by GameTime on Jul 28, 2018 14:10:38 GMT -5
Alright everybody...CTFD..... Play nice. Debates are great. Different opinions are necessary. Keep in mind that texted media comes across how the reader sees it at times. Don’t be so quick to dis another poster. Step back and take a moment. If you want to challenge a post then by all means do it. But do it without getting “too” heated. That’s all...... Im a borderline pessimistic person. I've been critical of the coaching staff, Manning, Beckham's mental lapses and my outlook for the defense this year. I'm far from a homer and predicted 8 or less wins this season. With all that being said, you can tell from my posts that I am an actual Giants fan. I'm cautiously optimistic about the oline revamp and the Giants new coaching staff. I'm over 50 percent sure this guy is a troll and if not,he is one of the biggest pessimists I've encountered. I've seen opposing fans who hate the Giants give the Giants more respect than this guy. No need to call anyone a troll on this thread. He isn’t a troll. Not every fan is how “you” want them to be. |
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Post by GameTime on Jul 28, 2018 14:11:49 GMT -5
Im a borderline pessimistic person. I've been critical of the coaching staff, Manning, Beckham's mental lapses and my outlook for the defense this year. I'm far from a homer and predicted 8 or less wins this season. With all that being said, you can tell from my posts that I am an actual Giants fan. I'm cautiously optimistic about the oline revamp and the Giants new coaching staff. I'm over 50 percent sure this guy is a troll and if not,he is one of the biggest pessimists I've encountered. I've seen opposing fans who hate the Giants give the Giants more respect than this guy. And I’m 100% you’re full of shit and don’t know what you’re talking about. Perhaps I should look through your post history and make a determination of what you think and who you are. Nice try detective, remember every time you point the finger there’s three pointing back at you hypocrite. Based on what you said above, please tell me how you are an “actual” Giants fan based on your posts and I’m not. Be specific. I’ve been critical of OBJ’s off the field behavioras you say you have. I’ve also been cautiously optimistic about the O line minus Flowers, as you say you have. I’ve been critical of McAdoo but have stated I like Shurmur and he was first pick as HC (minus his lack of adjustment against Philthy in the playoffs). I’ve been pretty much neutral on Barkley but it wasn’t my favorite pick. I loved Hernandez as our second pick. Unlike a lot of people, I haven’t been critical of Eli at all. I’ve said I like Betcher but am concerned about lack of depth at CB. I have been mostly critical of DG picking Stewart but said he’s done a fair/average job. I’ve stated all of this already but people like you like to cherry pick posts and only see what you want to see. You must be something special to be able to determine that you’re 50% I’m a troll based on all of that. I guess your a posting genius to be able to be so critical yet make it clear we “can tell from your posts that you’re a Giants fan”. Get a life dude. Defending yourself is fine. Do it without cursing. Thank you. |
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Post by jb456 on Jul 28, 2018 14:11:57 GMT -5
And I’m 100% you’re full of shit and don’t know what you’re talking about. Perhaps I should look through your post history and make a determination of what you think and who you are. Nice try detective, remember every time you point the finger there’s three pointing back at you hypocrite. Based on what you said above, please tell me how you are an “actual” Giants fan based on your posts and I’m not. Be specific. I’ve been critical of OBJ’s off the field behavioras you say you have. I’ve also been cautiously optimistic about the O line minus Flowers, as you say you have. I’ve been critical of McAdoo but have stated I like Shurmur and he was first pick as HC (minus his lack of adjustment against Philthy in the playoffs). I’ve been pretty much neutral on Barkley but it wasn’t my favorite pick. I loved Hernandez as our second pick. Unlike a lot of people, I haven’t been critical of Eli at all. I’ve said I like Betcher but am concerned about lack of depth at CB. I have been mostly critical of DG picking Stewart but said he’s done a fair/average job. I’ve stated all of this already but people like you like to cherry pick posts and only see what you want to see. You must be something special to be able to determine that you’re 50% I’m a troll based on all of that. I guess your a posting genius to be able to be so critical yet make it clear we “can tell from your posts that you’re a Giants fan”. Get a life dude. This is where you lose all creditability . I stopped reading after that. LMAO, that's exactly where I stopped. I'm not reading that wall of text when it starts like that..... |
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Post by amarth on Jul 28, 2018 14:13:15 GMT -5
And I apologize to those who have had to put up with it but if someone is going to call me out publicly I will respond publicly. If any of you don’t like what I have to say, do yourself and all of us a favor by putting me on ignore without making a personal attack. I don’t know what anyone would expect, ya know, the whole poking the bear thing.
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Post by GameTime on Jul 28, 2018 14:14:17 GMT -5
I really don’t see what is so hard about participating in a thread without getting personal or calling another poster out in this type of fashion.
Either act like adults or don’t post here.
Discussions, debates, disagreements, are all going to happen. People will get heated......I get that.
Keep it civil or go somewhere else to vent.
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Post by TEM on Jul 28, 2018 14:15:48 GMT -5
So the next logical thing to do is double down and stoop to a lower level? It’s not ideal, no, but if your character were constantly attacked because you were concerned and critical with your posts then how would you respond? As I’ve said, it’s fine if people disagree with me, I encourage it, maybe I’ll change my mind or feel better about a certain situation but to come out and make personal attacks, most of which are based on only selective posts, then I’ll get defensive. Keep in mind, not one time have I provoked any of this. All I’ve done is post critical comments that people don’t like or agree with. If they want to ignore me, go for it, that’s what it’s there for. If you want to have a logical debate, let’s do it. If you want to personally attack me and announce to the forum that you think I’m a troll, want to make a inaccurate accusations and refuse to back them up when asked or in some cases, straight up lie...then yes, I will stoop lower. It doesn’t make it right but attacking me publicly based on personal opinion or lies is about as low as it gets IMO. Be the bigger person and use your savvy to prove them wrong. |
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Post by amarth on Jul 28, 2018 14:15:49 GMT -5
And I’m 100% you’re full of shit and don’t know what you’re talking about. Perhaps I should look through your post history and make a determination of what you think and who you are. Nice try detective, remember every time you point the finger there’s three pointing back at you hypocrite. Based on what you said above, please tell me how you are an “actual” Giants fan based on your posts and I’m not. Be specific. I’ve been critical of OBJ’s off the field behavioras you say you have. I’ve also been cautiously optimistic about the O line minus Flowers, as you say you have. I’ve been critical of McAdoo but have stated I like Shurmur and he was first pick as HC (minus his lack of adjustment against Philthy in the playoffs). I’ve been pretty much neutral on Barkley but it wasn’t my favorite pick. I loved Hernandez as our second pick. Unlike a lot of people, I haven’t been critical of Eli at all. I’ve said I like Betcher but am concerned about lack of depth at CB. I have been mostly critical of DG picking Stewart but said he’s done a fair/average job. I’ve stated all of this already but people like you like to cherry pick posts and only see what you want to see. You must be something special to be able to determine that you’re 50% I’m a troll based on all of that. I guess your a posting genius to be able to be so critical yet make it clear we “can tell from your posts that you’re a Giants fan”. Get a life dude. Defending yourself is fine. Do it without cursing. Thank you. Sorry, I actually swear more than I should in real life and have been, uh, taking advantage of the new format, haha. I’ll fix it. I also apologize to anyone else if I offended you with my language. |
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Post by GameTime on Jul 28, 2018 14:19:31 GMT -5
Defending yourself is fine. Do it without cursing. Thank you. Sorry, I actually swear more than I should in real life and have been, uh, taking advantage of the new format, haha. I’ll fix it. I also apologize to anyone else if I offended you with my language. Cool....thank you. |
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Post by amarth on Jul 28, 2018 14:22:09 GMT -5
It’s not ideal, no, but if your character were constantly attacked because you were concerned and critical with your posts then how would you respond? As I’ve said, it’s fine if people disagree with me, I encourage it, maybe I’ll change my mind or feel better about a certain situation but to come out and make personal attacks, most of which are based on only selective posts, then I’ll get defensive. Keep in mind, not one time have I provoked any of this. All I’ve done is post critical comments that people don’t like or agree with. If they want to ignore me, go for it, that’s what it’s there for. If you want to have a logical debate, let’s do it. If you want to personally attack me and announce to the forum that you think I’m a troll, want to make a inaccurate accusations and refuse to back them up when asked or in some cases, straight up lie...then yes, I will stoop lower. It doesn’t make it right but attacking me publicly based on personal opinion or lies is about as low as it gets IMO. Be the bigger person and use your savvy to prove them wrong. Ugh...you’re right, it’s just been a lot lately and the whole doing it in public and cherry picking my posts is not only rude but frustrating. I feel like I’m banging my head on a wall and that I can’t post certain legitimate concerns without the accusations. I fully admit I’m a pessimist and always have been, it’s alamist a defense mechanism that I can explain but I’m sure no one wants to hear. It’s almost like a player on the O line, if you don’t hear their name it’s a good thing. So I have a tendency to focus on my biggest concerns not what I think are our biggest strengths (although I do occasionally mention them). I can even understand why people may not want to read my posts but it doesn’t give them a right to call me out like they have. I do think talking about our weaknesses is a good thing though. I posted a comment about how I feel better about the O line but am concerned about Flowers. I tried to keep it positive and informative by asking what people thought the coaches would do to compensate for his weakness (ie use Ellison more, 2 TE sets, etc). Only one person answerd my post and it was “you’re nothing but negative, blah blah blah). It was a realistic and legitimate question that the coaches are mist oikley thinking about as well and that’s the response I get. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 28, 2018 14:24:17 GMT -5
And I apologize to those who have had to put up with it but if someone is going to call me out publicly I will respond publicly. If any of you don’t like what I have to say, do yourself and all of us a favor by putting me on ignore without making a personal attack. I don’t know what anyone would expect, ya know, the whole poking the bear thing.
I don't believe you're a troll, but you seem to take a negative stance on everything I've read, and that can rub fans the wrong way.
I think I'm a pretty critical fan and one with a vested interest, I feel I'm even more demanding of the team than most.
I'm pumped for this upcoming season. I like what DG has done and I'm happy with Shurmur and Bettcher leading both sides of the ball.
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Post by goldenratio on Jul 28, 2018 14:28:25 GMT -5
Good for you. He calls me a troll then as I said, I can say with certainty he’s full of shit. Would it have been better if I said feces? Please tell me how it’s acceptable to call someone a troll but not call someone full of shit? Isn’t it the same thing in a sense? If someone is a troll, they are lying and deceiving. If someone is full of shit, they are lying and deceiving. Apologies if you don’t like my terminology but personally someone saying I’m full of shit is less offensive then someone accusing me of not being a fan of a team I’ve loved my entire life because they don’t like my posts. So the next logical thing to do is double down and stoop to a lower level? Not speaking about any poster in particular but.....Most of us when we were Younger had yet to learn the value of taking the high road, looking in the mirror and asking "Is there anything I can change about myself to become a better person?" Not everyone is capable of receiving constructive criticism in life or hearing the truth because the truth hurts their feelings/ego and they become defensive. Part of being human. I was young and dumb and defensive once upon a time also. Sei La vie. Best thing to do in a forum IMO to go back and re-read all of your own posts. Ask "What about that post might rub folks the wrong way". Could I have chosen a better way to phrase stuff? etc. I'm sure we all could do better. Personally i was very lucky to have become friends with someone from India in a more spiritual setting/forum. The culture their is completely different. They value Humbleness above pretty much all else. Something very foreign in the USA and especially to New Yorkers(I'm from NY originally). Humbling yourself is the hardest work but also the most rewarding. gives you the power to rise above, eventually pretty much anything. Posts on forums really should not bother any of us if we think about it. I'm just an old(almost 50!) wise guy though, what the heck do I know? ;D |
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Post by amarth on Jul 28, 2018 14:33:35 GMT -5
And I apologize to those who have had to put up with it but if someone is going to call me out publicly I will respond publicly. If any of you don’t like what I have to say, do yourself and all of us a favor by putting me on ignore without making a personal attack. I don’t know what anyone would expect, ya know, the whole poking the bear thing.
I don't believe you're a troll, but you seem to take a negative stance on everything I've read, and that can rub fans the wrong way.
I think I'm a pretty critical fan and one with a vested interest, I feel I'm even more demanding of the team than most.
I'm pumped for this upcoming season. I like what DG has done and I'm happy with Shurmur and Bettcher leading both sides of the ball.
I encourage you to actually read my post history. Yes, the majority of what I’ve posted is negative but definitely not all of it like most claim. If it rubs people the wrong way then I’m sorry, put me on ignore, there’s no need to make false accusations publicly. Do I think Barkley will run for 2,000 yards? No (although it would be nice) but I don’t attack that person calling him a homer, delusional, etc. |
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Post by TEM on Jul 28, 2018 14:34:03 GMT -5
So the next logical thing to do is double down and stoop to a lower level? Not speaking about any poster in particular but.....Most of us when we were Younger had yet to learn the value of taking the high road, looking in the mirror and asking "Is there anything I can change about myself to become a better person?" Not everyone is capable of receiving constructive criticism in life or hearing the truth because the truth hurts their feelings/ego and they become defensive. Part of being human. I was young and dumb and defensive once upon a time also. Sei La vie. Best thing to do in a forum IMO to go back and re-read all of your own posts. Ask "What about that post might rub folks the wrong way". Could I have chosen a better way to phrase stuff? etc. I'm sure we all could do better. I'm just an old(almost 50!) wise guy though, what the heck do I know? ;D When I was in my late teens and early 20s . I thought I knew everything and had it all figured out. The day I gained the ability to learn again was day I understood the concept of wisdom. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 28, 2018 14:44:03 GMT -5
I don't believe you're a troll, but you seem to take a negative stance on everything I've read, and that can rub fans the wrong way.
I think I'm a pretty critical fan and one with a vested interest, I feel I'm even more demanding of the team than most.
I'm pumped for this upcoming season. I like what DG has done and I'm happy with Shurmur and Bettcher leading both sides of the ball.
I encourage you to actually read my post history. Yes, the majority of what I’ve posted is negative but definitely not all of it like most claim. If it rubs people the wrong way then I’m sorry, put me on ignore, there’s no need to make false accusations publicly. Do I think Barkley will run for 2,000 yards? No (although it would be nice) but I don’t attack that person calling him a homer, delusional, etc.
I hear ya. It may not be right, but fans don't like other fans bringing them down. They'd rather wait for the team to do it.
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Post by goldenratio on Jul 28, 2018 14:46:44 GMT -5
I don't believe you're a troll, but you seem to take a negative stance on everything I've read, and that can rub fans the wrong way.
I think I'm a pretty critical fan and one with a vested interest, I feel I'm even more demanding of the team than most.
I'm pumped for this upcoming season. I like what DG has done and I'm happy with Shurmur and Bettcher leading both sides of the ball.
I encourage you to actually read my post history. Yes, the majority of what I’ve posted is negative but definitely not all of it like most claim. If it rubs people the wrong way then I’m sorry, put me on ignore, there’s no need to make false accusations publicly. Do I think Barkley will run for 2,000 yards? No (although it would be nice) but I don’t attack that person calling him a homer, delusional, etc. Do you really think anyone is going to go read your posts? seriously? Why wont you go back and re-read your own posts in order to do better in the future? You rather keep fighting than accept the fact that multiple people said you are rubbing them the wrong way? If the whole world is telling you you're wrong, guess what? you are wrong. Even if you are right, BTW nobody has a problem with criticism of the football. i remember TEM at the old board fighting with everyone saying he thought barkely's game had some flaws and perhaps wasn't as good a RB as the hype. It was basically TEM against the entire NYG MB. But TEM did it with respect and facts and figures not with judgmental words such as "scrubs" and garbage and insults and negative tonality. The fact that you don't get what it is you did wrong says it all. You insulted me personally by calling me old etc. Did i defend myself or attack you back? No. Even though I see your comments as hypocritical. I said nothing. I just put what i perceived as the truth up so you can improve yourself if you so choose. It's completely up to you how you choose to react. I don't care what you do. But I decided not to ignore you because everyone deserves a second chance and everyone is entitled to redeem themselves. So here is your chance. Lets see if you know how to take the high road. |
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Post by amarth on Jul 28, 2018 14:52:16 GMT -5
So the next logical thing to do is double down and stoop to a lower level? Not speaking about any poster in particular but.....Most of us when we were Younger had yet to learn the value of taking the high road, looking in the mirror and asking "Is there anything I can change about myself to become a better person?" Not everyone is capable of receiving constructive criticism in life or hearing the truth because the truth hurts their feelings/ego and they become defensive. Part of being human. I was young and dumb and defensive once upon a time also. Sei La vie. Best thing to do in a forum IMO to go back and re-read all of your own posts. Ask "What about that post might rub folks the wrong way". Could I have chosen a better way to phrase stuff? etc. I'm sure we all could do better. I'm just an old(almost 50!) wise guy though, what the heck do I know? ;D It’s ok, you can say you’re talking about me  As I’ve stated, sure there are comments I have made that can rub people the wrong way and I also understand the truth hurts sometimes. I rarely address the strengths because that’s not my personality, yes, I’m largely pessimistic and negative but I also feel our strengths are set so there’s no need in discussing them as much. On the other hand, hopefully some of our weaknesses can be fixed so I tend to criticize and post more about those which is why I question what can we do about Rosas, Flowers, the lack of depth at CB, etc. Usually, instead of solutions or possibilities or even just a disagreement, the first reposnse is an attack on me. You’re absolutely right about how I could have handled things better (as we all can) and although you acknowledged it somewhat and please don’t take offense but think of how you could have handled your post about ignoring me differently. Listen, contrary to what many of you may think, we’re all cheering for the same team so I don’t want to make anything personal with a fellow fan but please keep that in mind before posting something about my character which is in itself personal. Just an FYI, I’m just as critical and passionate in real life. I hate the Cowboys so much that my parents won’t even come over when the Giants play the them because I’m too busy yelling, criticizing, etc unless they’re winning of course. If they’re losing, I’m that miserable to be around, sad but true. I live in TX and have not worked during a single Cowboys/Giants game in 16 years because I don’t want to be surrounded by my co workers who are all Cowboys fans, they make me sick. I have some other slightly abnormal “tendencies” that aren’t typical of what some may consider a true “Giants” fan. I’m sorry but that’s who I am. |
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Post by amarth on Jul 28, 2018 14:52:56 GMT -5
Not speaking about any poster in particular but.....Most of us when we were Younger had yet to learn the value of taking the high road, looking in the mirror and asking "Is there anything I can change about myself to become a better person?" Not everyone is capable of receiving constructive criticism in life or hearing the truth because the truth hurts their feelings/ego and they become defensive. Part of being human. I was young and dumb and defensive once upon a time also. Sei La vie. Best thing to do in a forum IMO to go back and re-read all of your own posts. Ask "What about that post might rub folks the wrong way". Could I have chosen a better way to phrase stuff? etc. I'm sure we all could do better. I'm just an old(almost 50!) wise guy though, what the heck do I know? ;D When I was in my late teens and early 20s . I thought I knew everything and had it all figured out. The day I gained the ability to learn again was day I understood the concept of wisdom. Confuscious? |
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Post by goldenratio on Jul 28, 2018 14:53:11 GMT -5
Lets talk about football... amba had another good day yesterday according to the news stories. anyone read that? Not sure he is any better than any of the other many WRs competing for that number 3 spot though. AHe is off to good start to camp though with being mentioned by the press 2 days in a row. OTOH we've seen this before during camp.
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Post by amarth on Jul 28, 2018 14:58:42 GMT -5
I encourage you to actually read my post history. Yes, the majority of what I’ve posted is negative but definitely not all of it like most claim. If it rubs people the wrong way then I’m sorry, put me on ignore, there’s no need to make false accusations publicly. Do I think Barkley will run for 2,000 yards? No (although it would be nice) but I don’t attack that person calling him a homer, delusional, etc. Do you really think anyone is going to go read your posts? seriously? Why wont you go back and re-read your own posts in order to do better in the future? You rather keep fighting than accept the fact that multiple people said you are rubbing them the wrong way? If the whole world is telling you you're wrong, guess what? you are wrong. Even if you are right, BTW nobody has a problem with criticism of the football. i remember TEM at the old board fighting with everyone saying he thought barkely's game had some flaws and perhaps wasn't as good a RB as the hype. It was basically TEM against the entire NYG MB. But TEM did it with respect and facts and figures not with judgmental words such as "scrubs" and garbage and insults and negative tonality. The fact that you don't get what it is you did wrong says it all. You insulted me personally by calling me old etc. Did i defend myself or attack you back? No. Even though I see your comments as hypocritical. I said nothing. I just put what i perceived as the truth up so you can improve yourself if you so choose. It's completely up to you how you choose to react. I don't care what you do. But I decided not to ignore you because everyone deserves a second chance and everyone is entitled to redeem themselves. So here is your chance. Lets see if you know how to take the high road. Sorry you don’t like my terminology for guys that won’t make the 52 man roster. I refuse to admit I’m wrong for defending my character when someone pubicly and personally offends me. Perhaps you should re read your own post, you called yourself old otherwise I wouldn’t have known. And you still haven’t admitted that calling me out publicly was wrong. Yes, some of my comments were hypocritical. I’m done, if you don’t like my response feel free to permanently ignore me. |
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Post by goldenratio on Jul 28, 2018 15:04:35 GMT -5
Do you really think anyone is going to go read your posts? seriously? Why wont you go back and re-read your own posts in order to do better in the future? You rather keep fighting than accept the fact that multiple people said you are rubbing them the wrong way? If the whole world is telling you you're wrong, guess what? you are wrong. Even if you are right, BTW nobody has a problem with criticism of the football. i remember TEM at the old board fighting with everyone saying he thought barkely's game had some flaws and perhaps wasn't as good a RB as the hype. It was basically TEM against the entire NYG MB. But TEM did it with respect and facts and figures not with judgmental words such as "scrubs" and garbage and insults and negative tonality. The fact that you don't get what it is you did wrong says it all. You insulted me personally by calling me old etc. Did i defend myself or attack you back? No. Even though I see your comments as hypocritical. I said nothing. I just put what i perceived as the truth up so you can improve yourself if you so choose. It's completely up to you how you choose to react. I don't care what you do. But I decided not to ignore you because everyone deserves a second chance and everyone is entitled to redeem themselves. So here is your chance. Lets see if you know how to take the high road. Sorry you don’t like my terminology for guys that won’t make the 52 man roster. I refuse to admit I’m wrong for defending my character when someone pubicly and personally offends me. Perhaps you should re read your own post, you called yourself old otherwise I wouldn’t have known. And you still haven’t admitted that calling me out publicly was wrong. Yes, some of my comments were hypocritical. I’m done, if you don’t like my response feel free to permanently ignore me. yeah. that's what i thought. you just could't do it. You couldn't take the high road. You still think the best course of action is to argue. It's OK some day you will learn. I forgive you. What a man thinks is completely and totally garbage. You probably have no idea what I'm saying. But what i see if you defending what you think. I used to live in the cave also. www.google.com/search?q=allegory+of+the+cave&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS806US806&oq=allegory+of+the+cave&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3599j1j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8Sadly, you may never know the splendor of life outside the cave, in the Light. I can't help you friend. Only you can help yourself. |
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Post by amarth on Jul 28, 2018 15:32:45 GMT -5
Sorry you don’t like my terminology for guys that won’t make the 52 man roster. I refuse to admit I’m wrong for defending my character when someone pubicly and personally offends me. Perhaps you should re read your own post, you called yourself old otherwise I wouldn’t have known. And you still haven’t admitted that calling me out publicly was wrong. Yes, some of my comments were hypocritical. I’m done, if you don’t like my response feel free to permanently ignore me. yeah. that's what i thought. you just could't do it. You couldn't take the high road. You still think the best course of action is to argue. It's OK some day you will learn. I forgive you. What a man thinks is completely and totally garbage. You probably have no idea what I'm saying. But what i see if you defending what you think. I used to live in the cave also. www.google.com/search?q=allegory+of+the+cave&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS806US806&oq=allegory+of+the+cave&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3599j1j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8Sadly, you may never know the splendor of life outside the cave, in the Light. I can't help you friend. Only you can help yourself. Haha...take your own advice pal and we’ll both be better off. The guy who has yet to admit fault and preaches to others to take the high road by not responding continues to respond. Tell ya what, I’ll take the high road that you won’t by putting you on ignore that way you can talk all the stuff you want to about me and I won’t even defend myself. In most cases, I do give second chances but it’s clearly not worth it in your case. Enjoy the rest of your life, go Giants and practice what you preach. |
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Post by goldenratio on Jul 28, 2018 15:34:39 GMT -5
Haha...take your own advice pal and we’ll both be better off. The guy who has yet to admit fault and preaches to others to take the high road by not responding continues to respond. Tell ya what, I’ll take the high road that you won’t by putting you on ignore that way you can talk all the stuff you want to about me and I won’t even defend myself. In most cases, I do give second chances but it’s clearly not worth it in your case. Enjoy the rest of your life, go Giants and practice what you preach. I knew you would NEED to have the last word. Congratulations, you won the internet and lost a potential friend. |
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jul 28, 2018 16:06:43 GMT -5
can he throw the ball?
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As I’ve stated, sure there are comments I have made that can rub people the wrong way and I also understand the truth hurts sometimes. I rarely address the strengths because that’s not my personality, yes, I’m largely pessimistic and negative but I also feel our strengths are set so there’s no need in discussing them as much.