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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 6:04:39 GMT -5
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Jul 29, 2019 6:09:10 GMT -5
What a scumbag.
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Post by TEM on Jul 29, 2019 6:10:38 GMT -5
And Slow wonders why he is no longer on the team.
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Post by scoostraw on Jul 29, 2019 7:15:01 GMT -5
By FRANK LITSKY and SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMESNOV. 25, 1989:
"Today, in a telephone conference call from the 49ers' base in Santa Clara, Calif., Jim Burt ripped into Parcells. He left no doubt that he thought Parcells had forced him into leaving the Giants, and he even said he hoped the Giants would run a sweep toward their sideline.
''Then I'll be looking for a curly-haired gray guy or a fat guy with the headphones on,'' he said. ''I'm going to barrel them over.''
The one with the curly gray hair is Lamar Leachman, the defensive line coach throughout Burt's career with the Giants. The other one is Parcells."
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Post by bizcliz on Jul 29, 2019 7:17:55 GMT -5
Look, I get being upset that the team that drafted you didn't resign you or traded you....but the level of pettiness being demonstrated by LC and OBJ is getting to be bananas. Just shut up and play ball. WHy is that so hard?
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Post by GameTime on Jul 29, 2019 7:17:58 GMT -5
I am actually surprised he is saying things like this judging from how he was when he was a NYG player. He was mouthy but not like this.
He has stepped over the line and sounds like a total tool bag.
If I was his coach I would question where his priorities are at. Do you want to be a Redskin or do want to just be a vengeful ex-Giant.
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Post by GameTime on Jul 29, 2019 7:18:55 GMT -5
Look, I get being upset that the team that drafted you didn't resign you or traded you....but the level of pettiness being demonstrated by LC and OBJ is getting to be bananas. Just shut up and play ball. WHy is that so hard? because they are both playing the poor little victim card... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 7:34:05 GMT -5
I am actually surprised he is saying things like this judging from how he was when he was a NYG player. He was mouthy but not like this. He has stepped over the line and sounds like a total tool bag. If I was his coach I would question where his priorities are at. Do you want to be a Redskin or do want to just be a vengeful ex-Giant. He has actually been extremely stupid since day one. Just never got major press. Good football player. Not a smart person though. Collins has been saying stupid crap for years. |
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Post by scoostraw on Jul 29, 2019 7:51:29 GMT -5
I am actually surprised he is saying things like this judging from how he was when he was a NYG player. He was mouthy but not like this. He has stepped over the line and sounds like a total tool bag. If I was his coach I would question where his priorities are at. Do you want to be a Redskin or do want to just be a vengeful ex-Giant. He has actually been extremely stupid since day one. Just never got major press. Good football player. Not a smart person though. Collins has been saying stupid crap for years. ^ This ^ |
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Post by Delicreep on Jul 29, 2019 7:59:33 GMT -5
Clearly a joke.
Probably should hire a writer next time, but that's another thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 8:06:09 GMT -5
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Post by giantlegacy on Jul 29, 2019 8:11:29 GMT -5
I am actually surprised he is saying things like this judging from how he was when he was a NYG player. He was mouthy but not like this. He has stepped over the line and sounds like a total tool bag. If I was his coach I would question where his priorities are at. Do you want to be a Redskin or do want to just be a vengeful ex-Giant. He has actually been extremely stupid since day one. Just never got major press. Good football player. Not a smart person though. Collins has been saying stupid crap for years. Its becoming obvious who was one of the major issues with out secondary and the locker room collapse in 2017. |
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 29, 2019 8:27:34 GMT -5
Are we surprised by this? DeAngelo Williams, Josh Norman and Steve Smith Sr all had their issues with Gettleman and spoke loud about it to social media. When Gettleman got fired all 3 basically kicked sand in his face as he was out the door. Point is Gettleman is not a very likable guy when it comes to the business of being a general manager. Now we have Beckham and Collins not being able to deal with it professionally. Put a microphone in front of a young pro athlete more likely you will get a head scratcher comment.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 29, 2019 8:28:11 GMT -5
hopefully he can get by this an improve his coverage skills tight end and running backs aren't in there 60s lol, when DG said we want mature adults he must of knew something about this childish fool, to tell you the truth when they talk to teammates now at Giants training camp they gush about Peppers never heard much of that about Collins. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 29, 2019 8:31:27 GMT -5
Look, I get being upset that the team that drafted you didn't resign you or traded you....but the level of pettiness being demonstrated by LC and OBJ is getting to be bananas. Just shut up and play ball. WHy is that so hard? Millennials |
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Post by Providence on Jul 29, 2019 8:36:23 GMT -5
By FRANK LITSKY and SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMESNOV. 25, 1989:
"Today, in a telephone conference call from the 49ers' base in Santa Clara, Calif., Jim Burt ripped into Parcells. He left no doubt that he thought Parcells had forced him into leaving the Giants, and he even said he hoped the Giants would run a sweep toward their sideline.
''Then I'll be looking for a curly-haired gray guy or a fat guy with the headphones on,'' he said. ''I'm going to barrel them over.''
The one with the curly gray hair is Lamar Leachman, the defensive line coach throughout Burt's career with the Giants. The other one is Parcells."
Thank you for posting this. Watch the copious amounts of hate thrown at Collins by Giants fans based on his recent comments. Then think about what the reactions to Burt's comments are today, and likely were when he said them. I wonder why there is such a difference in vitriol? Oh wait, I know the answer.... |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Jul 29, 2019 8:36:51 GMT -5
Hmmmm, me thinks he was just as much of a cancer in the locker room as the guy he said was...Eli Apple.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 29, 2019 8:41:38 GMT -5
Are we surprised by this? DeAngelo Williams, Josh Norman and Steve Smith Sr all had their issues with Gettleman and spoke loud about it to social media. When Gettleman got fired all 3 basically kicked sand in his face as he was out the door. Point is Gettleman is not a very likable guy when it comes to the business of being a general manager. Now we have Beckham and Collins not being able to deal with it professionally. Put a microphone in front of a young pro athlete more likely you will get a head scratcher comment. Not defending Gettlemen but when he took the job in Carolina he had no attachment to these player and were 17 mill over the cap he cut the older guys making the most, same here this team was about to go into cap hell he traded everyone he could didn't overpay Collins and at least got something in return for OBJ might be just how the old man rolls, I'm 58 there was no such thing as being nice while I was coming up in construction lol, my son had a couple friends who made to NFL camps and one that has managed to stay in the league as a teams guy these kids had there butts kissed from pop warner on through high school and some even in college it only ended in the NFL because they weren't OBJ or LC type talents, I told my boy these coaches and teachers were doing these kids a disservice by not holding them accountable to the same standards they held every other player or student. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 29, 2019 8:51:40 GMT -5
By FRANK LITSKY and SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMESNOV. 25, 1989:
"Today, in a telephone conference call from the 49ers' base in Santa Clara, Calif., Jim Burt ripped into Parcells. He left no doubt that he thought Parcells had forced him into leaving the Giants, and he even said he hoped the Giants would run a sweep toward their sideline.
''Then I'll be looking for a curly-haired gray guy or a fat guy with the headphones on,'' he said. ''I'm going to barrel them over.''
The one with the curly gray hair is Lamar Leachman, the defensive line coach throughout Burt's career with the Giants. The other one is Parcells."
Thank you for posting this. Watch the copious amounts of hate thrown at Collins by Giants fans based on his recent comments. Then think about what the reactions to Burt's comments are today, and likely were when he said them. I wonder why there is such a difference in vitriol? Oh wait, I know the answer.... Burt proved he wasn't kidding go low on hosteler in the playoff game more then once in todays game he would have been penalized it was so blatant. |
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 29, 2019 8:52:28 GMT -5
Are we surprised by this? DeAngelo Williams, Josh Norman and Steve Smith Sr all had their issues with Gettleman and spoke loud about it to social media. When Gettleman got fired all 3 basically kicked sand in his face as he was out the door. Point is Gettleman is not a very likable guy when it comes to the business of being a general manager. Now we have Beckham and Collins not being able to deal with it professionally. Put a microphone in front of a young pro athlete more likely you will get a head scratcher comment. Not defending Gettlemen but when he took the job in Carolina he had no attachment to these player and were 17 mill over the cap he cut the older guys making the most, same here this team was about to go into cap hell he traded everyone he could didn't overpay Collins and at least got something in return for OBJ might be just how the old man rolls, I'm 58 there was no such thing as being nice while I was coming up in construction lol, my son had a couple friends who made to NFL camps and one that has managed to stay in the league as a teams guy these kids had there butts kissed from pop warner on through high school and some even in college it only ended in the NFL because they weren't OBJ or LC type talents, I told my boy these coaches and teachers were doing these kids a disservice by not holding them accountable to the same standards they held every other player or student. It’s not releasing and trading players that rub guys the wrong way, it’s how he did it. Steve Smith Sr is beloved in Carolina, probably one of the toughest receivers of his era. And he found out he was getting released through social media. I get it, being a GM you have to make the tough decisions on players livelihoods. But it comes to common sense on how you handle it. There’s a reason Gettleman never got a GM position until 26 years in the business. And had a winning record in Carolina and they gave him the boot. I believe he’s an old school guy who can’t adapt to what the league is now when it comes to communication skills with his players. Also which is not being talked about, he basically made two players despise the franchise, one is in the division. Former players want to play their best against their former team, well now you just put a bigger bulls eye on the Giants back. Also I know all about construction, I’m a 638 Steamfitter.. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Jul 29, 2019 8:54:51 GMT -5
By FRANK LITSKY and SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMESNOV. 25, 1989:
"Today, in a telephone conference call from the 49ers' base in Santa Clara, Calif., Jim Burt ripped into Parcells. He left no doubt that he thought Parcells had forced him into leaving the Giants, and he even said he hoped the Giants would run a sweep toward their sideline.
''Then I'll be looking for a curly-haired gray guy or a fat guy with the headphones on,'' he said. ''I'm going to barrel them over.''
The one with the curly gray hair is Lamar Leachman, the defensive line coach throughout Burt's career with the Giants. The other one is Parcells."
Thank you for posting this. Watch the copious amounts of hate thrown at Collins by Giants fans based on his recent comments. Then think about what the reactions to Burt's comments are today, and likely were when he said them. I wonder why there is such a difference in vitriol? Oh wait, I know the answer.... The answer is simple, there was no social media back then, so statements like that from Jim Burt didn't get the focus that they do nowadays. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 29, 2019 8:59:11 GMT -5
All I can say is wonder why this locker room was a mess ,who knows maybe if LC took a different approach with Apple when he was going through all those personal issues maybe it turns out better, still glad both are gone and OBJ too, because he was never gonna be happy here and he would just keep doing stupid stuff the GQ interview said all you need to know in his twisted head he is bigger then the game the team, this team had 0 mature young leadership, maybe OBJ will get down to business and grow some now, don't know about Collins tho he seems like a crybaby lol.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 29, 2019 9:04:25 GMT -5
Not defending Gettlemen but when he took the job in Carolina he had no attachment to these player and were 17 mill over the cap he cut the older guys making the most, same here this team was about to go into cap hell he traded everyone he could didn't overpay Collins and at least got something in return for OBJ might be just how the old man rolls, I'm 58 there was no such thing as being nice while I was coming up in construction lol, my son had a couple friends who made to NFL camps and one that has managed to stay in the league as a teams guy these kids had there butts kissed from pop warner on through high school and some even in college it only ended in the NFL because they weren't OBJ or LC type talents, I told my boy these coaches and teachers were doing these kids a disservice by not holding them accountable to the same standards they held every other player or student. It’s not releasing and trading players that rub guys the wrong way, it’s how he did it. Steve Smith Sr is beloved in Carolina, probably one of the toughest receivers of his era. And he found out he was getting released through social media. I get it, being a GM you have to make the tough decisions on players livelihoods. But it comes to common sense on how you handle it. There’s a reason Gettleman never got a GM position until 26 years in the business. And had a winning record in Carolina and they gave him the boot. I believe he’s an old school guy who can’t adapt to what the league is now when it comes to communication skills with his players. Also which is not being talked about, he basically made two players despise the franchise, one is in the division. Former players want to play their best against their former team, well now you just put a bigger bulls eye on the Giants back. Also I know all about construction, I’m a 638 Steamfitter.. I know exactly why but he had no attachment to them he was there to do a job and he got them on track, I don't care if they hate us till the cows come home both moves were correct especially now that the true colors of how childish these guys are and selfish, that said you still working I'm retired Mason spent some time in the union but went on my own after a while. |
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Post by bluejayc on Jul 29, 2019 9:14:27 GMT -5
Not defending Gettlemen but when he took the job in Carolina he had no attachment to these player and were 17 mill over the cap he cut the older guys making the most, same here this team was about to go into cap hell he traded everyone he could didn't overpay Collins and at least got something in return for OBJ might be just how the old man rolls, I'm 58 there was no such thing as being nice while I was coming up in construction lol, my son had a couple friends who made to NFL camps and one that has managed to stay in the league as a teams guy these kids had there butts kissed from pop warner on through high school and some even in college it only ended in the NFL because they weren't OBJ or LC type talents, I told my boy these coaches and teachers were doing these kids a disservice by not holding them accountable to the same standards they held every other player or student. It’s not releasing and trading players that rub guys the wrong way, it’s how he did it. Steve Smith Sr is beloved in Carolina, probably one of the toughest receivers of his era. And he found out he was getting released through social media. I get it, being a GM you have to make the tough decisions on players livelihoods. But it comes to common sense on how you handle it. There’s a reason Gettleman never got a GM position until 26 years in the business. And had a winning record in Carolina and they gave him the boot. I believe he’s an old school guy who can’t adapt to what the league is now when it comes to communication skills with his players. Also which is not being talked about, he basically made two players despise the franchise, one is in the division. Former players want to play their best against their former team, well now you just put a bigger bulls eye on the Giants back. Also I know all about construction, I’m a 638 Steamfitter.. I agree with what you're saying but I also think in this day and age with this league that old school mentality is what you really need otherwise you get into situations where players (i.e. - Leveon Bell) essentially hold teams hostage. Gettleman doesn't give a s*** who you are and will ship anyone out if they're not with the program (see the departed Diva for reference). I love it. This is a business and unfortunately in this business nowadays lifers are a rarity due to the CBA and free agency. I like the no nonsense approach. I understand that vets don't but I also really don't care if it's for the betterment of the team. Collins is the unhappiest $85 million dollar man I've ever seen. Not sure why he's so upset.....can you imagine what shape this team would be in if they forked over that kind of dough to him?!?!?!? |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 29, 2019 9:16:14 GMT -5
Are we surprised by this? DeAngelo Williams, Josh Norman and Steve Smith Sr all had their issues with Gettleman and spoke loud about it to social media. When Gettleman got fired all 3 basically kicked sand in his face as he was out the door. Point is Gettleman is not a very likable guy when it comes to the business of being a general manager. Now we have Beckham and Collins not being able to deal with it professionally. Put a microphone in front of a young pro athlete more likely you will get a head scratcher comment. Also he and Shurmur called OBJ don't think he was as hurt as he lead on he was out of the country to busy to call Shurmur back, we have had several players go to the skins or in the division that were better then either of these two, they won Bavaro /Banks/ to name a couple but they were grown men went and played ball, I don't think this guys communication skills are great but there is a solid message now to all we will be a pro outfit no more off book interviews or dragging teammates through the mud in the media he's gruff I'll take it over rudderless and leaderless, now if he fails I'll be the first to fry him I liked Reese for the first 4 years too but once it was clear that the only draft he had in those 4 years that was really good was the first I started to change my mind by the end of year 5 I could see the end coming for this franchise. |
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Post by roundabout on Jul 29, 2019 9:16:40 GMT -5
By FRANK LITSKY and SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMESNOV. 25, 1989:
"Today, in a telephone conference call from the 49ers' base in Santa Clara, Calif., Jim Burt ripped into Parcells. He left no doubt that he thought Parcells had forced him into leaving the Giants, and he even said he hoped the Giants would run a sweep toward their sideline.
''Then I'll be looking for a curly-haired gray guy or a fat guy with the headphones on,'' he said. ''I'm going to barrel them over.''
The one with the curly gray hair is Lamar Leachman, the defensive line coach throughout Burt's career with the Giants. The other one is Parcells."
Thank you for posting this. Watch the copious amounts of hate thrown at Collins by Giants fans based on his recent comments. Then think about what the reactions to Burt's comments are today, and likely were when he said them. I wonder why there is such a difference in vitriol? Oh wait, I know the answer.... If you know the answer why don’t you tell us? I think Jim Burt And Landon Collins are both seriously wrong to want to go after someone that’s 40 years their senior |
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 29, 2019 9:16:56 GMT -5
It’s not releasing and trading players that rub guys the wrong way, it’s how he did it. Steve Smith Sr is beloved in Carolina, probably one of the toughest receivers of his era. And he found out he was getting released through social media. I get it, being a GM you have to make the tough decisions on players livelihoods. But it comes to common sense on how you handle it. There’s a reason Gettleman never got a GM position until 26 years in the business. And had a winning record in Carolina and they gave him the boot. I believe he’s an old school guy who can’t adapt to what the league is now when it comes to communication skills with his players. Also which is not being talked about, he basically made two players despise the franchise, one is in the division. Former players want to play their best against their former team, well now you just put a bigger bulls eye on the Giants back. Also I know all about construction, I’m a 638 Steamfitter.. I know exactly why but he had no attachment to them he was there to do a job and he got them on track, I don't care if they hate us till the cows come home both moves were correct especially now that the true colors of how childish these guys are and selfish, that said you still working I'm retired Mason spent some time in the union but went on my own after a while. Sounds like you’re defending Dave now.. I get your points though. Yeah still working, I love what I do 💯 UNION! Mason work is tough work. I know a bunch of guys who work in that business, tough men. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 29, 2019 9:18:29 GMT -5
It’s not releasing and trading players that rub guys the wrong way, it’s how he did it. Steve Smith Sr is beloved in Carolina, probably one of the toughest receivers of his era. And he found out he was getting released through social media. I get it, being a GM you have to make the tough decisions on players livelihoods. But it comes to common sense on how you handle it. There’s a reason Gettleman never got a GM position until 26 years in the business. And had a winning record in Carolina and they gave him the boot. I believe he’s an old school guy who can’t adapt to what the league is now when it comes to communication skills with his players. Also which is not being talked about, he basically made two players despise the franchise, one is in the division. Former players want to play their best against their former team, well now you just put a bigger bulls eye on the Giants back. Also I know all about construction, I’m a 638 Steamfitter.. I agree with what you're saying but I also think in this day and age with this league that old school mentality is what you really need otherwise you get into situations where players (i.e. - Leveon Bell) essentially hold teams hostage. Gettleman doesn't give a s*** who you are and will ship anyone out if they're not with the program (see the departed Diva for reference). I love it. This is a business and unfortunately in this business nowadays lifers are a rarity due to the CBA and free agency. I like the no nonsense approach. I understand that vets don't but I also really don't care if it's for the betterment of the team. Collins is the unhappiest $85 million dollar man I've ever seen. Not sure why he's so upset.....can you imagine what shape this team would be in if they forked over that kind of dough to him?!?!?!? he would be getting roasted eery missed tackle every reception he needs to be an all pro every year at that number to justify it. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 29, 2019 9:24:37 GMT -5
I know exactly why but he had no attachment to them he was there to do a job and he got them on track, I don't care if they hate us till the cows come home both moves were correct especially now that the true colors of how childish these guys are and selfish, that said you still working I'm retired Mason spent some time in the union but went on my own after a while. Sounds like you’re defending Dave now.. I get your points though. Yeah still working, I love what I do 💯 UNION! Mason work is tough work. I know a bunch of guys who work in that business, tough men. AT the end of year 4 if this team doesn't look like an up and coming team he will get it lol, it's all tough work bro today it's a little different my brother runs commercial work he can't stand the young guys lol he says all they do is wait on there breaks and have 0 goals as far as productivity goes, in the masons if you couldn't meet tho quota you might as well sell insurance or something lol, I used to go to work with goal of what was gonna get done come hell or high water, maybe skip a few breaks or lunch to get it. |
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Post by DandyDon on Jul 29, 2019 9:24:44 GMT -5
It’s not releasing and trading players that rub guys the wrong way, it’s how he did it. Steve Smith Sr is beloved in Carolina, probably one of the toughest receivers of his era. And he found out he was getting released through social media. I get it, being a GM you have to make the tough decisions on players livelihoods. But it comes to common sense on how you handle it. There’s a reason Gettleman never got a GM position until 26 years in the business. And had a winning record in Carolina and they gave him the boot. I believe he’s an old school guy who can’t adapt to what the league is now when it comes to communication skills with his players. Also which is not being talked about, he basically made two players despise the franchise, one is in the division. Former players want to play their best against their former team, well now you just put a bigger bulls eye on the Giants back. Also I know all about construction, I’m a 638 Steamfitter.. I agree with what you're saying but I also think in this day and age with this league that old school mentality is what you really need otherwise you get into situations where players (i.e. - Leveon Bell) essentially hold teams hostage. Gettleman doesn't give a s*** who you are and will ship anyone out if they're not with the program (see the departed Diva for reference). I love it. This is a business and unfortunately in this business nowadays lifers are a rarity due to the CBA and free agency. I like the no nonsense approach. I understand that vets don't but I also really don't care if it's for the betterment of the team. Collins is the unhappiest $85 million dollar man I've ever seen. Not sure why he's so upset.....can you imagine what shape this team would be in if they forked over that kind of dough to him?!?!?!? Me too. It still remains to be seen how successful DG will be, but at least he has balls and doesnt suffer divas. |
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