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Post by Merlin on Aug 13, 2019 6:26:24 GMT -5
Jones could have took off running on the left side of the field, if he didn't want to put NFL scouts on notice with his arm . He has that ability as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 6:39:39 GMT -5
It looks as though he choose the toughest option. Is that a problem missing the correct read?
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Post by TEM on Aug 13, 2019 6:43:25 GMT -5
Jones could have took off running on the left side of the field, if he didn't want to put NFL scouts on notice with his arm . He has that ability as well. If you look at the snipet you put up there he all so could have "dumped it off to the open back in the middle of the field or even to the wide open receiver split out on the top left If he went through his reads. It would have been the proper choice. He did not . He had the time to do so. He was looking that way the whole time. It shows his inexperience. A good Safety would have read his eyes.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 13, 2019 6:45:48 GMT -5
OMG he's a bust.
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Post by bluebuddha on Aug 13, 2019 6:46:05 GMT -5
It looks as though he choose the toughest option. Is that a problem missing the correct read? I think he just went with his first read. He never looked anywhere else. The kid made it work so he is effective and trusts his arm. I am guessing the second game will have more work with progressions and he will see some different defensive looks than he is used to.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 6:50:56 GMT -5
It looks as though he choose the toughest option. Is that a problem missing the correct read? I think he just went with his first read. He never looked anywhere else. The kid made it work so he is effective and trusts his arm. I am guessing the second game will have more work with progressions and he will see some different defensive looks than he is used to. I like this idea about the play and the fact he made it work was impressive. Lets see how he grows with his decision making these next few games.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 6:51:12 GMT -5
lol....you guys a such a trip. The DB's eyes were on the receiver the entire time. Never once looked back at the QB. Jones read it perfectly, threaded the needle and got a TD.
What is that smell in the air.......desperation?
Can you imagine the mafia's reaction if Harooni or MS....or anyone else questioned an Eli TD?
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Post by Roswell on Aug 13, 2019 6:51:28 GMT -5
I like how the 2 guards and center are like a wall. No inside pressure at all. It is 3 on 2 but all too often we’ve seen problems there.
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Post by moecoastie on Aug 13, 2019 6:53:21 GMT -5
If you look at the snipet you put up there he all so could have "dumped it off to the open back in the middle of the field or even to the wide open receiver split out on the top left If he went through his reads. It would have been the proper choice. He did not . He had the time to do so. He was looking that way the whole time. It shows his inexperience. A good Safety would have read his eyes. Incorrect...I discussed this in the comment section of a few youtube videos: This is a high/low concept with the key read being the corner on the bottom of the screen. If the corner bails to the endzone, he throws to the TE. If the corner stays on the TE like he did, he throws to the WR. Its the WRs responsibility to beat the strong safety to the pile-on. All DJ had to make sure of is that the strong safety was in trailing position. Corner on the top of the screen is playing press, that's why he only looks to the right side. This is a very simple play that is the perfect call vs cover 2 or tampa 2.
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Post by TEM on Aug 13, 2019 7:02:37 GMT -5
If he went through his reads. It would have been the proper choice. He did not . He had the time to do so. He was looking that way the whole time. It shows his inexperience. A good Safety would have read his eyes. Incorrect...I discussed this in the comment section of a few youtube videos: This is a high/low concept with the key read being the corner on the bottom of the screen. If the corner bails to the endzone, he throws to the TE. If the corner stays on the TE like he did, he throws to the WR. Its the WRs responsibility to beat the strong safety to the pile-on. All DJ had to make sure of is that the strong safety was in trailing positing. Corner on the top of the screen is playing press, that's why he only looks to the right side. This is a very simple play that is the perfect call vs cover 2 or tampa 2. It was a great pass. At the same time. If he keeps telegraphing passes . It will be exploited and he is going to get into trouble. The NFL had proven that. Why you go through reads in the NFL. It is not the NCAA anymore.
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Post by moecoastie on Aug 13, 2019 7:04:27 GMT -5
Incorrect...I discussed this in the comment section of a few youtube videos: This is a high/low concept with the key read being the corner on the bottom of the screen. If the corner bails to the endzone, he throws to the TE. If the corner stays on the TE like he did, he throws to the WR. Its the WRs responsibility to beat the strong safety to the pile-on. All DJ had to make sure of is that the strong safety was in trailing positing. Corner on the top of the screen is playing press, that's why he only looks to the right side. This is a very simple play that is the perfect call vs cover 2 or tampa 2. It was a great pass. At the same time. If he keeps telegraphing passes . It will be exploited and he is going to get into trouble. The NFL had proven that. Why you go through reads in the NFL. It is not the NCAA anymore. he executed the play exactly the way they teach it. He was reading the corner What the corner did determined where he goes with the ball EDIT: if the corner bailed to the endzone to a cover 3 or 4 and the DE/LB drops to the flat, the RB in the middle is the outlet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 7:07:26 GMT -5
It was a great pass. At the same time. If he keeps telegraphing passes . It will be exploited and he is going to get into trouble. The NFL had proven that. Why you go through reads in the NFL. It is not the NCAA anymore. he executed the play exactly the way they teach it. He was reading the corner What the corner did determined where he goes with the ball Nah.....he should have checked down and gotten us in field goal range like his predecessor.
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Post by TEM on Aug 13, 2019 7:07:36 GMT -5
It was a great pass. At the same time. If he keeps telegraphing passes . It will be exploited and he is going to get into trouble. The NFL had proven that. Why you go through reads in the NFL. It is not the NCAA anymore. he executed the play exactly the way they teach it. He was reading the corner What the corner did determined where he goes with the ball I will say it again . The NLl is not a one read league for a QB as the NCAA is.
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 13, 2019 7:07:37 GMT -5
LMAO I like when people pretend to know which reads and progression the QB should use and also pretend to know where his eyes are looking or what he see's. This is fun.
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Post by moecoastie on Aug 13, 2019 7:07:43 GMT -5
he executed the play exactly the way they teach it. He was reading the corner What the corner did determined where he goes with the ball Nah.....he should have checked down and gotten us in field goal range like his predecessor. LOLs
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Post by moecoastie on Aug 13, 2019 7:08:30 GMT -5
he executed the play exactly the way they teach it. He was reading the corner What the corner did determined where he goes with the ball I will say it again . The NLl is not a one read league for a QB as the NCAA is. This is vanilla....you know, preseason games typically are. This is a play they run in the regular season too. This play is a cover 2 beater
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Post by GameTime on Aug 13, 2019 7:08:32 GMT -5
If you look at the snipet you put up there he all so could have "dumped it off to the open back in the middle of the field or even to the wide open receiver split out on the top left If he went through his reads. It would have been the proper choice. He did not . He had the time to do so. He was looking that way the whole time. It shows his inexperience. A good Safety would have read his eyes. plays like this are made all the time in the NFL. A QB doesnt have to go through all his reads if he sees a match up he likes. I get that was looking the whole way too. He made the choice, threw a great pass, and Fowler made a great catch. All in all....a very nice TD pass and catch.
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 13, 2019 7:09:20 GMT -5
he executed the play exactly the way they teach it. He was reading the corner What the corner did determined where he goes with the ball Nah.....he should have checked down and gotten us in field goal range like his predecessor. It is the modern world. He didn't even look at the other kids on the field. That's not fair, they might feel bad about themselves. I think everyone should get credit for a TD on that play. It's only fair.
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Post by TEM on Aug 13, 2019 7:10:07 GMT -5
he executed the play exactly the way they teach it. He was reading the corner What the corner did determined where he goes with the ball Nah.....he should have checked down and gotten us in field goal range like his predecessor. If you wat to have a discussion. That is cool. If you want to bait. I am not your guy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 7:10:53 GMT -5
Pew......desperation smells a lot like BO
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Post by GameTime on Aug 13, 2019 7:11:15 GMT -5
he executed the play exactly the way they teach it. He was reading the corner What the corner did determined where he goes with the ball Nah.....he should have checked down and gotten us in field goal range like his predecessor. dont be silly...it was 1st and 10. The check down would have further tighten the active area to make a play. Then a handoff for -2 yards, a missed pass in the back of the end zone then a FG attempt.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 7:11:41 GMT -5
Nah.....he should have checked down and gotten us in field goal range like his predecessor. If you wat to have a discussion. That is cool. If you want to bait. I am not your guy. Sorry, Didn't realize you were the only other person commenting.
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Post by moecoastie on Aug 13, 2019 7:12:14 GMT -5
I dont even like this youtuber but he explains the play way better than I could....
Play starts at around 3:15 mark
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 7:13:23 GMT -5
Nah.....he should have checked down and gotten us in field goal range like his predecessor. dont be silly...it was 1st and 10. The check down would have further tighten the active area to make a play. Then a handoff for -2 yards, a missed pass in the back of the end zone then a FG attempt.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 7:14:15 GMT -5
If he went through his reads. It would have been the proper choice. He did not . He had the time to do so. He was looking that way the whole time. It shows his inexperience. A good Safety would have read his eyes. Shurmur was saying that on one play he never set the TE in motion which screwed up the protection . These are all little things but things he still needs to work on .I think the kid is the real thing .....DG did well. Yes.....on the very first play of his NFL career.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 13, 2019 7:15:21 GMT -5
If he went through his reads. It would have been the proper choice. He did not . He had the time to do so. He was looking that way the whole time. It shows his inexperience. A good Safety would have read his eyes. Shurmur was saying that on one play he never set the TE in motion which screwed up the protection . These are all little things but things he still needs to work on .I think the kid is the real thing .....DG did well. DJ mentioned this too in his interviews. He said he made Gallamn's job harder on that play but that Gallman picked it up and bailed him out...lol
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 13, 2019 7:16:28 GMT -5
I think we should definitely continue to analyze every single move DJ makes with intense scrutiny. Because it's not insane or anything.
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Post by moecoastie on Aug 13, 2019 7:18:24 GMT -5
I think we should definitely continue to analyze every single move DJ makes with intense scrutiny. Because it's not insane or anything. people better find a different play because he executed this play perfectly
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 7:18:40 GMT -5
I think we should definitely continue to analyze every single move DJ makes with intense scrutiny. Because it's not insane or anything. This thread will be 9 pages....minimum.
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 13, 2019 7:19:06 GMT -5
I think we should definitely continue to analyze every single move DJ makes with intense scrutiny. Because it's not insane or anything. Do you expect anything else? We've done that to Eli for 15 years now.
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