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Post by Roosevelt on Aug 22, 2019 8:45:45 GMT -5
Everything you need to know heading into Preseason Week 3:
1. On the road again. After playing their first two preseason games at home, the Giants take their first road trip of 2019 this week. They will look to improve to 3-0 on Thursday night against the Bengals at Paul Brown Stadium. After that, they travel to Foxborough to wrap things up against the defending Super Bowl champion Patriots.
2. Playing time will “reveal itself.” The third preseason game is typically when coaches play their starters the longest before resting them in the fourth. So you can expect to see plenty of Eli Manning and the first-team offense as the defense also looks to build momentum heading into the regular season, which starts in two weeks. Meanwhile, healthy players like Saquon Barkley and tight end Evan Engram have been healthy scratches. Coach Pat Shurmur said he will “let it reveal itself” as to whether they play on Thursday night.
“People are starting to divert their opinions as to the importance of playing your players in the preseason games,” Shurmur said. “I’ve already heard people talking to me about the third preseason game and it’s your dress rehearsal, that’s kind of like your halftime adjustments. I think you are getting ready to play every practice and every game. As a coach, you have to weigh the importance of the work you are doing and how much work each guy gets.”
3. Injury report. The following players did not play against the Bears last week due to injuries: RB Wayne Gallman (foot), CB Sam Beal (hamstring), CB DeAndre Baker (knee), LB Alec Ogletree (calf), OT Brian Mihalik (burner), OT George Asafo-Adjei (concussion), WR Darius Slayton (hamstring), WR Sterling Shepard (thumb), and LS Zak DeOssie (toe).
In practice this week, Shepard shed the yellow “don’t hit him” pinny, which was another step in the right direction toward Week 1 in Dallas. Shepard, who thought the healing process would take longer, said he doesn’t see anything holding him back for Week 1. However, the thumb is still not ready for a preseason game. Slayton, meanwhile, is getting “really, really close” to playing in his first game after a hamstring set him back following a strong spring.
4. Quarterbacks dominating preseason. It’s only the preseason, but Shurmur and offensive coordinator Mike Shula have to be pleased with what they’re seeing from top to bottom in the quarterbacks room. With all four quarterbacks playing, they were 29 of 37 for 374 yards and three touchdowns with a 136.0 passer rating in the opener against the Jets. Last week, they were 21 of 30 for 250 yards, three touchdowns and an interception for a passer rating of 117.4. 5. Eli looks to stay perfect. Granted he has thrown only five passes, Manning has yet to have a ball hit the ground in the preseason. Four of those completions came on a single drive last week, which ended with a touchdown pass to wide receiver Bennie Fowler. It followed up a quick three-and-out on his lone drive in the opener. 6. DJ leads NFL in YPA and passer rating. Daniel Jones, the sixth overall pick, is averaging 12.0 yards per throw with a passer rating of 151.8. Both marks are the best in the NFL among quarterbacks with more than six pass attempts this preseason. The rookie did face some adversity last week after losing two fumbles.
“That’s just part of the growing, but he didn’t panic,” Shurmur said after the game. “He dropped the ball a couple times, but he didn’t call his parents. He just went back to work and did a good job at getting us in the end zone.”
7. Pass rush gets going. The Giants had three sacks last week, which were three more than they had in the preseason opener against the Jets. A point of emphasis this offseason, it was encouraging for the Giants to see all the sacks come from newcomers. Markus Golden and Olsen Pierre, two veterans with prior experience playing for defensive coordinator James Bettcher in Arizona, both got to the quarterback. So did rookie Oshane Ximines, an intriguing third-round draft pick out of Old Dominion.
8. Life behind Saquon Barkley. While the 2018 Offensive Rookie of the Year sat the first two weeks, the depth of the run game has been put to the test. The results were varied. Against the Jets, they ran the ball 18 times for 40 yards, including a lost fumble by Paul Perkins. The next week, Rod Smith, who got the start, set the tone from the first drive as the team racked up 161 yards on 35 carries. That included a touchdown from Jonathan Hilliman, an undrafted rookie from Rutgers who finished with a team-high 16 attempts for 56 yards.
9. Don’t overlook the return game. The return specialists have stepped up after Corey Coleman went down early in camp with a torn ACL. Last week, TJ Jones had a 43-yard kickoff return while Brittan Golden had a long punt return of 20 yards. The week before, rookie cornerback Corey Ballentine, a former track star in college, had a 40-yard kickoff return.
10. Roster decisions come up quick. After Thursday’s game, there are just nine days until the 53-man roster must be set at 4 p.m. on Saturday, Aug. 31. In between, there are a few remaining practices of camp and a the preseason finale vs. New England. And that’s it. Then it’s all systems go for Sept. 9 in Dallas.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 22, 2019 9:00:13 GMT -5
Going to have to record the replay of this one. Re-Airs Friday 11am in NFL network.
Hopefully they move the chains early, stop them on defnese early, and come out healthy.
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Post by shocknaweny on Aug 22, 2019 9:08:54 GMT -5
may have to just watch this one
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Post by dannydimes8 on Aug 22, 2019 9:21:01 GMT -5
I’m hoping they split Eli and jones with the 1st team. Eli 1st qtr, Jones 2nd qtr. then let Jones play a series or 2 in the 3rd qtr with the 2nd string.
Hoping to see a pass rush v a mediocre Bengals Oline featuring Bobby hart.
Other than that, no injuries! No injuries! No injuries!
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 22, 2019 9:31:27 GMT -5
I’m hoping they split Eli and jones with the 1st team. Eli 1st qtr, Jones 2nd qtr. then let Jones play a series or 2 in the 3rd qtr with the 2nd string. Hoping to see a pass rush v a mediocre Bengals Oline featuring Bobby hart. Other than that, no injuries! No injuries! No injuries! Eli is the starter. I think we see him late into the 1st half, if not the entire 1dt half. DJ in the 3rd-4th. Lauletta and Tanney a drive a piece in the 4th. Something like that.
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Post by Bigjeep on Aug 22, 2019 9:39:35 GMT -5
I predict another win!
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 22, 2019 9:50:06 GMT -5
Are the Bengals going to have their starters playing tonight? Dalton? RB? AJ Green? Defnesive?
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Post by shocknaweny on Aug 22, 2019 9:57:31 GMT -5
Are the Bengals going to have their starters playing tonight? Dalton? RB? AJ Green? Defnesive? Green is out for the next six weeks
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2019 10:00:54 GMT -5
Are the Bengals going to have their starters playing tonight? Dalton? RB? AJ Green? Defnesive? Rookie coach ,I would think so They have a good D line..
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 22, 2019 10:06:40 GMT -5
Are the Bengals going to have their starters playing tonight? Dalton? RB? AJ Green? Defnesive? Green is out for the next six weeks Ah forgot he was hurt.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 22, 2019 10:21:00 GMT -5
I’m hoping they split Eli and jones with the 1st team. Eli 1st qtr, Jones 2nd qtr. then let Jones play a series or 2 in the 3rd qtr with the 2nd string. Hoping to see a pass rush v a mediocre Bengals Oline featuring Bobby hart. Other than that, no injuries! No injuries! No injuries! Eli is the starter. I think we see him late into the 1st half, if not the entire 1dt half. DJ in the 3rd-4th. Lauletta and Tanney a drive a piece in the 4th. Something like that. heard Eli maybe the whole fist quarter. Jones will finish the 1st half then Lauletta and Tanney 3rd and 4th
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Post by dannydimes8 on Aug 22, 2019 10:41:03 GMT -5
I’m hoping they split Eli and jones with the 1st team. Eli 1st qtr, Jones 2nd qtr. then let Jones play a series or 2 in the 3rd qtr with the 2nd string. Hoping to see a pass rush v a mediocre Bengals Oline featuring Bobby hart. Other than that, no injuries! No injuries! No injuries! Eli is the starter. I think we see him late into the 1st half, if not the entire 1dt half. DJ in the 3rd-4th. Lauletta and Tanney a drive a piece in the 4th. Something like that. Barkley and Engram are starters and won’t even play. Eli doesn’t need an entire half. I wanna see Jones get some work v legit NFL players, he’s a snap away from playing in real games and will eventually takeover.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 22, 2019 10:47:16 GMT -5
Eli is the starter. I think we see him late into the 1st half, if not the entire 1dt half. DJ in the 3rd-4th. Lauletta and Tanney a drive a piece in the 4th. Something like that. Barkley and Engram are starters and won’t even play. Eli doesn’t need an entire half. I wanna see Jones get some work v legit NFL players, he’s a snap away from playing in real games and will eventually takeover. I want to see a full game of DJ. I couldnt care less about the other QBs right now. Get DJ work. I guess it will depend on how th drives go. If Eli get 2 long drives in the 1st Q and score TDs, they would probably take him out. If he struggles he will stay in longer.
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Post by SG88 on Aug 22, 2019 11:03:02 GMT -5
Unfortunately I won't be watching this one live. I'm going to DVR the showing of it tomorrow morning on NFLN.
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Post by Kruunch on Aug 22, 2019 11:06:10 GMT -5
I think it’s safe to say Sam Beal is injured and will not play.
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Post by Vandelay on Aug 22, 2019 11:23:02 GMT -5
Barkley and Engram are starters and won’t even play. Eli doesn’t need an entire half. I wanna see Jones get some work v legit NFL players, he’s a snap away from playing in real games and will eventually takeover. I want to see a full game of DJ. I couldnt care less about the other QBs right now. Get DJ work. I guess it will depend on how th drives go. If Eli get 2 long drives in the 1st Q and score TDs, they would probably take him out. If he struggles he will stay in longer. Yep. I want to see him start the regular season since we're not going anywhere this year and see if he's legit. We'll be picking in the top 6 or 7 next draft and there will be three QB's in the top 10 who are probably better than DJ (Herbert, Tua, Fromm).
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 22, 2019 11:29:00 GMT -5
I want to see a full game of DJ. I couldnt care less about the other QBs right now. Get DJ work. I guess it will depend on how th drives go. If Eli get 2 long drives in the 1st Q and score TDs, they would probably take him out. If he struggles he will stay in longer. Yep. I want to see him start the regular season since we're not going anywhere this year and see if he's legit. We'll be picking in the top 6 or 7 next draft and there will be three QB's in the top 10 who are probably better than DJ (Herbert, Tua, Fromm). We aren't taking a QB next year. 100% sure of that.
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Post by lasion2 on Aug 22, 2019 11:41:28 GMT -5
I want to see a full game of DJ. I couldnt care less about the other QBs right now. Get DJ work. I guess it will depend on how th drives go. If Eli get 2 long drives in the 1st Q and score TDs, they would probably take him out. If he struggles he will stay in longer. Yep. I want to see him start the regular season since we're not going anywhere this year and see if he's legit. We'll be picking in the top 6 or 7 next draft and there will be three QB's in the top 10 who are probably better than DJ (Herbert, Tua, Fromm). Come again for Big Fudge?
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2019 11:56:36 GMT -5
Unfortunately I won't be watching this one live. I'm going to DVR the showing of it tomorrow morning on NFLN. Same...headed to Miami while its on
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 22, 2019 11:58:14 GMT -5
I think it’s safe to say Sam Beal is injured and will not play. ....on Game 10 of regular season
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2019 11:59:30 GMT -5
I want to see a full game of DJ. I couldnt care less about the other QBs right now. Get DJ work. I guess it will depend on how th drives go. If Eli get 2 long drives in the 1st Q and score TDs, they would probably take him out. If he struggles he will stay in longer. Yep. I want to see him start the regular season since we're not going anywhere this year and see if he's legit. We'll be picking in the top 6 or 7 next draft and there will be three QB's in the top 10 who are probably better than DJ (Herbert, Tua, Fromm). Why are people still with this narrative? if we have a top 6 or 7 next draft....we have our guy 1.BPA at a high impact spot on the team (Jeudy,pass rusher depending on need) 2.trade back and stock up on future high picks to keep a steady flow of good football players so that we dont have to pay everyone of our pending free.agents down the line
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Post by lasion2 on Aug 22, 2019 12:20:53 GMT -5
I presumed he was kidding. Under no circumstances, catastrophic injury notwithstanding, is that how you build a competitive team.
Even if DJ is tragically bad, you give him the next year while strengthening the team. No one on the team is on a shot clock. A team that is destined to go 6-10 with or without above avg qb play.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 22, 2019 13:17:59 GMT -5
Yep. I want to see him start the regular season since we're not going anywhere this year and see if he's legit. We'll be picking in the top 6 or 7 next draft and there will be three QB's in the top 10 who are probably better than DJ (Herbert, Tua, Fromm). Why are people still with this narrative? if we have a top 6 or 7 next draft....we have our guy 1.BPA at a high impact spot on the team (Jeudy,pass rusher depending on need) 2.trade back and stock up on future high picks to keep a steady flow of good football players so that we dont have to pay everyone of our pending free.agents down the line Your money here .DJ should get a good three years to see what he is ,this isn't the old NFL pays are slotted you can draft aQB every other year and not lose sleep but you will spend up those assets .This if it flopped is no longer the Dave Brown death sentence.Think the kid has a great chance to be a real good QB he was the coaches choice for that system, lets give it a chance, I don't know what people are seeing in these guys coming up Tua to me holds the ball and gets knocked out way to much, Herbert did not look accurate and far to manny average to below average games. Fromm I like but we have a QB.
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Post by Kruunch on Aug 22, 2019 13:24:37 GMT -5
I think it’s safe to say Sam Beal is injured and will not play. ....on Game 10 of regular season In 2023 with the Buffalo Knuckleheads of the XFL.
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Post by robl on Aug 22, 2019 13:49:30 GMT -5
Why are people still with this narrative? if we have a top 6 or 7 next draft....we have our guy 1.BPA at a high impact spot on the team (Jeudy,pass rusher depending on need) 2.trade back and stock up on future high picks to keep a steady flow of good football players so that we dont have to pay everyone of our pending free.agents down the line Your money here .DJ should get a good three years to see what he is ,this isn't the old NFL pays are slotted you can draft aQB every other year and not lose sleep but you will spend up those assets .This if it flopped is no longer the Dave Brown death sentence.Think the kid has a great chance to be a real good QB he was the coaches choice for that system, lets give it a chance, I don't know what people are seeing in these guys coming up Tua to me holds the ball and gets knocked out way to much, Herbert did not look accurate and far to manny average to below average games. Fromm I like but we have a QB. OTOH if Lawrence is available to us in 2 years I’d have to think about it.
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 22, 2019 13:52:22 GMT -5
Daniel Jones, the sixth overall pick, is averaging 12.0 yards per throw Impossible. I watched 4 of his college games and he has a noodle arm.
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 22, 2019 13:55:08 GMT -5
I want to see a full game of DJ. I couldnt care less about the other QBs right now. Get DJ work. I guess it will depend on how th drives go. If Eli get 2 long drives in the 1st Q and score TDs, they would probably take him out. If he struggles he will stay in longer. Yep. I want to see him start the regular season since we're not going anywhere this year and see if he's legit. We'll be picking in the top 6 or 7 next draft and there will be three QB's in the top 10 who are probably better than DJ (Herbert, Tua, Fromm). Do you actually think it is remotely possible we take a QB next year? Jones would have to literally snap in two for that to happen. We are not Arizona...thank god.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 22, 2019 13:59:36 GMT -5
Your money here .DJ should get a good three years to see what he is ,this isn't the old NFL pays are slotted you can draft aQB every other year and not lose sleep but you will spend up those assets .This if it flopped is no longer the Dave Brown death sentence.Think the kid has a great chance to be a real good QB he was the coaches choice for that system, lets give it a chance, I don't know what people are seeing in these guys coming up Tua to me holds the ball and gets knocked out way to much, Herbert did not look accurate and far to manny average to below average games. Fromm I like but we have a QB. OTOH if Lawrence is available to us in 2 years I’d have to think about it. If he is available to us it means we have sucked for 2 more years so I don't think your thinking about it at that point pull the trigger, having 2 starting QBs you drafted isn't the worst thing.
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 22, 2019 14:09:25 GMT -5
OTOH if Lawrence is available to us in 2 years I’d have to think about it. I feel like the only person on earth not blown away by the kid. Don't get me wrong, he played well....let's see him do it for more than 1 year before sending him to Canton. JR year is a long way away for that kid.
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Post by Waybackfan on Aug 22, 2019 14:23:18 GMT -5
I think they'll split the time like last week. No sense getting starters hurt for a meaningless game.
They know who they will definitely keep so they need to figure out the rest.
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