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Post by Kase1 on Aug 25, 2019 14:40:43 GMT -5
So College football has officially started this past weekend, which players intrigue you as potential future Giants
For me there are a few, Im looking for us to ideally draft a Center, OT, ILB, and a WR
1. C- Tyler Biadasz, Wisconsin. I was a HUGE fan of this dude last year, hell I wanted to take him in the 2nd, but he decided to return back to school. He is big, strong, quick, good in space, he excels in pass pro and run blocking. Not really a hole in this dudes game, arguably my favorite prospect for us in 2020
2. OT- Andrew Thomas, Georgia. Nice athleticism good length, better run blocker than most LT prospects, stronger than Andre Dillard and Jonah Williams. good hand placement and technique, Thomas is a well-developed pass protector who sustains his blocks and prevents a successful second effort from defenders. Thomas plays with good leverage and knee bend on most plays, and that allows him to hold his ground against bull rushes. Thomas also is very disciplined and you don't see inconsistencies from play to play or game to game. As a run blocker, Thomas is effective. He is quick to the second level and fires out of his stance. He gets into defenders quickly with no hesitation to get physical and tie them up. Thomas is strong to lock up defenders and sustain his blocks.
3. OT- Walker Little, Stanford. Sounds like a prototypical RT, In pass protection, Little is tough to beat for edge rushers. He has good length and strength, and is able to bend at the knee. Little sets up well to take on rushers, and once he gets a hold of defenders, they are in trouble. His length and strength allow him to sustain blocks to the whistle, and he is very difficult for rushers to shed. His long arms and strong upper body also give him an edge in recoverability, so even when he is slightly out of position, he can compensate by getting enough of the rushers to give his quarterback time to throw. Generally, Little is very dependable to not allow pressure. He has good hand placement and is intelligent to recognize how defenses are attacking the edge. Little also flashes some nastiness as a pass blocker, and it is not uncommon to see him grab a rusher in the chest and throw them to the ground with ferocity. Little sets a physical presence and is a real battler who makes it a long day for edge rushers to match up against. Little is a plus run blocker for a left tackle. He is a fighter who has some nastiness to him. He definitely is not a finesse left tackle thatwhoshies away from getting violent with defenders. Little can get into the chest of defensive linemen and get a push on them at times. At other times, he uses his length to turn and manipulate defenders to keep them out of the play. In the ground game, Little could stand to improve his ability to stay on his feet. Too often, he stumbles and falls to a knee at the second level or trying to push a defender.
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Post by Kase1 on Aug 25, 2019 15:09:52 GMT -5
4. 3-4DE- Raekwon Davis, Alabama. Blend of size, strength, athleticism, oh and named after my 2nd favorite member of the Wu-Tang Clan. For the NFL, he projects as a nose tackle in a 3-4 or 4-3, yet he could also play five-technique end in a 3-4 defense. His lateral anchor is rare and truly phenomenal. Teams just can't move him at all in the ground game. Davis' lower and upper body strength gives him a rare ability to handle bump blocks and double teams without giving up any movement in the ground game. Davis showed interior pass-rush skills with a fast first-step, active hands with functional strength to fight off blocks, and a burst to close. Davis can use powerful bull rushes to power through blockers as well.
5. 3-4 DE- Derrick Browwn, Auburn. Brown played well as a junior despite facing a bunch of double teams. He is fast and powerful at the point of attack. Some scouts are really high on Brown and feel he has huge upside due to still being a very young player. Brown totaled 48 tackles, 4.5 sacks, 10.5 tackles for a loss and one forced fumble in 2018. Team sources love Brown with his quickness to push the pocket and the strength that he plays with. They see him as a three-technique for a 4-3, and he could play as a one-technique as well. Sources say they see Brown as a future first-round talent. In 2017, Brown was a really solid interior lineman for Auburn. He was a tough run defender and contributed some in the pass rush. He totaled 56 tackles with nine tackles for a loss, 3.5 sacks and two forced fumbles for the year. Brown has the upside to get better as he gains experience.
6. ILB- Troy Dye, Oregon. Super super speedy tackling maching, dude is all over the field all of the time. Dye has been a good defender for the Ducks over the past three seasons. His best season came as a junior in 2018 when he totaled 115 tackles with eight tackles for a loss, two sacks, one interception and eight passes defended. Dye has shown progress in pass coverage over his time at Oregon, and as a freshman, he had 91 tackles with 13 for a loss, 6.5 sacks, and an interception. He had 107 tackles in 2017. Dye could be one of the top linebacker prospects for the 2020 NFL Draft.
7. WR- Jerry Jeudy, Alabama. The first attribute that jumps out about Jeudy is speed. He is a fast wideout who is a game breaker. After a fast first-step, Jeudy has a second gear to accelerate down the field and stretch defenses over the top. He can run by double coverage and score from anywhere on the field. His speed and athleticism allow him to consistently generate separation from defensive backs because he is very difficult to run with. Along with being a vertical threat, Jeudy should be a good third-down weapon in the NFL with his ability to get open on short to intermediate routes. Jeudy is excellent after the catch. He is very elusive in the open field with phenomenal feet to dodge tacklers, stop/start, and cut through the secondary. Jeudy's yards-after-the-catch skills combined with his speed make him very dangerous to turn a short reception into a long gain. Jeudy shows pretty good technique as a receiver as well. He tracks the ball well and has late hands to reel in passes, even with defenders close. While Jeudy is not a pure size mismatch, he has good enough height and shows an ability to make contested catches over defensive backs. There are times when Jeudy body catches when he could use his hands, but that is a minor issue overall. Jeudy has good feel and instincts, showing an ability to break off his routes to get open for his quarterback when plays break down.
8. WR- Laviska Shenault, Colorado Perhaps the trait that stands out the most about Shenault is his toughness. He is a thickly built receiver who plays the game the right way. Many wideouts with Shenault's strength and physicality are prone to pushing off defensive backs, but Shenault has enough quickness to get open and when he gets the ball in hands, he is special, dodging and weaving by defenders while running through arm tackles. He is very physical with defensive backs to power through tackles and get yards after contact. Shenault has quickness and shows a second gear when he gets into the open field. In the pros, he won't be a speed demon of a wide receiver who generates big separation from NFL cornerbacks, but he has some speed to make him dangerous and not limit him to being just a possession wideout. As a receiver, Shenault is pretty polished as he runs good routes, tracks the ball well, has good body control, is a hands catcher, and has strong hands to make contested catches.
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Post by TEM on Aug 25, 2019 15:35:25 GMT -5
6. ILB- Troy Dye, Oregon. Super super speedy tackling maching, dude is all over the field all of the time. Dye has been a good defender for the Ducks over the past three seasons. His best season came as a junior in 2018 when he totaled 115 tackles with eight tackles for a loss, two sacks, one interception and eight passes defended. Dye has shown progress in pass coverage over his time at Oregon, and as a freshman, he had 91 tackles with 13 for a loss, 6.5 sacks, and an interception. He had 107 tackles in 2017. Dye could be one of the top linebacker prospects for the 2020 NFL Draft. 6. ILB- Troy Dye, Oregon. Super super speedy tackling maching, dude is all over the field all of the time. Dye has been a good defender for the Ducks over the past three seasons. His best season came as a junior in 2018 when he totaled 115 tackles with eight tackles for a loss, two sacks, one interception and eight passes defended. Dye has shown progress in pass coverage over his time at Oregon, and as a freshman, he had 91 tackles with 13 for a loss, 6.5 sacks, and an interception. He had 107 tackles in 2017. Dye could be one of the top linebacker prospects for the 2020 NFL Draft. This I would like to add my sleeper Tipa Galea'i 3-4 OLB Uath State, A juiced-up pass rusher with elite burst. Explosive, natural edge bender who can dip and flatten around the corner on a consistent basis. Has a lethal fastball as a dominant speed rusher. Takes advantage of speed mismatch off the edge with well-timed inside counter moves. High-effort player. Consistently chases down plays from the backside and has a knack for always being around the football. Offers a ton of stand-up value as a 3-4 outside linebacker. Adept and experienced at dropping into coverage. Instincts are off the charts. Has impressive blend of anticipation and quickness off the ball. Very productive 2018 season with 10.5 sacks, three forced fumbles, and two interceptions.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 25, 2019 16:22:57 GMT -5
Forget his name but there is a RT from Iowa that looks to be the part
Cee Dee Lamb is another in a line of dynamic playmakers from Oklahoma.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 26, 2019 10:06:49 GMT -5
Pass rusher from Florida, Zuniga looked pretty solid the other night.
Speaking of pass rushers and being a Cuse fan, I think they have 2 you all should know. Kendall Coleman and Alton Robinson. Fantastic bookend pass rushers.
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Post by shocknaweny on Aug 26, 2019 10:12:30 GMT -5
Off the top of my head Cee Dee Lamb like Legacy said but I'll start paying more attention to it this weekend
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Post by Nite on Aug 30, 2019 6:23:31 GMT -5
Travis Etienne Clemson RB..
Vs Georgie Tech 12 Carries 205 Yrds 3 TDs.. Can also catch the ball out of the backfield. Early Heisman candidate .. Imagine pairing him with SQB..
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 30, 2019 7:29:40 GMT -5
Travis Etienne Clemson RB.. Vs Georgie Tech 12 Carries 205 Yrds 3 TDs.. Can also catch the ball out of the backfield. Early Heisman candidate .. Imagine pairing him with SQB.. He is more a McCaffrey/Bush/Sproles/Cohen type X factor playmaker that could be used the way Eric Metcalf was used by June Jones in Atlanta,a hybrid RB/slot receiver... Pairing him with Barkley in the backfield would really force defenses into seizures...especially out of a 12..(and especially if Barkley does take on a few of Beckham's routes as rumored he was going to)
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Post by shocknaweny on Aug 30, 2019 9:03:35 GMT -5
Travis Etienne Clemson RB.. Vs Georgie Tech 12 Carries 205 Yrds 3 TDs.. Can also catch the ball out of the backfield. Early Heisman candidate .. Imagine pairing him with SQB.. I don't think I would be happy if Dave invested more high draft capital in a back
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Post by Nite on Aug 31, 2019 0:29:50 GMT -5
Travis Etienne Clemson RB.. Vs Georgie Tech 12 Carries 205 Yrds 3 TDs.. Can also catch the ball out of the backfield. Early Heisman candidate .. Imagine pairing him with SQB.. I don't think I would be happy if Dave invested more high draft capital in a back Maybe we get lucky and he falls to us in the 3rd rd...
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 31, 2019 10:06:22 GMT -5
I don't think I would be happy if Dave invested more high draft capital in a back Maybe we get lucky and he falls to us in the 3rd rd... Yeah no,this is not happening unless something catastrophic happens to him
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 31, 2019 10:08:37 GMT -5
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Post by shocknaweny on Aug 31, 2019 10:12:06 GMT -5
need to go receiver and OT early next spring
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 1, 2019 8:38:40 GMT -5
need to go receiver and OT early next spring Anyone you have in mind??
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Post by TheAussieGiant on Sept 2, 2019 0:13:50 GMT -5
Travis Etienne Clemson RB.. Vs Georgie Tech 12 Carries 205 Yrds 3 TDs.. Can also catch the ball out of the backfield. Early Heisman candidate .. Imagine pairing him with SQB.. I don't think I would be happy if Dave invested more high draft capital in a back I actually like the idea of having a second good running back on the roster. Someone good enough that we can let SQB rest the legs. Try to extend that mans playing career and keep the quality of his touches as high as possible.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 2, 2019 6:47:04 GMT -5
I don't think I would be happy if Dave invested more high draft capital in a back I actually like the idea of having a second good running back on the roster. Someone good enough that we can let SQB rest the legs. Try to extend that mans playing career and keep the quality of his touches as high as possible. Same..but must be versatile have be a dual threat so we aren't predictable based on personal. People forget Shurmer had Sproles in Philly and had him on the field in Philly with McCoy half ybe time. While this was going on people also forget Seattle was running the same thing with Lynch and Harvin was the dynamic X factor playmaker that opened up their running game(remember Harvin was a hybrid slot/RB) I'm not against Eitene at all if he is used as that hybrid slot/rb as well.as this team will certainly be taking some sort or dynamic X factor type playmaker early(and I also put Huggs lll in this category as Alabama uses him like this as well)
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 2, 2019 10:22:41 GMT -5
I don't think I would be happy if Dave invested more high draft capital in a back I actually like the idea of having a second good running back on the roster. Someone good enough that we can let SQB rest the legs. Try to extend that mans playing career and keep the quality of his touches as high as possible. I love the idea. Not a 1st or 2nd round pick, but maybe we can part with a 3rd rounder to get a nice complimentary back for SQB..... This would be awful for fantasy football, but great for real football, LOL
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 2, 2019 10:26:14 GMT -5
Jeudy is a SICK WR, but I gotta say MAN, is he skinny or what..... Feed that kid a cheeseburger or something, LOL
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Post by lasion2 on Sept 3, 2019 8:39:30 GMT -5
Forget his name but there is a RT from Iowa that looks to be the part Cee Dee Lamb is another in a line of dynamic playmakers from Oklahoma. Tristan Wirfs. Perfect target for DG in Rd. 2. I think we probably pick around 10th and 42nd. Jeudy probably gone. But Shenault or Reagor (sub 4.3 kid from TCU) will be there at 10. Wirfs at 42 to groom behind Solder for a year. Kenneth Murray or Joe Bachie at LB should be available at 74. Then you have another 3rd around 100, and a 4th for a guard project to replace Zietler in 2-3 years and a safety or a DL rotation guy. As if 9/3/2019 that’s my draft. Add a RT and a LB in FA, and we are truly in business.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 3, 2019 9:04:36 GMT -5
Forget his name but there is a RT from Iowa that looks to be the part Cee Dee Lamb is another in a line of dynamic playmakers from Oklahoma. Tristan Wirfs. Perfect target for DG in Rd. 2. I think we probably pick around 10th and 42nd. Jeudy probably gone. But Shenault or Reagor (sub 4.3 kid from TCU) will be there at 10. Wirfs at 42 to groom behind Solder for a year. Kenneth Murray or Joe Bachie at LB should be available at 74. Then you have another 3rd around 100, and a 4th for a guard project to replace Zietler in 2-3 years and a safety or a DL rotation guy. As if 9/3/2019 that’s my draft. Add a RT and a LB in FA, and we are truly in business. I have a feeling Wirfs slides into the late 1st,perfect "safe" pick as he is vintage trench meat from Iowa that has steady good 10 year lunchpail starter written all over him Jeudy is going to be the first non qb off the board.... Ruggs or Lamb would be fine for me
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Post by shocknaweny on Sept 3, 2019 9:21:35 GMT -5
need to go receiver and OT early next spring Anyone you have in mind?? Cee dee Lamb
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Post by lasion2 on Sept 3, 2019 9:52:49 GMT -5
I’m gonna keep an eye on Lamb. I don’t remember being blown away by his speed or size at the end of last year. Production is there though.
As I said in the other thread what I want the giants to do and what I think DG will do are different things. Would you be really surprised if he went pass rush at 10 in 2020? Waited till 3rd or 4th rds for OL help?
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 3, 2019 12:00:31 GMT -5
I’m gonna keep an eye on Lamb. I don’t remember being blown away by his speed or size at the end of last year. Production is there though. As I said in the other thread what I want the giants to do and what I think DG will do are different things. Would you be really surprised if he went pass rush at 10 in 2020? Waited till 3rd or 4th rds for OL help? By the time we pick the blue chip pass rushers will be gone His history in Carolina and here he shows his confidence in scouting linemen and his track record shows this,so with 2 3rds and a 4th next year that is where he probably strikes for o line He likes high impact players on a BPA basis,me thinks because of the amount of really good recievers available this next draft and knowing the importance of surrounding a new qb with talent he gets the playmaker early
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 3, 2019 16:20:03 GMT -5
Forget his name but there is a RT from Iowa that looks to be the part Cee Dee Lamb is another in a line of dynamic playmakers from Oklahoma. Tristan Wirfs. Perfect target for DG in Rd. 2. I think we probably pick around 10th and 42nd. Jeudy probably gone. But Shenault or Reagor (sub 4.3 kid from TCU) will be there at 10. Wirfs at 42 to groom behind Solder for a year. Kenneth Murray or Joe Bachie at LB should be available at 74. Then you have another 3rd around 100, and a 4th for a guard project to replace Zietler in 2-3 years and a safety or a DL rotation guy. As if 9/3/2019 that’s my draft. Add a RT and a LB in FA, and we are truly in business. Not too familiar with Wirfs, but Iowa has been pretty successful producing OL, so thats working in his favor Here's what I found on walterfootball.com Tristan Wirfs*, OT, Iowa Height: 6-5. Weight: 322. Projected 40 Time: 5.32. Projected Round (2020): 1-3. 8/17/19: Under head coach Kirk Ferentz, Iowa has produced a lot of good offensive line talent, so it was very noteworthy when Wirfs became the first true freshman to start at tackle under Ferentz. While being the regular starter on the right side, he did play left tackle in Iowa's bowl game to end his freshman campaign but was back at right tackle in 2018. Wirfs is a powerful right tackle who is a strong run blocker at the point of attack. He also has the quickness and athleticism to develop into a good pass protector. As a sophomore, Wirfs didn't allow a sack. Some NFL teams might consider moving him to left tackle. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2020OT.php#ixzz5yUznfhzq
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 3, 2019 16:24:47 GMT -5
I’m gonna keep an eye on Lamb. I don’t remember being blown away by his speed or size at the end of last year. Production is there though. As I said in the other thread what I want the giants to do and what I think DG will do are different things. Would you be really surprised if he went pass rush at 10 in 2020? Waited till 3rd or 4th rds for OL help? By the time we pick the blue chip pass rushers will be gone His history in Carolina and here he shows his confidence in scouting linemen and his track record shows this,so with 2 3rds and a 4th next year that is where he probably strikes for o line He likes high impact players on a BPA basis,me thinks because of the amount of really good recievers available this next draft and knowing the importance of surrounding a new qb with talent he gets the playmaker early Where do you think we will pick ???? Personally, I think we are going to be picking pretty high in 2020.....
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 3, 2019 16:32:57 GMT -5
By the time we pick the blue chip pass rushers will be gone His history in Carolina and here he shows his confidence in scouting linemen and his track record shows this,so with 2 3rds and a 4th next year that is where he probably strikes for o line He likes high impact players on a BPA basis,me thinks because of the amount of really good recievers available this next draft and knowing the importance of surrounding a new qb with talent he gets the playmaker early Where do you think we will pick ???? Personally, I think we are going to be picking pretty high in 2020..... 10-15
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 3, 2019 16:48:44 GMT -5
Where do you think we will pick ???? Personally, I think we are going to be picking pretty high in 2020..... 10-15 ....And im thinking top 10 almost guaranteed, Top 5 very likely, IMO
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Post by nygfanstrick on Sept 8, 2019 22:13:28 GMT -5
AJ Epenesa DE Iowa is a stud. Lot of intriguing WR prospects. But I think we need an edge guy desperately. Maybe FA we can get one or Carter and/or Ximines can step up
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 10, 2019 14:10:02 GMT -5
Really liking Wirfs Thing is Getty won't pull the trigger on an o lineman round 1 as his history has been either an impact playmaker on offense or defense... He will have at least 2 3rd round picks and probably early 4th..his historic sweet spot for o linemen.
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Post by lasion2 on Sept 11, 2019 23:33:45 GMT -5
Really liking Wirfs Thing is Getty won't pull the trigger on an o lineman round 1 as his history has been either an impact playmaker on offense or defense... He will have at least 2 3rd round picks and probably early 4th..his historic sweet spot for o linemen. Yeah and add to that we don’t “need” a LT “right now”. We certainly need an X wr, which there seem to be a bunch of, and a pass rush, which there seems to be few of in this draft class. I guess we can hope 5-6 other OL play and test really well to move him down to rd. 2....but it’s doubtful. Give it 10 weeks. Then we’ll know exactly what we need, a good idea of what’s available, and a good idea of where we’re going to pick. It could go a few different ways vis a vie need versus value.
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