goldenratio
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Post by goldenratio on Aug 10, 2018 16:51:16 GMT -5
I edited this post as the "R-word" is not appropriate or permitted on this site. I fully expect the entire NFL community to come down hard for Jenkins for making that tweet. - Roosevelt
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Post by Kruunch on Aug 10, 2018 16:56:09 GMT -5
He is a Cleveland Brown, they celebrate winning the coin toss. Jarvis Landry will have over 100 receptions this season, and the Browns will still be eliminated from the playoffs before Halloween.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 10, 2018 17:00:35 GMT -5
Was Janoris an English major in college?
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 10, 2018 17:12:39 GMT -5
This has all the epic makings of 2017 repeating all over again.
Where are the leaders of this team? Who are they? Nothing. No one.
I really miss the Antonio Pierces and the Michael Strahans. Not just because of how good they were, but because of their leadership.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 10, 2018 17:23:06 GMT -5
He is a Cleveland Brown, they celebrate winning the coin toss. Jarvis Landry will have over 100 receptions this season, and the Browns will still be eliminated from the playoffs before Halloween. They had as many preseason wins last year as regular season wins the past 3 years Let that sink in.
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Post by Kase1 on Aug 10, 2018 17:27:44 GMT -5
Was Janoris an English major in college? Yes
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Post by TEM on Aug 10, 2018 17:29:38 GMT -5
I would like to know ; What moronic idiot member of the press, would actually ask the HC if OBJ was held out of the game because of his contract negotiations. Talk about the dumbest question I have heard in a while. Coach Shurmur should have called him out on that by responding "I'll have to review the tape"
It is in time frame 4:07 of the post game interview.
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goldenratio
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Post by goldenratio on Aug 10, 2018 17:30:21 GMT -5
jonathan stewart stinks!(warning, fart video!)>>>>
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 10, 2018 19:43:53 GMT -5
I would like to know ; What moronic idiot member of the press, would actually ask the HC if OBJ was held out of the game because of his contract negotiations. Talk about the dumbest question I have heard in a while. Coach Shurmur should have called him out on that by responding "I'll have to review the tape" It is in time frame 4:07 of the post game interview. then they wonder why coaches and players loath some of them lol.
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Post by Parademon1 on Aug 10, 2018 19:46:14 GMT -5
"R" word? Really? Sad times we live in when a word offends someone's wittle feelings.
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Post by ocgiant on Aug 10, 2018 20:08:25 GMT -5
Awkward thread already... from awkward reporting; so called news... oh boy, it is only the preseason(scrimmage) against Cleveland... wheels are not coming off... yet.
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Post by goldenratio on Aug 10, 2018 21:06:11 GMT -5
Giants fans should not overreact to the outcome of the game. As NFL analyst Geoff Schwartz pointed out on Twitter, the Browns game-planned to win while the Giants didn't put any time into the actual game-planning and play calling (most team's don't in the preseason). "One random thought from last night. You can always tell which teams have game planned just a bit for preseason game 1. The Browns last night game planned. Exotic pressures on D. Tons of play action on O… Giants were so basic on offense and defense. They didn’t game plan," Schwartz Tweeted. www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/giants-injury-report-shurmurs-update-after-preseason-opener/In other words "Its preseason (Rword)"!
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Aug 10, 2018 21:11:13 GMT -5
Giants fans should not overreact to the outcome of the game. As NFL analyst Geoff Schwartz pointed out on Twitter, the Browns game-planned to win while the Giants didn't put any time into the actual game-planning and play calling (most team's don't in the preseason). "One random thought from last night. You can always tell which teams have game planned just a bit for preseason game 1. The Browns last night game planned. Exotic pressures on D. Tons of play action on O… Giants were so basic on offense and defense. They didn’t game plan," Schwartz Tweeted. www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/giants-injury-report-shurmurs-update-after-preseason-opener/In other words "Its preseason (Rword)"! I like the defense by Schwartz, but by that logic I'd say McAdoo never game planned a game during his tenure and that last night was more of the same. If I were going by that logic that is.
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Post by boxcarwillie on Aug 11, 2018 1:15:25 GMT -5
Giants fans should not overreact to the outcome of the game. As NFL analyst Geoff Schwartz pointed out on Twitter, the Browns game-planned to win while the Giants didn't put any time into the actual game-planning and play calling (most team's don't in the preseason). "One random thought from last night. You can always tell which teams have game planned just a bit for preseason game 1. The Browns last night game planned. Exotic pressures on D. Tons of play action on O… Giants were so basic on offense and defense. They didn’t game plan," Schwartz Tweeted. www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/giants-injury-report-shurmurs-update-after-preseason-opener/In other words "Its preseason (Rword)"! I like the defense by Schwartz, but by that logic I'd say McAdoo never game planned a game during his tenure and that last night was more of the same. If I were going by that logic that is. I think Shurmur and his crew will game plan alot when the real games come. Wouldn't it be good to game plan now too, so the players could practice implementing a game plan? I will answer my own question: The emphasis now is squarely on player evaluation and development. Game planning now would take focus and time away from the job at hand.
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Post by TEM on Aug 11, 2018 6:51:58 GMT -5
Giants fans should not overreact to the outcome of the game. As NFL analyst Geoff Schwartz pointed out on Twitter, the Browns game-planned to win while the Giants didn't put any time into the actual game-planning and play calling (most team's don't in the preseason). "One random thought from last night. You can always tell which teams have game planned just a bit for preseason game 1. The Browns last night game planned. Exotic pressures on D. Tons of play action on O… Giants were so basic on offense and defense. They didn’t game plan," Schwartz Tweeted. www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/giants-injury-report-shurmurs-update-after-preseason-opener/In other words "Its preseason (Rword)"! I agree the Giants played to accomplish what they wanted. Offensive line improvement ✔ Run the ball ✔ Stop the run ✔
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 7:01:40 GMT -5
Giants fans should not overreact to the outcome of the game. As NFL analyst Geoff Schwartz pointed out on Twitter, the Browns game-planned to win while the Giants didn't put any time into the actual game-planning and play calling (most team's don't in the preseason). "One random thought from last night. You can always tell which teams have game planned just a bit for preseason game 1. The Browns last night game planned. Exotic pressures on D. Tons of play action on O… Giants were so basic on offense and defense. They didn’t game plan," Schwartz Tweeted. www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/giants-injury-report-shurmurs-update-after-preseason-opener/In other words "Its preseason (Rword)"! I agree the Giants played to accomplish what they wanted. Offensive line improvement ✔ Run the ball ✔ Stop the run ✔ Pretty much. People forget how bad this team was vs the run last year (one of the worst). Entire DL was healthy and they got steamrolled from game 1. Looks like they’ve done a lot to address their biggest problems. To me, the big black eye right now is the secondary and there isn’t much they can do to change it. All they can hope is those guys get better and play smart football within the defence...good communication etc. If pressure gets better and run defence is stout then the DBs will have an easier time, but they have got to be on the ball because the talent is not there. For this group (and for any secondary really) it’s about playing smart and good communication...two things I think 1 of our starting outside CBs lacks.......
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Post by TEM on Aug 11, 2018 7:11:38 GMT -5
I agree the Giants played to accomplish what they wanted. Offensive line improvement ✔ Run the ball ✔ Stop the run ✔ Pretty much. People forget how bad this team was vs the run last year (one of the worst). Entire DL was healthy and they got steamrolled from game 1. Looks like they’ve done a lot to address their biggest problems. To me, the big black eye right now is the secondary and there isn’t much they can do to change it. All they can hope is those guys get better and play smart football within the defence...good communication etc. If pressure gets better and run defence is stout then the DBs will have an easier time, but they have got to be on the ball because the talent is not there. For this group (and for any secondary really) it’s about playing smart and good communication...two things I think 1 of our starting outside CBs lacks....... Some of our top depth DB, Donte Deayon, William Gay are out with minor injuries. I am not overly concerned.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 11, 2018 8:36:59 GMT -5
It would be different if we weren't coming off one of the worst seasons in franchise history. Most fans are on edge right now. Most want to make sure they see improvements. Even in scrimmages. I understand the frustration of not seeing Eli go down the field again and not punch it in.
Its only preseason, yes, but lets not get burned all game by rookie QBs and rookie WRs making their first ever appearances. Jenkins, Apple, Ogletree, ect.
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Post by BigBlue58 on Aug 11, 2018 19:40:12 GMT -5
He got burnt on that play! The fact that the game didn’t count is irrelevant....no matter how he tries to rationalize it! When the games do count and he gets burnt, it’ll just be a different excuse, another attitude and some bullshit platitude like “ I have to play better”.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 12, 2018 7:20:01 GMT -5
It would be different if we weren't coming off one of the worst seasons in franchise history. Most fans are on edge right now. Most want to make sure they see improvements. Even in scrimmages. I understand the frustration of not seeing Eli go down the field again and not punch it in. Its only preseason, yes, but lets not get burned all game by rookie QBs and rookie WRs making their first ever appearances. Jenkins, Apple, Ogletree, ect. Then don't watch, seriously I am not being a bitch but the Coach's need to see different players in different situations and sometimes they will suck and most of the time in the preseason they (YES) will suck. If you can't handle it , don't watch it but it is preseason and that is what will happen.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 12, 2018 7:32:07 GMT -5
when you think about most of the preseason games are filled with specific plays to see specific things. 93 guys to get in and see how they react. I get wanting to see some great plays and there were a few. But to get to down or too up is a joke.
They asked Eli about SBs big 39 yard run. He just smiled a little and said..."yeah well its only one run"...
exactly. One great run, one bad play, one this and one that.
Perspective....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 9:41:46 GMT -5
when you think about most of the preseason games are filled with specific plays to see specific things. 93 guys to get in and see how they react. I get wanting to see some great plays and there were a few. But to get to down or too up is a joke. They asked Eli about SBs big 39 yard run. He just smiled a little and said..."yeah well its only one run"... exactly. One great run, one bad play, one this and one that. Perspective.... I'll go with that. But then I'll ask: What's the purpose of these preseason games? Of these specific plays to see specific things? I'm pretty sure the answer(s) is "to see how these guys execute." Aside from our DL run's stoppage not much was well executed. So forget about the score (who ever cares about preseason scores?), forget about stats... just look at how the players executed. Now ask yourself: "was it good?"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 16:25:14 GMT -5
Giants fans should not overreact to the outcome of the game. As NFL analyst Geoff Schwartz pointed out on Twitter, the Browns game-planned to win while the Giants didn't put any time into the actual game-planning and play calling (most team's don't in the preseason). "One random thought from last night. You can always tell which teams have game planned just a bit for preseason game 1. The Browns last night game planned. Exotic pressures on D. Tons of play action on O… Giants were so basic on offense and defense. They didn’t game plan," Schwartz Tweeted. www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/giants-injury-report-shurmurs-update-after-preseason-opener/In other words "Its preseason (Rword)"! I agree the Giants played to accomplish what they wanted. Offensive line improvement ✔ Run the ball ✔ Stop the run ✔ LOL really? The starting o-line gave up 2 sacks on 2 drives, the only good run was all Barkley eluding 3 defenders standing there untouched waiting for him and 2 of the 7 runs went for negative yardage. It must be nice to watch the games through your eyes.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 12, 2018 17:40:34 GMT -5
when you think about most of the preseason games are filled with specific plays to see specific things. 93 guys to get in and see how they react. I get wanting to see some great plays and there were a few. But to get to down or too up is a joke. They asked Eli about SBs big 39 yard run. He just smiled a little and said..."yeah well its only one run"... exactly. One great run, one bad play, one this and one that. Perspective.... I'll go with that. But then I'll ask: What's the purpose of these preseason games? Of these specific plays to see specific things? I'm pretty sure the answer(s) is "to see how these guys execute." Aside from our DL run's stoppage not much was well executed. So forget about the score (who ever cares about preseason scores?), forget about stats... just look at how the players executed. Now ask yourself: "was it good?" More to it than just execution. So many phases to one play. In preason maybe it’s good to have three of four phases of a play to happen correctly. But yes....you want to see some good play on the field. But all the minutia we don’t maybe see right away the film will. For better or worse.
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Post by Merc on Aug 12, 2018 18:45:28 GMT -5
"R" word? Really? Sad times we live in when a word offends someone's wittle feelings. If you are so upset about the R word than you are a P word.
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Post by Martin on Aug 12, 2018 18:57:13 GMT -5
I don't pay too much attention about losing until game 3 of the real season. Then its real.
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Post by TEM on Aug 12, 2018 19:10:40 GMT -5
I agree the Giants played to accomplish what they wanted. Offensive line improvement ✔ Run the ball ✔ Stop the run ✔ LOL really? The starting o-line gave up 2 sacks on 2 drives, the only good run was all Barkley eluding 3 defenders standing there untouched waiting for him and 2 of the 7 runs went for negative yardage. It must be nice to watch the games through your eyes. One was because the defender jumped. That is not a sack.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 19:43:14 GMT -5
I'll go with that. But then I'll ask: What's the purpose of these preseason games? Of these specific plays to see specific things? I'm pretty sure the answer(s) is "to see how these guys execute." Aside from our DL run's stoppage not much was well executed. So forget about the score (who ever cares about preseason scores?), forget about stats... just look at how the players executed. Now ask yourself: "was it good?" More to it than just execution. So many phases to one play. In preason maybe it’s good to have three of four phases of a play to happen correctly. But yes....you want to see some good play on the field. But all the minutia we don’t maybe see right away the film will. For better or worse. I could go with that. You just hope this coaching staff is able to correct/adjust in the ensuing month. Because if not it’s going to be another long season.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 12, 2018 20:22:53 GMT -5
More to it than just execution. So many phases to one play. In preason maybe it’s good to have three of four phases of a play to happen correctly. But yes....you want to see some good play on the field. But all the minutia we don’t maybe see right away the film will. For better or worse. I could go with that. You just hope this coaching staff is able to correct/adjust in the ensuing month. Because if not it’s going to be another long season. Which is a whole other aspect of this “new” team.
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Post by Parademon1 on Aug 12, 2018 20:51:21 GMT -5
"R" word? Really? Sad times we live in when a word offends someone's wittle feelings. If you are so upset about the R word than you are a P word. Lacking in the reading comp dept? Where the F do you see that the word "retard" upset me? Sorry, I'm not a man bun soy drinker that get's "offended" by anything in this world. Hopefully one day in the near future, America's nutsack will drop again.
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