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Post by straightrazorman on Aug 11, 2018 10:11:37 GMT -5
preseason games. Imagine if we went right into the regular season without them. I don’t understand all the pessimism about the first game. New players, new coaching staff, new system on both sides of the ball. Preseason games, in my mind, are are more for evaluation and testing than anything else. There are going to be birthing and growing pains with this team, as we witnessed on Thursday night. There was very little game planning for the Browns because the coaching staff can’t game plan when they don’t know for sure how the players are going to perform in real game conditions. Now, with game tape, they can make their evaluations, corrections, and begin to place players in their best positions on the depth chart. Hopefully, we’ll see improvements every week until the regular season starts. I still don’t expect this team to be world beaters right from the start because it’s a work in progress. I do think they’ll get better as the season progresses. I’m being realistically optimistic about this season. I hope it works out. Anything this team does in a positive direction will be better than the unmitigated debacle of last year.
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Post by Roosevelt on Aug 11, 2018 10:28:22 GMT -5
That’s a totally logical way of looking at things. Are you new hear? 😏
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 11, 2018 10:29:33 GMT -5
Agreed.
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 11, 2018 10:30:06 GMT -5
preseason games. Imagine if we went right into the regular season without them. I don’t understand all the pessimism about the first game. New players, new coaching staff, new system on both sides of the ball. Preseason games, in my mind, are are more for evaluation and testing than anything else. There are going to be birthing and growing pains with this team, as we witnessed on Thursday night. There was very little game planning for the Browns because the coaching staff can’t game plan when they don’t know for sure how the players are going to perform in real game conditions. Now, with game tape, they can make their evaluations, corrections, and begin to place players in their best positions on the depth chart. Hopefully, we’ll see improvements every week until the regular season starts. I still don’t expect this team to be world beaters right from the start because it’s a work in progress. I do think they’ll get better as the season progresses. I’m being realistically optimistic about this season. I hope it works out. Anything this team does in a positive direction will be better than the unmitigated debacle of last year. Good post |
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Post by TEM on Aug 11, 2018 10:35:23 GMT -5
Great post .
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Post by Roosevelt on Aug 11, 2018 11:28:18 GMT -5
I always thought I had a perfectly logical fan's perspective of watching the preseason games. Of course, I am just a fan who only played street ball, so I don't look at the game beyond that perspective.
Basically I am looking at how our ones look against our opponents ones. Then twos, then threes. Of course teams change out differently so it's expected that ones will beat the twos and twos the threes, etc. I think this allows me to get a pretty fair assessment of our team.
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Post by Bigjeep on Aug 11, 2018 11:32:10 GMT -5
It's only a preseason game doesn't work when you win 3 games all last year, 1 against Cleveland if I remember.  |
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 11, 2018 11:35:22 GMT -5
It's only a preseason game doesn't work when you win 3 games all last year, 1 against Cleveland if I remember. Of course it does. You either go all in to win a practice game or you use practice games for practice. |
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Post by Kruunch on Aug 11, 2018 11:36:18 GMT -5
Clearly this guy is new, he’s not a negative ******* yet
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Post by Jomo on Aug 11, 2018 11:36:27 GMT -5
That’s a totally logical way of looking at things. Are you new hear? 😏 Nailed it Rosey.  |
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Post by straightrazorman on Aug 11, 2018 12:35:08 GMT -5
That’s a totally logical way of looking at things. Are you new hear? 😏 We're all new here. I didn't post on the old GMB, but I followed it for about ten years, so I know most of you guys. Things got to be too nasty over there and for what? It's only a game. When I have more time I'll tell you my "Miracle in the Meadowlands" story. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Aug 11, 2018 14:29:52 GMT -5
That’s a totally logical way of looking at things. Are you new hear? 😏 We're all new here. I didn't post on the old GMB, but I followed it for about ten years, so I know most of you guys. Things got to be too nasty over there and for what? It's only a game. When I have more time I'll tell you my "Miracle in the Meadowlands" story.
Look forward to hearing it.
I agree about the old board. Towards the end that place felt like a hostile community of rival fans rather than fans that support the same team.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 11, 2018 14:35:46 GMT -5
All good to what the OP said.
For me in preseason I look for some flashes. Great routes, good reads, good communication, possible good depth, poise, leadership starting to develope.
But you have a roster of 93 so everything gets diluted. Practice, reps, drills, coaching.....it’s all diluted in preseason.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 14:50:32 GMT -5
I don’t understand all the pessimism about the first game. New players, new coaching staff, new system on both sides of the ball. Preseason games, in my mind, are are more for evaluation and testing than anything else. And from watching that game please tell me there is any other way to evaluate this team other than it looked like utter crap. Looking like utter crap funny enough will cause some pessimism.. |
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Post by straightrazorman on Aug 11, 2018 15:29:13 GMT -5
I don’t understand all the pessimism about the first game. New players, new coaching staff, new system on both sides of the ball. Preseason games, in my mind, are are more for evaluation and testing than anything else. And from watching that game please tell me there is any other way to evaluate this team other than it looked like utter crap. Looking like utter crap funny enough will cause some pessimism.. Only if you were expecting too much. I'm not expecting this team to be a contender until next season. I hope they play well this season. The potential is there, but it's a whole new ball of wax. If they do contend this year, all the better, but I'll be happy with just a winning record - even 8 & 8. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Aug 11, 2018 15:33:55 GMT -5
That’s a totally logical way of looking at things. Are you new hear? 😏 We're all new here. I didn't post on the old GMB, but I followed it for about ten years, so I know most of you guys. Things got to be too nasty over there and for what? It's only a game. When I have more time I'll tell you my "Miracle in the Meadowlands" story. HaHa, I was at that game also I had to be chained to the bed and the door locked like "wolfman". No matter what noise you hear from this room don't unlock the door. Not really but almost.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 15:54:36 GMT -5
And from watching that game please tell me there is any other way to evaluate this team other than it looked like utter crap. Looking like utter crap funny enough will cause some pessimism.. So you want to evaluate the whole team from one(the first one) pre season game where as someone else said ....there are 93 players to look at and evaluate going against another team that is doing the exact same thing and all the time while sitting out certain players for one reason or another?  Yeah brilliant.   What's brilliant is the 12-4 record you've most likely predicted they'd have each of the past 6 seasons. Why don't you ask the coaches how happy they are with that stench of a performance the other night and see if they think it's an issue or not? We go through this every single year, a bunch of fools sit here saying preseason means nothing when the Giants look terrible in it every year and then surprise surprise the season starts and they still look terrible! |
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Post by Bigjeep on Aug 11, 2018 15:59:11 GMT -5
That’s a totally logical way of looking at things. Are you new hear? 😏 We're all new here. I didn't post on the old GMB, but I followed it for about ten years, so I know most of you guys. Things got to be too nasty over there and for what? It's only a game. When I have more time I'll tell you my "Miracle in the Meadowlands" story. Nasty? lbGIpji |
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 11, 2018 16:34:40 GMT -5
So you want to evaluate the whole team from one(the first one) pre season game where as someone else said ....there are 93 players to look at and evaluate going against another team that is doing the exact same thing and all the time while sitting out certain players for one reason or another? Yeah brilliant. What's brilliant is the 12-4 record you've most likely predicted they'd have each of the past 6 seasons. Why don't you ask the coaches how happy they are with that stench of a performance the other night and see if they think it's an issue or not? We go through this every single year, a bunch of fools sit here saying preseason means nothing when the Giants look terrible in it every year and then surprise surprise the season starts and they still look terrible! Sounds like you need a new team. Try the Eagles. They won the Super Bowl last season. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 17:25:04 GMT -5
What's brilliant is the 12-4 record you've most likely predicted they'd have each of the past 6 seasons. Why don't you ask the coaches how happy they are with that stench of a performance the other night and see if they think it's an issue or not? We go through this every single year, a bunch of fools sit here saying preseason means nothing when the Giants look terrible in it every year and then surprise surprise the season starts and they still look terrible! Sounds like you need a new team. Try the Eagles. They won the Super Bowl last season. Typical d-bag homer reply |
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Post by straightrazorman on Aug 11, 2018 17:59:05 GMT -5
Sounds like you need a new team. Try the Eagles. They won the Super Bowl last season. Typical d-bag homer reply I get it, Ripped. The passion and the disappointment in poor play and a losing season. I was right there where you are long time ago. I've been a Giants fan since 1958 and I've seen the good, the bad and the ugly. I watched the "Miracle at the Meadowlands game at home on a new color tv. Right after the end of that game I destroyed the tv in my fury. I had an epiphany after my wife threatened me with filing divorce papers if I continued that way with the Giants. I realized then that my life did not change one iota whether they won or lost. I can still lose my cool during a bad game (not to that extent, though), but I don't let it ruin my whole week like it used to. When it's over, it's over and on to the next game. I love the Giants, for better or worse and I always will. It is after all entertainment and thats all it is unless you are an inveterate gambler and loose large sums of money. Their poor play or their good play is not a reflection on you. Like me you probably love the team, just don't let it ruin your week if they lose. |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 11, 2018 18:08:09 GMT -5
Sounds like you need a new team. Try the Eagles. They won the Super Bowl last season. Typical d-bag homer reply Pessimistic attitude is fine. They stunk in several areas. We get it. No need for the dbag remark. None at at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 18:25:53 GMT -5
Typical d-bag homer reply Pessimistic attitude is fine. They stunk in several areas. We get it. No need for the dbag remark. None at at all. No need for these people who like to tell you to go root for another team every time you rightfully criticize the Giants either. |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 11, 2018 18:34:04 GMT -5
Pessimistic attitude is fine. They stunk in several areas. We get it. No need for the dbag remark. None at at all. No need for these people who like to tell you to go root for another team every time you rightfully criticize the Giants either. This is true..... I need for that as well. |
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 11, 2018 18:46:57 GMT -5
Pessimistic attitude is fine. They stunk in several areas. We get it. No need for the dbag remark. None at at all. No need for these people who like to tell you to go root for another team every time you rightfully criticize the Giants either. I've never seen you post a single positive thing about this team. Ever. It gets old and tired. Yeah, they've got work to do. So does every other team. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 11, 2018 18:59:19 GMT -5
All good to what the OP said. For me in preseason I look for some flashes. Great routes, good reads, good communication, possible good depth, poise, leadership starting to develope. But you have a roster of 93 so everything gets diluted. Practice, reps, drills, coaching.....it’s all diluted in preseason. Same here And from what I saw it already looks like an improvement from the past few years. How many times did the team not even get a first down until the middle of tbe 2nd quarter because the line was in such dysfunction,and even in a few cases with our first stringers going up against the 2nd stringers? It's a work in progress. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Aug 11, 2018 21:46:07 GMT -5
Pessimistic attitude is fine. They stunk in several areas. We get it. No need for the dbag remark. None at at all. No need for these people who like to tell you to go root for another team every time you rightfully criticize the Giants either.
Rightful criticism is of course subjective. I don't consider your response to our 1st preseason game "rightful".
If you want to come on heavy against our team, you better be able to support your strong words with intelligent commentary or be prepared to be pounced on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 6:21:39 GMT -5
The thing about pre season is they might go into the game with their only intent to work on 2 or three core concepts on O and D.
For example a single route combo like a stick/flat clearout. Run this concept a few times out of some different alignments and then call t a day...Coaches are really only looking at the very basics and evaluating players ability to execute on those core concepts.
Of course they will always hope you see players do well, but at the end of the day there is a very specific and limited outcome they are looking to achieve at this point.
Contrast this with the Browns who had somewhat of a gameplan going into that game (especially on D).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 12:15:25 GMT -5
No need for these people who like to tell you to go root for another team every time you rightfully criticize the Giants either. I've never seen you post a single positive thing about this team. Ever. It gets old and tired. Yeah, they've got work to do. So does every other team. This team has had one decent season and 5 terrible ones the past 6 years what exactly am I supposed to be positive about? I'm telling it like it is and it's not my problem if you live in denial and want to believe I'm wrong and that your own eyes are deceiving you in what you're watching. When there's any reason to be positive I'll start being positive but not if they won't give me one! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 12:18:35 GMT -5
No need for these people who like to tell you to go root for another team every time you rightfully criticize the Giants either.
Rightful criticism is of course subjective. I don't consider your response to our 1st preseason game "rightful".
If you want to come on heavy against our team, you better be able to support your strong words with intelligent commentary or be prepared to be pounced on.
Intelligent commentary? Are you telling me you watched that game and can't come to the conclusion they looked terrible in just about every way possible other than the 1st play of the game? What do I need to INTELLIGENTLY comment about that? Trying to tell me it looked anything other than what I'm stating is what sounds unintelligent or no clue what a football team is supposed to perform like. |
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Yeah brilliant. 
