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Post by TEM on Oct 17, 2018 17:58:29 GMT -5
Unbelievable, BronxBBlue 798.58 PF is 2nd in league scoring and in 11th ! I can't remember ever seeing that in FF On another note: I wanna switch team names with Sarcasm ... lol
No one is more deserving of that name than me!
With Brees on a bye I picked up Eli thinking he was going to be all fired up and coming up big against Philly.
He gave me 7 freaking points.
Meanwhile I had the WR Wilson on the bench and he nails a 40 point day.
I suck at this.
Don't feel bad I left close to 40 between 2 players on my bench.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 21:02:17 GMT -5
Unbelievable, BronxBBlue 798.58 PF is 2nd in league scoring and in 11th ! I can't remember ever seeing that in FF On another note: I wanna switch team names with Sarcasm ... lol Incredible.
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Post by Roosevelt on Oct 20, 2018 12:57:03 GMT -5
I'm basking in the glow of being in the lead over MS while I can.
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 20, 2018 21:59:04 GMT -5
I'm basking in the glow of being in the lead over MS while I can. Well it looks like Gronk is out so you're looking pretty good this week rosie.
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 21, 2018 19:11:04 GMT -5
OK...We have a strange scoring malfunction in this league. If a player fumbles it's charged against him even if it's not recovered by the other team, which I've never seen. But even worse if it IS recovered by the other team, the fumble is charged twice against the player. it's charged as a fumble and also a lost fumble. That has to be a mistake and it's been happening all season.
This really needs to be changed. If a player fumbles and he recovers it, or a teammate recovers it, it should NOT be a negative 2 points. And certainly it shouldn't count as two fumbles in the other team recovers it.
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Post by TEM on Oct 21, 2018 19:15:46 GMT -5
OK...We have a strange scoring malfunction in this league. If a player fumbles it's charged against him even if it's not recovered by the other team, which I've never seen. But even worse if it IS recovered by the other team, the fumble is charged twice against the player. it's charged as a fumble and also a lost fumble. That has to be a mistake and it's been happening all season. This really needs to be changed. If a player fumbles and he recovers it, or a teammate recovers it, it should NOT be a negative 2 points. And certainly it shouldn't count as two fumbles in the other team recovers it. As long as it is the same for the entire league I do not have a problem with it.
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 21, 2018 20:21:32 GMT -5
OK...We have a strange scoring malfunction in this league. If a player fumbles it's charged against him even if it's not recovered by the other team, which I've never seen. But even worse if it IS recovered by the other team, the fumble is charged twice against the player. it's charged as a fumble and also a lost fumble. That has to be a mistake and it's been happening all season. This really needs to be changed. If a player fumbles and he recovers it, or a teammate recovers it, it should NOT be a negative 2 points. And certainly it shouldn't count as two fumbles in the other team recovers it. As long as it is the same for the entire league I do not have a problem with it. I do. It's not legitimate scoring. Might as well say that we should have a TD pass count as 20 points....as long as it's the same for everyone.
That glitch represents a skewed representation of a players performance. Why would you subtract 4 points for a lost fumble?
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 21, 2018 23:28:52 GMT -5
OK...We have a strange scoring malfunction in this league. If a player fumbles it's charged against him even if it's not recovered by the other team, which I've never seen. But even worse if it IS recovered by the other team, the fumble is charged twice against the player. it's charged as a fumble and also a lost fumble. That has to be a mistake and it's been happening all season. This really needs to be changed. If a player fumbles and he recovers it, or a teammate recovers it, it should NOT be a negative 2 points. And certainly it shouldn't count as two fumbles in the other team recovers it. As long as it is the same for the entire league I do not have a problem with it. I agree. I think league scoring changes, unless they are patently unfair are better made in the offseason. If it's the same for everybody, I do not care. I didn't base my draft strategy on that metric. If I had a draft strategy. Which I did not.
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Post by TEM on Oct 22, 2018 6:43:05 GMT -5
As long as it is the same for the entire league I do not have a problem with it. I do. It's not legitimate scoring. Might as well say that we should have a TD pass count as 20 points....as long as it's the same for everyone.
That glitch represents a skewed representation of a players performance. Why would you subtract 4 points for a lost fumble?
That would be fine also . As long as it is the same for all. The points are just a metric for play . It does not matter what the points are . If the player is rewarded for his play . That is all that matters.
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 22, 2018 6:56:19 GMT -5
I do. It's not legitimate scoring. Might as well say that we should have a TD pass count as 20 points....as long as it's the same for everyone.
That glitch represents a skewed representation of a players performance. Why would you subtract 4 points for a lost fumble?
That would be fine also . As long as it is the same for all. The points are just a metric for play . It does not matter what the points are . If the player is rewarded for his play . That is all that matters. My point is that it's a glitch in the scoring. It's a mistake. I'd feel better if it was fixed. It treats a fumble that is lost as two fumbles.
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Post by TEM on Oct 22, 2018 7:00:42 GMT -5
That would be fine also . As long as it is the same for all. The points are just a metric for play . It does not matter what the points are . If the player is rewarded for his play . That is all that matters. My point is that it's a glitch in the scoring. It's a mistake. I'd feel better if it was fixed. It treats a fumble that is lost as two fumbles. It is a fumble -2 If it is recovered by the opposing team an additional -2 It is not a glitch. Here is a link to the league settings football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/161108/settingsIf it was a glitch the 2 would not be defined in the league rules.
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 22, 2018 7:06:05 GMT -5
My point is that it's a glitch in the scoring. It's a mistake. I'd feel better if it was fixed. It treats a fumble that is lost as two fumbles. It is a fumble -2 If it is recovered by the opposing team an additional -2 It is not a glitch. Here is a link to the league settings football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/161108/settingsIf it was a glitch the 2 would not be defined in the league rules. I have never played in a league where a lost fumble counts as a -4. That is ridiculous. I saw the settings. It seems that maybe our guy hit the fumble function thinking it would be a lost fumble, but I can't know. Either way...if you lose a match by a point because your QB drops a ball and picks it up and makes a big play you will be screaming. Why should that be a -2? It has no effect on a game or the payers performance.
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Post by CrushGroove on Oct 22, 2018 10:37:53 GMT -5
I agree with Morehead that it should not be double counted as 1 a fumble and as a Fumble lost. It appears we should have scoring for -2 for Fumble, or -2 for Fumbles Lost.
I caused this issue when I enabled the -2 for fumbles at the beginning of the season. I did so, because I did not see the Fumbles Lost scoring attribute and wanted to ensure that Fumbles were negative scoring. It was not my intent to have a Fumble double charged.
I'd like to change the scoring for -2 for Fumble and disabling the -2 for Fumble Lost.
I know typically scoring changes are made in the offseason, but this is a mistake and unintended results of a setting I made.
However, we are a league and what the league decides go.
1. Do you want to change the Fumbles, Fumbles lost scoring?
2. Should we enable this change for next week and going forward, or correct in next year's season?
Please voice your opinion so we can decide how to move forward.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 22, 2018 12:49:07 GMT -5
I agree that a fumble recovered by their own team should not be a penalty and that it should count as -2 if the other team recovers it. I also think that QBs are being graded too harshly. Mahomes absolutely went off yesterday against me and was only awarded about 29 points. I feel bad for TCHOF because he probably should have won this matchup. That's just my opinion. To stay on the original concern, just take 2 points away for fumbles lost. That is pretty standard.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 22, 2018 12:50:45 GMT -5
I agree with Morehead that it should not be double counted as 1 a fumble and as a Fumble lost. It appears we should have scoring for -2 for Fumble, or -2 for Fumbles Lost. I caused this issue when I enabled the -2 for fumbles at the beginning of the season. I did so, because I did not see the Fumbles Lost scoring attribute and wanted to ensure that Fumbles were negative scoring. It was not my intent to have a Fumble double charged. I'd like to change the scoring for -2 for Fumble and disabling the -2 for Fumble Lost. I know typically scoring changes are made in the offseason, but this is a mistake and unintended results of a setting I made. However, we are a league and what the league decides go. 1. Do you want to change the Fumbles, Fumbles lost scoring? 2. Should we enable this change for next week and going forward, or correct in next year's season? Please voice your opinion so we can decide how to move forward. Fumbles should only be penalized if they result in a turnover.
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 22, 2018 12:56:32 GMT -5
I agree with Morehead that it should not be double counted as 1 a fumble and as a Fumble lost. It appears we should have scoring for -2 for Fumble, or -2 for Fumbles Lost. I caused this issue when I enabled the -2 for fumbles at the beginning of the season. I did so, because I did not see the Fumbles Lost scoring attribute and wanted to ensure that Fumbles were negative scoring. It was not my intent to have a Fumble double charged. I'd like to change the scoring for -2 for Fumble and disabling the -2 for Fumble Lost. I know typically scoring changes are made in the offseason, but this is a mistake and unintended results of a setting I made. However, we are a league and what the league decides go. 1. Do you want to change the Fumbles, Fumbles lost scoring? 2. Should we enable this change for next week and going forward, or correct in next year's season? Please voice your opinion so we can decide how to move forward. I think a fumble lost should be -2. A fumble not lost should have no consequence. I think we should make that change now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 13:12:40 GMT -5
Change it. I think I had an example of this with Beckham’s punt muff...which I don’t even consider a fumble but I digress.
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Post by CrushGroove on Oct 22, 2018 13:52:12 GMT -5
Change it. I think I had an example of this with Beckham’s punt muff...which I don’t even consider a fumble but I digress. I got hit with this a few weeks ago when Big Ben bobbled a snap and quickly recovered and passed the ball. ------------------------------------------------------------- I'll go along with you guys that we want to change it to Fumbles Lost -2, Fumbles will not count as a negative. We've got 4 of the 12, need a couple more members to agree for this mid-season change. Once agreed, the change will be made on Wednesday to effect Week 8 onward. Finally, we can discuss QB adjustments in the off-season. Perhaps we bump up TD's to 5 points? or give .10 points per completion?
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 22, 2018 13:56:11 GMT -5
Change it. I think I had an example of this with Beckham’s punt muff...which I don’t even consider a fumble but I digress. I got hit with this a few weeks ago when Big Ben bobbled a snap and quickly recovered and passed the ball. ------------------------------------------------------------- I'll go along with you guys that we want to change it to Fumbles Lost -2, Fumbles will not count as a negative. We've got 4 of the 12, need a couple more members to agree for this mid-season change. Once agreed, the change will be made on Wednesday to effect Week 8 onward. Finally, we can discuss QB adjustments in the off-season. Perhaps we bump up TD's to 5 points? or give .10 points per completion? Agree with all of that.
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Post by Roosevelt on Oct 22, 2018 14:08:57 GMT -5
OK...We have a strange scoring malfunction in this league. If a player fumbles it's charged against him even if it's not recovered by the other team, which I've never seen. But even worse if it IS recovered by the other team, the fumble is charged twice against the player. it's charged as a fumble and also a lost fumble. That has to be a mistake and it's been happening all season. This really needs to be changed. If a player fumbles and he recovers it, or a teammate recovers it, it should NOT be a negative 2 points. And certainly it shouldn't count as two fumbles in the other team recovers it.
No wonder I'm 0-7!
Whatever the consensus is I'm fine.
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Post by TEM on Oct 22, 2018 18:08:07 GMT -5
I am cool with it the way it is.
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 22, 2018 18:37:29 GMT -5
I am cool with it the way it is. He TEM, he said it was a mistake. Why would you
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Post by TEM on Oct 22, 2018 18:45:53 GMT -5
I am cool with it the way it is. He TEM, he said it was a mistake. Why would you The rules were set from day one. I read them and understood them as I suspect everyone did. Now there is a problem with them 7 weeks into the season? Why did you not question this in week 1? I stand by what I say . At this point IMO: A keep going the way it is . B change it and go back and fix the mistake for all the members. If the rules are changed now and do not go back and correct all the errors and subsequent Win/ lose standings . If that is not done the league is giving an unfair advantage to the teams that are taking advantage to the rule change going forward.
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Post by CrushGroove on Oct 22, 2018 22:51:18 GMT -5
I’m trying to find out if scoring will be retroactively updated. I found a thread that said it would, but i’m seeking additional validation
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 23, 2018 4:49:27 GMT -5
I’m trying to find out if scoring will be retroactively updated. I found a thread that said it would, but i’m seeking additional validation if it is them we need to leave it alone in my opinion.
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Post by CrushGroove on Oct 23, 2018 13:08:50 GMT -5
So far we do not have a majority to change the rule.
However, I contacted Yahoo and they advised they can make the scoring rule retroactive. I've asked if they can make it not retroactive and just going forward, pending their response.
At this point we have three options:
1.Keep the scoring in place. Correct the issue next year. 2. Remove the -2 for Fumbles, this will be in effect for the remainder of the year. 3. Remove the -2 for Fumbles, retroactively update scoring.
Based on what was typed above,
Morehead: Remove the -2 for Fumbles for the rest of the year or Keep scoring in place TEM: Remove the -2 for Fumbles, retroactively update scoring or Keep scoring in place Crushgroove: Remove the -2 for Fumbles, retroactively update scoring or Keep scoring in place Rosie: Indifferent, whatever the consensus is. Sarcasman: Keep scoring in place. TE88: Change it (has not weighed in on retroactive scoring) Billyray: Change it (has not weighed in on retroactive scoring)
We need a few more members to weigh in if we are going to make adjustments.
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 23, 2018 13:11:15 GMT -5
So far we do not have a majority to change the rule. However, I contacted Yahoo and they advised they can make the scoring rule retroactive. I've asked if they can make it not retroactive and just going forward, pending their response. At this point we have three options: 1.Keep the scoring in place. Correct the issue next year. 2. Remove the -2 for Fumbles, this will be in effect for the remainder of the year. 3. Remove the -2 for Fumbles, retroactively update scoring. Based on what was typed above, Morehead: Remove the -2 for Fumbles for the rest of the year or Keep scoring in place TEM: Remove the -2 for Fumbles, retroactively update scoring or Keep scoring in place Crushgroove: Remove the -2 for Fumbles, retroactively update scoring or Keep scoring in place Rosie: Indifferent, whatever the consensus is. Sarcasman: Keep scoring in place. TE88: Change it (has not weighed in on retroactive scoring) Billyray: Change it (has not weighed in on retroactive scoring) We need a few more members to weigh in if we are going to make adjustments. Just want to be clear. I don't think it should be retroactive. It should only be a change from this point on. NOT for past games.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 23, 2018 13:54:03 GMT -5
I recommend that we make the fumble changes going forward and the QB changes for next year.
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 23, 2018 14:18:58 GMT -5
So far we do not have a majority to change the rule. However, I contacted Yahoo and they advised they can make the scoring rule retroactive. I've asked if they can make it not retroactive and just going forward, pending their response. At this point we have three options: 1.Keep the scoring in place. Correct the issue next year. 2. Remove the -2 for Fumbles, this will be in effect for the remainder of the year. 3. Remove the -2 for Fumbles, retroactively update scoring. Based on what was typed above, Morehead: Remove the -2 for Fumbles for the rest of the year or Keep scoring in place TEM: Remove the -2 for Fumbles, retroactively update scoring or Keep scoring in place Crushgroove: Remove the -2 for Fumbles, retroactively update scoring or Keep scoring in place Rosie: Indifferent, whatever the consensus is. Sarcasman: Keep scoring in place. TE88: Change it (has not weighed in on retroactive scoring) Billyray: Change it (has not weighed in on retroactive scoring) We need a few more members to weigh in if we are going to make adjustments. Hey Crush, from my point of view there is only two options. 1 and 3. Option 2 doesn't work for me at all; it is potentially unfair. Do we know - or can we know - what exactly changes once the rule is changed? And can that be reviewed by us before taking the decision?
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Post by CrushGroove on Oct 23, 2018 14:40:32 GMT -5
So far we do not have a majority to change the rule. However, I contacted Yahoo and they advised they can make the scoring rule retroactive. I've asked if they can make it not retroactive and just going forward, pending their response. At this point we have three options: 1.Keep the scoring in place. Correct the issue next year. 2. Remove the -2 for Fumbles, this will be in effect for the remainder of the year. 3. Remove the -2 for Fumbles, retroactively update scoring. Based on what was typed above, Morehead: Remove the -2 for Fumbles for the rest of the year or Keep scoring in place TEM: Remove the -2 for Fumbles, retroactively update scoring or Keep scoring in place Crushgroove: Remove the -2 for Fumbles, retroactively update scoring or Keep scoring in place Rosie: Indifferent, whatever the consensus is. Sarcasman: Keep scoring in place. TE88: Change it (has not weighed in on retroactive scoring) Billyray: Change it (has not weighed in on retroactive scoring) We need a few more members to weigh in if we are going to make adjustments. Hey Crush, from my point of view there is only two options. 1 and 3. Option 2 doesn't work for me at all; it is potentially unfair. Do we know - or can we know - what exactly changes once the rule is changed? And can that be reviewed by us before taking the decision? The only way we would know is going by over each players stats and reviewing them or by going over each starting roster for each week in the past. I don't want to downplay the effect as this is potentially 2, 4, 6, 8, maybe 10 points that a team could possibly recover. As a test, I went into the Player List and exposed All Players. I then sorted by Fumbles Total. There are at least 25 players with more than 3 fumbles this year. This is the Top 5: Kirk Cousins, 7 Total - 5 Lost. Russel Wilson, 7 Total - 1 Lost Deshaun Watson, 7 Total - 2 Lost Alex Smith, 6 Total - 1 Lost Dak Prescott, 6 Total - 3 Lost There are also several that have fumbles, but never lost them: Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff, Case Keenum.
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