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Post by bluebuddha on Oct 27, 2019 15:07:39 GMT -5
Another loss once again a back breaking turnover the difference Plus not capatilizing on turnovers gained by you own offense either.
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Post by GMenNY21 on Oct 27, 2019 15:09:02 GMT -5
Positive is we saw improvement from D Jones. He bounced back from that rough 1st quarter. This loss is strictly on The Defense, Nate “Turnstile”Solder and Shurmur’s lack luster playcalling. Oh and the refs were screwing us all game also
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Post by mj312 on Oct 27, 2019 15:09:42 GMT -5
Can you imagine having an offense that's so boring that it makes saquon barkley look average ? Good thing shurmer is an offensive guro ..
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Post by BlueReign on Oct 27, 2019 15:11:37 GMT -5
Don’t know how you can say that. We were down by 12 when we got a late touchdown. Or for a better word garbage time touchdown. The Giants were competitive the entire game. If they actually call PI we’re down 5 with about 4 minutes to play, with two time outs. That’s before we even take into account the horrific running into the kicker penalty and Rosa’s missed XP. Hardly making the game look good at the end.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 27, 2019 15:12:55 GMT -5
Daniel Jones 28/41 322 yds 4 td’s. We won as far as I’m concerned. And you have to see this in terms of a preseason type game evaluation wise Tomlinson has 2 sacks D line is starting to assert itself. Run defense was sound for the most part Carter had another good game Golden needs to be resigned. Slayton becoming a presence (should have had one PI call help move the ball)
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 27, 2019 15:14:25 GMT -5
We were down by 12 when we got a late touchdown. Or for a better word garbage time touchdown. The Giants were competitive the entire game. If they actually call PI we’re down 5 with about 4 minutes to play, with two time outs. That’s before we even take into account the horrific running into the kicker penalty and Rosa’s missed XP. Hardly making the game look good at the end. Exactly. We are the only team in history where the Lions actually got breaks with the officiating like this ...
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Post by SG88 on Oct 27, 2019 15:18:50 GMT -5
The sad thing about this game is that everything that the giants needed to do IMO in order to win (Barkley getting 25+ touches and Jones playing well) was accomplished and they still lost. I know that it will be minimized, but the Giants should not have been chasing points in the 3rd quarter. They should not have gone for 2 at that point in the game. Failing that attempt threw the entire gameplan in the 4th into chaos. The game would be in OT or the Giants would have a win.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 27, 2019 15:20:22 GMT -5
The Giants were competitive the entire game. If they actually call PI we’re down 5 with about 4 minutes to play, with two time outs. That’s before we even take into account the horrific running into the kicker penalty and Rosa’s missed XP. Hardly making the game look good at the end. Exactly. We are the only team in history where the Lions actually got breaks with the officiating like this ... The officiating was its usual horrible self. I hate them with a passion
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 27, 2019 15:22:48 GMT -5
Exactly. We are the only team in history where the Lions actually got breaks with the officiating like this ... The officiating was its usual horrible self. I hate them with a passion The officiating is making it harder to enjoy games anymore
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Post by fifthavephil on Oct 27, 2019 15:25:12 GMT -5
2-6. A one game improvement over last year 🤡 We still have a chance at Chase Young !
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Post by SG88 on Oct 27, 2019 15:25:32 GMT -5
The officiating was its usual horrible self. I hate them with a passion The officiating is making it harder to enjoy games anymore It just makes you feel like the games are fixed. The players are clearly out there competing, but the officials are out there manipulating the outcomes as much as they can. I still feel that the league intentionally botched the Rams and Saints game to make a splash for an LA team. Sadly, that didn't even work since they had about 5 fans show up for the SB and the Raiders are still running things out this way
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Post by fifthavephil on Oct 27, 2019 15:27:30 GMT -5
Daniel Jones 28/41 322 yds 4 td’s. We won as far as I’m concerned. I like to have you as my Bookie !
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Post by nygfanstrick on Oct 27, 2019 15:30:52 GMT -5
Can you imagine having an offense that's so boring that it makes saquon barkley look average ? Good thing shurmer is an offensive guro .. Saquon had a good game. He was a little thing away from two potential long TDs. He got tripped up by an ankle tackle and then he stumbled on a pass over the middle. More times than not that doesn't happen and Saquon with open field can always take it to the house. I hear what you are saying about the playcalling at times. I'd like a little more creativity, but there was some. Flea flicker was a good call but called back because of Solder (smh). I think those passes over the middle and getting him isolated on guys in the passing game is a big thing they could take advantage of more often
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Post by McCherry on Oct 27, 2019 15:31:10 GMT -5
Daniel Jones 28/41 322 yds 4 td’s. We won as far as I’m concerned. And you have to see this in terms of a preseason type game evaluation wise Tomlinson has 2 sacks D line is starting to assert itself. Run defense was sound for the most part Carter had another good game Golden needs to be resigned. Slayton becoming a presence (should have had one PI call help move the ball) I know why BJ Hill has been quiet, he’s never on the field except for a few run situations. Lawrence/Tomlinson were pretty much 3-down players as the Lions were primarily passing against us.
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Post by allnygin on Oct 27, 2019 15:31:52 GMT -5
Rebuilding is fun right guys? Not really, but it's a lot easier to deal with when it's an offical rebuild like this and not some of the teams that have performed like this in recent past when it wasn't in a rebuild year. Soo thats how I deal with it!
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 27, 2019 15:34:20 GMT -5
Rebuilding is fun right guys? Not really, but it's a lot easier to deal with when it's an offical rebuild like this and not some of the teams that have performed like this in recent past when it wasn't in a rebuild year. Soo thats how I deal with it! Some people want the rebuild to be a 12-4 season.. This is what a legit old school blow everything up and start over rebuild looks like..
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Post by PennState1 on Oct 27, 2019 15:34:28 GMT -5
Barkley doesn't look like the runner we drafted! He’s playing on a bum ankle and, for some reason they keep running him up the middle into a crowd. It’s ok to run up the middle but your line actually has to open some holes which they are not doing.
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Post by allnygin on Oct 27, 2019 15:38:53 GMT -5
Not really, but it's a lot easier to deal with when it's an offical rebuild like this and not some of the teams that have performed like this in recent past when it wasn't in a rebuild year. Soo thats how I deal with it! Some people want the rebuild to be a 12-4 season.. This is what a legit old school blow everything up and start over rebuild looks like.. lol well I want it to be a 12-4 season as well, but thats just unrealistic. Yeah, rebuilds don't look pretty, but despite some of the ugliness I think we've seen some major positives throughout this process. Definitely looking forward to seeing what the progression looks like by the end of the season.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 27, 2019 15:45:05 GMT -5
Barkley doesn't look like the runner we drafted! He’s playing on a bum ankle and, for some reason they keep running him up the middle into a crowd. It’s ok to run up the middle but your line actually has to open some holes which they are not doing. Our running offense is based on RPO inside power/zone. Teams are taking away the middle of the field for run and pass because they don't respect our outside passing game If Slayton starts having more games like today this will start to change. Jet sweeps and misdirection plays would help as well...
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 27, 2019 15:45:53 GMT -5
Some people want the rebuild to be a 12-4 season.. This is what a legit old school blow everything up and start over rebuild looks like.. lol well I want it to be a 12-4 season as well, but thats just unrealistic. Yeah, rebuilds don't look pretty, but despite some of the ugliness I think we've seen some major positives throughout this process. Definitely looking forward to seeing what the progression looks like by the end of the season. We are going to be playing our best football in December I feel (major injuries notwithstanding)
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Post by SG88 on Oct 27, 2019 15:47:10 GMT -5
In case anyone wants to see the refs doing their usual
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Post by SG88 on Oct 27, 2019 15:48:20 GMT -5
They blew this play dead!!!
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Post by PennState1 on Oct 27, 2019 15:48:38 GMT -5
Some people want the rebuild to be a 12-4 season.. This is what a legit old school blow everything up and start over rebuild looks like.. lol well I want it to be a 12-4 season as well, but thats just unrealistic. Yeah, rebuilds don't look pretty, but despite some of the ugliness I think we've seen some major positives throughout this process. Definitely looking forward to seeing what the progression looks like by the end of the season. Exactly
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Post by allnygin on Oct 27, 2019 15:51:19 GMT -5
In case anyone wants to see the refs doing their usual Officiating is becoming a serious problem. Its ruining the sport at the moment. I just can't ever recall a time in my life where its been this bad all the way across the league as consistently as its been, they literally determine wins and losses at this point.
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Post by magilla on Oct 27, 2019 15:56:08 GMT -5
Once again, idiot HC goes for it when the sure FG is there. This imbecile HC and GM need to go. their down 12, math is a real subject in school, snap reactions that fit your narrative though, good one We had enough time left where we could’ve taken the FG just as we had enough time earlier to have taken the extra point instead of going for the failed two point conversion. Once again, you attempt to pigeon hole the situation to fit your nonsense.
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Post by fifthavephil on Oct 27, 2019 15:57:17 GMT -5
He’s playing on a bum ankle and, for some reason they keep running him up the middle into a crowd. It’s ok to run up the middle but your line actually has to open some holes which they are not doing. Our running offense is based on RPO inside power/zone. Teams are taking away the middle of the field for run and pass because they don't respect our outside passing game If Slayton starts having more games like today this will start to change. Jet sweeps and misdirection plays would help as well... Detroit's Jared (LB) Davis, was unblockable. Barkley and Engram, was outman on Davis. Also, whenever Barkley is in the backfield, defense focus on him. I would like to see, Barkley flank out more often, with Gallman or Penny at RB.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 27, 2019 15:58:55 GMT -5
In case anyone wants to see the refs doing their usual Officiating is becoming a serious problem. Its ruining the sport at the moment. I just can't ever recall a time in my life where its been this bad all the way across the league as consistently as its been, they literally determine wins and losses at this point. Making the league unwatched
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 27, 2019 15:59:05 GMT -5
The officiating is making it harder to enjoy games anymore It just makes you feel like the games are fixed. The players are clearly out there competing, but the officials are out there manipulating the outcomes as much as they can. I still feel that the league intentionally botched the Rams and Saints game to make a splash for an LA team. Sadly, that didn't even work since they had about 5 fans show up for the SB and the Raiders are still running things out this way I really can't buy the whole Saints martyrdom thing, there's just far too much evidence to the contrary. They manage to consistently play their way out of huge games and then whine and cry about it to the league. They lost that game last year, it wasn't taken from them.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 27, 2019 16:03:50 GMT -5
Our running offense is based on RPO inside power/zone. Teams are taking away the middle of the field for run and pass because they don't respect our outside passing game If Slayton starts having more games like today this will start to change. Jet sweeps and misdirection plays would help as well... Detroit's Jared (LB) Davis, was unblockable. Barkley and Engram, was outman on Davis. Also, whenever Barkley is in the backfield, defense focus on him. I would like to see, Barkley flank out more often, with Gallman or Penny at RB. They showed a new formation today with Penny in front of Barkley in shotgun.Had some success with it. Add to it next week moving Jones up even with Penny in the pistol..then motion Barkley out. I still say until they can consistently show they can exploit the deep outside of defenses its going to be tough inside Next week actually is a very good matchup for us as Dallas stubbornly stays in a Tampa 2 deep no matter what,and as the Saints showed running right at then inside after spreading them out is how you exploit then and they leave the underneath open.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 27, 2019 16:36:38 GMT -5
Detroit's Jared (LB) Davis, was unblockable. Barkley and Engram, was outman on Davis. Also, whenever Barkley is in the backfield, defense focus on him. I would like to see, Barkley flank out more often, with Gallman or Penny at RB. They showed a new formation today with Penny in front of Barkley in shotgun.Had some success with it. Add to it next week moving Jones up even with Penny in the pistol..then motion Barkley out. I still say until they can consistently show they can exploit the deep outside of defenses its going to be tough inside Next week actually is a very good matchup for us as Dallas stubbornly stays in a Tampa 2 deep no matter what,and as the Saints showed running right at then inside after spreading them out is how you exploit then and they leave the underneath open. You need an offensive line that can handle the cowboys front 4. We don't have it.
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