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Post by giantsforce on Nov 4, 2019 23:43:38 GMT -5
This is something that some of us have realized a long long time. However, the so called "experts" and "die hard fans" are in denial. Yeah let's keep Shurmur another year because 2 years of mediocrity is not enough! well to be fair a revolving door at HC isn't optimial either I could understand giving the guy some time, but he's ran out of that fast. It is what it is at this point. The mistake was hiring him in the first place. Now the mistake is keeping him while the loses pile up. They can give him as much time as they want, he will not get any better. revolving doors happen when you are not hiring the right people to begin with. Why on earth would anyone hire Mcadoo as a HC? or Shurmur for that matter?
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Post by Eazy E on Nov 4, 2019 23:45:46 GMT -5
Hernandez is a true Giant. He is protecting his QB, standing up for his teamates. As a coach, I would love to start with that guy right there. He is a freaking leader. Saquan is a leader. Thats your building blocks. We need more like them. This coach is garbage, we need a leader. This performance was absolutely pathetic. Embarrassing. We are not better today than the first game last season.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 4, 2019 23:46:05 GMT -5
Was looking for an 7-8 win year and we are going to fall way short of that. We might not even match the 5 from last year. At this point there's nothing to hope for other than a couple of players that aren't yet here transforming both sides to the ball, the way Nick Bosa did for the niners this year. I keep telling you guys we won 5 last year because we played 4 backup QBs of those 5. We were much worse last year than the record indicated. And we should be 1-8 right now if not for the Bucs kicker.
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Post by soflo on Nov 4, 2019 23:46:13 GMT -5
What's even sadder about this year is that there's so many 1 and 2-win teams that we aren't even a lock for a top 5 pick yet. I see us at best a 5 win team. Phins Jets Skins. That would probably get us to 8-9 in the draft. Need to go 2-14 to get a top 3. Honestly, even if that's the angle we're looking to play, does it ever make that much of an impact once the season starts and teams figure out what they have? The bad teams often prove that they can't pick the best players when they got a top 5 anyway. Seattle picked DK Metcalf later in the draft who everyone thought would be another Heyward-Bey and he's already got 5 TDs and over 500 yards. It doesn't come down to draft position. The GM just needs to have a plan and an eye for talent.
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Post by giantsforce on Nov 4, 2019 23:46:28 GMT -5
What's even sadder about this year is that there's so many 1 and 2-win teams that we aren't even a lock for a top 5 pick yet. I see us at best a 5 win team. Phins Jets Skins. That would probably get us to 8-9 in the draft. Need to go 2-14 to get a top 3. I can tell you right now those are not gimmie games just like the Cards game was not. This coaching staff is not capable of putting a game winning plan together and the players we have are not capable of winning too many games.
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Post by allnygin on Nov 4, 2019 23:46:32 GMT -5
well to be fair a revolving door at HC isn't optimial either I could understand giving the guy some time, but he's ran out of that fast. It is what it is at this point. The mistake was hiring him in the first place. Now the mistake is keeping him while the loses pile up. They can give him as much time as they want, he will not get any better. revolving doors happen when you are not hiring the right people to begin with. Why on earth would anyone hire Mcadoo as a HC? or Shurmur for that matter? Exactly, the failures over the years have started at the top with the ones making these decisions. That's the root of this issue.
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Post by krappdetector on Nov 4, 2019 23:49:13 GMT -5
Was looking for an 7-8 win year and we are going to fall way short of that. We might not even match the 5 from last year. At this point there's nothing to hope for other than a couple of players that aren't yet here transforming both sides to the ball, the way Nick Bosa did for the niners this year. Giants don't waste picks on edge rushers.
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Post by giantsforce on Nov 4, 2019 23:51:27 GMT -5
The mistake was hiring him in the first place. Now the mistake is keeping him while the loses pile up. They can give him as much time as they want, he will not get any better. revolving doors happen when you are not hiring the right people to begin with. Why on earth would anyone hire Mcadoo as a HC? or Shurmur for that matter? Exactly, the failures over the years have started at the top with the ones making these decisions. That's the root of this issue. Have been saying that since the first game after the SB when we could not defend our crown in our own house against Dallas. Sadly, I was right and the suffering continues to the point where a win is an unexpected result. I say this now too: If they keep Shurmur and his coaching staff, next year this time we will be having the same conversation again.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 4, 2019 23:57:48 GMT -5
All I got is it's my birthday 11/4 they better show up. Mine too. Big 50. 58 still poor lifting even tho no where near elite but still doing it coming off a major injury.
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Post by krappdetector on Nov 4, 2019 23:58:18 GMT -5
Shurmur post-game:.. 'We didn't do enough to win the game'. No shit, Sherlock. They say the same thing over and over and over.. with a straight face. Why do they continue these idiotic, nonsense pressers? They're almost as bad as the games.
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Post by slyfoxx on Nov 5, 2019 0:56:34 GMT -5
I thought it went quite well. And yes pressers are about useless win or lose.
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Post by babybulls on Nov 5, 2019 0:58:32 GMT -5
but half the stadium are cowboys fans That’s actually not true, while plenty of Cowboy fans there, much less than in past years. Now to the game OL was horrible, Jones missed two open red zone td’s, one to Engram and the other to Gallman. Oh, and that BS, PI call was a back breaker. At least I was fairly easy getting out of the parking lot
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Post by shocknaweny on Nov 8, 2019 10:46:50 GMT -5
I have never been this fed up. All of this losing year after year, no ****ING IMPROVMENT EVER. I'm honestly wondering how much more I can take lol. A couple more seasons of this bs and I may take up college football haha. You should already be watching NCAA ball it's great !!!
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