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Post by Blue Hulk on Nov 11, 2019 14:33:25 GMT -5
Yeah, the trade deadline has passed but here is an interesting thought. Trade Barkley because he's not good enough to overcome a bad OL....
I don't recall Barry Sanders having great OL and I recall him routinely turning nothing into something. Barkley did that rookie season and now I see it less and less each game. I see no difference when Wayne Gallman was on the field than when Barkley was on the field.
If we aren't going to change the coaching staff, then move Barkley while he still has first round value.
He is too good for this crap show. This is not about giving up on Barkley, it's about giving up on Shurmur....just to be clear.
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 11, 2019 14:39:44 GMT -5
I would trade Barkley straight up for Jamal Adams.
Now before the Barkley fanatics come out with there pitchforks and torches, this isn't anything towards Barkley the player. I feel Adams play at safety would impact the game more so than Barkley at running back.
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Post by southerner on Nov 11, 2019 14:40:10 GMT -5
Yeah, the trade deadline has passed but here is an interesting thought. Trade Barkley because he's not good enough to overcome a bad OL.... I don't recall Barry Sanders having great OL and I recall him routinely turning nothing into something. Barkley did that rookie season and now I see it less and less each game. I see no difference when Wayne Gallman was on the field than when Barkley was on the field. If we aren't going to change the coaching staff, then move Barkley while he still has first round value. He is too good for this crap show. This is not about giving up on Barkley, it's about giving up on Shurmur....just to be clear. You will never get first round value for Barkley now.....unless it is very late first round value. The rest of the league has seen what we all have and they certainly know Saquon isn’t performing like a top ranked RB right now. I do agree with you that the Giants lose nothing putting Gallman in for Barkley. In fact Gallman is the far superior pass and blitz pick-up blocker. |
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Post by southerner on Nov 11, 2019 14:44:19 GMT -5
I would trade Barkley straight up for Jamal Adams. Now before the Barkley fanatics come out with there pitchforks and torches, this isn't anything towards Barkley the player. I feel Adams play at safety would impact the game more so than Barkley at running back. Well, it is obvious the Giants are not using Barkley correctly, whether that is by design or ignorance, but Adams should be around a lot longer and the Giants could definitely use him at safety. For what the Giants get out of Barkley, they can easily get out of Gallman, or another RB they might draft in the 3rd or 4th round in 2020. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Nov 11, 2019 14:58:07 GMT -5
Even the great Barry Sanders lost his desire and he accomplished far more than Barkley. I feel bad for Barkley and this is PRECISELY the reason I didn't want him drafted in the first place. Barkley is a luxury item.....
Drafting Barkley is like being homeless and going shopping for a King sized bed. The bed is nice and comfortable, but it looks real crappy when you're sleeping in a back alley.
Barkley is a win now pick.....We need pieces to grow along side Jones. Now if we have a plan to address the OL, then keep him, if not, set him free.
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Post by Roswell on Nov 11, 2019 15:02:20 GMT -5
This is hot take city man.
Just fix the Oline.
Done.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 11, 2019 15:03:24 GMT -5
This is hot take city man. Fix the Oline. Done. Yep |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 11, 2019 15:22:32 GMT -5
This is hot take city man. Just fix the Oline. Done. What is this, year 7 we are trying now? |
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 11, 2019 15:28:59 GMT -5
Some of you guys are funny, Barkley is in his second season and you guys are pissed he isnt Barry Sanders.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 11, 2019 15:30:58 GMT -5
Some of you guys are funny, Barkley is in his second season and you guys are pissed he isnt Barry Sanders. Reminds me a lot of Gurley's 2nd season |
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Post by southerner on Nov 11, 2019 15:34:06 GMT -5
Some of you guys are funny, Barkley is in his second season and you guys are pissed he isnt Barry Sanders. Not exactly. What concerns everybody is that he blocks and runs like Bernie Sanders. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 11, 2019 15:50:02 GMT -5
This is hot take city man. Just fix the Oline. Done. Freaking battlestar dramatic com the #$@% down. |
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 11, 2019 15:52:00 GMT -5
Some of you guys are funny, Barkley is in his second season and you guys are pissed he isnt Barry Sanders. Not exactly. What concerns everybody is that he blocks and runs like Bernie Sanders. Dont bring Bernie into it |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 11, 2019 15:53:10 GMT -5
Some of you guys are funny, Barkley is in his second season and you guys are pissed he isnt Barry Sanders. Reminds me a lot of Gurley's 2nd season God it's not complicated, He is not 100% and the OL hasn't been since about week 4 think this break will do them all good would like to see Gates get his shot to unseat Remmers tho, RB and OL hurting = disaster |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Nov 11, 2019 15:56:08 GMT -5
This is hot take city man. Just fix the Oline. Done. You fix the OL then any Tom Dick and Harry can get 100 yards.... ask Phillip Lindsey. Ask James Conner, ask Jordan Howard. Running back is a bad investment and that has not changed one bit since the 90's |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Nov 11, 2019 15:57:09 GMT -5
This is hot take city man. Just fix the Oline. Done. What is this, year 7 we are trying now? They don't hear you though. |
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Post by McCherry on Nov 11, 2019 16:04:12 GMT -5
If we could get a late first, even and early second, Giant fans should be doing backflips. The pick is worth more to this team than the player.
Fix the OL and get a RB who can pass block.
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 11, 2019 16:13:36 GMT -5
The fact that there are posters here who actually want this team to be the new Browns or Redskins is very amusing and it does lead to question their football intelligence There are also people here who wanted to extend Eli through 2020. It takes all types to make a message board! |
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 11, 2019 16:14:48 GMT -5
If we could get a late first, even and early second, Giant fans should be doing backflips. The pick is worth more to this team than the player. Fix the OL and get a RB who can pass block. Man, the level of stupidity on these boards has reached an all-time high.
For Pete's sake, some of you need to get a grip on yourselves
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Post by southerner on Nov 11, 2019 16:22:41 GMT -5
If we could get a late first, even and early second, Giant fans should be doing backflips. The pick is worth more to this team than the player. Fix the OL and get a RB who can pass block. The fact that the Giants drafted a RB with the second pick of the draft that they knew was a lousy pass blocker is infuriating. Barkley isn’t even a 3 down back. That pick looks “Ron Dayneish” now. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Nov 11, 2019 16:31:23 GMT -5
The fact that there are posters here who actually want this team to be the new Browns or Redskins is very amusing and it does lead to question their football intelligence Not all the posters wanted Barkley. I would say it was close to an even split and none of it had to do with his talent. We now have a franchise QB and someone to build around. If Barkley is not averaging more than 4.5 yards a carry by draft deadline next year, then move him... simple as that. His destiny is in his own hands. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Nov 11, 2019 16:32:30 GMT -5
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Post by snyder55 on Nov 11, 2019 16:42:26 GMT -5
Yeah, the trade deadline has passed but here is an interesting thought. Trade Barkley because he's not good enough to overcome a bad OL.... I don't recall Barry Sanders having great OL and I recall him routinely turning nothing into something. Barkley did that rookie season and now I see it less and less each game. I see no difference when Wayne Gallman was on the field than when Barkley was on the field. If we aren't going to change the coaching staff, then move Barkley while he still has first round value. He is too good for this crap show. This is not about giving up on Barkley, it's about giving up on Shurmur....just to be clear. maybe all we need is to find a HC who nows how to use Barkleys obvious talent.. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 16:51:07 GMT -5
Doesn’t look like Barkley’s recovered fully. Maybe pull him so he can fully heal and put in the backup.
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Post by snyder55 on Nov 11, 2019 16:57:26 GMT -5
maybe all we need is to find a HC who nows how to use Barkleys obvious talent.. He used them last year, correct? yes he did but he damned sure isn't using his talent the right way this year, if Barkley is hurt then he should be shut down because right now he is a liability on the field..personally I think Shurmur would help to save his job if he handed over the play calling to someone else.. |
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Post by snyder55 on Nov 11, 2019 17:00:23 GMT -5
This is hot take city man. Just fix the Oline. Done. that's obviously easier said than done, unless we just don't have the right people to fix it... |
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Post by PennState1 on Nov 11, 2019 17:01:43 GMT -5
If we could get a late first, even and early second, Giant fans should be doing backflips. The pick is worth more to this team than the player. Fix the OL and get a RB who can pass block. Man, the level of stupidity on these boards has reached an all-time high.
For Pete's sake, some of you need to get a grip on yourselves
It’s Beyond ridiculous. This happened to Barkley at PSU when he had a high ankle sprain and returned too soon. It was 4-5 weeks of lack of explosiveness and lack of base strength resulting in difficulty picking up the blitz. Dude is playing hurt. He would never admit it due to his competitive nature and desire to lead but he cryptically admitted it when he said all NFL players play through things at this stage in the season. Why is this so hard to see? Running him up the middle with no holes is a great way to make sure he doesn’t heal up. This season can’t end fast enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 17:02:10 GMT -5
Not all the posters wanted Barkley. I would say it was close to an even split and none of it had to do with his talent. We now have a franchise QB and someone to build around. If Barkley is not averaging more than 4.5 yards a carry by draft deadline next year, then move him... simple as that. His destiny is in his own hands. LOL, you're kidding? I was one and admitted to it and he proved me wrong. What's hysterical here are the amount of posters who have never been wrong on a pick or a call or forcast. I said from day one I wanted an all defensive draft and let Eli take this year and get a QB from next year but I also said I understand the need and if and only if they thought they had the next franchise QB I would understand it, they did and I do and I like Jones.Barkley wins ROH and a year later we have people questioning the pick after he has a high ankle sprain. Seriously you can't make this stuff up add in we dump on a HC that was left a shit show and a New GM that has to clean that shit show up and he has a rookie QB with a rookie WR and three back up linemen in front of him and still throws 4 TD's with no run game but yes let's trade everyone and become Cleveland for thirty some odd years. 
Definitely the text book definition of a hot take thread.Those 4 TD came against the Jets as well as the three fumbles. If the opportunity is there to draft Tua, then it’s ridiculous to not draft him. |
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Post by snyder55 on Nov 11, 2019 17:05:32 GMT -5
Man, the level of stupidity on these boards has reached an all-time high.
For Pete's sake, some of you need to get a grip on yourselves
It’s Beyond ridiculous. This happened to Barkley at PSU when he had a high ankle sprain and returned too soon. It was 4-5 weeks of lack of explosiveness and lack of base strength resulting in difficulty picking up the blitz. Dude is playing hurt. He would never admit it due to his competitive nature and desire to lead but he cryptically admitted it when he said all NFL players play through things at this stage in the season. Why is this so hard to see? Running him up the middle with no holes is a great way to make sure he doesn’t heal up. This season can’t end fast enough. there is obviously something physically wrong with Barkley and these coaches and the team doctor should just shut him down before he does serious damage, watching him play against the Jets was pathetic... |
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Post by PennState1 on Nov 11, 2019 17:08:01 GMT -5
Fantasy team blow back?
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