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Post by giantsback2020 on Nov 26, 2019 15:06:39 GMT -5
I’d trade Barkley for Chubb absolutely. Chubb is a better running back, he runs forward. His line is worse than the Giants line and he’s 6 yards off the rushing title. I’d also trade Barkley for a round 1 pick I’d also not have taken Barkley at # 2 unless someone was holding me at gunpoint forcing me to do so Your answer is very telling about your agenda. I don’t have an agenda other than wanting to be a fan of a good football team. That requires a good GM, DG is a bad GM in my opinion. It’s not just Barkley. It’s Solder, it’s ignoring OT in 2 drafts, its keeping Eli Manning at !23 million, it’s trading valuable draft assets for a derivative of BJ Hill who is set to be a FA and will want big money, it’s wasting a round 4 on Lauletta when the need was a franchise QB to groom. The results of this team aren’t an agenda, they are just garbage.
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Post by trueblueatnyc on Nov 26, 2019 15:14:14 GMT -5
You're the one who chose to compare the Giants those two organizations. Don't get mad when the full range of facts don't add up to the narrative that you want to convey. Again, the Browns are a bad team. Are you really harping on them having 3 more wins than this team? Also, by your same logic, the 49ers should have ousted Kyler Shannahan after two years, afterall, his first year they went 6-10 and then they got worse at 4-12 the following year. Like, what the hell do you think a rebuild looks like? Kyle Shanahan lost his QB in year 2. They looked very good in year 1 after the Jimmy G trade. Just stop the nonsense. The Browns have 12 wins and and tie under their new GM coming off 0-16. The Giants have 7 wins and this deficit will grow over the final 5 games. Gettleman and Shurmur have been the worst GM/HC lairimginb innthe league over the last 2 years. Lynch/Shanahan is an elite pairing. Lol @ the Niners comparison. LOL, so the elite Lynch/Shannahan can have two terrible losing seasons and deserve a third season, but DG and Shurmer must be fired after two years. Browns have 12 wins, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS! That's hardly a "great" turnaround, especially with the expectations they had this year.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 26, 2019 15:15:54 GMT -5
OP just called Barkley David Wilson discreetly Wait a few days His hot takes will really become comical which will lead to him insulting half the board
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 26, 2019 15:17:45 GMT -5
As for details throwing record aside here are issues I have with DG: OT - barren Pass rush - barren QB - being prematurely elevated to construct a narrative. He’s not good, he’s flashed good aspects largely against really bad teams. Titans the ball over way too much Trades: a 4 for Ogletree, a 3 and a 4 for Williams who is a FA, self admittedly dealt OBJ without “marketing” him around the league The nucleus pieces of this team that are proven are solid weapons on offense, 2 OGs and a mediocre front 3. Every other area of the team is bad. Glaring weaknesses are the back 8 on D, OT, and C DG has prioritized the exact opposite of what I want to see prioritized. It’s a passing league, he’s prioritized run assets. I have a fairly good idea of who you are....you wanted Darnold over Barkley last year no? I'm wondering which previously banned member or sock puppet this is,but his hot takes and posting patterns are pretty easy to figure out who it is
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Post by trueblueatnyc on Nov 26, 2019 15:21:24 GMT -5
You're the one who chose to compare the Giants those two organizations. Don't get mad when the full range of facts don't add up to the narrative that you want to convey. Again, the Browns are a bad team. Are you really harping on them having 3 more wins than this team? Also, by your same logic, the 49ers should have ousted Kyler Shannahan after two years, afterall, his first year they went 6-10 and then they got worse at 4-12 the following year. Like, what the hell do you think a rebuild looks like? Lol at this response. Niners - dealt for Jimmy G during year 1 and looked excellent with him, lost him to injury year 2. Have we lost a starting QB I’m unaware of? Browns - were coming off 0-16 when their GM was hired at the same time as our GM. They’ve won 12 games with a tie, we have won 7. They’ll finish 9-7, we will finish between 2-14 and 4-12 to further that gap. Raiders - 6-5 Our GM has not solved building block positions ie pass rusher, offensive tackles, cornerback, safety. His line guy to hang his hat in right now is the QB flashing some good with some awful. His job is the overall roster and it stinks. Our present and immediate future are ugly. They’ll F up getting Chase Young guaranteed in their latest blunder. Stacking bad decisions is not a rebuild. LOL at you using predictive stats to try and help solve the fact that the Browns are indeed terrible and have been in disarray. They "could" go 9-7, they could also go 7-9 in a year they were supposed to compete. You keep praising their current GM, that's nice, he inherited a team with 100 million in cap space and 5 first round picks thanks to their previous GM that was willing to tear it down and trade away assets to build for the future. He took all those resources and so far has built a team that wont make the playoffs. Hooray for the Browns! That's what every team shoots for! Comparatively, DG inherited a team that was over the cap with an aging QB, had fewer draft picks and a bunch of malcontents on his roster. The dude hasn't been perfect, but the fact is that we are going into the 2020 offseason, as a franchise, in much better shape to improve, than we were going into 2018.
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Post by thetruth on Nov 26, 2019 15:28:39 GMT -5
Lol at this response. Niners - dealt for Jimmy G during year 1 and looked excellent with him, lost him to injury year 2. Have we lost a starting QB I’m unaware of? Browns - were coming off 0-16 when their GM was hired at the same time as our GM. They’ve won 12 games with a tie, we have won 7. They’ll finish 9-7, we will finish between 2-14 and 4-12 to further that gap. Raiders - 6-5 Our GM has not solved building block positions ie pass rusher, offensive tackles, cornerback, safety. His line guy to hang his hat in right now is the QB flashing some good with some awful. His job is the overall roster and it stinks. Our present and immediate future are ugly. They’ll F up getting Chase Young guaranteed in their latest blunder. Stacking bad decisions is not a rebuild. LOL at you using predictive stats to try and help solve the fact that the Browns are indeed terrible and have been in disarray. They "could" go 9-7, they could also go 7-9 in a year they were supposed to compete. You keep praising their current GM, that's nice, he inherited a team with 100 million in cap space and 5 first round picks thanks to their previous GM that was willing to tear it down and trade away assets to build for the future. He took all those resources and so far has built a team that wont make the playoffs. Hooray for the Browns! That's what every team shoots for! Comparatively, DG inherited a team that was over the cap with an aging QB, had fewer draft picks and a bunch of malcontents on his roster. The dude hasn't been perfect, but the fact is that we are going into the 2020 offseason, as a franchise, in much better shape to improve, than we were going into 2018. Wait a second. I see a bunch of you are giving this giantsback2020 dude a hard time but what is he saying thats incorrect? It remains to be seen how Browns will do compared to the Giants in terms of roster construction. However, at least Dorsey understands the importance of having skill at premium positions. Gettlemen has no such clue, his love for "Hog Mollies" hasn't done anything for the roster. The Browns inherited cap space? Well, Gettlemen created it by eliminating the little talent that was on the roster but cutting them and taking massive cap penalties. The man does not know how to manage the cap at all. Dont we think reinvesting Eli's $23MM cap hit this year to the defense would have... you know, helped? Lastly, have we seen Gettlemen's track record in free agency? why do you think cap space will even help? the man is a lousy scout based on his FA history. Im glad the scouts help him in our drafts, we'd be in trouble otherwise.
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Post by thetruth on Nov 26, 2019 15:29:48 GMT -5
Kyle Shanahan lost his QB in year 2. They looked very good in year 1 after the Jimmy G trade. Just stop the nonsense. The Browns have 12 wins and and tie under their new GM coming off 0-16. The Giants have 7 wins and this deficit will grow over the final 5 games. Gettleman and Shurmur have been the worst GM/HC lairimginb innthe league over the last 2 years. Lynch/Shanahan is an elite pairing. Lol @ the Niners comparison. LOL, so the elite Lynch/Shannahan can have two terrible losing seasons and deserve a third season, but DG and Shurmer must be fired after two years. Browns have 12 wins, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS! That's hardly a "great" turnaround, especially with the expectations they had this year. Must be nice to have expectations for your team. You cant talk shit about the Browns not having a "Great" turnaround, but how do you explain the fact that under DG, we've had the worst record in the NFL. We're literally regressing. How many years until we start holding the GM accountable for his roster?
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Post by TEM on Nov 26, 2019 15:31:31 GMT -5
The humor is . You dismiss a big portion of the whole picture when constructing a narrative. If you want the details I will comply. It will only make you stance look more incoherent. As for details throwing record aside here are issues I have with DG: OT - barren Pass rush - barren QB - being prematurely elevated to construct a narrative. He’s not good, he’s flashed good aspects largely against really bad teams. Titans the ball over way too much Trades: a 4 for Ogletree, a 3 and a 4 for Williams who is a FA, self admittedly dealt OBJ without “marketing” him around the league The nucleus pieces of this team that are proven are solid weapons on offense, 2 OGs and a mediocre front 3. Every other area of the team is bad. Glaring weaknesses are the back 8 on D, OT, and C DG has prioritized the exact opposite of what I want to see prioritized. It’s a passing league, he’s prioritized run assets. All part of the rebuild process.
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Post by thetruth on Nov 26, 2019 15:31:59 GMT -5
Your answer is very telling about your agenda. I don’t have an agenda other than wanting to be a fan of a good football team. That requires a good GM, DG is a bad GM in my opinion. It’s not just Barkley. It’s Solder, it’s ignoring OT in 2 drafts, its keeping Eli Manning at !23 million, it’s trading valuable draft assets for a derivative of BJ Hill who is set to be a FA and will want big money, it’s wasting a round 4 on Lauletta when the need was a franchise QB to groom. The results of this team aren’t an agenda, they are just garbage. Fans dont want to accept the fact their GM doesn't really know what he's doing. That is why people are giving you a hard time. Come back in a few years and most of them will have come around.
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Post by thetruth on Nov 26, 2019 15:40:37 GMT -5
Only according to you and a few others. NFL GMs do not operate on Fan's or Talking Head's opinions. If those 2 groups are so correct. Why is it they never become GMs. I will tell you why . When by chance one of them does get a chance to be interview ( Riddick), The interviewers have to ware depends so they protect their pants from P### themselves from the continuous laughing. Actual people working on front offices probably read their team's forums to all point and laugh at people like the one who you just responded to as daily entertainment Well. If Gettlemen ever laughed at people like me I would ask him which tapes he used to scout the following players: - J. Stewart - Omameh - Halapio - N. Soldier - A. Ogletree (traded a 4th and a 6th) - M. Remmers - K. Martin - Matt Kalil (CAR) (gave him $50M!!) - D Funchess (CAR) (traded a 3rd and a 6th) - Andy Lee (CAR) (4th rounder for.....a.... punter....) off the top of my head. I've heard rumours his resume is fantastic but.. for some reason im unable to find evidence to support such claims And lastly, Id ask him what Mike Shula has on him.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 26, 2019 15:43:01 GMT -5
Actual people working on front offices probably read their team's forums to all point and laugh at people like the one who you just responded to as daily entertainment Well. If Gettlemen ever laughed at people like me I would ask him which tapes he used to scout the following players: - J. Stewart - Omameh - Halapio - N. Soldier - A. Ogletree (traded a 4th and a 6th) - M. Remmers - K. Martin - Matt Kalil (CAR) (gave him $50M!!) - D Funchess (CAR) (traded a 3rd and a 6th) - Andy Lee (CAR) (4th rounder for.....a.... punter....) off the top of my head. I've heard rumours his resume is fantastic but.. for some reason im unable to find evidence to support such claims And lastly, Id ask him what Mike Shula has on him. So Carl Are you the sock puppet or the profile you are vehemently defending? Yes we are laughing at you
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Post by TEM on Nov 26, 2019 15:52:45 GMT -5
Actual people working on front offices probably read their team's forums to all point and laugh at people like the one who you just responded to as daily entertainment Well. If Gettlemen ever laughed at people like me I would ask him which tapes he used to scout the following players: - J. Stewart - Omameh - Halapio - N. Soldier - A. Ogletree (traded a 4th and a 6th) - M. Remmers - K. Martin - Matt Kalil (CAR) (gave him $50M!!) - D Funchess (CAR) (traded a 3rd and a 6th) - Andy Lee (CAR) (4th rounder for.....a.... punter....) off the top of my head. I've heard rumours his resume is fantastic but.. for some reason im unable to find evidence to support such claims And lastly, Id ask him what Mike Shula has on him. It would go more like this Carl His response would be quite simple. How may SB teams were you the GM of ? How many times did the team you were the GM of make it to the playoffs? Then your cricket response "chirp chirp chirp" followed by a puzzled look on your face. At that point. He would walk away with a Yep I didn't think so.
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Post by Speedman on Nov 26, 2019 15:57:22 GMT -5
Your answer is very telling about your agenda. I don’t have an agenda other than wanting to be a fan of a good football team. That requires a good GM, DG is a bad GM in my opinion. It’s not just Barkley. It’s Solder, it’s ignoring OT in 2 drafts, its keeping Eli Manning at !23 million, it’s trading valuable draft assets for a derivative of BJ Hill who is set to be a FA and will want big money, it’s wasting a round 4 on Lauletta when the need was a franchise QB to groom. The results of this team aren’t an agenda, they are just garbage. Not taking Barkley at 2 is your agenda.
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 26, 2019 16:31:15 GMT -5
The humor is . You dismiss a big portion of the whole picture when constructing a narrative. If you want the details I will comply. It will only make you stance look more incoherent. As for details throwing record aside here are issues I have with DG: OT - barren Pass rush - barren QB - being prematurely elevated to construct a narrative. He’s not good, he’s flashed good aspects largely against really bad teams. Titans the ball over way too much Trades: a 4 for Ogletree, a 3 and a 4 for Williams who is a FA, self admittedly dealt OBJ without “marketing” him around the league The nucleus pieces of this team that are proven are solid weapons on offense, 2 OGs and a mediocre front 3. Every other area of the team is bad. Glaring weaknesses are the back 8 on D, OT, and C DG has prioritized the exact opposite of what I want to see prioritized. It’s a passing league, he’s prioritized run assets. Completely disagree on Jones, and I am no Gettleman fan nor was I fan of the pick.
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Post by giantsback2020 on Nov 26, 2019 16:49:07 GMT -5
As for details throwing record aside here are issues I have with DG: OT - barren Pass rush - barren QB - being prematurely elevated to construct a narrative. He’s not good, he’s flashed good aspects largely against really bad teams. Titans the ball over way too much Trades: a 4 for Ogletree, a 3 and a 4 for Williams who is a FA, self admittedly dealt OBJ without “marketing” him around the league The nucleus pieces of this team that are proven are solid weapons on offense, 2 OGs and a mediocre front 3. Every other area of the team is bad. Glaring weaknesses are the back 8 on D, OT, and C DG has prioritized the exact opposite of what I want to see prioritized. It’s a passing league, he’s prioritized run assets. Completely disagree on Jones, and I am no Gettleman fan nor was I fan of the pick. I don’t know what there is to disagree on with Jones. All I’m saying is he isn’t good yet. Can he be good? Yes. Based on what I’ve seen he’s definitely an NFL starter long-term. I think there is as much a chance he falls into the average category as he does the good category. He’s flashed ability. I like his ability to run. He’s made some nice throws. He’s tough. All that said a 1:1 TD:Turnover ratio is not very good. There are young QBs doing better in that aspect. Jackson is going to win MVP and they are the same age.
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Post by giantsback2020 on Nov 26, 2019 16:51:14 GMT -5
I don’t have an agenda other than wanting to be a fan of a good football team. That requires a good GM, DG is a bad GM in my opinion. It’s not just Barkley. It’s Solder, it’s ignoring OT in 2 drafts, its keeping Eli Manning at !23 million, it’s trading valuable draft assets for a derivative of BJ Hill who is set to be a FA and will want big money, it’s wasting a round 4 on Lauletta when the need was a franchise QB to groom. The results of this team aren’t an agenda, they are just garbage. Not taking Barkley at 2 is your agenda. If you needed to summarize my point that would not be it. I’d say I’m pointing towards firing the GM. Barkley is 1 decision. I’ve hated the majority of his big decisions.
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Post by trueblueatnyc on Nov 26, 2019 16:57:20 GMT -5
LOL, so the elite Lynch/Shannahan can have two terrible losing seasons and deserve a third season, but DG and Shurmer must be fired after two years. Browns have 12 wins, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS! That's hardly a "great" turnaround, especially with the expectations they had this year. Must be nice to have expectations for your team. You cant talk shit about the Browns not having a "Great" turnaround, but how do you explain the fact that under DG, we've had the worst record in the NFL. We're literally regressing. How many years until we start holding the GM accountable for his roster? After next year I have no qualms about holding Gettleman and the front office accountable if there isn't marked improvement. Every move he's made has shown to be geared towards taking a step in 2020. If it doesn't work out, no issues with getting another GM. But at least we'll have let him enact a plan. How many GMs would want to work at a place that only gives them two years to correct a 10 year mess of a franchise? And you talk about Gettleman "mismanaging the cap", how? We will have a ton of cap space next year. And while keeping Eli under contract for this season ate up cap space, it did so in a rebuilding year that you're not going to be big FA players anyway, and in an offseason that didn't have great defensive FAs to begin with. How else would you have dug this team out of the gigantic contracts of a bunch of players who contributed to the train wreck of 2017, didn't help this team do much winning last year and all have gone on to teams that are now paying them lots of money and not winning anyway? The guys has some warts on his resume, but I could play that same game with literally any GM in the league (again, I bring up the OP using the Raiders as an example of a "good GM" while ignoring their AB fiasco). But, again. Going into next offseason. He has put in place solutions to many of the teams' biggest issues. 1. Installed a possible franchise QB - If he's right on Jones, then he's solved the most important question for a team. 2. Created huge cap flexibility. This team will be towards the top in available cap space for the first time in a looong time. 3. Started replenishing the roster with a couple of quality drafts. And we have quite a few picks going into next year's draft. Even more if he can trade down. Those are big structural things. Again, if Jones is a bust, then the guy will be gone and I wont be sorry. But, the vast majority of his moves have made sense.
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 26, 2019 17:11:15 GMT -5
Completely disagree on Jones, and I am no Gettleman fan nor was I fan of the pick. I don’t know what there is to disagree on with Jones. All I’m saying is he isn’t good yet. Can he be good? Yes. Based on what I’ve seen he’s definitely an NFL starter long-term. I think there is as much a chance he falls into the average category as he does the good category. He’s flashed ability. I like his ability to run. He’s made some nice throws. He’s tough. All that said a 1:1 TD:Turnover ratio is not very good. There are young QBs doing better in that aspect. Jackson is going to win MVP and they are the same age. We don't really disagree then.
To be fair, though, Jackson is in his second year in the league, has a good team around him and an excellent head coach.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 26, 2019 17:39:51 GMT -5
They tried to play this season with a veteran QB but he wasn't getting it done. The biggest mess with this team is the oline so please give an excuse for this unit since they are 4 vets with one high draft pick? Yes, the Giants followed the same process that the vast majority of teams with rookie QBs do, they let the veteran start the season to take pressure off their rookie. If they were truly so tied to making a run with Eli, they would not have pulled him after only two games. I do agree that the OL is certainly a concern and DG hasn't fixed it. And that happens sometimes, units don't turn out to be what you thought them to be. It comes down to this. Everyone on these boards acknowledged that Dave Gettleman was taking over a team that had suffered from nearly a decade of mismanagement. He took over a team with no cap space, a bunch of over paid vets, an aging QB that the owner wasn't ready to let go, and a locker room that had just completely imploded the season before. We all knew this was supposed to be a multi year rebuilding project. Going into next offseason the teams' cap has been fixed and will be flushed with money, the lockeroom culture if obviously improved seeing as how despite the teams' struggles you can see them all playing hard and there hasn't been any media blow-ups like we saw in 2017, we've finally moved to our (hopeful) QB of the future, and we are entering next year's draft (even with the traded picks), with a bunch of draft picks. So yeah, the OL hasn't been fixed, but unlike in previous years we actually have the cap space and the picks to try and correct mistakes. Woe easy now you don't want to make to much sense the hive might come for you lol.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 26, 2019 17:42:10 GMT -5
A RB is never the best player available at # 2. Never.... Nick Chubb has proven Barkley wasn’t the best RB in the draft, let alone the best player on the board. A GMs job is maximizing asset management. Sitting at 2 in 2018 DG needed to do 1 of 2 things, love a QB or trade the pick. He chose option F(as in failure), pretend a RB is special and take him. Only according to you and a few others. NFL GMs do not operate on Fan's or Talking Head's opinions. If those 2 groups are so correct. Why is it they never become GMs. I will tell you why . When by chance one of them does get a chance to be interview ( Riddick), The interviewers have to ware depends so they protect their pants from P### themselves from the continuous laughing. DO Not Feed this BS.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 26, 2019 17:51:49 GMT -5
Salaries and draft slots is not fan talk. Tell me the RB making as much as Nate Solder. Tell me the other NFL teams who have taken a RB # 2 overall in the last decade. Email the site admin to allow increased room for the big list. RBs dont go # 2. Barkley isn’t special. Sportscenter highlight runs created his hype. Our GM was the sucker. He is special, but he is still a RB. And to be honest, Zeke Elliots running style is better. Dude gets hit in the backfield and gets 3-4 yards anyway. Now if you give Barkley the Cowboys Oline to run, you would see him explode. Problem is, we wont ever have the Cowboys OL and if we did, many RBs could do great behind it. I will only say this. If people can't see the difference between him last year and first 2 games where he had very good games against 2 good defenses. He was explosive and agile running over and around people. And can't tell he is still a bit hobbled then you might have other things on your mind. It is clear as day he is still not 100% and no they aren't gonna put him on the injury report. Antrel Rolle said it he had it and he will not be healthy this year.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 26, 2019 17:56:52 GMT -5
Must be nice to have expectations for your team. You cant talk shit about the Browns not having a "Great" turnaround, but how do you explain the fact that under DG, we've had the worst record in the NFL. We're literally regressing. How many years until we start holding the GM accountable for his roster? After next year I have no qualms about holding Gettleman and the front office accountable if there isn't marked improvement. Every move he's made has shown to be geared towards taking a step in 2020. If it doesn't work out, no issues with getting another GM. But at least we'll have let him enact a plan. How many GMs would want to work at a place that only gives them two years to correct a 10 year mess of a franchise? And you talk about Gettleman "mismanaging the cap", how? We will have a ton of cap space next year. And while keeping Eli under contract for this season ate up cap space, it did so in a rebuilding year that you're not going to be big FA players anyway, and in an offseason that didn't have great defensive FAs to begin with. How else would you have dug this team out of the gigantic contracts of a bunch of players who contributed to the train wreck of 2017, didn't help this team do much winning last year and all have gone on to teams that are now paying them lots of money and not winning anyway? The guys has some warts on his resume, but I could play that same game with literally any GM in the league (again, I bring up the OP using the Raiders as an example of a "good GM" while ignoring their AB fiasco). But, again. Going into next offseason. He has put in place solutions to many of the teams' biggest issues. 1. Installed a possible franchise QB - If he's right on Jones, then he's solved the most important question for a team. 2. Created huge cap flexibility. This team will be towards the top in available cap space for the first time in a looong time. 3. Started replenishing the roster with a couple of quality drafts. And we have quite a few picks going into next year's draft. Even more if he can trade down. Those are big structural things. Again, if Jones is a bust, then the guy will be gone and I wont be sorry. But, the vast majority of his moves have made sense. He bit the bullet and did the hard necessary things to get this cap back inline. He did the same thing in Carolina came into team stuck in5 and 6 win seasons 17 mill over the cap he got them straight right to a Super Bowl wit a healthy cap. If this team isn't up and running years 4 and 5 he has failed right now no one can say.
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Post by thetruth on Nov 26, 2019 17:58:46 GMT -5
Well. If Gettlemen ever laughed at people like me I would ask him which tapes he used to scout the following players: - J. Stewart - Omameh - Halapio - N. Soldier - A. Ogletree (traded a 4th and a 6th) - M. Remmers - K. Martin - Matt Kalil (CAR) (gave him $50M!!) - D Funchess (CAR) (traded a 3rd and a 6th) - Andy Lee (CAR) (4th rounder for.....a.... punter....) off the top of my head. I've heard rumours his resume is fantastic but.. for some reason im unable to find evidence to support such claims And lastly, Id ask him what Mike Shula has on him. So Carl Are you the sock puppet or the profile you are vehemently defending? Yes we are laughing at you The **** are you saying?
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Post by thetruth on Nov 26, 2019 18:00:29 GMT -5
Well. If Gettlemen ever laughed at people like me I would ask him which tapes he used to scout the following players: - J. Stewart - Omameh - Halapio - N. Soldier - A. Ogletree (traded a 4th and a 6th) - M. Remmers - K. Martin - Matt Kalil (CAR) (gave him $50M!!) - D Funchess (CAR) (traded a 3rd and a 6th) - Andy Lee (CAR) (4th rounder for.....a.... punter....) off the top of my head. I've heard rumours his resume is fantastic but.. for some reason im unable to find evidence to support such claims And lastly, Id ask him what Mike Shula has on him. It would go more like this Carl His response would be quite simple. How may SB teams were you the GM of ? How many times did the team you were the GM of make it to the playoffs? Then your cricket response "chirp chirp chirp" followed by a puzzled look on your face. At that point. He would walk away with a Yep I didn't think so. Who is Carl? You boys need some damn help. I've won as many SB's as GM as Gettlemen has. So I wouldnt really care what that bum had to say
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Post by giantsback2020 on Nov 26, 2019 18:02:14 GMT -5
He is special, but he is still a RB. And to be honest, Zeke Elliots running style is better. Dude gets hit in the backfield and gets 3-4 yards anyway. Now if you give Barkley the Cowboys Oline to run, you would see him explode. Problem is, we wont ever have the Cowboys OL and if we did, many RBs could do great behind it. I will only say this. If people can't see the difference between him last year and first 2 games where he had very good games against 2 good defenses. He was explosive and agile running over and around people. And can't tell he is still a bit hobbled then you might have other things on your mind. It is clear as day he is still not 100% and no they aren't gonna put him on the injury report. Antrel Rolle said it he had it and he will not be healthy this year. He had 8 carries for 10 yards in the first half of the TB game prior to the injury. From Day 1 the vast majority of his carries have gone for 2-3 yards or less. The question to me is how many 2-3 yards carries is a 50 yard carry worth? If we aids in 5 stalled drives where he contributes unproductive plays and then goes for 50 to aid a TD are we a functional offense? I would make Barkley a slot receiver who we motion into the backfield 5-10 times a game. His skill is in space. He is not an effective down to down RB. Playing him at WR a high % would extend his career and maximize his ability which is running and making people miss in the open field. He is not good at making it to the open field as a RB.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 26, 2019 18:08:12 GMT -5
He is special, but he is still a RB. And to be honest, Zeke Elliots running style is better. Dude gets hit in the backfield and gets 3-4 yards anyway. Now if you give Barkley the Cowboys Oline to run, you would see him explode. Problem is, we wont ever have the Cowboys OL and if we did, many RBs could do great behind it. I will only say this. If people can't see the difference between him last year and first 2 games where he had very good games against 2 good defenses. He was explosive and agile running over and around people. And can't tell he is still a bit hobbled then you might have other things on your mind. It is clear as day he is still not 100% and no they aren't gonna put him on the injury report. Antrel Rolle said it he had it and he will not be healthy this year. I dont think he is 100% either, but that shouldnt make him drop easy passes.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 26, 2019 18:45:31 GMT -5
I will only say this. If people can't see the difference between him last year and first 2 games where he had very good games against 2 good defenses. He was explosive and agile running over and around people. And can't tell he is still a bit hobbled then you might have other things on your mind. It is clear as day he is still not 100% and no they aren't gonna put him on the injury report. Antrel Rolle said it he had it and he will not be healthy this year. I dont think he is 100% either, but that shouldnt make him drop easy passes. Nope absolutely not it does happen, I honestly think he is miserable because he can't be himself no matter how hard he try's. I have had a major neck injury during training and never have been the same, it is really frustrating. Even tho I was competing as an amateur power lifter it still sucks to lose all you worked for.
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Post by giantsback2020 on Nov 26, 2019 18:56:08 GMT -5
I will only say this. If people can't see the difference between him last year and first 2 games where he had very good games against 2 good defenses. He was explosive and agile running over and around people. And can't tell he is still a bit hobbled then you might have other things on your mind. It is clear as day he is still not 100% and no they aren't gonna put him on the injury report. Antrel Rolle said it he had it and he will not be healthy this year. I dont think he is 100% either, but that shouldnt make him drop easy passes. The team is 2-9, he’s not on the injury report. If he’s not healthy shut him down. He’s out there and not on the injury report so I assume he is healthy. Why are we pretending he’s hurt more than any other RB? All these guys are banged up. It’s football.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Nov 26, 2019 19:57:08 GMT -5
There's a new tip toe burglar in town.
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Post by TEM on Nov 26, 2019 20:26:38 GMT -5
It would go more like this Carl His response would be quite simple. How may SB teams were you the GM of ? How many times did the team you were the GM of make it to the playoffs? Then your cricket response "chirp chirp chirp" followed by a puzzled look on your face. At that point. He would walk away with a Yep I didn't think so. Who is Carl? You boys need some damn help. I've won as many SB's as GM as Gettlemen has. So I wouldnt really care what that bum had to say Carl you brought a team to the super bowl as a GM? Wow did not know that?
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