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Post by McCherry on Dec 6, 2019 16:52:40 GMT -5
They can it's in your power. Exactly And I have (or used to have)the power fk call out people who litter this place with negative signal to noise ratio posts and threats that clutter up this forum because its getting harder and harder to actually have intelligent conversations with like minded people on these forums because of said posts ame people who repeatedly post them This article is indeed a hot take,written by a writer that is nothing more than a troll just looking for clicks. Where can I get such a high paying job being nothing more than a social media troll that writes for a useless NY fishwrap and spew insane tin foil conspiracies like this.. The Daily News isn't not the first to point to how playing Eli has benefits for the Giants at this point of the season. I don't believe this is being orchestrated to avoid a controversy about Burrow or any of that nonsense. Jones is clearly hurt, whether he could play this week is questionable. If Eli plays badly it's a non-issue, but if he plays well and we beat the Eagles they're not benching him. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 6, 2019 16:57:58 GMT -5
Exactly And I have (or used to have)the power fk call out people who litter this place with negative signal to noise ratio posts and threats that clutter up this forum because its getting harder and harder to actually have intelligent conversations with like minded people on these forums because of said posts ame people who repeatedly post them This article is indeed a hot take,written by a writer that is nothing more than a troll just looking for clicks. Where can I get such a high paying job being nothing more than a social media troll that writes for a useless NY fishwrap and spew insane tin foil conspiracies like this.. The Daily News isn't not the first to point to how playing Eli has benefits for the Giants at this point of the season. I don't believe this is being orchestrated to avoid a controversy about Burrow or any of that nonsense. Jones is clearly hurt, whether he could play this week is questionable. If Eli plays badly it's a non-issue, but if he plays well and we beat the Eagles they're not benching him. Honestly this is his last game unless Jones is hurt worse than we think Even if he plays well and wins the team looks good having him go out on. Winning note by punking the Eagles on their home field |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 6, 2019 17:08:25 GMT -5
The Daily News isn't not the first to point to how playing Eli has benefits for the Giants at this point of the season. I don't believe this is being orchestrated to avoid a controversy about Burrow or any of that nonsense. Jones is clearly hurt, whether he could play this week is questionable. If Eli plays badly it's a non-issue, but if he plays well and we beat the Eagles they're not benching him. Honestly this is his last game unless Jones is hurt worse than we think Even if he plays well and wins the team looks good having him go out on. Winning note by punking the Eagles on their home field The Giants will be flying high if they win Monday with Eli, especially if he's the hero, which he'll pretty much have to be... We're not benching Eli if the Giants win. If you're Shurmur, you can't bench the guy who got you your first win in 3 months. A win will invigorate the team, fans will come to see Eli's final games, that's important to the owners. It's not a hot take, its common sense. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Dec 6, 2019 17:10:19 GMT -5
Honestly this is his last game unless Jones is hurt worse than we think Even if he plays well and wins the team looks good having him go out on. Winning note by punking the Eagles on their home field The Giants will be flying high if they win Monday with Eli, especially if he's the hero, which he'll pretty much have to be... We're not benching Eli if the Giants win. If you're Shurmur, you can't bench the guy who got you your first win in 3 months. A win will invigorate the team, fans will come to see Eli's final games, that's important to the owners. Sure they are. They've started the Jones era, once he's healthy he needs to get back in there. His development is the most important factor this year. |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 6, 2019 17:24:32 GMT -5
The Giants will be flying high if they win Monday with Eli, especially if he's the hero, which he'll pretty much have to be... We're not benching Eli if the Giants win. If you're Shurmur, you can't bench the guy who got you your first win in 3 months. A win will invigorate the team, fans will come to see Eli's final games, that's important to the owners. Sure they are. They've started the Jones era, once he's healthy he needs to get back in there. His development is the most important factor this year. Daniel Jones development this season is over. The players are just waiting for the season to end, they know the HC is probably getting fired. Aside from setting a record for turnovers, there's nothing more we're going to see from Jones this year. |
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Post by GameTime on Dec 6, 2019 17:29:06 GMT -5
Sure they are. They've started the Jones era, once he's healthy he needs to get back in there. His development is the most important factor this year. Daniel Jones development this season is over. The players are just waiting for the season to end, they know the HC is probably getting fired. Aside from setting a record for turnovers, there's nothing more we're going to see from Jones this year. good points but game time for Jones is always important |
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Post by mj312 on Dec 6, 2019 17:29:47 GMT -5
Honestly this is his last game unless Jones is hurt worse than we think Even if he plays well and wins the team looks good having him go out on. Winning note by punking the Eagles on their home field The Giants will be flying high if they win Monday with Eli, especially if he's the hero, which he'll pretty much have to be... We're not benching Eli if the Giants win. If you're Shurmur, you can't bench the guy who got you your first win in 3 months. A win will invigorate the team, fans will come to see Eli's final games, that's important to the owners. It's not a hot take, its common sense. Yeah totally agree .. if they win, and Shurmer goes back to jones the following week he’s dumber than we think .. Shurmer is fighting for his job right now and he knows it . |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 6, 2019 17:36:08 GMT -5
The Giants will be flying high if they win Monday with Eli, especially if he's the hero, which he'll pretty much have to be... We're not benching Eli if the Giants win. If you're Shurmur, you can't bench the guy who got you your first win in 3 months. A win will invigorate the team, fans will come to see Eli's final games, that's important to the owners. It's not a hot take, its common sense. Yeah totally agree .. if they win, and Shurmer goes back to jones the following week he’s dumber than we think .. Shurmer is fighting for his job right now and he knows it . I think if there's a chance to win games and bring any kind of excitement to the team the owners will behind it. That scenario outweighs any development you think you're going to get in 3 games out of a QB who's injured , hit his wall and is just getting killed at this point. |
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Post by GameTime on Dec 6, 2019 17:42:59 GMT -5
The Giants will be flying high if they win Monday with Eli, especially if he's the hero, which he'll pretty much have to be... We're not benching Eli if the Giants win. If you're Shurmur, you can't bench the guy who got you your first win in 3 months. A win will invigorate the team, fans will come to see Eli's final games, that's important to the owners. It's not a hot take, its common sense. Yeah totally agree .. if they win, and Shurmer goes back to jones the following week he’s dumber than we think .. Shurmer is fighting for his job right now and he knows it . Shurmur's fate is what it is no matter what the Giants do the next few weeks. They have either decided already to keep him an other year or fire him. if Jones can play he will play and should play |
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Post by Zimonami on Dec 6, 2019 17:56:04 GMT -5
If Eli does well another team might pick him up in the future. You would think that's a possibility… but, I think the reality will be that the OLine blocks horribly, as usual for the past 4 years, and Eli will go into the outstanding dink and dunk offense we all love to watch and cheer for. |
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Post by Zimonami on Dec 6, 2019 18:10:32 GMT -5
There's no reason to take any chance with Jones ankle, even if it just sore. He's the future, and his playing anymore this season doesn't mean a thing, especially if he further aggravates the ankle.
I had a serious high ankle sprain playing hoops in HS at 16. Cast and crutches for 3 weeks. That same ankle ligaments and tendons re-tor 2 more times over the years, putting me back into casts/crutches each time. Then it finally broke 5 years ago. It was never the same after the first time.
Let Eli play and get some deserved applause from the fans. hahahaha... and maybe a few boos, but I hope our fans are more appreciative of Eli's career than that.
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Post by Sarcasman on Dec 6, 2019 18:10:53 GMT -5
Sure they are. They've started the Jones era, once he's healthy he needs to get back in there. His development is the most important factor this year. Daniel Jones development this season is over. The players are just waiting for the season to end, they know the HC is probably getting fired. Aside from setting a record for turnovers, there's nothing more we're going to see from Jones this year. He needs every minute of field time he can get. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Dec 6, 2019 18:13:31 GMT -5
The Giants will be flying high if they win Monday with Eli, especially if he's the hero, which he'll pretty much have to be... We're not benching Eli if the Giants win. If you're Shurmur, you can't bench the guy who got you your first win in 3 months. A win will invigorate the team, fans will come to see Eli's final games, that's important to the owners. It's not a hot take, its common sense. Yeah totally agree .. if they win, and Shurmer goes back to jones the following week he’s dumber than we think .. Shurmer is fighting for his job right now and he knows it . He bought all the time he's gonna buy by making the change. He doesn't get to buy more time for vacillating. It's not about winning games and hasn't been since week 3. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 6, 2019 18:16:32 GMT -5
If Eli does well another team might pick him up in the future. You would think that's a possibility… but, I think the reality will be that the OLine blocks horribly, as usual for the past 4 years, and Eli will go into the outstanding dink and dunk offense we all love to watch and cheer for. It will look like some form of the 1st 2 weeks |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 6, 2019 18:19:23 GMT -5
Yeah totally agree .. if they win, and Shurmer goes back to jones the following week he’s dumber than we think .. Shurmer is fighting for his job right now and he knows it . He bought all the time he's gonna buy by making the change. He doesn't get to buy more time for vacillating. It's not about winning games and hasn't been since week 3.I think you're wrong if you think ownership doesn't want to win games down this stretch if there's the chance. Especially if Eli is the QB. |
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 6, 2019 18:33:37 GMT -5
Everyone is saying the same thing. If Eli plays well Monday, watch Jones's ankle suddenly get worse. I don’t understand this at all. What possible good would it do for the team for Eli to start, even if they win? |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 6, 2019 18:34:11 GMT -5
You would think that's a possibility… but, I think the reality will be that the OLine blocks horribly, as usual for the past 4 years, and Eli will go into the outstanding dink and dunk offense we all love to watch and cheer for. It will look like some form of the 1st 2 weeks He'll be able to read defenses better than Jones. He'll be sharper, he's in great shape. Looks like he might get some weapons back. He'll have every reason to throw it all over the place, I don't see any chance he'll play conservatively. He might bring some confidence to an offense that lacked leadership for most of this season. |
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 6, 2019 18:36:39 GMT -5
Honestly this is his last game unless Jones is hurt worse than we think Even if he plays well and wins the team looks good having him go out on. Winning note by punking the Eagles on their home field The Giants will be flying high if they win Monday with Eli, especially if he's the hero, which he'll pretty much have to be... We're not benching Eli if the Giants win. If you're Shurmur, you can't bench the guy who got you your first win in 3 months. A win will invigorate the team, fans will come to see Eli's final games, that's important to the owners. It's not a hot take, its common sense. Even I don’t think that our ownership is that stupid. If they are, this franchise is doomed |
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Post by Zimonami on Dec 6, 2019 18:47:33 GMT -5
You would think that's a possibility… but, I think the reality will be that the OLine blocks horribly, as usual for the past 4 years, and Eli will go into the outstanding dink and dunk offense we all love to watch and cheer for. It will look like some form of the 1st 2 weeks yes... if he is healthy, play him for the experience. If his ankle is nicked, sit him... Torn muscles will heal. Not much muscle in the ankle area., Once you stretch and tear the tendons and ligaments they are never the same I wouldn't have minded if they sat Barkley longer than they did. |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 6, 2019 18:47:34 GMT -5
Everyone is saying the same thing. If Eli plays well Monday, watch Jones's ankle suddenly get worse. I don’t understand this at all. What possible good would it do for the team for Eli to start, even if they win? If it's the HC's decision... I think if Shurmur finally gets a win with Eli after 8 weeks of losing, I can't imagine him wanting to go back to that misery for the sake of developing a QB he won't be coaching next year. For ownership, I think there's something to the idea that fans will come to the games to see Eli play in his last games as a Giant, especially if he's playing well. |
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Post by southerner on Dec 6, 2019 18:55:15 GMT -5
You know I love Eli and what he did for the Giants, but he is a statue in the back field. He will be sacked 7 times, maybe more. I love that fact people are excited to see Eli return after they sent years dumping on him, but his days are over. For those who have seen it, it is like Johnny Unitas coming into the Super Bowl III against Namath and the Jets....the world thought Johnny could do it for the Colts, but alas his days were over. Just watch and enjoy Eli for his last, or near to last time on an NFL field as he will be done with the NFL in less than a month.
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Post by mj312 on Dec 6, 2019 18:56:45 GMT -5
I think jones really is hobbled by the ankle and could prob play in a week or 2 but won’t . I think the Giants will do the right thing by Eli and let him finish the season.. at least if they had an ounce of respect for what the guy has accomplished that’s what they should do.. we are 2-10 and going nowhere . Jones has had ups and downs as expected , now he’s hurt and there’s zero sense putting him back in for the rest of the year because A) the season is over and we are going nowhere B) with the exception of being able to run here and there there’s no difference for the team with either one of them . Eli has given his heart and soul to this team for 16 years and with jones injury you can appreciate how tough Eli was .. let them man have the last 4 games and announce it so that fans get tickets to go watch Eli’s last stand . I think there will be a big difference in attendance. No disrespect to jones but I’m not paying hundreds to go watch this team right now .. if I get a chance to go watch Eli’s last games in a giants uniform the money is worth it . Do the right thing giants ..
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 6, 2019 18:59:31 GMT -5
I don’t understand this at all. What possible good would it do for the team for Eli to start, even if they win? If it's the HC's decision... I think if Shurmur finally gets a win with Eli after 8 weeks of losing, I can't imagine him wanting to go back to that misery for the sake of developing a QB he won't be coaching next year. For ownership, I think there's something to the idea that fans will come to the games to see Eli play in his last games as a Giant, especially if he's playing well. So will they just pretend that Jones is injured or will they formally bench him for Eli? As if we weren’t already the laughing stock of the NFL.... |
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 6, 2019 19:01:04 GMT -5
I think jones really is hobbled by the ankle and could prob play in a week or 2 but won’t . I think the Giants will do the right thing by Eli and let him finish the season.. at least if they had an ounce of respect for what the guy has accomplished that’s what they should do.. we are 2-10 and going nowhere . Jones has had ups and downs as expected , now he’s hurt and there’s zero sense putting him back in for the rest of the year because A) the season is over and we are going nowhere B) with the exception of being able to run here and there there’s no difference for the team with either one of them . Eli has given his heart and soul to this team for 16 years and with jones injury you can appreciate how tough Eli was .. let them man have the last 4 games and announce it so that fans get tickets to go watch Eli’s last stand . I think there will be a big difference in attendance. No disrespect to jones but I’m not paying hundreds to go watch this team right now .. if I get a chance to go watch Eli’s last games in a giants uniform the money is worth it . Do the right thing giants .. You realize that the tickets are already sold no matter how many people actually show up, right? |
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Post by DrRumack on Dec 6, 2019 19:01:16 GMT -5
Your "hot take" bullshit is getting old.
Please get better material. You're boring.
The “hot take” post/reply is the new hot take. How pathetically ironic. |
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Post by DrRumack on Dec 6, 2019 19:06:10 GMT -5
Watch out That term isn't allowed here anymore apparently There goes half of your responses.. That actually made me laugh. |
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Post by DrRumack on Dec 6, 2019 19:07:00 GMT -5
What kind of injuries do you normally get in quidditch? Mostly crotch splinters. Crotch splinter. There an obvious, and bad, joke in there about “small wood.” |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 6, 2019 19:12:05 GMT -5
If it's the HC's decision... I think if Shurmur finally gets a win with Eli after 8 weeks of losing, I can't imagine him wanting to go back to that misery for the sake of developing a QB he won't be coaching next year. For ownership, I think there's something to the idea that fans will come to the games to see Eli play in his last games as a Giant, especially if he's playing well. So will they just pretend that Jones is injured or will they formally bench him for Eli? As if we weren’t already the laughing stock of the NFL.... I don't think there's any question he's injured. I just don't see where they need to rush him back for the last games on a bad ankle if the team is successful with Eli. |
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Post by DrRumack on Dec 6, 2019 19:14:05 GMT -5
They can it's in your power. Exactly And I have (or used to have)the power fk call out people who litter this place with negative signal to noise ratio posts and threats that clutter up this forum because its getting harder and harder to actually have intelligent conversations with like minded people on these forums because of said posts ame people who repeatedly post them I think 1. You take this forum and casual sports talk too seriously. 2. Overvalue your opinion. 3. Undervalue others’ opinions. 4. Don’t understand the concept of differing opinions. 5. Lack a certain level of maturity to read a differing opinion. 6. Lack the impulse control to simply scroll past a post that bothers you. Or some composition of the above. |
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Post by DrRumack on Dec 6, 2019 19:18:12 GMT -5
The Giants will be flying high if they win Monday with Eli, especially if he's the hero, which he'll pretty much have to be... We're not benching Eli if the Giants win. If you're Shurmur, you can't bench the guy who got you your first win in 3 months. A win will invigorate the team, fans will come to see Eli's final games, that's important to the owners. It's not a hot take, its common sense. Yeah totally agree .. if they win, and Shurmer goes back to jones the following week he’s dumber than we think .. Shurmer is fighting for his job right now and he knows it . So a couple of meaningless wins in a dismal season with a QB who won’t be playing here next year....will save Shurmur’s job for next year? |
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