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Post by Delicreep on Dec 6, 2019 19:27:37 GMT -5
So will they just pretend that Jones is injured or will they formally bench him for Eli? As if we weren’t already the laughing stock of the NFL.... I don't think there's any question he's injured. I just don't see where they need to rush him back for the last games on a bad ankle if the team is successful with Eli. It's an interesting concept. If DJ is healthy, he goes back in? |
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Post by mj312 on Dec 6, 2019 19:39:02 GMT -5
I think jones really is hobbled by the ankle and could prob play in a week or 2 but won’t . I think the Giants will do the right thing by Eli and let him finish the season.. at least if they had an ounce of respect for what the guy has accomplished that’s what they should do.. we are 2-10 and going nowhere . Jones has had ups and downs as expected , now he’s hurt and there’s zero sense putting him back in for the rest of the year because A) the season is over and we are going nowhere B) with the exception of being able to run here and there there’s no difference for the team with either one of them . Eli has given his heart and soul to this team for 16 years and with jones injury you can appreciate how tough Eli was .. let them man have the last 4 games and announce it so that fans get tickets to go watch Eli’s last stand . I think there will be a big difference in attendance. No disrespect to jones but I’m not paying hundreds to go watch this team right now .. if I get a chance to go watch Eli’s last games in a giants uniform the money is worth it . Do the right thing giants .. You realize that the tickets are already sold no matter how many people actually show up, right? It’s not so much about the money as it is the look of a half empty stadium or a stadium full of opposing teams fans . if Eli is playing there will be a mad scramble to watch his last games |
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Post by mj312 on Dec 6, 2019 19:47:32 GMT -5
You know I love Eli and what he did for the Giants, but he is a statue in the back field. He will be sacked 7 times, maybe more. I love that fact people are excited to see Eli return after they sent years dumping on him, but his days are over. For those who have seen it, it is like Johnny Unitas coming into the Super Bowl III against Namath and the Jets....the world thought Johnny could do it for the Colts, but alas his days were over. Just watch and enjoy Eli for his last, or near to last time on an NFL field as he will be done with the NFL in less than a month. Its pick your poison at this time . Jones is def more mobile but he’s no Lamar Jackson and gets sacked a bunch also . Eli checks down for short yardage and we struggle for 1st downs. Jones holds the ball too long and fumbles a lot so either option is frustrating . At this point just give Eli the last 4 games and give him the farewell tour he’s earned . |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 6, 2019 19:53:25 GMT -5
I don't think there's any question he's injured. I just don't see where they need to rush him back for the last games on a bad ankle if the team is successful with Eli. It's an interesting concept. If DJ is healthy, he goes back in?it's going to be an interesting question if Eli plays well. |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 6, 2019 19:56:14 GMT -5
You know I love Eli and what he did for the Giants, but he is a statue in the back field. He will be sacked 7 times, maybe more. I love that fact people are excited to see Eli return after they sent years dumping on him, but his days are over. For those who have seen it, it is like Johnny Unitas coming into the Super Bowl III against Namath and the Jets....the world thought Johnny could do it for the Colts, but alas his days were over. Just watch and enjoy Eli for his last, or near to last time on an NFL field as he will be done with the NFL in less than a month. Its pick your poison at this time . Jones is def more mobile but he’s no Lamar Jackson and gets sacked a bunch also . Eli checks down for short yardage and we struggle for 1st downs. Jones holds the ball too long and fumbles a lot so either option is frustrating . At this point just give Eli the last 4 games and give him the farewell tour he’s earned . I think Eli's experience will actually help him to see the defense and the pass rush better than Jones. Eli was sacked only twice in 2 games. I doubt he's going to worry about throwing INT's either so I expect him to get rid of the ball quicker. |
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Post by DrRumack on Dec 6, 2019 20:12:54 GMT -5
I don't think there's any question he's injured. I just don't see where they need to rush him back for the last games on a bad ankle if the team is successful with Eli. It's an interesting concept. If DJ is healthy, he goes back in? If it’s me, he goes back in. |
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Post by NYGiantslifer on Dec 6, 2019 20:14:45 GMT -5
This has really turned into a 3 ring circus. So now we should give Eli a 4 game farewell tour? That's nuts. Don't get me wrong, I love Eli but his time is past. IMO, they need to get DJ back in as soon as possible to get valuable experience if they are serious about his development, HELLO?! He should at least face the Eagles once this year. But... nothing would surprise me with this directionless team. Sad. A once proud organization in complete and utter disarray.
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Post by Roosevelt on Dec 6, 2019 20:20:57 GMT -5
When I saw the Jones interview, I got the feeling he was told he wasn't playing despite the extent of his injury.
If anyone think it's BS, then I suggest you listen to the interview and then comment.
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Post by Delicreep on Dec 6, 2019 20:24:59 GMT -5
It's an interesting concept. If DJ is healthy, he goes back in?it's going to be an interesting question if Eli plays well. Hypothetically...I don't think Eli playing "well" would keep him in and DJ on the bench. Eli playing lights out would make it an interesting question: can the franchise - any franchise - sit a QB playing lights. I say it's an interesting question because I can't ever remember that happening, while sitting a QB that was playing "well" for a rookie is not unheard of. And of course, I can see the franchise wanting him to go out winning (hypothetically) |
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Post by Delicreep on Dec 6, 2019 20:31:48 GMT -5
It's an interesting concept. If DJ is healthy, he goes back in? If it’s me, he goes back in. Agreed...we moved on. |
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Post by Speedman on Dec 6, 2019 20:37:36 GMT -5
It's an interesting concept. If DJ is healthy, he goes back in? If it’s me, he goes back in. Even if they beat the Eagles? |
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Post by DandyDon on Dec 6, 2019 21:12:53 GMT -5
You realize that the tickets are already sold no matter how many people actually show up, right? It’s not so much about the money as it is the look of a half empty stadium or a stadium full of opposing teams fans . if Eli is playing there will be a mad scramble to watch his last games If this is true, why start him in an away game? Again, makes no sense. |
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Post by GameTime on Dec 6, 2019 21:13:02 GMT -5
If it’s me, he goes back in. Even if they beat the Eagles? A starter should not lose his job to an injury. If Jones is healthy he should play, He is the NYGs starting QB. |
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Post by Delicreep on Dec 6, 2019 21:15:54 GMT -5
If it’s me, he goes back in. Even if they beat the Eagles? If it were my call...absolutely. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 22:07:28 GMT -5
Yeah totally agree .. if they win, and Shurmer goes back to jones the following week he’s dumber than we think .. Shurmer is fighting for his job right now and he knows it . So a couple of meaningless wins in a dismal season with a QB who won’t be playing here next year....will save Shurmur’s job for next year? As crazy as it sounds yes. I think it could |
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Post by Roosevelt on Dec 6, 2019 22:11:01 GMT -5
Even if they beat the Eagles? A starter should not lose his job to an injury. If Jones is healthy he should play, He is the NYGs starting QB.
Tell that to Drew Bledsoe, Phil Simms, and every other player who lost his starting job after getting hurt.  |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 6, 2019 22:28:07 GMT -5
It’s not so much about the money as it is the look of a half empty stadium or a stadium full of opposing teams fans . if Eli is playing there will be a mad scramble to watch his last games If this is true, why start him in an away game? Again, makes no sense. Isn't Jones wearing a boot at the moment? |
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 6, 2019 22:34:34 GMT -5
I think 1. You take this forum and casual sports talk too seriously. 2. Overvalue your opinion. 3. Undervalue others’ opinions. 4. Don’t understand the concept of differing opinions. 5. Lack a certain level of maturity to read a differing opinion. 6. Lack the impulse control to simply scroll past a post that bothers you. Or some composition of the above. Nice autobiography of yourself.  I'm so glad another wannabe internet psychiatrist with out any proof or certificate can make such a complete diagnosis of me or anyone else judging by a few posts (which has disagreed with me and was pretty much everything he stated,kinda a symptom of a narcissist(and i have first hand experiences with these kinds of people so unlike wannabe internet psychiatrist I can see this a mile away) Its posts like this with subtle sides of dickish remarks why I must have blocked him and a few others that are exterminating brain cells at a rapid pace. Now back to finding the adults around here that actually know their shit.. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 6, 2019 22:35:23 GMT -5
Isn't Jones wearing a boot at the moment? As I understand it was off today but he did not practice. And all our "weapons" are practicing |
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Post by Roosevelt on Dec 6, 2019 22:45:57 GMT -5
You would think that's a possibility… but, I think the reality will be that the OLine blocks horribly, as usual for the past 4 years, and Eli will go into the outstanding dink and dunk offense we all love to watch and cheer for. That's what is sad. The anti Eli contingent will complain about that but yet are all so the ones complaining that Jones doesn't hit his check down men enough.
Has there been anyone who's complaining specifically about Jones not hitting his check down? I haven't heard that one, unless you're referring to Saquon who hasn't shown the greatest hands when passes have come his way this year.
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Post by roundabout on Dec 6, 2019 22:46:08 GMT -5
So a couple of meaningless wins in a dismal season with a QB who won’t be playing here next year....will save Shurmur’s job for next year? As crazy as it sounds yes. I think it could Beating Miami and Washington Really shouldn’t save anyone’s job. I’m hoping they clean house. Worst coaching staff in the NFL. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 6, 2019 22:57:28 GMT -5
As crazy as it sounds yes. I think it could As someone else has already stated ,Shurmurs fate has been decided what happens in the last four games doesn't matter. I'm trending to think they are done unless we do something insane like sweep the eagles |
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 6, 2019 23:01:25 GMT -5
As crazy as it sounds yes. I think it could As someone else has already stated ,Shurmurs fate has been decided what happens in the last four games doesn't matter. Wait, you have guaranteed that Shurmur will not be fired at the end of this season (much like you guaranteed that Eli would start for this entire season) and mocked anyone who disagreed with you. No backing off now Bro |
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 6, 2019 23:07:27 GMT -5
As someone else has already stated ,Shurmurs fate has been decided what happens in the last four games doesn't matter. I'm trending to think they are done unless we do something insane like sweep the eagles That would make me feel even worse about our decision-makers. What could they learn in the last 4 meaningless games that they didn’t already know from the first 28 games of Shurmur’s tenure? |
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Post by Morehead State on Dec 6, 2019 23:26:51 GMT -5
Watch out That term isn't allowed here anymore apparently Yes it is, the debbie downers don't like it ,doesn't fit their narrative but nothing wrong with it. "Debbie Downers" Red? We are 2-10. Since 2017, we have the worst record in the NFL.
I love a good optimist, but jeez...can the team give us something to be optimistic about please?
Being a "Debbie Downer"...... seems damned appropriate.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 6, 2019 23:55:19 GMT -5
I'm trending to think they are done unless we do something insane like sweep the eagles That would make me feel even worse about our decision-makers. What could they learn in the last 4 meaningless games that they didn’t already know from the first 28 games of Shurmur’s tenure? ThAt would indeed frighten me |
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Post by DrRumack on Dec 7, 2019 0:11:02 GMT -5
If it’s me, he goes back in. Even if they beat the Eagles? Yeah. Even if we beat the eagles and Eli plays lights out. If Jones is healthy what does playing Eli accomplish? |
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Post by DrRumack on Dec 7, 2019 0:15:07 GMT -5
That's what is sad. The anti Eli contingent will complain about that but yet are all so the ones complaining that Jones doesn't hit his check down men enough.
Has there been anyone who's complaining specifically about Jones not hitting his check down? I haven't heard that one, unless you're referring to Saquon who hasn't shown the greatest hands when passes have come his way this year.
From what I gathered it seems like that poster makes up 75% of what he writes. |
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Post by ocgiant on Dec 7, 2019 0:20:19 GMT -5
Horse poop is all this is...
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Post by Speedman on Dec 7, 2019 2:14:59 GMT -5
Even if they beat the Eagles? Yeah. Even if we beat the eagles and Eli plays lights out. If Jones is healthy what does playing Eli accomplish? It could get Shurmur fired. |
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