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Post by DrRumack on Dec 12, 2019 9:49:51 GMT -5
I just don't agree that any of this is meaningful after a dozen or so games. I think it’s quite meaningful. We could’ve literally filled two needs by taking Josh Allen at number 6 and Drew Locke late in 1st or early 2nd round. Watch Jacksonville and it’s clear that Josh Allen is on a higher level as a football player than Daniel Jones will ever be. Take a look at the two games Drew Locke has played so far with Denver and this clear as well. So after 55 passes you can assess that Lock is on a higher level as a football player than Jones will ever be? And please don’t misconstrue this as me being a Jones-homer. I’m not. I’m just shaking my head at your assault on logic. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 12, 2019 10:46:44 GMT -5
It hasn't helped Jacksonville. They have a few more wins then us right now, but are a complete train wreak. So much for the Tom Coughlin doing such a great job over there.. I think Jacksonville will be cleaning house after the season. Not sure TC makes it, will be shocked if Marrone survives it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 11:11:43 GMT -5
So much for the Tom Coughlin doing such a great job over there.. I think Jacksonville will be cleaning house after the season. Not sure TC makes it, will be shocked if Marrone survives it. That's what I'm thinking and I'm glad the bridge was burned between TC and the owners. I was in Jax for thanksgiving and those fans want some heads to roll just like us. |
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 12, 2019 11:45:15 GMT -5
So after 55 passes you can assess that Lock is on a higher level as a football player than Jones will ever be? And please don’t misconstrue this as me being a Jones-homer. I’m not. I’m just shaking my head at your assault on logic. What I can assess is that taking Josh Allen at number six and then taking a AB later on made a heck of a lot more sense than grabbing Daniel Jones with that pick and plenty of people agree with that. Josh Allen was the way to go with number six pick. What you cannot seem to understand is that it is way too early to make that call. Everyone seems to understand this but you. |
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Post by DrRumack on Dec 12, 2019 11:46:22 GMT -5
So after 55 passes you can assess that Lock is on a higher level as a football player than Jones will ever be? And please don’t misconstrue this as me being a Jones-homer. I’m not. I’m just shaking my head at your assault on logic. What I can assess is that taking Josh Allen at number six and then taking a AB later on made a heck of a lot more sense than grabbing Daniel Jones with that pick and plenty of people agree with that. Josh Allen was the way to go with number six pick. No, no, no. Do not shift the goal posts here. I bolded a specific sentence of your post and am focusing on that. Your words: "Josh Allen is on a higher level as a football player than Daniel Jones will ever be. Take a look at the two games Drew Locke has played so far with Denver and this clear as well."Again I ask you, after 55 passes you can assess that Lock is on a higher level as a football player than Jones will ever be? If you want to rescind that comment go for it. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Dec 12, 2019 11:47:21 GMT -5
I just don't agree that any of this is meaningful after a dozen or so games. I think it’s quite meaningful. We could’ve literally filled two needs by taking Josh Allen at number 6 and Drew Locke late in 1st or early 2nd round. Watch Jacksonville and it’s clear that Josh Allen is on a higher level as a football player than Daniel Jones will ever be. Take a look at the two games Drew Locke has played so far with Denver and this clear as well. I don't agree. I find the discussion of after the fact roster transactions to be silly. Although I'm still mad that they drafted Beckham instead of Donald and I' can go back and find a hundred more examples like that if I thought there was any point to doing so. I also think a small sample in one season is far too little time to formulate a meaningful career judgment. Your mileage may vary. |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 12, 2019 11:53:55 GMT -5
So after 55 passes you can assess that Lock is on a higher level as a football player than Jones will ever be? And please don’t misconstrue this as me being a Jones-homer. I’m not. I’m just shaking my head at your assault on logic. What I can assess is that taking Josh Allen at number six and then taking a AB later on made a heck of a lot more sense than grabbing Daniel Jones with that pick and plenty of people agree with that. Josh Allen was the way to go with number six pick. People like who? |
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 12, 2019 11:59:49 GMT -5
I think Jacksonville will be cleaning house after the season. Not sure TC makes it, will be shocked if Marrone survives it. That's what I'm thinking and I'm glad the bridge was burned between TC and the owners. I was in Jax for thanksgiving and those fans want some heads to roll just like us. Jacksonville? You could of went to Saudi Arabia and you wouldn’t have known the difference. I went to Jacksonville once years ago, I left there bathing myself in rubbing alcohol when I got home. I could have sworn one of the alligators told me to turn around and never come back. But would I go there again? Maybe.. |
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Post by Delicreep on Dec 12, 2019 12:09:33 GMT -5
What I can assess is that taking Josh Allen at number six and then taking a AB later on made a heck of a lot more sense than grabbing Daniel Jones with that pick and plenty of people agree with that. Josh Allen was the way to go with number six pick. People like who? What's his face...and the guy with the hat. That's two right there...what more do you want? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 12:10:26 GMT -5
That's what I'm thinking and I'm glad the bridge was burned between TC and the owners. I was in Jax for thanksgiving and those fans want some heads to roll just like us. Jacksonville? You could of went to Saudi Arabia and you wouldn’t have known the difference. I went to Jacksonville once years ago, I left there bathing myself in rubbing alcohol when I got home. I could have sworn one of the alligators told me to turn around and never come back. But would I go there again? Maybe.. We are regulars down there staying with some friends. Sorry your experience was a bad one.. |
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 12, 2019 12:14:09 GMT -5
Jacksonville? You could of went to Saudi Arabia and you wouldn’t have known the difference. I went to Jacksonville once years ago, I left there bathing myself in rubbing alcohol when I got home. I could have sworn one of the alligators told me to turn around and never come back. But would I go there again? Maybe.. We are regulars down there staying with some friends. Sorry your experience was a bad one.. Wasn’t that bad. Not a place I would venture too often, and I love Florida. I’m actually looking at buying another house on the West Cost. Dunedin/Palm Harbor area. Lived down there for over 10 years. Great time. I want to become a snow bird or whatever the hell that is. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 12:35:34 GMT -5
We are regulars down there staying with some friends. Sorry your experience was a bad one.. Wasn’t that bad. Not a place I would venture too often, and I love Florida. I’m actually looking at buying another house on the West Cost. Dunedin/Palm Harbor area. Lived down there for over 10 years. Great time. I want to become a snow bird or whatever the hell that is. We are also going to be going south but will probably end up in Georgia or NC.. Parents have a house by Hilton head so that house might be available when we make the move in 10 years.. |
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Post by Delicreep on Dec 12, 2019 15:36:56 GMT -5
What you cannot seem to understand is that it is way too early to make that call. Everyone seems to understand this but you. What you can’t understand is that so far both players, Daniel Jones and Josh Allen are playing exactly how they were expected to coming out of the draft. Daniel Jones hasn’t performed well, Josh Allen has. Daniel Jones hasn’t played like a 1st round pick. Josh Allen has played like a 1st round pick and this shouldn’t surprise anyone except for those that are clueless. And if my cruise on the Titanic taught me anything, it's that anything starts off great will surely end great! That's just science. |
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 12, 2019 15:39:30 GMT -5
What you cannot seem to understand is that it is way too early to make that call. Everyone seems to understand this but you. What you can’t understand is that so far both players, Daniel Jones and Josh Allen are playing exactly how they were expected to coming out of the draft. Daniel Jones hasn’t performed well, Josh Allen has. Daniel Jones hasn’t played like a 1st round pick. Josh Allen has played like a 1st round pick and this shouldn’t surprise anyone except for those that are clueless. Daniel Jones hasn’t played like a first round pick? Stop watching football dude - it’s not for you |
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Post by Sarcasman on Dec 12, 2019 15:49:09 GMT -5
What you cannot seem to understand is that it is way too early to make that call. Everyone seems to understand this but you. What you can’t understand is that so far both players, Daniel Jones and Josh Allen are playing exactly how they were expected to coming out of the draft. Daniel Jones hasn’t performed well, Josh Allen has. Daniel Jones hasn’t played like a 1st round pick. Josh Allen has played like a 1st round pick and this shouldn’t surprise anyone except for those that are clueless.  |
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 12, 2019 17:11:38 GMT -5
Daniel Jones hasn’t played like a first round pick? Stop watching football dude - it’s not for you If you think Daniel Jones has played worthy of his draft slot so far, that tells me exactly how little you know about football. We’ll soon see who’s right, won’t we my limited little friend? |
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Dec 12, 2019 17:17:37 GMT -5
What you can’t understand is that so far both players, Daniel Jones and Josh Allen are playing exactly how they were expected to coming out of the draft. Daniel Jones hasn’t performed well, Josh Allen has. Daniel Jones hasn’t played like a 1st round pick. Josh Allen has played like a 1st round pick and this shouldn’t surprise anyone except for those that are clueless. And if my cruise on the Titanic taught me anything, it's that anything starts off great will surely end great! That's just science. I dont agree with him Jones has looked like a first rd pick imo. However he has a point you didnt think Allen would be a franchise QB. |
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