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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 6:35:59 GMT -5
Once again we have front row seats to a couple of veteran players being given playing time because of their contracts
1. Jon Stewart. What else is there to say? He is 240 pounds and tip toes he way to negative yards every touch. His blitz pickup isn’t very good. He has no ability to run stretch plays. He cannot catch. He does not play special teams. The fumble should be the nail in the coffin. There are at least 3-4 more talented guys behind him in the RB room. And some of those guys play special teams.
2. Pat Omameh. He was up against a monster in Williams but even so I’m not sure if he won a single snap. Bad in every facet and has not looked good at all. #2 OL came in vs Jets starters and was running the ball mich better largely because Greco et al were actually making blocks
Neither of these players deserve playing time with the first team. Stewart does not even deserve his roster spot.
Giants save 725K for cutting Stewart but have to pay 3.2 mil in dead money. They should take that 3.2 mill straight from Gettlemans pocket. Take the savings and admit a mistake.
Omameh should lose his starting gig. More competition at RG. Let’s see Greco/Jones
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 25, 2018 6:41:40 GMT -5
Once again we have front row seats to a couple of veteran players being given playing time because of their contracts 1. Jon Stewart. What else is there to say? He is 240 pounds and tip toes he way to negative yards every touch. His blitz pickup isn’t very good. He has no ability to run stretch plays. He cannot catch. He does not play special teams. The fumble should be the nail in the coffin. There are at least 3-4 more talented guys behind him in the RB room. And some of those guys play special teams. 2. Pat Omameh. He was up against a monster in Williams but even so I’m not sure if he won a single snap. Bad in every facet and has not looked good at all. #2 OL came in vs Jets starters and was running the ball mich better largely because Greco et al were actually making blocks Neither of these players deserve playing time with the first team. Stewart does not even deserve his roster spot. Giants save 725K for cutting Stewart but have to pay 3.2 mil in dead money. They should take that 3.2 mill straight from Gettlemans pocket. Take the savings and admit a mistake. Omameh should lose his starting gig. More competition at RG. Let’s see Greco/Jones Pretty much spot on. |
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 25, 2018 7:01:34 GMT -5
I agree but I didn't realize he'd still be owed that much if cut.
Maybe he can keep the bench from blowing away.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 7:35:50 GMT -5
I agree but I didn't realize he'd still be owed that much if cut. Maybe he can keep the bench from blowing away. I again understand the thinking behind this but it's not working out ,cut him , eat the cap number and keep a good young back .  ) I believe they save 725 K on the cap but would have to pay him 3.2 million or if pocket...I might be misinterpreting that |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 25, 2018 7:39:00 GMT -5
Once again we have front row seats to a couple of veteran players being given playing time because of their contracts 1. Jon Stewart. What else is there to say? He is 240 pounds and tip toes he way to negative yards every touch. His blitz pickup isn’t very good. He has no ability to run stretch plays. He cannot catch. He does not play special teams. The fumble should be the nail in the coffin. There are at least 3-4 more talented guys behind him in the RB room. And some of those guys play special teams. 2. Pat Omameh. He was up against a monster in Williams but even so I’m not sure if he won a single snap. Bad in every facet and has not looked good at all. #2 OL came in vs Jets starters and was running the ball mich better largely because Greco et al were actually making blocks Neither of these players deserve playing time with the first team. Stewart does not even deserve his roster spot. Giants save 725K for cutting Stewart but have to pay 3.2 mil in dead money. They should take that 3.2 mill straight from Gettlemans pocket. Take the savings and admit a mistake. Omameh should lose his starting gig. More competition at RG. Let’s see Greco/Jones Sorry...cant judge any of the RBs last night. The oline flat out stunk until the second teamers got in. Stewart's fumble is all on him without a doubt. Stewart will not be a starter anyway and Omameh looked awful. |
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Post by Eazy E on Aug 25, 2018 7:46:25 GMT -5
Wow Stewart is like a bowling ball out there stuck in the mud. Im all about having veteran leadership on a team,but ......... hopefully they are trying save the young rbs, idk. Martin better not get cut because of this guy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 7:58:44 GMT -5
I agree but I didn't realize he'd still be owed that much if cut. Maybe he can keep the bench from blowing away. I again understand the thinking behind this but it's not working out ,cut him , eat the cap number and keep a good young back . ) Maybe we can acquire Christian McCaffrey for our #3. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 8:00:54 GMT -5
Wow Stewart is like a bowling ball out there stuck in the mud. Im all about having veteran leadership on a team,but ......... hopefully they are trying save the young rbs, idk. Martin better not get cut because of this guy. You can’t be a leader if you’re not even pulling your own weight. |
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 25, 2018 8:01:36 GMT -5
I again understand the thinking behind this but it's not working out ,cut him , eat the cap number and keep a good young back .  Maybe we can acquire Christian McCaffrey for our #3. Maybe we can get Cam Newton for Kyle Lauletta |
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 25, 2018 8:06:32 GMT -5
The Stewart thing is tough to judge. He obviously stinks on the field. When we signed him, back on the old boards, most people knew he was not being signed to play football. I would like to know how/if he is helping the younger RBs in the RB room. If he is doing that then we can keep him around. I don't expect him to play much during the season. It should be the Barkley/Gallman show all year.
I honestly haven't watched enough to Omaha to make a call on him. Chemistry is very important though and I'm not sure a change will be coming this late into the preseason. The right side of the line is the weaker side for sure. Engram and Ellison will have to shift that way to help out often is my guess.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 8:10:11 GMT -5
Maybe we can acquire Christian McCaffrey for our #3. Maybe we can get Cam Newton for Kyle Lauletta Cam’s not a Gettleman guy. Plus...Cam is actually good. |
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Post by Speedman on Aug 25, 2018 8:28:09 GMT -5
The Stewart thing is tough to judge. He obviously stinks on the field. When we signed him, back on the old boards, most people knew he was not being signed to play football. I would like to know how/if he is helping the younger RBs in the RB room. If he is doing that then we can keep him around. I don't expect him to play much during the season. It should be the Barkley/Gallman show all year. I honestly haven't watched enough to Omaha to make a call on him. Chemistry is very important though and I'm not sure a change will be coming this late into the preseason. The right side of the line is the weaker side for sure. Engram and Ellison will have to shift that way to help out often is my guess. They should make Stewart a RB assistant coach and keep one of the young RB’s on the roster. |
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 25, 2018 8:29:14 GMT -5
Maybe we can get Cam Newton for Kyle Lauletta Cam’s not a Gettleman guy. Plus...Cam is actually good. Not when the big game counts. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 25, 2018 8:31:47 GMT -5
Once again we have front row seats to a couple of veteran players being given playing time because of their contracts 1. Jon Stewart. What else is there to say? He is 240 pounds and tip toes he way to negative yards every touch. His blitz pickup isn’t very good. He has no ability to run stretch plays. He cannot catch. He does not play special teams. The fumble should be the nail in the coffin. There are at least 3-4 more talented guys behind him in the RB room. And some of those guys play special teams. 2. Pat Omameh. He was up against a monster in Williams but even so I’m not sure if he won a single snap. Bad in every facet and has not looked good at all. #2 OL came in vs Jets starters and was running the ball mich better largely because Greco et al were actually making blocks Neither of these players deserve playing time with the first team. Stewart does not even deserve his roster spot. Giants save 725K for cutting Stewart but have to pay 3.2 mil in dead money. They should take that 3.2 mill straight from Gettlemans pocket. Take the savings and admit a mistake. Omameh should lose his starting gig. More competition at RG. Let’s see Greco/Jones I want to see Jones and Grecco get a real shot at starting center guard. |
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 25, 2018 8:42:37 GMT -5
They should make Stewart a RB assistant coach and keep one of the young RB’s on the roster. I have thought about why they didn't do that from the start. I have a feeling they wanted a guy that was another player the young guys could relate to. A relationship with a player is always different than one with a coach. Seeing this vet prepare for a game, the way he goes about practice, how to study film ect. I could be wrong of course. I just hope Stewart has more value than what we see on the field. |
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Post by Speedman on Aug 25, 2018 9:00:44 GMT -5
They should make Stewart a RB assistant coach and keep one of the young RB’s on the roster. I have thought about why they didn't do that from the start. I have a feeling they wanted a guy that was another player the young guys could relate to. A relationship with a player is always different than one with a coach. Seeing this vet prepare for a game, the way he goes about practice, how to study film ect. I could be wrong of course. I just hope Stewart has more value than what we see on the field. Good point. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 25, 2018 9:05:09 GMT -5
Maybe we can acquire Christian McCaffrey for our #3. Maybe we can get Cam Newton for Kyle Lauletta That would solve the bridge to the new QB adequately. Where do I sign? |
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 25, 2018 9:12:01 GMT -5
Cam’s not a Gettleman guy. Plus...Cam is actually good. Not when the big game counts. He is good and since he has most of the media buying, it might keep the drama and noise down for an additional year or two which may get them to their next franchise QB. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 9:26:58 GMT -5
Once again we have front row seats to a couple of veteran players being given playing time because of their contracts 1. Jon Stewart. What else is there to say? He is 240 pounds and tip toes he way to negative yards every touch. His blitz pickup isn’t very good. He has no ability to run stretch plays. He cannot catch. He does not play special teams. The fumble should be the nail in the coffin. There are at least 3-4 more talented guys behind him in the RB room. And some of those guys play special teams. 2. Pat Omameh. He was up against a monster in Williams but even so I’m not sure if he won a single snap. Bad in every facet and has not looked good at all. #2 OL came in vs Jets starters and was running the ball mich better largely because Greco et al were actually making blocks Neither of these players deserve playing time with the first team. Stewart does not even deserve his roster spot. Giants save 725K for cutting Stewart but have to pay 3.2 mil in dead money. They should take that 3.2 mill straight from Gettlemans pocket. Take the savings and admit a mistake. Omameh should lose his starting gig. More competition at RG. Let’s see Greco/Jones I think we accidentally signed Jon Stewart from the Daily Show on Comedy Central. Can't be the pro ball player out there looking like that. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 25, 2018 9:42:12 GMT -5
I was ok with the Stewart signing, thought he'd bring good veteran leadership. But his play on the field is really poor. I'd rather that spot go to a young guy. I'm comfortable with Saquon/Gallman at 1-2.
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Post by scoostraw on Aug 25, 2018 10:12:37 GMT -5
The Stewart thing is tough to judge. He obviously stinks on the field. When we signed him, back on the old boards, most people knew he was not being signed to play football. I would like to know how/if he is helping the younger RBs in the RB room. If he is doing that then we can keep him around. I don't expect him to play much during the season. It should be the Barkley/Gallman show all year. I honestly haven't watched enough to Omaha to make a call on him. Chemistry is very important though and I'm not sure a change will be coming this late into the preseason. The right side of the line is the weaker side for sure. Engram and Ellison will have to shift that way to help out often is my guess. They should make Stewart a RB assistant coach and keep one of the young RB’s on the roster. You took the words right out of my mouth.
Let's see how smart Gettleman is with this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 10:22:13 GMT -5
Once again we have front row seats to a couple of veteran players being given playing time because of their contracts 1. Jon Stewart. What else is there to say? He is 240 pounds and tip toes he way to negative yards every touch. His blitz pickup isn’t very good. He has no ability to run stretch plays. He cannot catch. He does not play special teams. The fumble should be the nail in the coffin. There are at least 3-4 more talented guys behind him in the RB room. And some of those guys play special teams. 2. Pat Omameh. He was up against a monster in Williams but even so I’m not sure if he won a single snap. Bad in every facet and has not looked good at all. #2 OL came in vs Jets starters and was running the ball mich better largely because Greco et al were actually making blocks Neither of these players deserve playing time with the first team. Stewart does not even deserve his roster spot. Giants save 725K for cutting Stewart but have to pay 3.2 mil in dead money. They should take that 3.2 mill straight from Gettlemans pocket. Take the savings and admit a mistake. Omameh should lose his starting gig. More competition at RG. Let’s see Greco/Jones The Stewart signing made no sense at all to me from the start, giving this Omameh guy 5 mil. a season to be the second coming of Flowers didn't make much sense either. It looks like DG certainly isn't going to be the savior here. |
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 25, 2018 11:05:18 GMT -5
The Stewart signing made no sense at all to me from the start, giving this Omameh guy 5 mil. a season to be the second coming of Flowers didn't make much sense either. It looks like DG certainly isn't going to be the savior here. Flowers has had 3 years, Omameh has had 3 preseason games. I little too soon to cast him out and declare DG a failure IMO. I'd at least wait until DGs team plays a single real game before shipping him off. |
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Post by Jomo on Aug 25, 2018 15:50:21 GMT -5
Maybe we can acquire Christian McCaffrey for our #3. Maybe we can get Cam Newton for Kyle Lauletta Now you're talking! |
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Post by goldenratio on Aug 25, 2018 16:11:42 GMT -5
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Post by goldenratio on Aug 25, 2018 16:13:23 GMT -5
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Post by Parademon1 on Aug 25, 2018 17:11:09 GMT -5
Shurmer shoulda brought in Tiki as an assistant RBs coach instead of signing Stewart. SB coulda learned a lot more from Tiki being that he was a 3 down back & one of the best in NFL history.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 25, 2018 19:28:28 GMT -5
The Stewart signing made no sense at all to me from the start, giving this Omameh guy 5 mil. a season to be the second coming of Flowers didn't make much sense either. It looks like DG certainly isn't going to be the savior here. Flowers has had 3 years, Omameh has had 3 preseason games. I little too soon to cast him out and declare DG a failure IMO. I'd at least wait until DGs team plays a single real game before shipping him off. Omameh has had five seasons and is on his 4th team. He is a career back up and spot starter. Not sure why they think he should start at RG for us. He is not very good.
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Post by nysports98 on Aug 25, 2018 20:53:44 GMT -5
Shurmer shoulda brought in Tiki as an assistant RBs coach instead of signing Stewart. SB coulda learned a lot more from Tiki being that he was a 3 down back & one of the best in NFL history.
Brilliant lol - rather than bring in a Stewart who is a great pass blocking HB, let's have a rookie known for blocking in college as the only HB who can block and bring in Tiki Barber who is despised by the fan base, threw the QB under the bus many times since retirement and has ZERO coaching experience lol
Make it stop, good lord.
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Post by Parademon1 on Aug 25, 2018 21:08:46 GMT -5
Speak for yourself, I have never despised the guy for speaking his mind & not being PC. Tiki just like SB, was a 3 down back & the best RB in Giants history. There's a ton he could teach SB about the position. Sorry his comments bout lil Eli hurt your wittle feelings.
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