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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 14:39:11 GMT -5
Well with Jenkins Gone our Corner Backs consist of Baker, Ballentine, Beal, Haley and some guy named Hamilton. Wow 😳 Even Andy Dalton aka the Red Rocket can light these guys up. We have a Great Chance of going 2-14
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Post by jb456 on Dec 13, 2019 15:03:21 GMT -5
Well with Jenkins Gone our Corner Backs consist of Baker, Ballentine, Beal, Haley and some guy named Hamilton. Wow 😳 Even Andy Dalton aka the Red Rocket can light these guys up. We have a Great Chance of going 2-14 LMAO, they probably released Jenkins to ensure that there was even a good chance to lose to the Redskins. I actually think Miami is going to light the Giants defense up.
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Post by hadenough on Dec 13, 2019 15:03:33 GMT -5
I'm ready for it...let's see what they've got. Maybe Bettcher will finally just let them play. Let them get up on people and cover and see how they do.
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Post by lasion2 on Dec 13, 2019 15:11:11 GMT -5
I'm ready for it...let's see what they've got. Maybe Bettcher will finally just let them play. Let them get up on people and cover and see how they do. Your lips to gods ears. Spartan kick into the big boy pool.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2019 15:11:26 GMT -5
It would be telling if all of a sudden the secondary looks like they are on the same page and actually shows progress as a very young unit
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 15:26:09 GMT -5
It would be telling if all of a sudden the secondary looks like they are on the same page and actually shows progress as a very young unit Also highly unlikely..
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Post by jb456 on Dec 13, 2019 15:30:26 GMT -5
It would be telling if all of a sudden the secondary looks like they are on the same page and actually shows progress as a very young unit Why would the secondary look better after losing their best corner? I'm not saying Jenkins was awesome but he has pretty good with the exception of the Evan's debacle...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 15:53:35 GMT -5
It would be telling if all of a sudden the secondary looks like they are on the same page and actually shows progress as a very young unit Why would the secondary look better after losing their best corner? I'm not saying Jenkins was awesome but he has pretty good with the exception of the Evan's debacle... It’s almost so bad now that you just have to sit back and laugh 😆
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Dec 13, 2019 15:59:56 GMT -5
God help us. lol
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Dec 13, 2019 16:01:50 GMT -5
Well with Jenkins Gone our Corner Backs consist of Baker, Ballentine, Beal, Haley and some guy named Hamilton. Wow 😳 Even Andy Dalton aka the Red Rocket can light these guys up. We have a Great Chance of going 2-14 LMAO, they probably released Jenkins to ensure that there was even a good chance to lose to the Redskins. I actually think Miami is going to light the Giants defense up. the spread is the Giants -5. odds makers say we have a 64 percent chance to win. I think we might
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Post by jb456 on Dec 13, 2019 16:13:03 GMT -5
LMAO, they probably released Jenkins to ensure that there was even a good chance to lose to the Redskins. I actually think Miami is going to light the Giants defense up. the spread is the Giants -5. odds makers say we have a 64 percent chance to win. I think we might They might have this one wrong. I think the Giants will need 24-28 to win this game now. I dont see Eli getting 3-4 TDS.
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Post by DrRumack on Dec 13, 2019 16:25:52 GMT -5
Well with Jenkins Gone our Corner Backs consist of Baker, Ballentine, Beal, Haley and some guy named Hamilton. Wow 😳 Even Andy Dalton aka the Red Rocket can light these guys up. We have a Great Chance of going 2-14 With Jenkins: 28th scoring defense (27.8 ppg) 27th total defense (376.3 ypg) 26th passing defense (261.8 ypg) 28th passing defense (101.3 QB rating) I mean.... we were pretty much getting lit up every week with him. So what's the difference?
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Post by McCherry on Dec 13, 2019 16:44:54 GMT -5
We're going to invest heavily in the secondary this offseason. Free agency, premium draft picks. The big challenge of the new staff will be to turn Baker around. Beal can run but is so far behind, who knows if he'll ever stay healthy enough to get to where he should be. Ballantine will just be another player in the mix.
And if Gettleman goes too it just throws a bigger question mark on everything.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Dec 13, 2019 16:58:59 GMT -5
the spread is the Giants -5. odds makers say we have a 64 percent chance to win. I think we might They might have this one wrong. I think the Giants will need 24-28 to win this game now. I dont see Eli getting 3-4 TDS. IDK the fins are ranked near the bottom in avg points scored , rushing yards and total yards.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2019 17:06:11 GMT -5
We're going to invest heavily in the secondary this offseason. Free agency, premium draft picks. The big challenge of the new staff will be to turn Baker around. Beal can run but is so far behind, who knows if he'll ever stay healthy enough to get to where he should be. Ballantine will just be another player in the mix. And if Gettleman goes too it just throws a bigger question mark on everything. We just spent premium picks in the draft this past offseason. After 1 year you want to throw all these players out? So which position are you willing to neglect to spend all these recourses on Pass rush? O line? Linebacker WR(and yes this is a need as well)? Better idea Sign one big free agent (Byron Jones),let the kids develop,invest in the front 7(resign Golden,William's and get Chase Young) That will help a young secondary probably moreso then deleting a bunch of 1st and 2nd year players that are just getting experience and playing
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Post by snyder55 on Dec 13, 2019 17:13:34 GMT -5
We're going to invest heavily in the secondary this offseason. Free agency, premium draft picks. The big challenge of the new staff will be to turn Baker around. Beal can run but is so far behind, who knows if he'll ever stay healthy enough to get to where he should be. Ballantine will just be another player in the mix. And if Gettleman goes too it just throws a bigger question mark on everything. We just spent premium picks in the draft this past offseason. After 1 year you want to throw all these players out? So which position are you willing to neglect to spend all these recourses on Pass rush? O line? Linebacker WR(and yes this is a need as well)? Better idea Sign one big free agent (Byron Jones),let the kids develop,invest in the front 7(resign Golden,William's and get Chase Young) That will help a young secondary probably moreso then deleting a bunch of 1st and 2nd year players that are just getting experience and playing you're right about this, pass rush does wonders for a secondary.
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Post by McCherry on Dec 13, 2019 17:37:52 GMT -5
We're going to invest heavily in the secondary this offseason. Free agency, premium draft picks. The big challenge of the new staff will be to turn Baker around. Beal can run but is so far behind, who knows if he'll ever stay healthy enough to get to where he should be. Ballantine will just be another player in the mix. And if Gettleman goes too it just throws a bigger question mark on everything. We just spent premium picks in the draft this past offseason. After 1 year you want to throw all these players out? So which position are you willing to neglect to spend all these recourses on Pass rush? O line? Linebacker WR(and yes this is a need as well)? Better idea Sign one big free agent (Byron Jones),let the kids develop,invest in the front 7(resign Golden,William's and get Chase Young) That will help a young secondary probably moreso then deleting a bunch of 1st and 2nd year players that are just getting experience and playing A new staff will have no connection to players like Beal, Haley and Ballantine. They may (and often do) have their own options. If our GM goes too, it's wide open. Right off the bat we need a starting S and CB, and I think they'll at least want some competition for Baker. We'll have to see how the roster plays out in FA. However we fill those needs, I think they're as important the others you mentioned.
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Post by ox1 on Dec 13, 2019 17:38:16 GMT -5
Jenkins gone?? Now who are we going to get to play 10 yards off the LOS, on every play.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2019 17:46:30 GMT -5
We just spent premium picks in the draft this past offseason. After 1 year you want to throw all these players out? So which position are you willing to neglect to spend all these recourses on Pass rush? O line? Linebacker WR(and yes this is a need as well)? Better idea Sign one big free agent (Byron Jones),let the kids develop,invest in the front 7(resign Golden,William's and get Chase Young) That will help a young secondary probably moreso then deleting a bunch of 1st and 2nd year players that are just getting experience and playing A new staff will have no connection to players like Beal, Haley and Ballantine. They may (and often do) have their own options. If our GM goes too, it's wide open. Right off the bat we need a starting S and CB, and I think they'll at least want some competition for Baker. We'll have to see how the roster plays out in FA. However we fill those needs, I think they're as important the others you mentioned. So you are already calling Love a bust? Beal and Ballentine don't have near enough playing time on tape to make a judgement A new staff that would be hopeful as many solutions are on the roster as well...
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Post by katcavage75 on Dec 13, 2019 17:52:07 GMT -5
Too early to start calling them "the Killer Bees"?
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Post by McCherry on Dec 13, 2019 17:59:48 GMT -5
A new staff will have no connection to players like Beal, Haley and Ballantine. They may (and often do) have their own options. If our GM goes too, it's wide open. Right off the bat we need a starting S and CB, and I think they'll at least want some competition for Baker. We'll have to see how the roster plays out in FA. However we fill those needs, I think they're as important the others you mentioned. So you are already calling Love a bust?Beal and Ballentine don't have near enough playing time on tape to make a judgement A new staff that would be hopeful as many solutions are on the roster as well... Of course not, but nobody is penciling Love as a starter based on what they've seen so far. All of the young DB's should be in the mix, but unlike this past season they're going to have to actually compete for a roster spot. It's the worst secondary in football for years, I think it's going to be a tough sell to add just one player and hope these kids learn how to play.
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 13, 2019 18:07:08 GMT -5
The Giants secondary have given up almost 2 miles of yards on defense. So when you drive to go pick up milk at your local store just think of our beloved Giants secondary.
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Post by lt56 on Dec 13, 2019 18:31:40 GMT -5
NOBODY is going to look good in this Bettcher coverage Scheme
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Post by DrRumack on Dec 13, 2019 18:42:15 GMT -5
Jenkins gone?? Now who are we going to get to play 10 yards off the LOS, on every play. Baker
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Post by ox1 on Dec 13, 2019 19:13:13 GMT -5
Jenkins gone?? Now who are we going to get to play 10 yards off the LOS, on every play. Baker I figured out the issue, we were supposed to everyone playing 10 yards off, not just Jenkins and apparently Baker??
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Post by IrishMike on Dec 13, 2019 19:48:04 GMT -5
I'm ready for it...let's see what they've got. Maybe Bettcher will finally just let them play. Let them get up on people and cover and see how they do. I read a good article on how complicated his coverage schemes are. I am 100% sure that is why these guys struggled so much this season. Also why Baker has been fantastic the last 3 games. I am positive with some more time Ballentine and Beal will be fine. Going into next season with Baker, Ballentine, Beal, Love and Peppers I feel very good about. They are all very talented, we just need them to learn this crazy system.
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Post by giantsback2020 on Dec 14, 2019 8:30:30 GMT -5
Well with Jenkins Gone our Corner Backs consist of Baker, Ballentine, Beal, Haley and some guy named Hamilton. Wow 😳 Even Andy Dalton aka the Red Rocket can light these guys up. We have a Great Chance of going 2-14 LMAO, they probably released Jenkins to ensure that there was even a good chance to lose to the Redskins. I actually think Miami is going to light the Giants defense up. The Giants own # 2 at 3-13. 1 win is permitted. I want to lose to Miami as owning the Skins has been the one constant during these down years.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 9:01:46 GMT -5
Well with Jenkins Gone our Corner Backs consist of Baker, Ballentine, Beal, Haley and some guy named Hamilton. Wow 😳 Even Andy Dalton aka the Red Rocket can light these guys up. We have a Great Chance of going 2-14 With Jenkins: 28th scoring defense (27.8 ppg) 27th total defense (376.3 ypg) 26th passing defense (261.8 ypg) 28th passing defense (101.3 QB rating) I mean.... we were pretty much getting lit up every week with him. So what's the difference? True but you have to admit it is actually worse without him. Instead of throwing to the opposite side of the field he is playing. QBs can now throw it everywhere
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 9:04:24 GMT -5
We're going to invest heavily in the secondary this offseason. Free agency, premium draft picks. The big challenge of the new staff will be to turn Baker around. Beal can run but is so far behind, who knows if he'll ever stay healthy enough to get to where he should be. Ballantine will just be another player in the mix. And if Gettleman goes too it just throws a bigger question mark on everything. We just spent premium picks in the draft this past offseason. After 1 year you want to throw all these players out? So which position are you willing to neglect to spend all these recourses on Pass rush? O line? Linebacker WR(and yes this is a need as well)? Better idea Sign one big free agent (Byron Jones),let the kids develop,invest in the front 7(resign Golden,William's and get Chase Young) That will help a young secondary probably moreso then deleting a bunch of 1st and 2nd year players that are just getting experience and playing Getting Jones has to be a high priority. Bethea has to go too. He is way to slow and old now
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 9:05:22 GMT -5
Jenkins gone?? Now who are we going to get to play 10 yards off the LOS, on every play. That’s on the coaches not putting him in press coverage
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