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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 9:35:51 GMT -5
Sooooo I know it’s doesn’t matter but let’s play what if’s.
Would our team be better going into the 2020 draft this year if instead of drafting Daniel Jones and #6 last year we take Josh Allen. Ride Eli for one more year (I mean we already paid him his big salary). This year we would have been in a position to get a Great College QB. Or are you guys that Happy with Daniel Jones
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Post by bringsimmsback on Dec 14, 2019 9:46:33 GMT -5
Given the failure rate of even great college QBs, I'm glad, in retrospect, we seem to have gotten a good one. It was basically 50-50 and we came up heads.
I believe we would have won more with Eli, so we may have had to give up draft capital to move up.
That being said, I wanted to move back two years ago and take L. Jackson with extra picks in late round 1. Also wanted Josh Allen at 6, and either Grier or Lock (don't remember which I liked and I'm too lazy to go back and look at my posts) in late round 1. I was also ok with skipping QB all together with the expectation of having to move up next year if we did as well as I hoped.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Dec 14, 2019 10:01:39 GMT -5
This QB class was rated higher by the so called experts, magazines, etc. There could be 5 QB's in the 1st rd. Burrows, Tua, Hurst, Herbert, and Fromm. But if we could get Young it could wind up as good or better with Young and Jones. Rather than if we took Allen and a QB from this year.
Of course depending on Jones I'm personally not sold on him. But who knows which one of this years QB's will be really good or less than expected. The odds of all 5 QB's being successful are a long shot to say the least.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 10:12:33 GMT -5
Sooooo I know it’s doesn’t matter but let’s play what if’s. Would our team be better going into the 2020 draft this year if instead of drafting Daniel Jones and #6 last year we take Josh Allen. Ride Eli for one more year (I mean we already paid him his big salary). This year we would have been in a position to get a Great College QB. Or are you guys that Happy with Daniel Jones Tough question at this point in Jones career if you go back to Allen at the same point. Jones is more refined a better thrower of the ball at the same stage of their careers. Jones can still give you some of what Allen does with athletism. Now the question is will he progress like Allen has he put a ton of work in and has grown through his sophomore year, the Bills also helped him out got some dependable weapons and have a defense that can get off the field and get him the ball back, last there OL is about 2 payers ahead of ours. The short of it is if Jones comes back better and grows through his sophomore year to be a solid franchise QB DG did the right thing. Barkely isn't gonna be injured for ever he will be him self again and they will have their franchise QB and the best player out of the 2018 draft. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 10:19:55 GMT -5
Sooooo I know it’s doesn’t matter but let’s play what if’s. Would our team be better going into the 2020 draft this year if instead of drafting Daniel Jones and #6 last year we take Josh Allen. Ride Eli for one more year (I mean we already paid him his big salary). This year we would have been in a position to get a Great College QB. Or are you guys that Happy with Daniel Jones Messed up Josh Allen the pass rusher Hind sight is tough but a solid franchise QB trumps everything and Bakely might have been hurt but he will pass 1000 combined Maybe even 1000 rushing but he will have to have a good last 3 games I would take a top 3 RB if not the best when healthy along with franchise QB over any one player besides a better franchise QB. |
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Post by Jomo on Dec 14, 2019 10:48:57 GMT -5
Sooooo I know it’s doesn’t matter but let’s play what if’s. Would our team be better going into the 2020 draft this year if instead of drafting Daniel Jones and #6 last year we take Josh Allen. Ride Eli for one more year (I mean we already paid him his big salary). This year we would have been in a position to get a Great College QB. Or are you guys that Happy with Daniel Jones This is really too much Monday morning QBing. ie you tell me which player has panned out best and I'll create a scenario that we actually drafted him. Even though Allen looks like the best of last year's lot, there is no chance in hell that he would have been the QB taken. No one was suggesting anything like Allen last year, right? If you want to roll around scenarios on Darnold, that would be a realistic look back. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 14, 2019 11:04:09 GMT -5
Sooooo I know it’s doesn’t matter but let’s play what if’s. Would our team be better going into the 2020 draft this year if instead of drafting Daniel Jones and #6 last year we take Josh Allen. Ride Eli for one more year (I mean we already paid him his big salary). This year we would have been in a position to get a Great College QB. Or are you guys that Happy with Daniel Jones This is really too much Monday morning QBing. ie you tell me which player has panned out best and I'll create a scenario that we actually drafted him. Even though Allen looks like the best of last year's lot, there is no chance in hell that he would have been the QB taken. No one was suggesting anything like Allen last year, right? If you want to roll around scenarios on Darnold, that would be a realistic look back. You think Allen looks better than Jackson? Lamar's season has been off the charts. |
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Post by shocknaweny on Dec 14, 2019 11:12:12 GMT -5
If we get Chase Young I am totally okay with how things turned out
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Post by mj312 on Dec 14, 2019 11:23:25 GMT -5
Sooooo I know it’s doesn’t matter but let’s play what if’s. Would our team be better going into the 2020 draft this year if instead of drafting Daniel Jones and #6 last year we take Josh Allen. Ride Eli for one more year (I mean we already paid him his big salary). This year we would have been in a position to get a Great College QB. Or are you guys that Happy with Daniel Jones Yeah I think that’s exaclty what they should have done but there’s no doubt that Eli’s the problem narrative played a big part in jones . I think jones is a good player and should develop nicely if given the players around him but picking him at 6 was a reach pick . Count how many games this team has lost over the last 4-5 years in the closing minutes because we can’t get a stop when we need one . There’s no doubt that we needed to get a replacement for Eli but the way we did it just completely lacked any planning .. we had holes everywhere and still do and we took a QB with a 6 pick and kept a QB making 23 million .. zero sense .. We needed josh Allen .. we won’t win until we can rush the passer and cover tight ends .. there is very little difference between jones and Eli except that jones can run here and there . We still aren’t winning .. Josh Allen was an immediate day 1 upgrade over anything we had . It’s not every year a talent like him comes out. Passing him was a mistake .. |
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Post by DrRumack on Dec 14, 2019 11:24:53 GMT -5
Sooooo I know it’s doesn’t matter but let’s play what if’s. Would our team be better going into the 2020 draft this year if instead of drafting Daniel Jones and #6 last year we take Josh Allen. Ride Eli for one more year (I mean we already paid him his big salary). This year we would have been in a position to get a Great College QB. Or are you guys that Happy with Daniel Jones This is really too much Monday morning QBing. ie you tell me which player has panned out best and I'll create a scenario that we actually drafted him. Even though Allen looks like the best of last year's lot, there is no chance in hell that he would have been the QB taken. No one was suggesting anything like Allen last year, right? If you want to roll around scenarios on Darnold, that would be a realistic look back. Lamar Jackson is going to win the MVP |
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Post by giantsback2020 on Dec 14, 2019 11:50:55 GMT -5
Our bad drafts go back 9, 10, 11 years. This last draft is probdbly the most promising, but it’s too new to tell it can easily end up as bad as its predecessors. The Flowers, Apple, and Barkley drafts were the worst as far as I’m concerned given players available v who we took. I hated all those selections from the moment of those selections. Jones I didn’t hate, but I’d take taken the edge rusher and let the QB board come to me, Jones has a skill set, but it did not scream you have to have me at 6. I think he’s got a Chance same as I think Lock and Stidham have a chance. We need this next guy to know what he’s doing regarding QB development which is why Rhule and Rivera are not fits for the Giants.
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Post by IrishMike on Dec 14, 2019 19:12:13 GMT -5
We took a RB when people screamed for a QB, we took a QB when people screamed for an Edge and now we might get an Edge and people will scream for something else. If Barkley, Jones and who ever we take this year live up to their potential then that is all that matters and I'll be happy.
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Post by Nullusion on Dec 14, 2019 22:02:31 GMT -5
They need to put a better offense around Jones before I can say for sure, but a combination of Josh Allen and Joe Burrow would be hard to pass on.
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