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Post by TCHOF on Dec 14, 2019 20:42:51 GMT -5
Devante Parker and Albert Wilson to play for Dolphins tomorrow
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Dec 14, 2019 21:53:27 GMT -5
Devante Parker and Albert Wilson to play for Dolphins tomorrow We can't catch a break. If we lose to the Dolphins, Shurmur is gone after the game.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 21:58:21 GMT -5
Devante Parker and Albert Wilson to play for Dolphins tomorrow We can't catch a break. If we lose to the Dolphins, Shurmur is gone after the game. That would be a break the Giants can talk to Rivera and Rhule
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Dec 14, 2019 22:00:05 GMT -5
We can't catch a break. If we lose to the Dolphins, Shurmur is gone after the game. That would be a break the Giants can talk to Rivera and Rhule Any chance Rivera comes here will be if Gettleman is still here and that is also looking unlikely. I'll go with Rhule, but his inexperience scares me and some of the Baylor fans I've talked to are not a fan of his offense.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 22:18:51 GMT -5
That would be a break the Giants can talk to Rivera and Rhule Any chance Rivera comes here will be if Gettleman is still here and that is also looking unlikely. I'll go with Rhule, but his inexperience scares me and some of the Baylor fans I've talked to are not a fan of his offense. Hate to break to the folks that hate him but I think he has pretty solid chance of coming back the Giants don't fire GMs not easy. Look at Reese they let him fail gave him 200 mill and a number of top 10 picks to fix what he screwed up then finally pulled the trigger. DG has had some pretty good drafts the team has sustained a lot of injuries to there skill guys on offense still haven't gotten a game in with all of them.
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Post by lasion2 on Dec 14, 2019 23:19:41 GMT -5
Yeah I agree with you bbd. DG is gonna get a lot of rope, for better or worse. I think we all agree at this point that PS is as good as gone, unless he has some serious pearl tongued spin machine going on in meetings with the big boss.
No evidence to back me up, but it sure feels like Rivera is gonna be taking over after black Monday. FWIW, I’m ok with Rhule too. Just doesn’t seem likely with the history of this franchise and HCs.
If I had my druthers, I’d pay Carmichael from the saints HC money to come be the OC. Maybe give him the ole “HC-in-waiting” pitch to boot.
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Post by giants8493 on Dec 15, 2019 5:39:56 GMT -5
We can't catch a break. If we lose to the Dolphins, Shurmur is gone after the game. No, the Giants won't do that to two coach's in a row ,not happening. They won't fire him on the spot, but they may predetermine that he is gone as soon as the season ends
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Dec 15, 2019 5:53:25 GMT -5
We can't catch a break. If we lose to the Dolphins, Shurmur is gone after the game. No, the Giants won't do that to two coach's in a row ,not happening. Shurmur is definitely gone if we lose to the hapless Dolphins at home and set the record for the longest losing streak in franchise history.
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 15, 2019 7:10:03 GMT -5
That would be a break the Giants can talk to Rivera and Rhule .............the Rooney Rule is still in place not sure how that would affect anything. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooney_RuleDoesn't Rivera qualify as a Rooney Rule candidate?
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 15, 2019 7:42:02 GMT -5
Shurmur is definitely gone if we lose to the hapless Dolphins at home and set the record for the longest losing streak in franchise history. Not what I said Shurmur might still go but the Giants will finish out the year with him Changing our tune now, huh? The fact that you have now stated that the Giants “will finish out the year with him” now makes me think he’s gone tomorrow...lol
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Post by navygiant on Dec 15, 2019 7:56:56 GMT -5
I think Mara would love to end the season with 3 more wins and keep Shurmur but I have to agree, no way I believe he survives losing to Miami today. The few times I have watched the Dolphins and they look like a much better coached team with a worse roster.
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 15, 2019 8:39:32 GMT -5
They won't fire him on the spot, but they may predetermine that he is gone as soon as the season ends I believe that decision has already been made ,stay or go I think they have already decided. Based on what?
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Post by leonperry on Dec 15, 2019 8:57:24 GMT -5
I think Mara would love to end the season with 3 more wins and keep Shurmur but I have to agree, no way I believe he survives losing to Miami today. The few times I have watched the Dolphins and they look like a much better coached team with a worse roster. I could see that depending on the fashion they lose... if they get blown out or blow a game even this team should have won, then I can see it. If Shurmur hasn't been told his fate already then he & the coaches have the most pressure on them them anyone participating in this game... likely means some especially "inspired" coaching decisions are in store
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 15, 2019 9:10:53 GMT -5
LOL , so you believe they make the call about firing a HC all on one game and create a mess when they could do it at the end of the season after evaluating a whole season . You stated in your post that they have already made a decision about Shurmur. I asked you what you base that on. In other words, how do you know that they are not waiting to the end of the season to make a decision? You’re continued inability to understand any post on this MB is mind-boggling.
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Post by scoostraw on Dec 15, 2019 10:01:13 GMT -5
Devante Parker and Albert Wilson to play for Dolphins tomorrow We can't catch a break. If When we lose to the Dolphins, Shurmur is gone after the game. Fixed it for you.
Oh - and from your lips to God's ears.
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Post by scoostraw on Dec 15, 2019 10:02:18 GMT -5
Devante Parker and Albert Wilson to play for Dolphins tomorrow At first I thought you were going to say that Preston Parker was going to play for the Giants.
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 15, 2019 10:25:28 GMT -5
Devante Parker and Albert Wilson to play for Dolphins tomorrow At first I thought you were going to say that Preston Parker was going to play for the Giants. or Posie Parker
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Post by jay051 on Dec 15, 2019 11:57:50 GMT -5
Any chance Rivera comes here will be if Gettleman is still here and that is also looking unlikely. I'll go with Rhule, but his inexperience scares me and some of the Baylor fans I've talked to are not a fan of his offense. Hate to break to the folks that hate him but I think he has pretty solid chance of coming back the Giants don't fire GMs not easy. Look at Reese they let him fail gave him 200 mill and a number of top 10 picks to fix what he screwed up then finally pulled the trigger. DG has had some pretty good drafts the team has sustained a lot of injuries to there skill guys on offense still haven't gotten a game in with all of them. To be fair Reese had extra time to fix the holes with personnel because of the 11 run and winning 2 titles in 5 seasons. Gettleman imo is definitely safe though and until the eagles game on Monday night i thought PS was safe too but my tune has changed since his epic meltdown at the end of regulation. These last 3 games could be PS trying to convince Mara to keep his job.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 15, 2019 12:04:41 GMT -5
Hate to break to the folks that hate him but I think he has pretty solid chance of coming back the Giants don't fire GMs not easy. Look at Reese they let him fail gave him 200 mill and a number of top 10 picks to fix what he screwed up then finally pulled the trigger. DG has had some pretty good drafts the team has sustained a lot of injuries to there skill guys on offense still haven't gotten a game in with all of them. To be fair Reese had extra time to fix the holes with personnel because of the 11 run and winning 2 titles in 5 seasons. Gettleman imo is definitely safe though and until the eagles game on Monday night i thought PS was safe too but my tuned has changed since his epic meltdown at the end of regulation. These last 3 games could be PS trying to convince Mara to keep his job. I thought after that game they were gonna fire him Tuesday.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 15, 2019 12:11:33 GMT -5
Yeah I agree with you bbd. DG is gonna get a lot of rope, for better or worse. I think we all agree at this point that PS is as good as gone, unless he has some serious pearl tongued spin machine going on in meetings with the big boss. No evidence to back me up, but it sure feels like Rivera is gonna be taking over after black Monday. FWIW, I’m ok with Rhule too. Just doesn’t seem likely with the history of this franchise and HCs. If I had my druthers, I’d pay Carmichael from the saints HC money to come be the OC. Maybe give him the ole “HC-in-waiting” pitch to boot. As far as DG goes there just isn't enough bad. He nor Shurmur control injuries they are a rebuilding team they don't have the front end done they couldn't afford injuries. Now in year 3 to 4 to 5 this team isn't steadly getting better time to move on. if they are a 2 to 4 win team next year he is gonna be on the broiler.
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 15, 2019 12:13:24 GMT -5
You stated in your post that they have already made a decision about Shurmur. I asked you what you base that on. In other words, how do you know that they are not waiting to the end of the season to make a decision? You’re continued inability to understand any post on this MB is mind-boggling. I fully understand it just seems you lack the mental ability to comprehend as has been pointed out by many a poster. What is the basis for your claim that the decision about Shurmur has already been made? When do you believe that this decision was made?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 15, 2019 12:18:41 GMT -5
That would be a break the Giants can talk to Rivera and Rhule .............the Rooney Rule is still in place not sure how that would affect anything. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooney_RuleNot as a Rooney rule guy I would like to see them give McGaughey a serious interview guys a good coach.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 15, 2019 12:28:00 GMT -5
Yeah I agree with you bbd. DG is gonna get a lot of rope, for better or worse. I think we all agree at this point that PS is as good as gone, unless he has some serious pearl tongued spin machine going on in meetings with the big boss. No evidence to back me up, but it sure feels like Rivera is gonna be taking over after black Monday. FWIW, I’m ok with Rhule too. Just doesn’t seem likely with the history of this franchise and HCs. If I had my druthers, I’d pay Carmichael from the saints HC money to come be the OC. Maybe give him the ole “HC-in-waiting” pitch to boot. I could live with Rivera and do like the idea of a young up and coming coach. think they have shoved to much losing down our throats they might go the the safest and closest thing to a sure thing to get this thing rolling. I agree on the coordinator front hire the best and spare no expense to get who they need here to win.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 15, 2019 12:33:42 GMT -5
Not as a Rooney rule guy I would like to see them give McGaughey a serious interview guys a good coach. I realize I am in the minority but I like Shurmur and think he is exactly what DJ needs coming from a small school like Duke into the NFL. With that said I doubt Rivera comes to NY he wants a team set to go and being a former Cowboy I believe he'll go there . If not him I do believe it will be a coach from the college ranks. I am a stay the course kind of guy. But he shows 0 feel for the game and a stubbornness about relegating someone other then him to call plays he looks like a deer in the head lights when opposing coaches bait him with clock management tricks. Like the man and the man as a coordinator but his head coaching decisions are an adventure.
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 15, 2019 12:33:45 GMT -5
Not as a Rooney rule guy I would like to see them give McGaughey a serious interview guys a good coach. I realize I am in the minority but I like Shurmur and think he is exactly what DJ needs coming from a small school like Duke into the NFL. With that said I doubt Rivera comes to NY he wants a team set to go and being a former Cowboy I believe he'll go there . If not him I do believe it will be a coach from the college ranks. Ron Rivera is not a former Cowboy ... and that is the most accurate thing that you said in this post.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 15, 2019 12:47:31 GMT -5
I realize I am in the minority but I like Shurmur and think he is exactly what DJ needs coming from a small school like Duke into the NFL. With that said I doubt Rivera comes to NY he wants a team set to go and being a former Cowboy I believe he'll go there . If not him I do believe it will be a coach from the college ranks. Ron Rivera is not a former Cowboy ... and that is the most accurate thing that you said in this post. I missed that he is a Bear.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 15, 2019 12:49:19 GMT -5
Yeah I agree with you bbd. DG is gonna get a lot of rope, for better or worse. I think we all agree at this point that PS is as good as gone, unless he has some serious pearl tongued spin machine going on in meetings with the big boss. No evidence to back me up, but it sure feels like Rivera is gonna be taking over after black Monday. FWIW, I’m ok with Rhule too. Just doesn’t seem likely with the history of this franchise and HCs. If I had my druthers, I’d pay Carmichael from the saints HC money to come be the OC. Maybe give him the ole “HC-in-waiting” pitch to boot. The one thing the Giants might do is fire DG and Shurmur because if things don't get better they will be firing DG and the new coach nextbyear.
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