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Post by jaymas on Jan 16, 2020 23:23:29 GMT -5
I'm anxious to see who is really going to be in this position and I'd be happy with Garret or an assistant on a playoff team we have not considered yet. I'm not sure why this is such a popular opinion. If we were going to get a coach on a playoff team still playing we would have put in the request by now and it would be leaked out there. I very much doubt that's what is happening.
I wonder if they are trying to talk to Garrett and Calahan at the same time to see if they can work together. Stick it to the Cowboys and Redskins in one shot.
Feel like that stuff only leaks when it's a guy up for head coaching stuff. Or is even reported to be happening as it relates to guys on a playoff staff. But I also admittedly do not remember every story about a position coach on a playoff team with a shot at a coordinator job.
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 17, 2020 8:35:40 GMT -5
I'm anxious to see who is really going to be in this position and I'd be happy with Garret or an assistant on a playoff team we have not considered yet. I'm not sure why this is such a popular opinion. If we were going to get a coach on a playoff team still playing we would have put in the request by now and it would be leaked out there. I very much doubt that's what is happening.
I wonder if they are trying to talk to Garrett and Calahan at the same time to see if they can work together. Stick it to the Cowboys and Redskins in one shot.
If they want a particular OC I highly doubt they would wait for some package deal. They would take their guy before someone else did.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 17, 2020 8:48:10 GMT -5
I'm not sure why this is such a popular opinion. If we were going to get a coach on a playoff team still playing we would have put in the request by now and it would be leaked out there. I very much doubt that's what is happening.
I wonder if they are trying to talk to Garrett and Calahan at the same time to see if they can work together. Stick it to the Cowboys and Redskins in one shot.
If they want a particular OC I highly doubt they would wait for some package deal. They would take their guy before someone else did. I agree, then again it's not like people are knocking down Garretts door. Garrett very well could be saying he wants to bring "his guy" though which would slow everything down. Perhaps he wants to bring some guys from the Dallas staff.
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Post by TEM on Jan 17, 2020 8:55:05 GMT -5
I'm not sure why this is such a popular opinion. If we were going to get a coach on a playoff team still playing we would have put in the request by now and it would be leaked out there. I very much doubt that's what is happening.
I wonder if they are trying to talk to Garrett and Calahan at the same time to see if they can work together. Stick it to the Cowboys and Redskins in one shot.
If they want a particular OC I highly doubt they would wait for some package deal. They would take their guy before someone else did. I agree . There is a reason you want a guy. Other teams searching probably want the same qualities in a coordinator. You can't pussyfoot aground . After the HC the field of candidates expands even greater for each level of the coaching tree If the O-line coach won't work with him. Find another one. The O-line coach should not be a contingency to hire the OC. If he is, You got the wrong OC.
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 17, 2020 11:07:22 GMT -5
If they want a particular OC I highly doubt they would wait for some package deal. They would take their guy before someone else did. I agree, then again it's not like people are knocking down Garretts door. Garrett very well could be saying he wants to bring "his guy" though which would slow everything down. Perhaps he wants to bring some guys from the Dallas staff. Ok. I just don't think him getting hired would be contingent on him bringing in other guys. IMO, if he was already hired, it would have been reported, just like everyone else so far. Make me think he has not been signed, and they are still interviewing.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 17, 2020 11:11:33 GMT -5
I agree, then again it's not like people are knocking down Garretts door. Garrett very well could be saying he wants to bring "his guy" though which would slow everything down. Perhaps he wants to bring some guys from the Dallas staff. Ok. I just don't think him getting hired would be contingent on him bringing in other guys. IMO, if he was already hired, it would have been reported, just like everyone else so far. Make me think he has not been signed, and they are still interviewing. He would not be the first coach to ask to bring assistants with him. Again I am not saying he said "these guys come or I walk"; but it's very possible he said "hey we didn't hire an OL coach can I bring Calahan with me" which slowed things down.
I agree if he was hired we would know, so either they are working on the contract or they are not hiring him.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 17, 2020 12:49:26 GMT -5
Ben McAdoo sighting!
Interviewing with the Jags for OC.
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Post by giantsalmon on Jan 17, 2020 12:54:39 GMT -5
Ben McAdoo sighting! Interviewing with the Jags for OC. I'm sure TC and Marone still have a relationship. This could be BMs new gig.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 17, 2020 13:18:35 GMT -5
I'm still hoping Mike Lafleur from San Francisco Seeing how Jimmy G and those 3 good, but not Saquon Barkley level running backs are being used. If he brings any of Shanahan’s scheme with him, as well as a bit of his brothers maybe, he could be quite the hire. It would also make sense that nothing has happened yet as he is still in the playoffs. If he brings the SF OL with him.
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Post by nygfanstrick on Jan 17, 2020 16:00:44 GMT -5
So what positions do we have and need?
Off the top of my head we have the following:
Head Coach: Joe Judge Defensive Coordinator (Assistant HC also): Patrick Graham DL coach: Freddie Roach QB Coach: Jerry Schuplinski STs coach: Thomas McGaughey WR coach: Tyke Tolbert DBs coach: LBs coach: Offensive Coordinator: RB coach: TE coach: OL coach:
I may have missed someone but I think that’s all of them. It makes sense that we haven’t filled out more of the offensive coaches until we have an OC in place. I am a bit surprised we really haven’t heard anything about DB candidates or LB candidates since we have a DC in place. I suppose moves like Freddie Roach were made without it being rumored or anything so maybe they have been looking at guys for those roles but haven’t had any names leak yet.
I think once an offensive coordinator is announced the rest of the staff will be filled out pretty quickly. I would have to imagine most of their focus at the moment is selecting the right guy in their opinion for the OC. The delay in news from the most recent signings to today is killing me lol
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Post by giantsalmon on Jan 17, 2020 19:19:07 GMT -5
So what positions do we have and need? Off the top of my head we have the following: Head Coach: Joe Judge Defensive Coordinator (Assistant HC also): Patrick Graham DL coach: Freddie Roach QB Coach: Jerry Schuplinski STs coach: Thomas McGaughey WR coach: Tyke Tolbert DBs coach: LBs coach: Offensive Coordinator: RB coach: TE coach: OL coach: I may have missed someone but I think that’s all of them. It makes sense that we haven’t filled out more of the offensive coaches until we have an OC in place. I am a bit surprised we really haven’t heard anything about DB candidates or LB candidates since we have a DC in place. I suppose moves like Freddie Roach were made without it being rumored or anything so maybe they have been looking at guys for those roles but haven’t had any names leak yet. I think once an offensive coordinator is announced the rest of the staff will be filled out pretty quickly. I would have to imagine most of their focus at the moment is selecting the right guy in their opinion for the OC. The delay in news from the most recent signings to today is killing me lol I really like that a few of the coaches that did a good job were retained. This shows it truly is about performance and not always about "who you know".
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 17, 2020 19:51:56 GMT -5
Garrett OC
Just to remind everyone Dak and company had their best year with Kelen Moore running the O.
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Post by nygfanstrick on Jan 17, 2020 19:58:09 GMT -5
So what positions do we have and need? Off the top of my head we have the following: Head Coach: Joe Judge Defensive Coordinator (Assistant HC also): Patrick Graham DL coach: Freddie Roach QB Coach: Jerry Schuplinski STs coach: Thomas McGaughey WR coach: Tyke Tolbert DBs coach: LBs coach: Offensive Coordinator: Jason Garrett RB coach: Burton Burns TE coach: OL coach: I may have missed someone but I think that’s all of them. It makes sense that we haven’t filled out more of the offensive coaches until we have an OC in place. I am a bit surprised we really haven’t heard anything about DB candidates or LB candidates since we have a DC in place. I suppose moves like Freddie Roach were made without it being rumored or anything so maybe they have been looking at guys for those roles but haven’t had any names leak yet. I think once an offensive coordinator is announced the rest of the staff will be filled out pretty quickly. I would have to imagine most of their focus at the moment is selecting the right guy in their opinion for the OC. The delay in news from the most recent signings to today is killing me lol Fixed to go with the Garrett hire that was just announced. Burton Burns as RB coach as well
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Post by nygfanstrick on Jan 17, 2020 20:01:31 GMT -5
Garrett OC Just to remind everyone Dak and company had their best year with Kelen Moore running the O. I’m hoping he is another case of someone who is/was a good coordinator but not quite cut out to be a HC. If I remember correctly he was a pretty damn solid OC before the Cowboys made him a HC. I will say even though he wasn’t great at it, I do think it’s good that Judge has someone with some head coaching experience on the staff with him. I’m overall neutral on it, but I think we could have done a lot worse. It would be epic to see him win more playoff games here than he did in Dallas all the years he was there lol
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Post by nygfanstrick on Jan 17, 2020 20:02:38 GMT -5
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 17, 2020 20:41:43 GMT -5
Garrett OC Just to remind everyone Dak and company had their best year with Kelen Moore running the O. Just to remind you the Dallas Cowboys had one of their best years ever with Garrett as the OC.
2007- 2nd scoring, 3rd yards, 4 is passing yards, 2 is passing TDs, 2 in yards per attempt, 3 in scoring%. Romo had 4200 yards and the most TDs of his career.
I'm not a big fan of Garrett, especially when he was a HC candidate, but the guy had success as an OC with a young QB.
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Post by nygfanstrick on Jan 17, 2020 21:53:41 GMT -5
Ole Miss just tweeted that Freddie Roach will be returning to Ole Miss... Idk if that’s true or a mistake on their part. Very weird.
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Post by DJones19 on Jan 18, 2020 2:47:18 GMT -5
Garrett OC Just to remind everyone Dak and company had their best year with Kelen Moore running the O. I thought never Garrett called plays any of the years Dak played. Dak going 13-3 as a rookie 4th round QB with a career high 105 QB rating is impressive. Don't you think? Far from a Cowboys fan but Garrett has a track record of success with QBs.
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Post by bluebuddha on Jan 18, 2020 10:42:44 GMT -5
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Post by soflo on Jan 18, 2020 12:59:01 GMT -5
Yeah, he's out. They offered him more money. What moron turns down a position job in the NFL to stay at a position job in college?
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Post by InDabsWeTrust on Jan 21, 2020 17:59:32 GMT -5
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 21, 2020 18:41:46 GMT -5
An ex Patriot? Ya dont say! Lol We are the Patriots coaching staff minus their big 3.
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Post by dream88 on Jan 21, 2020 18:53:14 GMT -5
@mzenitz Sources: Freddie Kitchens is expected to be part of Joe Judge's staff with the New York Giants. Unclear what his role will be.
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Post by giantfromtheoz on Jan 21, 2020 18:56:54 GMT -5
@mzenitz Sources: Freddie Kitchens is expected to be part of Joe Judge's staff with the New York Giants. Unclear what his role will be. My prediction is tight ends coach. This staff is shaping up as a very experienced staff. Interested to see the players progression now.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 21, 2020 19:09:38 GMT -5
OMG ALL OF THESE GUYS SUCK!I NEVER HEARD OF THEM BUT THEY ONLY GOT HIRED BECAUSE THEY ARE FRIENDS WITH THAT STOOOOOOOPID IMGRATE JUDGE!
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Post by dream88 on Jan 23, 2020 0:57:22 GMT -5
@rapsheet The #Giants are expected to hire former #Cowboys O-line coach Marc Colombo for the same role on Joe Judge’s staff, source said. His familiarity with OC Jason Garrett helped, as did his work in Dallas last year.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 23, 2020 8:46:18 GMT -5
@rapsheet The #Giants are expected to hire former #Cowboys O-line coach Marc Colombo for the same role on Joe Judge’s staff, source said. His familiarity with OC Jason Garrett helped, as did his work in Dallas last year. So this is a lateral move? OL Coach to OL Coach?
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 23, 2020 9:01:00 GMT -5
@rapsheet The #Giants are expected to hire former #Cowboys O-line coach Marc Colombo for the same role on Joe Judge’s staff, source said. His familiarity with OC Jason Garrett helped, as did his work in Dallas last year. So this is a lateral move? OL Coach to OL Coach? He wasn't retained by McCarthy
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 9:08:26 GMT -5
@rapsheet The #Giants are expected to hire former #Cowboys O-line coach Marc Colombo for the same role on Joe Judge’s staff, source said. His familiarity with OC Jason Garrett helped, as did his work in Dallas last year. So this is a lateral move? OL Coach to OL Coach? Well fans are complaining when they hired ex head coaches so they decided to get a coach for the same thing they did before..
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 29, 2020 11:42:34 GMT -5
What staff hires are we still waiting on? Just DL?
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