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Post by IrishMike on Jan 11, 2020 15:14:49 GMT -5
Apparently Bill Belichick prevented Josh McDaniels from moving his interview to ahead of Judge's. Was this because he didn't want us getting McDaniels or because he wanted Judge to come here? Real life is so much better than fiction.
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Post by Zimonami on Jan 11, 2020 15:22:58 GMT -5
Apparently Bill Belichick prevented Josh McDaniels from moving his interview to ahead of Judge's. Was this because he didn't want us getting McDaniels or because he wanted Judge to come here? Real life is so much better than fiction.
As I mentioned before... BB has been tutoring/mentoring Judge all season... they spent time together every week discussing how to prepare a team, etc. I think BB wanted Judge to go to the Giants, and didn't want to take the chance that we'd jump prematurely for McDaniels. There could be a number of reasons... not wanting to lose McDaniels or not wanting to take the chance the Giants would jump at Mc without seeing Judge. As it was, they jumped at Judge without seeing Mc. Any way you cut it... will Mc be pissed at BB for it?
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Post by gmen46 on Jan 11, 2020 15:23:04 GMT -5
Apparently Bill Belichick prevented Josh McDaniels from moving his interview to ahead of Judge's. Was this because he didn't want us getting McDaniels or because he wanted Judge to come here? Real life is so much better than fiction.
He did the Giants a huge favor, deliberately or not.
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Post by smitty on Jan 11, 2020 15:23:20 GMT -5
Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
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Post by bluebuddha on Jan 11, 2020 15:34:56 GMT -5
Apparently Bill Belichick prevented Josh McDaniels from moving his interview to ahead of Judge's. Was this because he didn't want us getting McDaniels or because he wanted Judge to come here? Real life is so much better than fiction.
Is that because he would rather lose Joe than McDaniels? Belichick doesn't give up his competitive advantage. Does he like NY more than NIE and wants NY to suceed? This story could go any waty the imagination takes it . I don't know if anyone will ever figure out the true motives of Belichick.
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Post by ocgiant on Jan 11, 2020 15:43:49 GMT -5
I am surprised no one stopped and ask Bill why he would not let one coach interview before another? Although he'd probably not answer anyway.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 11, 2020 15:58:16 GMT -5
I am surprised no one stopped and ask Bill why he would not let one coach interview before another? Although he'd probably not answer anyway. ".... we are on to the offseason."
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 11, 2020 16:14:46 GMT -5
wow very very interesting. I do think however that I'd rather Judge just from the curiosity aspect over Macdaniels.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 11, 2020 16:21:25 GMT -5
wow very very interesting. I do think however that I'd rather Judge just from the curiosity aspect over Macdaniels. I really didn't want McDaniels. Just way too many questions with him as far as being successful without Brady.
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Post by Dogecoin on Jan 11, 2020 16:25:15 GMT -5
Leaves open possibility of BB joining as HC at later date and still keeping judge. JM would have been less likely to accept the demotion. Probably wrong, just a guess. Another factor is that BB may leave Pat's too, and since the job was promised to JM he wanted to make sure he's still there for Kraft.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Jan 11, 2020 17:11:07 GMT -5
BB's coaching tree is full of failure at the HC level. You either have it or you don't. You can't teach leadership
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Post by moecoastie on Jan 11, 2020 17:23:13 GMT -5
Just guessing here but maybe BB feels McDaniel is a better coordinator than he is a HC prospect? Who knows...this can be twisted any which way
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 11, 2020 17:32:29 GMT -5
Hold the onions and cheese on my nothingburger
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Post by giantsalmon on Jan 11, 2020 18:28:24 GMT -5
I don't know if there's anything to this or not, but the NFL is full of drama and entertainment year around. I do not watch any of the Hollywood type shows, reality shows(except "Wicked Tuna"), or fictional drama on TV. As was said by OP, there's plenty of real life drama coming out of the NFL.
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Post by southerner on Jan 11, 2020 20:10:42 GMT -5
Apparently Bill Belichick prevented Josh McDaniels from moving his interview to ahead of Judge's. Was this because he didn't want us getting McDaniels or because he wanted Judge to come here? Real life is so much better than fiction.
This is beyond silly...there is no way that “Belichek prevented Josh McDaniels from scheduling his interviews earlier”. That is a stupid claim......something you might get out of Tehran or North Korea.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 11, 2020 21:08:16 GMT -5
Apparently Bill Belichick prevented Josh McDaniels from moving his interview to ahead of Judge's. Was this because he didn't want us getting McDaniels or because he wanted Judge to come here? Real life is so much better than fiction.
This is beyond silly...there is no way that “Belichek prevented Josh McDaniels from scheduling his interviews earlier”. That is a stupid claim......something you might get out of Tehran or North Korea. Why is there no way he did it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 11:25:34 GMT -5
Thank the gods we didnt get mcdaniels, in whatever way this is spun. Really dont like that guy. Perhaps he'll be a good HC in the right circumstances, but from what Ive seen of both guys, Judge's character appears to be leaps and bounds over mcdaniels, and i dont see mcdaniels with the stones of judge, outlining all those things hes gonna do to keep the team in line.
as far as belichick blocking him being interviewed first, I have no idea, but there always does seem to be some strange things just beneath the surface with belichick and the giants. He can never escape this team to some degree, and then we had his number in the superbowls twice. I think that only intensified his respect to this organization
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Post by soflo on Jan 13, 2020 11:53:30 GMT -5
BB's coaching tree is full of failure at the HC level. You either have it or you don't. You can't teach leadership Vrabel is coaching his team in the AFCCG...and to be honest I think they will shock kc next week and reach the super bowl.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 13, 2020 12:20:17 GMT -5
BB's coaching tree is full of failure at the HC level. You either have it or you don't. You can't teach leadership Vrabel is coaching his team in the AFCCG...and to be honest I think they will shock kc next week and reach the super bowl. Vrabel isn't under the Belichick coaching umbrella. He was a player. A lot make this mistake. Bill OBrian is the only semi successful HC under the Beli umbrella. And rumors are swirling about him now too.
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 13, 2020 12:49:27 GMT -5
BB's coaching tree is full of failure at the HC level. You either have it or you don't. You can't teach leadership Sort of goes along with what we've been seeing everywhere ... these guys might have been good at their jobs (coordinator, etc) on Belichick's staff, but just being a good coordinator does not mean that you will be a good HC.
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Post by soflo on Jan 13, 2020 15:27:40 GMT -5
BB's coaching tree is full of failure at the HC level. You either have it or you don't. You can't teach leadership Sort of goes along with what we've been seeing everywhere ... these guys might have been good at their jobs (coordinator, etc) on Belichick's staff, but just being a good coordinator does not mean that you will be a good HC. Maybe the fact that Belichick pulled him out of Alabama, took him under his wing, and added wr coach to his resume in order to try and get him interviews speaks to the fact that he's aware that his coaching tree doesn't have a great legacy and he wants to change that.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 13, 2020 19:22:05 GMT -5
Vrabel isn't under the Belichick coaching umbrella. He was a player. A lot make this mistake. Bill OBrian is the only semi successful HC under the Beli umbrella. And rumors are swirling about him now too. Yet he did coach for O'Brian in Huston who is of the Belichick tree and played with BB for three seasons,.........close enough . Yeah, That would be the O'Brian tree then....
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Post by Shim on Jan 14, 2020 13:21:04 GMT -5
Josh McDaniels drafted Tim Tebow.
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 14, 2020 13:45:50 GMT -5
Josh McDaniels drafted Tim Tebow. ... in the first round ... and moved up to do it.
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Post by SG88 on Jan 15, 2020 19:05:59 GMT -5
I don't care about McDaniels' first HC gig in Denver. That is irrelevant. What is relevant is how he did Indianapolis and a few coaches who quit their jobs to join him there at the last second. The guy is a snake and let's all be thankful that the Giants did not hire him.
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 15, 2020 20:38:57 GMT -5
I don't care about McDaniels' first HC gig in Denver. That is irrelevant. What is relevant is how he did Indianapolis and a few coaches who quit their jobs to join him there at the last second. The guy is a snake and let's all be thankful that the Giants did not hire him. You’re too nice. The guy is a piece of shit. What he did in Denver was just a bad job. The decision to draft Tebow in the 1st round is enough to warrant a kick me sign on his back for at least 5 years. But to screw over a franchise and the men who got hired there on his staff is beyond pathetic. As bad as the Giants have been even they aren’t dumb enough to hire this putz for a head coaching job.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 15, 2020 20:50:22 GMT -5
Josh McDaniels drafted Tim Tebow. ... in the first round ... and moved up to do it. At least he didnt move up to draft Trubisky with Watson and Mahomes left on the board
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 15, 2020 20:55:58 GMT -5
Josh McDaniels drafted Tim Tebow. If Tebow was with the Saints we would all love him. He is a better Taysom Hill. Too bad for him his coaches couldn't figure out how to make him work. Yet another example of a young QB that maybe would have been something with different coaches.
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 15, 2020 20:56:40 GMT -5
... in the first round ... and moved up to do it. At least he didnt move up to draft Trubisky with Watson and Mahomes left on the board True ... he’s got that going for him
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Post by Shim on Jan 17, 2020 11:42:18 GMT -5
If Tebow was with the Saints we would all love him. He is a better Taysom Hill. Vastly disagree. Clearly you didn't see Tebow in the receiving game lol. If Tebow was a better Taysom Hill, another team would have picked him up and utilized those talents. The Patriots couldn't even do anything with him.
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