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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Jan 14, 2020 19:08:15 GMT -5
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Post by Parademon1 on Jan 14, 2020 20:05:27 GMT -5
Funny how prior to 2017, in their history, Astros had only won 100 games 1 time, back in 98', they went 102-60. Then all of a sudden they win 100+ 3yrs straight from 2017-2019, the 3yrs they're accused of stealing signs. They also went 0-3 in the Bronx but 4-0 at home in 17' ALCS. Guess they couldn't steal signs in Yankee stadium.
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Post by Dogecoin on Jan 14, 2020 20:10:20 GMT -5
Funny how prior to 2017, in their history, Astros had only won 100 games 1 time, back in 98', they went 102-60. Then all of a sudden they win 100+ 3yrs straight from 2017-2019, the 3yrs they're accused of stealing signs. They also went 0-3 in the Bronx but 4-0 at home in 17' ALCS. Guess they couldn't steal signs in Yankee stadium. It's impossible to overstate the importance of the batter knowing the pitch, especially at the professional level. Watch their batting averages plummet next season.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 14, 2020 21:02:46 GMT -5
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Post by Dogecoin on Jan 16, 2020 20:28:57 GMT -5
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Post by Parademon1 on Jan 16, 2020 22:32:38 GMT -5
Every team that Houston plays this yr on the rd should blast 'Bang a gong" by T-Rex every time it's the cheaters turn to bat. I mean ...every time, all yr long.
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Jan 17, 2020 11:51:49 GMT -5
Every team that Houston plays this yr on the rd should blast 'Bang a gong" by T-Rex every time it's the cheaters turn to bat. I mean ...every time, all yr long. I love that idea!!
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 17, 2020 13:42:31 GMT -5
Every team that Houston plays this yr on the rd should blast 'Bang a gong" by T-Rex every time it's the cheaters turn to bat. I mean ...every time, all yr long. I believe the fan bases are going to be livid and also very creative this next season when playing the Astros and possibly Red Sox. I want to see a large sign behind the visitors dugout that reads "CHeaters Dugout" with the H the Houston logo. I want to see trash cans all over the place getting banged. I feel like their division rivals will be all about it as well. Angels, A's Ms and Rangers. If MLB wont act on it, the fans should.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 17, 2020 13:44:31 GMT -5
Hate these 2 , but even they know it...
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Post by Dogecoin on Jan 17, 2020 14:55:48 GMT -5
Easy to be an good aggressive first pitch hitter when you know what the pitch is!
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Post by Dogecoin on Jan 21, 2020 7:43:51 GMT -5
Houston theme song...
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Post by Parademon1 on Jan 21, 2020 14:33:11 GMT -5
Using roids doesn't give you telepathy & allows you to know what pitch is coming, and as was stated before, tons of players from various teams were juicing in the 90s. Boston & Houston were only 2 teams utilizing the pitch stealing method & Cora in his very 1st yr as Sox Manager wins the WS coincidently in 18' & the previous yr won it in Houston as well when the sign stealing began? Yeah, Apples & Oranges buddy. There was a pitcher the other day saying how he found it odd that the Houston batters layed off all his nasty stuff In the playoffs as if they knew what pitch was coming. Who wants to bet $$ that Houston doesn't win 81 games this yr if that. Same for Bosox.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 21, 2020 15:06:17 GMT -5
Using roids doesn't give you telepathy & allows you to know what pitch is coming, and as was stated before, tons of players from various teams were juicing in the 90s. Boston & Houston were only 2 teams utilizing the pitch stealing method & Cora in his very 1st yr as Sox Manager wins the WS coincidently in 18' & the previous yr won it in Houston as well when the sign stealing began? Yeah, Apples & Oranges buddy. There was a pitcher the other day saying how he found it odd that the Houston batters layed off all his nasty stuff In the playoffs as if they knew what pitch was coming. Who wants to bet $$ that Houston doesn't win 81 games this yr if that. Same for Bosox. Roids were also a personal choice from the players, not an organizational process. They are on completely different levels of infraction as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Dogecoin on Jan 21, 2020 15:22:46 GMT -5
LA City Council votes unanimously to ask MLB to award World Series titles to Dodgers abc7.com/5867830/
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Jan 21, 2020 21:03:46 GMT -5
LA City Council votes unanimously to ask MLB to award World Series titles to Dodgers abc7.com/5867830/Titles for both 2017 & 2018 seasons?? I would love to see the Boston Red Sux lose their 2018 World Championship titles, but that's not going to happen.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 22, 2020 8:11:34 GMT -5
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Post by Parademon1 on Jan 22, 2020 14:11:10 GMT -5
Only time people ask for "forgiveness" is after the fact & it's about as good as a shit flavored lollipop! An asterisk should be placed in front of both the A-Holes & Blow-sox 17' & 18' WS titles that states, " Tainted WS due to severe lack of integrity & gamesmanship on the part of the entire team".
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Post by Dogecoin on Jan 22, 2020 14:14:58 GMT -5
Altuve should hand the MVP to judge and the league should restate in his name for 2017 season. Actions not words
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 22, 2020 14:32:55 GMT -5
Rob Manfred: MLB Will Not Strip Astros, Red Sox of World Series Titles....
âWhatever the impact of the sign stealing was, it could have changed who was in the World Series. Itâs absolutely unclear that the Dodgers would have been the World Series champion. I think there's a long tradition in baseball of not trying to change what happened. I think the answer from our perspective is to be transparent about what the investigation showed and let our fans make their own decision about what happened." - Rob Manfred
Easy solution. Strip them of the championships and award no one the championship.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 23, 2020 8:56:20 GMT -5
www.wsj.com/articles/astros-players-cheated-baseball-wanted-answers-so-they-made-a-deal-11579694400Astros Players Cheated. Baseball Wanted Answers. So It Made a Deal. MLB struck an agreement with the MLBPA early in the investigation granting immunity for honest testimony So while Manfred suspended Houston general manager Jeff Luhnow and field manager A.J. Hinch for the 2020 seasonâthey were later firedâno active players were even named for their involvement. Manfred justified that decision by saying it would have been âdifficult and impracticalâ to punish players, given that virtually all of them had knowledge of or were involved in the operation to use technology to illicitly obtain and relay opposing catchersâ signals. But there is a simpler explanation for why no players were penalized: The league and the MLB Players Association struck an agreement early in the process that granted immunity in exchange for honest testimony, according to several people familiar with the matter. The league was quick to make such an offer, these people said, in part because it did not believe it would win subsequent grievances with any players it attempted to discipline. Thatâs partly because of a bureaucratic shortcoming: The Astrosâ front office never discussed with players the leagueâs admonitions against using electronic devices to steal signs, according to Manfredâs statement. The deal is a sign of MLBâs desire for a speedy and conflict-free investigation, the continuing power of the baseball playersâ union and the fragile state of the sportâs labor relations. The promise of amnesty allowed the league to interview 23 current and former Astros players during the two-month investigation.
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Jan 23, 2020 19:22:12 GMT -5
Astros players donât need to apologize to Yankees (or anyone else) for sign-stealing scandal, says Scott Boras âIâm doing what my organization is telling me to do,â Boras said on Wednesday, describing the hypothetical mindset of a player. âYou installed this. You put this in front of us. Coaches and managers encourage you to use the information. It is not coming from the player individually. It is coming from the team. In my stadium. Installed. With authority. ...Players were not given the latest state of the rules,â said Boras, who represents three current Astros â second baseman JosĂ© Altuve and right-handers Lance McCullers and Aaron Sanchez. âTo suggest players violated rules that were withheld from them is a false incrimination of players.â www.nj.com/yankees/2020/01/mlb-rumors-astros-players-dont-need-to-apologize-to-yankees-or-anyone-else-for-sign-stealing-scandal-says-scott-boras.html
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Post by Parademon1 on Jan 23, 2020 19:34:16 GMT -5
What a crock a shit! You know damn well as a player in any sport, especially in baseball, that it's wrong to use a video monitor to steal signs & then relay them to the hitter with banging instruments that tells the hitter what pitch is coming. Is Scott Boras really trying to insinuate that his players are just a bunch of gullible,brain dead people that don't know right from wrong? Players know what the rules of the game are & I'm sure they are told you can't video the signs from a centerfield camera &relay the signs to the players. Wow, they really must think us fans are that stupid!
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Post by Dogecoin on Jan 23, 2020 19:41:25 GMT -5
If the players didn't know what they were doing was wrong, why were they so secretive about it?
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 24, 2020 7:29:50 GMT -5
What a crock a shit! You know damn well as a player in any sport, especially in baseball, that it's wrong to use a video monitor to steal signs & then relay them to the hitter with banging instruments that tells the hitter what pitch is coming. Is Scott Boras really trying to insinuate that his players are just a bunch of gullible,brain dead people that don't know right from wrong? Players know what the rules of the game are & I'm sure they are told you can't video the signs from a centerfield camera &relay the signs to the players. Wow, they really must think us fans are that stupid! Are you really surprised by this? It's Scott Boras we're talking about!!!
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 25, 2020 22:35:35 GMT -5
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 26, 2020 6:50:22 GMT -5
lol, you can't make this shit up!!
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Jan 26, 2020 9:29:21 GMT -5
Justin Verlander laughed at after saying Astros were âtechnologically and analytically advancedâ Justin Verlander was at the annual Baseball Writers Association of America banquet last night, on hand to accept the 2019 Cy Young Award. Normally such things are pretty routine events, but nothing is routine with the Houston Astros these days. During his acceptance speech, Verlander made some comments about the Astrosâ âtechnological and analytical advancements.â The comments were greeted by some laughter in the room as well as some groans. At least one person on hand claimed that other players present were visibly angry. mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/01/26/justin-verlander-laughed-at-after-saying-astros-were-technologically-and-analytically-advanced/
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Post by Dogecoin on Jan 26, 2020 20:14:14 GMT -5
Verlander always was an ass. But hey the league protected the players and preserved the title. They enabled his behavior.
But not every pitcher is like that. This guy is cool...
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Post by Dogecoin on Jan 29, 2020 20:25:51 GMT -5
Another candidate for Enron Field theme song....
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 30, 2020 17:41:22 GMT -5
This is a wonderful website Adams listened to every pitch from the Astrosâ 2017 home games and made a note of any banging noise he could detect. There were 20 home games for which he did not have access to video. There were three âhomeâ games which took place at Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg, Florida due to the team being displaced by hurricane Harvey and for which, obviously, the Astrosâ camera setup from Minute Maid Park would not have been applicable. Adams logged over 8,200 pitches and found banging before over 1,100 of those pitches. He graphed which players got the most bangs during their at bats. Marwin Gonzalez got the most, with bangs coming before 147 of 776 pitches seen, followed by George Springer, who got bangs on 139 of 933. JosĂ© Altuve had the least among regulars, with only 24 bangs in 866 pitches. One gets the sense that, perhaps, he felt that the banging would interfere with his normal pitch recognition process or something. Either way itâs worth noting that a lack of banging was also signal. Specifically, for a fastball. As such, Astros hitters were helped on a much higher percentage of pitches than what is depicted in the graphs themselves. Adams reminds us that Commissioner Manfredâs report stated that the Astros also used hand-clapping, whistling, and yelling early in the season before settling on trash can banging. Those things were impossible to detect simply by watching video. As it is, Adamsâ graphs of bangs-per-game shows that the can-banging plan dramatically ramped-up on May 28. signstealingscandal.com/players/
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