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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 12, 2018 9:30:44 GMT -5
Yes, they pick the OUT OF CONFERENCE games. Not the in conference games. Alabama has to play the same teams in the SEC West all the time. Notre Dame gets to pick and chose what ACC schools to play because they arent part of the ACC, hence why they dont play for the ACC title game. Big schools play these warm up schools to get ready for the season for the most part, or to use it as a "bye week" to work on stuff or get the backups more work. Plus the reason why the small school accepts to play a Bama and get destroyed is because of how much money they get from it. Its understandable. Syracuse, for example, has to play Clemson and Florida St and Louisville every year (most years those are 3 great teams). Notre Dame could only play one of them, or all of them or none of them. Cuse has 8 games vs the ACC this season (9 if you include ND part of that). ND plays 5 ACC games. They dont deserve to be in a 4 game playoff without playing a conference champ game. If ND is the #5 seed at the end of the year, and the #3 or 4 seed loses its conference champ game, why should ND get in over them for not having to play that tough game at the end of the year because they arent in a conference? Because they will be undefeated? Having an extra game can also be an advantage for the other teams and work against Notre Dame it can give them another quality win. It goes both ways. Some of those out of conference games those teams schedule are ridiculous. Who is your college team btw? Syracuse is my team. I dont expect to beat ND this weekend but thats ok. Im already happy with the way this season turned out compared to the last 20+ years lol. Ive just always felt this way about ND. They arent part of a conference. They dont deserve a shot to win it all, undefeated or not. I dont like how they get special treatment from the NCAA. I get it, they have their own TV money with NBC and such. Could you imagine a team in the NFL says, "Id like to play the Cowboys and Giants twice this year and not the Eagles or Redskins, and Id like to be part of the NFC East so if I have the best record I am NFC East Champs, and then I pick all my other games too. If I go undefeated, I should automatically be in the playoffs / Superbowl." Thats what ND in college feels like to me. Its a joke. I understand they are a very talented team this year. Im not discrediting them that. IF they ran the table in the ACC and played the Champ game and won, then by all means, get in the playoff. But the way its set up right now, its ridiculous they can even be mentioned as a playoff team the way they get special treatment. You are either in a conference like 99% of other teams, or you dont get to play for the league championship IMO. I am also one who thinks the SEC is very overrated every year. Bama is the best college football team but after that, Georgia LSU are the next 2 that are good. After that Kentucky and Florida are completely overrated. The rest is not that good at all. But when they all are looked at as top 25 teams, when they lose to each other it looks good for the conference. Thats another rant though...lol
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Post by krankeybluechick on Nov 14, 2018 21:53:50 GMT -5
Because they will be undefeated? Having an extra game can also be an advantage for the other teams and work against Notre Dame it can give them another quality win. It goes both ways. Some of those out of conference games those teams schedule are ridiculous. Who is your college team btw? Syracuse is my team. I dont expect to beat ND this weekend but thats ok. Im already happy with the way this season turned out compared to the last 20+ years lol. Ive just always felt this way about ND. They arent part of a conference. They dont deserve a shot to win it all, undefeated or not. I dont like how they get special treatment from the NCAA. I get it, they have their own TV money with NBC and such. Could you imagine a team in the NFL says, "Id like to play the Cowboys and Giants twice this year and not the Eagles or Redskins, and Id like to be part of the NFC East so if I have the best record I am NFC East Champs, and then I pick all my other games too. If I go undefeated, I should automatically be in the playoffs / Superbowl." Thats what ND in college feels like to me. Its a joke. I understand they are a very talented team this year. Im not discrediting them that. IF they ran the table in the ACC and played the Champ game and won, then by all means, get in the playoff. But the way its set up right now, its ridiculous they can even be mentioned as a playoff team the way they get special treatment. You are either in a conference like 99% of other teams, or you dont get to play for the league championship IMO. I am also one who thinks the SEC is very overrated every year. Bama is the best college football team but after that, Georgia LSU are the next 2 that are good. After that Kentucky and Florida are completely overrated. The rest is not that good at all. But when they all are looked at as top 25 teams, when they lose to each other it looks good for the conference. Thats another rant though...lol Just read Tim Green who played for SU has ALS. 😞
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Post by SG88 on Nov 15, 2018 12:11:31 GMT -5
Syracuse is my team as well (I was born and raised there) and are playing with house money, which makes them very dangerous. If we lose, they will be 8-3 and still on pace to play in the Pinstripes Bowl next month. If Notre Dame loses, their playoff chances are shot.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 15, 2018 21:29:51 GMT -5
Syracuse is my team as well (I was born and raised there) and are playing with house money, which makes them very dangerous. If we lose, they will be 8-3 and still on pace to play in the Pinstripes Bowl next month. If Notre Dame loses, their playoff chances are shot. Please for the love of God no more pinstripe bowl again. They have to think bigger. They have a shot to be in a New Years bowl.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 16, 2018 0:21:39 GMT -5
Syracuse is my team as well (I was born and raised there) and are playing with house money, which makes them very dangerous. If we lose, they will be 8-3 and still on pace to play in the Pinstripes Bowl next month. If Notre Dame loses, their playoff chances are shot. Please for the love of God no more pinstripe bowl again. They have to think bigger. They have a shot to be in a New Years bowl. If we win against the Irish, that is a strong possiblity. As Cuse fans of these days, we should take any bowl game that we can get. I agree with you though. I'm tired of that bowl game.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 16, 2018 8:30:16 GMT -5
Please for the love of God no more pinstripe bowl again. They have to think bigger. They have a shot to be in a New Years bowl. If we win against the Irish, that is a strong possiblity. As Cuse fans of these days, we should take any bowl game that we can get. I agree with you though. I'm tired of that bowl game. I think at 9-3 they would get into a pretty good bowl game. Even 8-4 they should be getting a solid bowl game offer. Pinstripe Bowl is one of the lowest bowl games for the teams that just barley made it to 6-7 wins.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 16, 2018 14:17:16 GMT -5
If we win against the Irish, that is a strong possiblity. As Cuse fans of these days, we should take any bowl game that we can get. I agree with you though. I'm tired of that bowl game. I think at 9-3 they would get into a pretty good bowl game. Even 8-4 they should be getting a solid bowl game offer. Pinstripe Bowl is one of the lowest bowl games for the teams that just barley made it to 6-7 wins. I really, really hope that you're right. Here is the list of bowls that the ACC is linked with. Surprisingly, the Pinstripes Bowl is a Tier 1 bowl game. Our goal should be the World Bowl since we're not going to the Playoff. 9-3 should be good enough for that. theacc.com/news/2018/6/22/football-2018-19-acc-bowl-affiliations.aspx
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 16, 2018 14:53:00 GMT -5
I think at 9-3 they would get into a pretty good bowl game. Even 8-4 they should be getting a solid bowl game offer. Pinstripe Bowl is one of the lowest bowl games for the teams that just barley made it to 6-7 wins. I really, really hope that you're right. Here is the list of bowls that the ACC is linked with. Surprisingly, the Pinstripes Bowl is a Tier 1 bowl game. Our goal should be the World Bowl since we're not going to the Playoff. 9-3 should be good enough for that. theacc.com/news/2018/6/22/football-2018-19-acc-bowl-affiliations.aspxInteresting. I guess they moved up the importance of the Pinstripe Bowl... Personally, the Camping World Bowl (dumb name) would be awesome if it included Cuse vs Oklahoma. Talk about a shoot out! If Cuse gets to the Gator Bowl, I think I can make that game. Obviously the Peach and Fiesta Bowls would be awesome but would require a 10-2 record.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 17, 2018 16:16:34 GMT -5
Well this game is going just like I expected. Syracuse just isn't there quite yet.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 17, 2018 16:35:09 GMT -5
Well this game is going just like I expected. Syracuse just isn't there quite yet. And Dungey is showing he is not even close to an NFL QB. Gets hurt way too much. I cant wait to watch ND destroyed in the playoffs.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 17, 2018 16:41:44 GMT -5
Dino Babers is trying to lose this game. Jesus. He is an awful HC. I dont care about the record. He only coaches 1/3 of the game. He is an OC at best
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 17, 2018 16:42:47 GMT -5
And there was a strip fumble and Babers doesnt care... what a idiot.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 17, 2018 16:47:31 GMT -5
And there was a strip fumble and Babers doesnt care... what a idiot. At least call a damn timeout. Of course the refs call a phantom facemask on the next play.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 17, 2018 17:17:51 GMT -5
I have never seen an OC HC exposed this bad. He is such a bad HC.
Every pass is -2 or-3 yards and then they run up the middle. Every drive! Its unreal.
Babers is sleeping...
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Nov 17, 2018 17:50:19 GMT -5
Thought this would be a better game, oh well good win for ND.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 17, 2018 18:10:50 GMT -5
I have never seen an OC HC exposed this bad. He is such a bad HC. Every pass is -2 or-3 yards and then they run up the middle. Every drive! Its unreal. Babers is sleeping... It's whatever to me. I gave the Orange next to no chance of winning. What is disappointing is the final score. I keep being told that Devito is the next coming and he was out there looking like Eli Manning against the Eagles. Yeah, Babers is an OC pretending to be a HC. The team was unprepared and the offensive gameplan was pathetic.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 17, 2018 18:47:27 GMT -5
I have never seen an OC HC exposed this bad. He is such a bad HC. Every pass is -2 or-3 yards and then they run up the middle. Every drive! Its unreal. Babers is sleeping... It's whatever to me. I gave the Orange next to no chance of winning. What is disappointing is the final score. I keep being told that Devito is the next coming and he was out there looking like Eli Manning against the Eagles. Yeah, Babers is an OC pretending to be a HC. The team was unprepared and the offensive gameplan was pathetic. Exactly. I expected a loss, but they were 100% unprepared. And it wasnt like ND did anything special. Ever notice when Cuse D is on the field, Babers is talking to the offense. Not even paying attention to the game. He is an OC. No way they should have gotten handled like that after proving they could play vs Clemson. 100% unprepared. Like I said, ND will get exposed like Manti Teo and his girlfriend in the playoffs where they shouldn't be. Bama, Clemson ect will destroy them
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 17, 2018 19:05:57 GMT -5
And Jim Boeheim has lost it... That offense is garbage. 1 Championship in 43 years because he had Carmelo Anthony. Time to move on.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Nov 17, 2018 19:17:03 GMT -5
It's whatever to me. I gave the Orange next to no chance of winning. What is disappointing is the final score. I keep being told that Devito is the next coming and he was out there looking like Eli Manning against the Eagles. Yeah, Babers is an OC pretending to be a HC. The team was unprepared and the offensive gameplan was pathetic. Exactly. I expected a loss, but they were 100% unprepared. And it wasnt like ND did anything special. Ever notice when Cuse D is on the field, Babers is talking to the offense. Not even paying attention to the game. He is an OC. No way they should have gotten handled like that after proving they could play vs Clemson. 100% unprepared. Like I said, ND will get exposed like Manti Teo and his girlfriend in the playoffs where they shouldn't be. Bama, Clemson ect will destroy them So Cuse nearly beats Clemson and gets steamrolled by ND and you think ND has no chance against Clemson? Interesting.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 17, 2018 19:21:15 GMT -5
And Jim Boeheim has lost it... That offense is garbage. 1 Championship in 43 years because he had Carmelo Anthony. Time to move on. Yeah, losing to UConn and Oregon on back to back days was annoying as hell.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 17, 2018 19:24:12 GMT -5
Exactly. I expected a loss, but they were 100% unprepared. And it wasnt like ND did anything special. Ever notice when Cuse D is on the field, Babers is talking to the offense. Not even paying attention to the game. He is an OC. No way they should have gotten handled like that after proving they could play vs Clemson. 100% unprepared. Like I said, ND will get exposed like Manti Teo and his girlfriend in the playoffs where they shouldn't be. Bama, Clemson ect will destroy them So Cuse nearly beats Clemson and gets steamrolled by ND and you think ND has no chance against Clemson? Interesting. Yes. I think ND is very overrated. They are good, don't get me wrong. I expected them to beat Cuse since I think Cuse was a bit overrated at 12, but yes, Clemson would beat them soundly. We are headed to another Bama - Clemson final. Its too bad we wont know though since they bow out of the ACC champ game and want the same privileges... I hope whoever wins the Big12 and Big 10 gets in front of ND for not playing a Champ game. ND shouldnt be considered a playoff team unless they move to 8 teams.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 17, 2018 19:26:58 GMT -5
And Jim Boeheim has lost it... That offense is garbage. 1 Championship in 43 years because he had Carmelo Anthony. Time to move on. Yeah, losing to UConn and Oregon on back to back days was annoying as hell. The 2-3 has been a dinosaur for a while. If he cant recruit (which appears to be the case now a days) then he has to turn these 3 and 4 star guys into ballers, which he doesnt. Cuse took a huge hit with Boeheim not being able to secure that kid Bazley.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Nov 17, 2018 19:27:07 GMT -5
So Cuse nearly beats Clemson and gets steamrolled by ND and you think ND has no chance against Clemson? Interesting. Yes. I think ND is very overrated. They are good, don't get me wrong. I expected them to beat Cuse since I think Cuse was a bit overrated at 12, but yes, Clemson would beat them soundly. We are headed to another Bama - Clemson final. Its too bad we wont know though since they bow out of the ACC champ game and want the same privileges... I hope whoever wins the Big12 and Big 10 gets in front of ND for not playing a Champ game. You're entitled to your opinion, but ND boasts a lot of talent. They absolutely can beat Clemson IMO and they will get them as the #3 seed before one of the 2 of them gets housed by Bama in the championship.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 17, 2018 19:29:29 GMT -5
Yes. I think ND is very overrated. They are good, don't get me wrong. I expected them to beat Cuse since I think Cuse was a bit overrated at 12, but yes, Clemson would beat them soundly. We are headed to another Bama - Clemson final. Its too bad we wont know though since they bow out of the ACC champ game and want the same privileges... I hope whoever wins the Big12 and Big 10 gets in front of ND for not playing a Champ game. You're entitled to your opinion, but ND boasts a lot of talent. They absolutely can beat Clemson IMO and they will get them as the #3 seed before one of the 2 of them gets housed by Bama in the championship. Yeah, its unfortunate $$$ controls that. Just like when Bama housed them with Teo. ND had no right to be even considered in that Champ game. Yet $$$ got them there. Im pretty sure this yer would be no different.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 17, 2018 19:33:16 GMT -5
It's whatever to me. I gave the Orange next to no chance of winning. What is disappointing is the final score. I keep being told that Devito is the next coming and he was out there looking like Eli Manning against the Eagles. Yeah, Babers is an OC pretending to be a HC. The team was unprepared and the offensive gameplan was pathetic. Exactly. I expected a loss, but they were 100% unprepared. And it wasnt like ND did anything special. Ever notice when Cuse D is on the field, Babers is talking to the offense. Not even paying attention to the game. He is an OC. No way they should have gotten handled like that after proving they could play vs Clemson. 100% unprepared. Like I said, ND will get exposed like Manti Teo and his girlfriend in the playoffs where they shouldn't be. Bama, Clemson ect will destroy them The sad thing about the loss is that the defense gave an OK performance. The offense is supposed to be his specialty and they did next to nothing. Anyways, time to see what is up with Daniel Jones, a potential future NYG QB.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 17, 2018 19:36:16 GMT -5
Yeah, losing to UConn and Oregon on back to back days was annoying as hell. The 2-3 has been a dinosaur for a while. If he cant recruit (which appears to be the case now a days) then he has to turn these 3 and 4 star guys into ballers, which he doesnt. Cuse took a huge hit with Boeheim not being able to secure that kid Bazley. Once that kid took his talents to the G League, we were screwed. The zone is just boring basketball and it rarely makes players pro ready. Other than Waiters and Melo, I cant name a single impact player in the NBA from SU in the last 15 years.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 17, 2018 19:45:33 GMT -5
In regards to Notre Dame, I think that they are playoff caliber and would do better this time around. They actually have a real QB. The best QB that I've seen them have in over 10 years.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 17, 2018 20:05:19 GMT -5
The 2-3 has been a dinosaur for a while. If he cant recruit (which appears to be the case now a days) then he has to turn these 3 and 4 star guys into ballers, which he doesnt. Cuse took a huge hit with Boeheim not being able to secure that kid Bazley. Once that kid took his talents to the G League, we were screwed. The zone is just boring basketball and it rarely makes players pro ready. Other than Waiters and Melo, I cant name a single impact player in the NBA from SU in the last 15 years. Michael Carter-Williams won the ROY, but I agree, mostly wasted talent. Ennis, Gbinije, Grant, Wes Johnson, Tyler Lydon, Chris McCullough, Malachi Richardson, most of them left too soon. If you are going to get guys that leave too soon, they better be All-Americans 5 stars. Duke should win the next 2-3 championships with what they are recruiting. I think last year they got the top 3 recruits in all of the nation. Its mind bending. This year they got 3 of the top 5 I think. They are the Alabama of basketball.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 17, 2018 20:10:38 GMT -5
In regards to Notre Dame, I think that they are playoff caliber and would do better this time around. They actually have a real QB. The best QB that I've seen them have in over 10 years. Meh. Syracuse was the 2nd best team they played all year. And the 1st was Michigan week 1 which made all the difference. I expect them to be exposed.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 17, 2018 20:23:10 GMT -5
Gives all credit to ND for being better and having better players. And says, "I dont even know the score they dominated us so much." Yeah, great. Good coach.
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