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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 17, 2020 5:54:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 6:43:16 GMT -5
Bradberry laughs at this.....
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Post by TheAnalyst on Mar 17, 2020 6:55:21 GMT -5
Damn...
They signed all their big named players.
Amazing.
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 17, 2020 6:59:20 GMT -5
Damn... They signed all their big named players. Amazing. They signed a WR who disappeared in their biggest game last year to a $20M per year deal, and let their CB walk out the door. They’re taking a $31.5M cap hit on Dak this year. I’m actually pretty pleased with all of this |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Mar 17, 2020 7:01:22 GMT -5
Damn... They signed all their big named players. Amazing. They signed a WR who disappeared in their biggest game last year to a $20M per year deal, and let their CB walk out the door. They’re taking a $31.5M cap hit on Dak this year. I’m actually pretty pleased with all of this I thought Byron Jones was overrated to be honest. Cooper is a great WR. Cowboys will still be better than us in 2020 IMO. After that will depend on their QB situation. |
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 17, 2020 7:03:48 GMT -5
They signed a WR who disappeared in their biggest game last year to a $20M per year deal, and let their CB walk out the door. They’re taking a $31.5M cap hit on Dak this year. I’m actually pretty pleased with all of this I thought Byron Jones was overrated to be honest. Cooper is a great WR. Cowboys will still be better than us in 2020 IMO. After that will depend on their QB situation. Well, we won 4 games last year, so yeah they’ll probably will be better than us in 2020. I just don’t think they widened the gap yesterday |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Mar 17, 2020 7:07:50 GMT -5
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Post by jimmieray on Mar 17, 2020 8:07:53 GMT -5
I really thought big contracts for WRs would be cautioned - considering the mental issues with some vets that got theirs, and the forecast of a harvest in the upcoming draft. Seems like Cooper is more level headed, and their offense did became competent when they picked him up, though. |
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Mar 18, 2020 11:38:30 GMT -5
They signed a WR who disappeared in their biggest game last year to a $20M per year deal, and let their CB walk out the door. They’re taking a $31.5M cap hit on Dak this year. I’m actually pretty pleased with all of this I thought Byron Jones was overrated to be honest. Cooper is a great WR. Cowboys will still be better than us in 2020 IMO. After that will depend on their QB situation. Jones was pretty sticky as far as staying with the WR. But in 79 games (5 full seasons with one game missed) he only had 2 int's. That is huge. Not worth almost $17M/yr. Cowboys should get a 3rd round compensatory for him in 2121 plus they can protect more monies. The TO thing is most noticeable. I'd rather have a turnover than a dozen passes defended. Good CB's should get 4-6 int's a year ... they're game changers. Cooper was hurt the last 6-8 games last year and was basically just a decoy. But let's do a quick comparison over the last 2 years since that is Coop's tenure with the Cowboys: Coop / OBJ ...... Targets: 226/257 ........... Receptions: 154/151 ............ Yards: 2194/2087 ............ yards per Reception: 14.2/13.8 ........... TD's: 15/10 .................................................................. Oh, those pesky numbers. Draw your own conclusions. Dak's money .... meh . Passed for a hair under 5,000 yards. 3 x more TD's vs int's.. Threat to run. Much better QB than any other in the NFCE, much more dependable. Now Wince ($32M/yr) would be an equal but he is not dependable to show up for games while Dak has never missed a series much less a game. Obviously the market is way north of $30M/yr. and soon to be $40M. |
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Mar 18, 2020 11:41:54 GMT -5
I really thought big contracts for WRs would be cautioned - considering the mental issues with some vets that got theirs, and the forecast of a harvest in the upcoming draft. Seems like Cooper is more level headed, and their offense did became competent when they picked him up, though. "competent" ? How about #1 in 2019? www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Mar 18, 2020 11:46:38 GMT -5
I thought Byron Jones was overrated to be honest. Cooper is a great WR. Cowboys will still be better than us in 2020 IMO. After that will depend on their QB situation. Jones was pretty sticky as far as staying with the WR. But in 79 games (5 full seasons with one game missed) he only had 2 int's. That is huge. Not worth almost $17M/yr. Cowboys should get a 3rd round compensatory for him in 2121 plus they can protect more monies. The TO thing is most noticeable. I'd rather have a turnover than a dozen passes defended. Good CB's should get 4-6 int's a year ... they're game changers. I dont belive that. PD are huge too. Low INTs could mean the other QBs just arent targeting him. I remember Revis having low INTs in his prime too and he was one of the GOATs of CBs for a while. Then you have guys like Janoris Jenkins who had a bunch of INTs, but most were from tips. As far as your comp pick, not happening. Cowboys spending too much money. Cooper was hurt the last 6-8 games last year and was basically just a decoy. But let's do a quick comparison over the last 2 years since that is Coop's tenure with the Cowboys: Coop / OBJ ...... Targets: 226/257 ........... Receptions: 154/151 ............ Yards: 2194/2087 ............ yards per Reception: 14.2/13.8 ........... TD's: 15/10 .................................................................. Oh, those pesky numbers. Draw your own conclusions. Cooper is a stud. He isnt the elite top 5 but he is close. I wish he left Dallas. Dak's money .... meh . Passed for a hair under 5,000 yards. 3 x more TD's vs int's.. Threat to run. Much better QB than any other in the NFCE, much more dependable. Now Wince ($32M/yr) would be an equal but he is not dependable to show up for games while Dak has never missed a series much less a game. Obviously the market is way north of $30M/yr. and soon to be $40M. Wentz is much better QB when healthy. Jones and Haskins are only 1 year in. Cowboys had to tag Dak though. I thought it was the right move. Maybe draft QB this year? |
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Post by jimmieray on Mar 18, 2020 11:49:55 GMT -5
I really thought big contracts for WRs would be cautioned - considering the mental issues with some vets that got theirs, and the forecast of a harvest in the upcoming draft. Seems like Cooper is more level headed, and their offense did became competent when they picked him up, though. "competent" ? How about #1 in 2019? www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.htmlWell, I can't very well come on here and rave about the Cowboys. And you'll rarely see me singing praises for any big name WR. But I can't deny that Cooper made a big impact on their ability to score points. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 18, 2020 13:04:43 GMT -5
I really thought big contracts for WRs would be cautioned - considering the mental issues with some vets that got theirs, and the forecast of a harvest in the upcoming draft. Seems like Cooper is more level headed, and their offense did became competent when they picked him up, though. If I were GM of the Cowboys and allowed to run the team Let Cooper walk Draft Ruggs lll/Lamb/Jefferson with out pick Bring back Cobbs for 2 years at what he got so they have that weapon that does what he does.. Resign Jones Going to get similar production with one of these guys on a rookie deal. He is nowhere near a 100 million dollar reciever.. He is a good starting number 1 that can affect how defenses play when healthy (another issue of his ) Big bodied guys that continue to get lower body injuries eventually lose their ability to get seperation.. All I cam say is better them than us |
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 18, 2020 13:08:40 GMT -5
I really thought big contracts for WRs would be cautioned - considering the mental issues with some vets that got theirs, and the forecast of a harvest in the upcoming draft. Seems like Cooper is more level headed, and their offense did became competent when they picked him up, though. If I were GM of the Cowboys and allowed to run the team Let Cooper walk Draft Ruggs lll/Lamb/Jefferson with out pick Bring back Cobbs for 2 years at what he got so they have that weapon that does what he does.. Resign Jones Going to get similar production with one of these guys on a rookie deal. He is nowhere near a 100 million dollar reciever.. He is a good starting number 1 that can affect how defenses play when healthy (another issue of his ) Big bodied guys that continue to get lower body injuries eventually lose their ability to get seperation.. All I cam say is better them than us I said this when we re-signed OBJ - I think that it is hard to build a championship roster with one WR taking up such a big chunk of your cap …. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 18, 2020 15:15:26 GMT -5
If I were GM of the Cowboys and allowed to run the team Let Cooper walk Draft Ruggs lll/Lamb/Jefferson with out pick Bring back Cobbs for 2 years at what he got so they have that weapon that does what he does.. Resign Jones Going to get similar production with one of these guys on a rookie deal. He is nowhere near a 100 million dollar reciever.. He is a good starting number 1 that can affect how defenses play when healthy (another issue of his ) Big bodied guys that continue to get lower body injuries eventually lose their ability to get seperation.. All I cam say is better them than us I said this when we re-signed OBJ - I think that it is hard to build a championship roster with one WR taking up such a big chunk of your cap …. The difference is that Dallas had the perfect chance to replace (or even upgrade)talent for talent by letting him walk and draft Ruggs.. this is why this is an assenine move |
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Post by GameTime on Mar 18, 2020 15:51:33 GMT -5
Damn... They signed all their big named players. Amazing. Dak? |
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Post by GameTime on Mar 18, 2020 15:54:18 GMT -5
Dallas still is not winning anything significant.
As long as JJ keeps his presence on the side line at critical times in games they will continue to fold.
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Post by TEM on Mar 18, 2020 15:57:38 GMT -5
Damn... They signed all their big named players. Amazing. They let Quinn walk. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 18, 2020 16:02:04 GMT -5
While I think it's possible that Beckham can get back to being talked about in the same sentence as Jones, Hopkins, Brown and Cooper, that has just not been the case for the last couple of years. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 18, 2020 16:05:44 GMT -5
Damn... They signed all their big named players. Amazing. They signed a WR who disappeared in their biggest game last year to a $20M per year deal, and let their CB walk out the door. They’re taking a $31.5M cap hit on Dak this year. I’m actually pretty pleased with all of this Depth might be a problem. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 18, 2020 16:07:47 GMT -5
I said this when we re-signed OBJ - I think that it is hard to build a championship roster with one WR taking up such a big chunk of your cap …. The difference is that Dallas had the perfect chance to replace (or even upgrade)talent for talent by letting him walk and draft Ruggs.. this is why this is an assenine move Thank you lol he doesn't seem to have the fire burning all the time. |
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Mar 18, 2020 21:19:31 GMT -5
I said this when we re-signed OBJ - I think that it is hard to build a championship roster with one WR taking up such a big chunk of your cap …. The difference is that Dallas had the perfect chance to replace (or even upgrade)talent for talent by letting him walk and draft Ruggs.. this is why this is an assenine move Of course I know my team so much better so my thoughts are this: Defensive needs are more important now that using your #17 on a WR. Dallas has D needs at all levels. They lost 11 sacks when Quinn left and their new DL philosophy is going big at tackle to protect the LB'ers. So DL is needed. Need LB, safety, and CB's. So they'll be mostly young and cheap on D after the draft. There is good chemistry between Dak and Coop and we gave up a #1 for him (Cooper). He is one of the top 3 route runners in the League. He gave up money to stay with the team. I agree with paying him. Dallas had quite a bit of cap money and they're not going crazy in free agency. This is mostly a home grown team (although their last couple of drafts have been bad thanks to listening to Marinelli ) |
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Post by jimmieray on Mar 19, 2020 6:47:29 GMT -5
If I were GM of the Cowboys and allowed to run the team Let Cooper walk Draft Ruggs lll/Lamb/Jefferson with out pick Bring back Cobbs for 2 years at what he got so they have that weapon that does what he does.. Resign Jones Going to get similar production with one of these guys on a rookie deal. He is nowhere near a 100 million dollar reciever.. He is a good starting number 1 that can affect how defenses play when healthy (another issue of his ) Big bodied guys that continue to get lower body injuries eventually lose their ability to get seperation.. All I cam say is better them than us I said this when we re-signed OBJ - I think that it is hard to build a championship roster with one WR taking up such a big chunk of your cap …. That has been my general philosophy, for a long time. But also, I feel a big difference between Beckham and Cooper, in regards to their contributions outweighing their baggage/cap chunkage. |
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Post by jimmieray on Mar 19, 2020 6:58:31 GMT -5
The difference is that Dallas had the perfect chance to replace (or even upgrade)talent for talent by letting him walk and draft Ruggs.. this is why this is an assenine move Of course I know my team so much better so my thoughts are this: Defensive needs are more important now that using your #17 on a WR. Dallas has D needs at all levels. They lost 11 sacks when Quinn left and their new DL philosophy is going big at tackle to protect the LB'ers. So DL is needed. Need LB, safety, and CB's. So they'll be mostly young and cheap on D after the draft. There is good chemistry between Dak and Coop and we gave up a #1 for him (Cooper). He is one of the top 3 route runners in the League. He gave up money to stay with the team. I agree with paying him. Dallas had quite a bit of cap money and they're not going crazy in free agency. This is mostly a home grown team (although their last couple of drafts have been bad thanks to listening to Marinelli ) You make it so hard to hate the Cowboys - with these civil, thought out posts. And maybe now your team might pass on a decent rookie WR, that our team might be able to choose in a later round, to fill a great need. Next thing you know, I'll go home and find one of your cheerleaders waiting for me in the bed. |
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Mar 19, 2020 8:56:53 GMT -5
Of course I know my team so much better so my thoughts are this: Defensive needs are more important now that using your #17 on a WR. Dallas has D needs at all levels. They lost 11 sacks when Quinn left and their new DL philosophy is going big at tackle to protect the LB'ers. So DL is needed. Need LB, safety, and CB's. So they'll be mostly young and cheap on D after the draft. There is good chemistry between Dak and Coop and we gave up a #1 for him (Cooper). He is one of the top 3 route runners in the League. He gave up money to stay with the team. I agree with paying him. Dallas had quite a bit of cap money and they're not going crazy in free agency. This is mostly a home grown team (although their last couple of drafts have been bad thanks to listening to Marinelli ) You make it so hard to hate the Cowboys - with these civil, thought out posts. And maybe now your team might pass on a decent rookie WR, that our team might be able to choose in a later round, to fill a great need. Next thing you know, I'll go home and find one of your cheerleaders waiting for me in the bed. I'll take the "thought out and civil" as a compliment. I can be just as crass and trollish as the next guy. I like football ... a lot. Most awesome sport on the planet. So, I talk football vs trash if it's feasible. And to be doubly sure, I don't hate the Giants. They are my team's rival and I want to beat them badly every time we play but I respect the team and their fans. I won't say the same about Philthy (thus my screen name). I just think the NY fan base is more sophisticated and doesn't carry the usual cave-man mentality of your Pennsylvania neighbors. I pulled heavily for the Giants in both SB's against the Patsies. I like to follow teams as they draft to their philosophies and to watch how they mesh. I'm intrigued by coaching at the pro level and it's intricacies especially game plan development ... that's part of the fun in watching a game and part of my distress watching the Cowboys over the last few years. Anyway, I'm waiting on the NY Football Giants (while reading that you gotta imagine Howard Cossell saying it) to become that strong team they were in the 1990's and 2000's. I think the battles our teams fought between Romo and Manning in their primes with good teams were generally epic in nature. As I've stated here several times I have 6 decades of watching NFL football under my belt. |
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Post by TEM on Mar 19, 2020 9:40:00 GMT -5
I am not a fan of paying a dependent player big money.
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 22, 2020 20:06:38 GMT -5
Damn... They signed all their big named players. Amazing. Trying to re-create their big three from the 90s. Too bad Dak isn't close to Aikman, Cooper isn't close to Irvin and Zeke isn't Smith. |
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Post by GameTime on Mar 22, 2020 20:13:57 GMT -5
expensive egg on Jerry's face in 2020
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 8, 2020 10:10:30 GMT -5
Reading something on the NFL app the Redskins were in this till the end
Do they dare shock the world and go Jeudy at 2?
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 8, 2020 10:12:54 GMT -5
Reading something on the NFL app the Redskins were in this till the end Do they dare shock the world and go Jeudy at 2? With Ron Rivera running things? Highly doubt it. But who knows? Also am surprised that Rivera was up for paying Cooper all that money …. |
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