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Post by giantsalmon on Mar 19, 2020 20:25:21 GMT -5
Lots of great posts about College OT prospects and thats where we need to go with the first pick--wherever that ends up being. If they pull a crafty tradeback, who are the top Center prospects? I really feel we need a major upgrade at Center.
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Post by lasion2 on Mar 19, 2020 22:30:23 GMT -5
Tyler Biadasz from Wisco looks like he could be there in rd.2. I think he’s the best center in the draft.
I think Ruiz from Michigan and Cushenberry from LSU are probably gone by #99. Both are very good, and if you went WR in rd 2, they would be good gets in rd 3.
Hennessy from Temple is probably there in rd 4 if you went WR/Pass rush/lb in rds 2+3.
I think the rest; Daryl Williams, the Oregon and Washington centers are projects.
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 20, 2020 9:13:31 GMT -5
Tyler Biadasz from Wisco looks like he could be there in rd.2. I think he’s the best center in the draft. I think Ruiz from Michigan and Cushenberry from LSU are probably gone by #99. Both are very good, and if you went WR in rd 2, they would be good gets in rd 3. Hennessy from Temple is probably there in rd 4 if you went WR/Pass rush/lb in rds 2+3. I think the rest; Daryl Williams, the Oregon and Washington centers are projects. Good overview except I like Ruiz in the second rather than Tyler B.
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Post by giantsalmon on Mar 20, 2020 9:46:56 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I want them to take a Center. Lots of speculation about draft day trades/fireworks. If NYG can pull an OT, WR, and a Center that are starting caliber this will be a great draft.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 10:18:08 GMT -5
Quick recap of the best
Lloyd Cushenberry III LSU
Not athletic, far better run blocking center vs pass blocking. Anybody who watched the championship game seen him toasted on blitzes quite a bit...
Can run block, and while not athletic, can move nose tackles. Run blocking is a FAR better trait as we know for centers...he can power block.
Jake Hanson - Oregon
Classic zone blocker...exact opposite of a Biadasz and Cushenberry, but not quick off the snap...never improved snapping the ball in 4 years as a Duck. Has nice balance, but a 3rd day pick.
Nick Harris - Washington
Best zone blocking center this year...my choice for screens to Barkley. Still needs to get stronger, but the Huskies had a good one...improved his grades all three years.
Tyler Biadasz - Wisconsin
Run blocking monster...slides slow, and pass protection not his strength.
Matt Hennessy - Temple
Another zone blocking master who also has high pass blocking grades. Has some issues, needs to beef up...but Matt could be that 3 or 4 round center who starts year 1.
Cesar Ruiz - Michigan
This is a high graded pass blocking center, but again...with centers, they are about run blocking first, and he has issues with that. Still young, and will improve...
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 20, 2020 14:03:11 GMT -5
Tyler Biadasz from Wisco looks like he could be there in rd.2. I think he’s the best center in the draft. I think Ruiz from Michigan and Cushenberry from LSU are probably gone by #99. Both are very good, and if you went WR in rd 2, they would be good gets in rd 3. Hennessy from Temple is probably there in rd 4 if you went WR/Pass rush/lb in rds 2+3. I think the rest; Daryl Williams, the Oregon and Washington centers are projects. Your right on it lasion, I also think a couple of these Centers will still be there when we pick in the 2nd rd. I do think Cushenberry of LSU is gone in the 1st rd though. I wouldn't be surprised if at least 6 or more LSU players go in the 1st rd. I feel it's going to be like the old days when the Miami players would go 5 or more every year in the 1st rd. Even Bama players for awhile.
That Biadasz could go 1st also. Would love to get two 2nd rd picks somehow in this draft and take our Center and WR both in the 2nd rd. But if I have to choose I want those 2 OL with our first 2 picks.
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Post by lasion2 on Mar 20, 2020 14:40:37 GMT -5
Absolutely I think everyone other than the Simmons or bust crowd is hoping someone wants to deal and DG gets his negotiating hat on. To come out of April with 2 starting OL and an X-wr would be a homerun.
I think all the guys we’re talking about would help us, so I’m cool with any of them. It’s that pesky “value” thing everyone talks about that could be a snag.
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Post by lexington11 on Mar 20, 2020 15:45:14 GMT -5
Tyler Biadasz from Wisco looks like he could be there in rd.2. I think he’s the best center in the draft. I think Ruiz from Michigan and Cushenberry from LSU are probably gone by #99. Both are very good, and if you went WR in rd 2, they would be good gets in rd 3. Hennessy from Temple is probably there in rd 4 if you went WR/Pass rush/lb in rds 2+3. I think the rest; Daryl Williams, the Oregon and Washington centers are projects. Good overview except I like Ruiz in the second rather than Tyler B. if we go OT round one I like the best defensive player available. Let’s not forget how much help the D still needs. Gross Matos, delpit, or baun would be nice.
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 20, 2020 15:51:15 GMT -5
Absolutely I think everyone other than the Simmons or bust crowd is hoping someone wants to deal and DG gets his negotiating hat on. To come out of April with 2 starting OL and an X-wr would be a homerun. I think all the guys we’re talking about would help us, so I’m cool with any of them. It’s that pesky “value” thing everyone talks about that could be a snag. Exactly what I want.. And value OT > athletic toy masquerading as a linebacker...or a WR where we are picking
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Post by lasion2 on Mar 20, 2020 18:54:40 GMT -5
It’s fun to think about Simmons in a mental gymnastics, madden type of exercise. But he’s not what’s best for the team right now. Someone like Simmons at 14 or so next year, I could be persuaded.
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Post by giantsalmon on Mar 21, 2020 7:57:37 GMT -5
It’s fun to think about Simmons in a mental gymnastics, madden type of exercise. But he’s not what’s best for the team right now. Someone like Simmons at 14 or so next year, I could be persuaded. I think the 2021 pick will be even later. The draft or the June cuts haven't even happened yet, this team is far from done bolstering.
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Post by bringsimmsback on Mar 21, 2020 8:56:47 GMT -5
Absolutely I think everyone other than the Simmons or bust crowd is hoping someone wants to deal and DG gets his negotiating hat on. To come out of April with 2 starting OL and an X-wr would be a homerun. I think all the guys we’re talking about would help us, so I’m cool with any of them. It’s that pesky “value” thing everyone talks about that could be a snag. Value sure is pesky - it is what makes it very unlikely we'll pick Simmons unless the scouts think he is a perennial All Pro vs the Fab Four all being just good starters. It's what makes this whole thing hard because even if you are absolutely correct in evaluating the players themselves (which seems rare), you have to perfectly predict how they will handle the current scheme while mixed in with the current players (and assume coaching will be done well) and then, on top of all of that, recognize where your division (along with the rest of the NFL to a slightly lesser degree) is going with their schemes. I think this is why trading down is almost the best option - more picks in the top 50 over mulitple years = greater chance to have the overall talent level at every position be good. This in turn gives the flexibility needed to adjust year to year as the trends shift and to shift as needed between the extremes in trends the individual teams offer. I can't remember the last time I didn't want to trade back and this year, with so many players that would fit a need for us available in the top 10, I want to more than most years. When all is said and done this draft, I want a T that will keep Flemming the swing tackle and replace Solder next year, a C that will keep Pulley/Gates as backups, a LB who can cover while not being an embarrassment against the run to pair with Martinez and a WR (or 2 if they can also play big role on STs). All this is hoping our current crop of young DBs will somehow cover the hole at either FS or slot CB depending on where Love plays. We may not be able to do it and we'll have to look at this as a 2 year process - that becomes a definite if we don't trade back in my opinion. Even with a trade back - what is the best way to match these needs to value in the draft? Are we gonna find the best option at C in the second? Or is there someone of equal value on our boards likely to be there in the third? Are we willing to deal with the possible character issues of a Gay jr and get him in the fourth or do we stay away or know someone will take him earlier? Mims (I think that is who GiantsLegacy suggested) may be the BPA but if a C is really close are we better going that way and getting a WR later since the draft is supposed to be so deep? I sure as shit can't answer these questions and wonder how hard a time I would still be having even if I had all of Gettleman's resources. Spotting the needs is the easy part.
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 21, 2020 10:46:10 GMT -5
Please lord baby jesus draft god let the Giants draft a starting Center this year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 0:00:06 GMT -5
Absolutely I think everyone other than the Simmons or bust crowd is hoping someone wants to deal and DG gets his negotiating hat on. To come out of April with 2 starting OL and an X-wr would be a homerun. I think all the guys we’re talking about would help us, so I’m cool with any of them. It’s that pesky “value” thing everyone talks about that could be a snag. Value sure is pesky - it is what makes it very unlikely we'll pick Simmons unless the scouts think he is a perennial All Pro vs the Fab Four all being just good starters. It's what makes this whole thing hard because even if you are absolutely correct in evaluating the players themselves (which seems rare), you have to perfectly predict how they will handle the current scheme while mixed in with the current players (and assume coaching will be done well) and then, on top of all of that, recognize where your division (along with the rest of the NFL to a slightly lesser degree) is going with their schemes. I think this is why trading down is almost the best option - more picks in the top 50 over mulitple years = greater chance to have the overall talent level at every position be good. This in turn gives the flexibility needed to adjust year to year as the trends shift and to shift as needed between the extremes in trends the individual teams offer. I can't remember the last time I didn't want to trade back and this year, with so many players that would fit a need for us available in the top 10, I want to more than most years. When all is said and done this draft, I want a T that will keep Flemming the swing tackle and replace Solder next year, a C that will keep Pulley/Gates as backups, a LB who can cover while not being an embarrassment against the run to pair with Martinez and a WR (or 2 if they can also play big role on STs). All this is hoping our current crop of young DBs will somehow cover the hole at either FS or slot CB depending on where Love plays. We may not be able to do it and we'll have to look at this as a 2 year process - that becomes a definite if we don't trade back in my opinion. Even with a trade back - what is the best way to match these needs to value in the draft? Are we gonna find the best option at C in the second? Or is there someone of equal value on our boards likely to be there in the third? Are we willing to deal with the possible character issues of a Gay jr and get him in the fourth or do we stay away or know someone will take him earlier? Mims (I think that is who GiantsLegacy suggested) may be the BPA but if a C is really close are we better going that way and getting a WR later since the draft is supposed to be so deep? I sure as shit can't answer these questions and wonder how hard a time I would still be having even if I had all of Gettleman's resources. Spotting the needs is the easy part. Nice read
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 22, 2020 7:33:09 GMT -5
Absolutely I think everyone other than the Simmons or bust crowd is hoping someone wants to deal and DG gets his negotiating hat on. To come out of April with 2 starting OL and an X-wr would be a homerun. I think all the guys we’re talking about would help us, so I’m cool with any of them. It’s that pesky “value” thing everyone talks about that could be a snag. Value sure is pesky - it is what makes it very unlikely we'll pick Simmons unless the scouts think he is a perennial All Pro vs the Fab Four all being just good starters. It's what makes this whole thing hard because even if you are absolutely correct in evaluating the players themselves (which seems rare), you have to perfectly predict how they will handle the current scheme while mixed in with the current players (and assume coaching will be done well) and then, on top of all of that, recognize where your division (along with the rest of the NFL to a slightly lesser degree) is going with their schemes. I think this is why trading down is almost the best option - more picks in the top 50 over mulitple years = greater chance to have the overall talent level at every position be good. This in turn gives the flexibility needed to adjust year to year as the trends shift and to shift as needed between the extremes in trends the individual teams offer. I can't remember the last time I didn't want to trade back and this year, with so many players that would fit a need for us available in the top 10, I want to more than most years. When all is said and done this draft, I want a T that will keep Flemming the swing tackle and replace Solder next year, a C that will keep Pulley/Gates as backups, a LB who can cover while not being an embarrassment against the run to pair with Martinez and a WR (or 2 if they can also play big role on STs). All this is hoping our current crop of young DBs will somehow cover the hole at either FS or slot CB depending on where Love plays. We may not be able to do it and we'll have to look at this as a 2 year process - that becomes a definite if we don't trade back in my opinion. Even with a trade back - what is the best way to match these needs to value in the draft? Are we gonna find the best option at C in the second? Or is there someone of equal value on our boards likely to be there in the third? Are we willing to deal with the possible character issues of a Gay jr and get him in the fourth or do we stay away or know someone will take him earlier? Mims (I think that is who GiantsLegacy suggested) may be the BPA but if a C is really close are we better going that way and getting a WR later since the draft is supposed to be so deep? I sure as shit can't answer these questions and wonder how hard a time I would still be having even if I had all of Gettleman's resources. Spotting the needs is the easy part. Good post
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Post by bringsimmsback on Mar 22, 2020 7:42:05 GMT -5
Thanks gentlemen- any thoughts on how we can manage to get a T, C, cover LB and WR in this draft? All starters except for WR? Specific candidates you think will be around at specific points? Past Tackle in the first, finding a third starter gets tougher depending on which direction you go in the second. Aris, it seems you enjoy these types of questions - thoughts?
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Post by TEM on Mar 22, 2020 7:43:46 GMT -5
Absolutely I think everyone other than the Simmons or bust crowd is hoping someone wants to deal and DG gets his negotiating hat on. To come out of April with 2 starting OL and an X-wr would be a homerun. I think all the guys we’re talking about would help us, so I’m cool with any of them. It’s that pesky “value” thing everyone talks about that could be a snag. Value sure is pesky - it is what makes it very unlikely we'll pick Simmons unless the scouts think he is a perennial All Pro vs the Fab Four all being just good starters. It's what makes this whole thing hard because even if you are absolutely correct in evaluating the players themselves (which seems rare), you have to perfectly predict how they will handle the current scheme while mixed in with the current players (and assume coaching will be done well) and then, on top of all of that, recognize where your division (along with the rest of the NFL to a slightly lesser degree) is going with their schemes. I think this is why trading down is almost the best option - more picks in the top 50 over mulitple years = greater chance to have the overall talent level at every position be good. This in turn gives the flexibility needed to adjust year to year as the trends shift and to shift as needed between the extremes in trends the individual teams offer. I can't remember the last time I didn't want to trade back and this year, with so many players that would fit a need for us available in the top 10, I want to more than most years. When all is said and done this draft, I want a T that will keep Flemming the swing tackle and replace Solder next year, a C that will keep Pulley/Gates as backups, a LB who can cover while not being an embarrassment against the run to pair with Martinez and a WR (or 2 if they can also play big role on STs). All this is hoping our current crop of young DBs will somehow cover the hole at either FS or slot CB depending on where Love plays. We may not be able to do it and we'll have to look at this as a 2 year process - that becomes a definite if we don't trade back in my opinion. Even with a trade back - what is the best way to match these needs to value in the draft? Are we gonna find the best option at C in the second? Or is there someone of equal value on our boards likely to be there in the third? Are we willing to deal with the possible character issues of a Gay jr and get him in the fourth or do we stay away or know someone will take him earlier? Mims (I think that is who GiantsLegacy suggested) may be the BPA but if a C is really close are we better going that way and getting a WR later since the draft is supposed to be so deep? I sure as shit can't answer these questions and wonder how hard a time I would still be having even if I had all of Gettleman's resources. Spotting the needs is the easy part. I agree.
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 22, 2020 7:44:42 GMT -5
Thanks gentlemen- any thoughts on how we can manage to get a T, C, cover LB and WR in this draft? All starters except for WR? Specific candidates you think will be around at specific points? Past Tackle in the first, finding a third starter gets tougher depending on which direction you go in the second. Aris, it seems you enjoy these types of questions - thoughts? I think that we would need a trade back scenario to get another 2nd or 3rd (hopefully both)
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Post by bringsimmsback on Mar 22, 2020 7:52:02 GMT -5
Thanks gentlemen- any thoughts on how we can manage to get a T, C, cover LB and WR in this draft? All starters except for WR? Specific candidates you think will be around at specific points? Past Tackle in the first, finding a third starter gets tougher depending on which direction you go in the second. Aris, it seems you enjoy these types of questions - thoughts? I think that we would need a trade back scenario to get another 2nd or 3rd (hopefully both) Yeah, I think it is going to be real hard to get my shopping list otherwise.
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Post by TEM on Mar 22, 2020 7:52:35 GMT -5
Thanks gentlemen- any thoughts on how we can manage to get a T, C, cover LB and WR in this draft? All starters except for WR? Specific candidates you think will be around at specific points? Past Tackle in the first, finding a third starter gets tougher depending on which direction you go in the second. Aris, it seems you enjoy these types of questions - thoughts? I think that we would need a trade back scenario to get another 2nd or 3rd (hopefully both) I would like to get a second 1st round pick. I would not mind 2nd and 3rd, and an additional 2nd if the team is in the lower part of next years draft or a 3rd if they are in the upper part. ( a conditional pick) I think the #4 pick is worth more than a swap and one 2nd and a 3rd.
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 22, 2020 8:03:22 GMT -5
I think that we would need a trade back scenario to get another 2nd or 3rd (hopefully both) Yeah, I think it is going to be real hard to get my shopping list otherwise. Maybe if we got a center like the Temple kid in the late 3rd and then a WR at the top of the 4th?
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 22, 2020 8:04:58 GMT -5
I think that we would need a trade back scenario to get another 2nd or 3rd (hopefully both) I would like to get a second 1st round pick. I would not mind 2nd and 3rd, and an additional 2nd if the team is in the lower part of next years draft or a 3rd if they are in the upper part. ( a conditional pick) I think the #4 pick is worth more than a swap and one 2nd and a 3rd. Depends on how far you are moving back. Very unlikely to get another first to move back 1 or 2 spots (with Miami or LA)
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Post by TEM on Mar 22, 2020 8:11:38 GMT -5
I would like to get a second 1st round pick. I would not mind 2nd and 3rd, and an additional 2nd if the team is in the lower part of next years draft or a 3rd if they are in the upper part. ( a conditional pick) I think the #4 pick is worth more than a swap and one 2nd and a 3rd. Depends on how far you are moving back. Very unlikely to get another first to move back 1 or 2 spots (with Miami or LA) It depends on how desperate they are and how well the FO's art of deception is on their "we have a lot of contenders bidding for our pick" campaign is. I think getting a 2nd 1st round pick is doable.
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 22, 2020 8:15:50 GMT -5
Depends on how far you are moving back. Very unlikely to get another first to move back 1 or 2 spots (with Miami or LA) It depends on how desperate they are and how well the FO's art of deception is on their "we have a lot of contenders bidding for our pick" campaign is. I think getting a 2nd 1st round pick is doable. I will be Gettleman’s biggest fan if he can get another first rounder to move back to pick 5 or 6
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Post by TEM on Mar 22, 2020 8:16:46 GMT -5
It depends on how desperate they are and how well the FO's art of deception is on their "we have a lot of contenders bidding for our pick" campaign is. I think getting a 2nd 1st round pick is doable. I will be Gettleman’s biggest fan if he can get another first rounder to move back to pick 5 or 6 Me too.
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Post by bringsimmsback on Mar 22, 2020 9:19:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I think it is going to be real hard to get my shopping list otherwise. Maybe if we got a center like the Temple kid in the late 3rd and then a WR at the top of the 4th? I don't know. ****ing around with OvertheClock I got the following after a trade back in the 2nd and 4th round (to avoid taking advantage of a stupid computer, I don't take players more than 3 spots off in top ten, 5 spots off in top thirty, 7 in top fifty, 10 top one hundred or 15 off thereafter) 4: R1P4 OT TRISTAN WIRFS IOWA 43: R2P11 C LLOYD CUSHENBERRY LSU 50: R2P18 WR MICHAEL PITTMAN JR. USC 99: R3P35 LB LOGAN WILSON WYOMING 119: R4P13 LB WILLIE GAY JR.MISSISSIPPI STATE 134: R4P28 EDGE ALTON ROBINSON SYRACUSE 150: R5P4 S TANNER MUSE CLEMSON 183: R6P4 EDGE JONATHAN GARVIN MIAMI 218: R7P4 RB RODNEY SMITH MINNESOTA 238: R7P24 G TOMMY KRAEMER NOTRE DAME 247: R7P33 TE C.J. O'GRADY ARKANSAS 255: R7P41 DL ROBERT LANDERS OHIO STATE Don't know nuthin about most of these guys (and only know what I read, anyway, since I don't watch college ball). Read up on the names as they showed up. Tanner Muse seems interesting - great athlete based on RAS but write up at NFL.com describes him as plodding. He seems like a bit of a tweener between S and LB so I wonder if "plodding" was for a S and his is a good 5th round gamble to convert to coverage LB? I've run a bunch of simulations with different draft boards and it seems like any hopes of an OT being there in the 2nd are basically nill to the internet computer drafting world. LB options after Simmons disappear until the 3rd round - getting any before Dye or those I took would require a trade up. More interesting to me is a C being there in the third is 50-50 - front end of 3rd though. Dye, who a few have mentioned here, is almost always available in the 3rd and 4th - I actually missed his name when I decided to do the second trade back in the 4th and ended up missing out on him by 1 pick.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 22, 2020 12:44:22 GMT -5
Quick recap of the best Lloyd Cushenberry III LSU
Not athletic, far better run blocking center vs pass blocking. Anybody who watched the championship game seen him toasted on blitzes quite a bit... Can run block, and while not athletic, can move nose tackles. Run blocking is a FAR better trait as we know for centers...he can power block. Jake Hanson - OregonClassic zone blocker...exact opposite of a Biadasz and Cushenberry, but not quick off the snap...never improved snapping the ball in 4 years as a Duck. Has nice balance, but a 3rd day pick. Nick Harris - WashingtonBest zone blocking center this year...my choice for screens to Barkley. Still needs to get stronger, but the Huskies had a good one...improved his grades all three years. Tyler Biadasz - Wisconsin Run blocking monster...slides slow, and pass protection not his strength. Matt Hennessy - TempleAnother zone blocking master who also has high pass blocking grades. Has some issues, needs to beef up...but Matt could be that 3 or 4 round center who starts year 1. Cesar Ruiz - MichiganThis is a high graded pass blocking center, but again...with centers, they are about run blocking first, and he has issues with that. Still young, and will improve... Thank you Aris good stuff
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Post by GameTime on Mar 22, 2020 14:25:12 GMT -5
Quick recap of the best Lloyd Cushenberry III LSU
Not athletic, far better run blocking center vs pass blocking. Anybody who watched the championship game seen him toasted on blitzes quite a bit... Can run block, and while not athletic, can move nose tackles. Run blocking is a FAR better trait as we know for centers...he can power block. Jake Hanson - OregonClassic zone blocker...exact opposite of a Biadasz and Cushenberry, but not quick off the snap...never improved snapping the ball in 4 years as a Duck. Has nice balance, but a 3rd day pick. Nick Harris - WashingtonBest zone blocking center this year...my choice for screens to Barkley. Still needs to get stronger, but the Huskies had a good one...improved his grades all three years. Tyler Biadasz - Wisconsin Run blocking monster...slides slow, and pass protection not his strength. Matt Hennessy - TempleAnother zone blocking master who also has high pass blocking grades. Has some issues, needs to beef up...but Matt could be that 3 or 4 round center who starts year 1. Cesar Ruiz - MichiganThis is a high graded pass blocking center, but again...with centers, they are about run blocking first, and he has issues with that. Still young, and will improve... Cushenberry....first two words......Not Athletic... Ok...next!!! LOL
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Post by giants8493 on Mar 22, 2020 14:51:37 GMT -5
Depends on how far you are moving back. Very unlikely to get another first to move back 1 or 2 spots (with Miami or LA) It depends on how desperate they are and how well the FO's art of deception is on their "we have a lot of contenders bidding for our pick" campaign is. I think getting a 2nd 1st round pick is doable. The Bears traded the Nos. 3, 67 and 111 picks, as well as a 2018 third-round pick, to the San Francisco 49ers in exchange for the second overall pick. That is a little higher in the draft, but also the most recent example that I can think of a a trade up for one spot. That's a second rounder, 4th and third next year. Are those 3 picks worth a 1st rounder to the dolphins? Eh maybe. Prehaps they can pull something off with Miami like, a 1st round pick and we throw in our 4th for the 1st round pick swap. Something like that may work out. Depends on how badly these teams want "their guy" at qb. If Miami wants Tua and thinks the chargers would trade up with the giants, are they really going to let that happen and miss out on their guy just because a 1st round pick to move one spot is "bad value" in a trade?
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Post by TEM on Mar 22, 2020 14:59:07 GMT -5
It depends on how desperate they are and how well the FO's art of deception is on their "we have a lot of contenders bidding for our pick" campaign is. I think getting a 2nd 1st round pick is doable. The Bears traded the Nos. 3, 67 and 111 picks, as well as a 2018 third-round pick, to the San Francisco 49ers in exchange for the second overall pick. That is a little higher in the draft, but also the most recent example that I can think of a a trade up for one spot. That's a second rounder, 4th and third next year. Are those 3 picks worth a 1st rounder to the dolphins? Eh maybe. Prehaps they can pull something off with Miami like, a 1st round pick and we throw in our 4th for the 1st round pick swap. Something like that may work out. Depends on how badly these teams want "their guy" at qb. If Miami wants Tua and thinks the chargers would trade up with the giants, are they really going to let that happen and miss out on their guy just because a 1st round pick to move one spot is "bad value" in a trade? I depends on supply and demand for the pick.
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