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Post by IrishMike on Mar 25, 2020 18:41:18 GMT -5
I think will also help some talents with injury concerns. No one can check Tua. What if he really is damaged goods? He still isnt getting past 5 because no on can get their doctors to test him out. Also, I feel like its going to be extremely difficult to draft the later round players. Normally this time of year they are looking into them much deeper. The guys drafted 5th 6th 7th round. Now? It's a big question mark. I think any team looking at Tua did their medical exams on him long ago. But you could be right about maybe this helps some guys.
This year will certainly be a crazy draft. Some teams will get steals on players just because teams didn't have the chance to discover them. Could be a great year or horrendous year. Can't wait to see it play out.
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Post by TEM on Mar 25, 2020 18:47:14 GMT -5
k There are always work arounds to conform to a situation. Dr's consult with each other all the time. im not telling you my opinion, but rather what i've heard as to why the draft could potentially be pushed back I also read what I stated also. www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-exams-coronavirus-nfl-20200324-tdlse5ckhfdolplnkx5qwb2rti-story.htmlThe league is working with the NFL Physicians Society, in fact, to establish a national network of physicians who could provide either 1) post-Combine rechecks for Combine attendees who require them or 2) medical exams for players that did not attend the Combine but have drawn interest from NFL clubs.
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Post by thetruth on Mar 25, 2020 18:49:44 GMT -5
would love this. Lets hope
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Post by TheAnalyst on Mar 25, 2020 19:05:39 GMT -5
I think will also help some talents with injury concerns. No one can check Tua. What if he really is damaged goods? He still isnt getting past 5 because no on can get their doctors to test him out. Also, I feel like its going to be extremely difficult to draft the later round players. Normally this time of year they are looking into them much deeper. The guys drafted 5th 6th 7th round. Now? It's a big question mark. I think any team looking at Tua did their medical exams on him long ago. But you could be right about maybe this helps some guys.
This year will certainly be a crazy draft. Some teams will get steals on players just because teams didn't have the chance to discover them. Could be a great year or horrendous year. Can't wait to see it play out.
The problem is, Tua just recently was able to throw and move around. Teams doctors havent seen that. He just released a video of him. That's all they got. Miami has a tough choice to make. And LA if they are interested.
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 25, 2020 19:13:25 GMT -5
The problem is, Tua just recently was able to throw and move around. Teams doctors havent seen that. He just released a video of him. That's all they got. Miami has a tough choice to make. And LA if they are interested. Yeah a lot will depend how healed he was. I'm sure top teams looking at him did a very in depth analysis of him already from a medical stand point, but who knows how healed he was. Did you see the video, made me LOL. Looked like something Uncle Rico would shoot.
I'm stuck down in Virginia and been listening to a lot of local radio, all Redskins talk. These guys seem completely on board with taking Tua or any other QB. Doesn't seem like any of them are sold on Haskins. They have been talking to "sources" in the organization and seem to think it's a real possibility that the new HC and new GM (kind of) will want their own guy and not want to be tied to Haskins. It can't help Haskins that he has not had the chance to get in front of these guys due to the coronavirus either.
I don't think we will get a chance for Young but would love for the Skins to pass on him.
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Post by TEM on Mar 25, 2020 19:22:15 GMT -5
The problem is, Tua just recently was able to throw and move around. Teams doctors havent seen that. He just released a video of him. That's all they got. Miami has a tough choice to make. And LA if they are interested. Yeah a lot will depend how healed he was. I'm sure top teams looking at him did a very in depth analysis of him already from a medical stand point, but who knows how healed he was. Did you see the video, made me LOL. Looked like something Uncle Rico would shoot.
I'm stuck down in Virginia and been listening to a lot of local radio, all Redskins talk. These guys seem completely on board with taking Tua or any other QB. Doesn't seem like any of them are sold on Haskins. They have been talking to "sources" in the organization and seem to think it's a real possibility that the new HC and new GM (kind of) will want their own guy and not want to be tied to Haskins. It can't help Haskins that he has not had the chance to get in front of these guys due to the coronavirus either.
I don't think we will get a chance for Young but would love for the Skins to pass on him.
His Doctors and Physical Therapists have a lot of data on his recovery, progress records, imaging can be obtained. . Any team's physician staff should be able do an accurate case study review with consulting with the parties that treated him.
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 25, 2020 19:26:01 GMT -5
His Doctors and Physical Therapists have a lot of data on his recovery, progress records, imagining can be obtained. . Any team's physician staff should be able do an accurate case study review with consulting with the parties that treated him. Just going off what everyone on the radio is saying is that teams want their own doctors to look at these guys. There is a reason the teams pay all this money to have these doctors on staff. I personally have no idea, but I have heard the same thing repeated over and over recently. With the draft especially but also with free agents, Golden Clowney and Cam all being mentioned specifically.
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 25, 2020 19:59:20 GMT -5
we'll see where we are at in 4 weeks from now. It may be possible for teams to send dr's to Tua just before the draft, unlikely, but that is 4+ weeks away.
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Post by Roosevelt on Mar 25, 2020 20:21:34 GMT -5
DRAFT. I COULD SEE IT MOVED UP A MONTH, MAY?
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Post by ratbastich on Mar 26, 2020 6:35:04 GMT -5
By now they should know who they were going after. They have game tape, they had the Combine. The only thing they are missing is some BS Pro-Days where they can just look at them some more and maybe catch sight of an outlier. This is when we see what your scouting department is made out of. Not sure that this is true re: later round picks I would hope they have a pool set up to draw from in the later rounds too and a number of what if scenarios.
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Post by rain on Mar 26, 2020 7:51:05 GMT -5
This is why the NFL told all teams yesterday to shut down their facilities. Because some teams in certain states had not choice, so they are making it fair for all teams.
My big issue and the medicals. None of these players can be checked out medically, so any college player with a medical concern might get screwed here. But that isn't likely to change in a month anyway.
Also anyone find it funny that "rain" wants a delay?
Lol BRILLIANT!
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Post by TEM on Mar 26, 2020 7:54:35 GMT -5
That was hilarious. "rain delay" What is up with the caps? It does not make your point any more defined.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 26, 2020 9:24:14 GMT -5
Just read teams from hard hit area's like our own NY Giants and the LA / NO and such want it moved back they can't even work from their facilities. Micky Loomis said it's not fantasy football we can't run our drafts from our homes our facilities are closed. Makes more sense when you look at that way.
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Post by ratbastich on Mar 26, 2020 9:46:53 GMT -5
Just read teams from hard hit area's like our own NY Giants and the LA / NO and such want it moved back they can't even work from their facilities. Micky Loomis said it's not fantasy football we can't run our drafts from our homes our facilities are closed. Makes more sense when you look at that way. They could call their picks in and Goodell could come to the stage in a hazmat suit.
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Post by Nite on Mar 26, 2020 11:02:28 GMT -5
The op is so psyched about his question that he’s screaming for everyone to hear it. WE HEAR YOU! What? Can you talk LOUDER. Lots of noise here..
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Post by Nite on Mar 26, 2020 11:06:33 GMT -5
The problem is, Tua just recently was able to throw and move around. Teams doctors havent seen that. He just released a video of him. That's all they got. Miami has a tough choice to make. And LA if they are interested. Yeah a lot will depend how healed he was. I'm sure top teams looking at him did a very in depth analysis of him already from a medical stand point, but who knows how healed he was. Did you see the video, made me LOL. Looked like something Uncle Rico would shoot.
I'm stuck down in Virginia and been listening to a lot of local radio, all Redskins talk. These guys seem completely on board with taking Tua or any other QB. Doesn't seem like any of them are sold on Haskins. They have been talking to "sources" in the organization and seem to think it's a real possibility that the new HC and new GM (kind of) will want their own guy and not want to be tied to Haskins. It can't help Haskins that he has not had the chance to get in front of these guys due to the coronavirus either.
I don't think we will get a chance for Young but would love for the Skins to pass on him.
Great... 2 first rd qb picks in a row and if the Tua stinks it up, make it 3 for next year..In the meantime we will be stocking our OL/DL shelves with quality talent..(and a backup rb)
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Post by Nite on Mar 26, 2020 11:09:05 GMT -5
DRAFT. I COULD SEE IT MOVED UP A MONTH, MAY? Wait, how did you get a gif of my ex sister-in-law?
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Post by TEM on Mar 26, 2020 12:06:14 GMT -5
Just read teams from hard hit area's like our own NY Giants and the LA / NO and such want it moved back they can't even work from their facilities. Micky Loomis said it's not fantasy football we can't run our drafts from our homes our facilities are closed. Makes more sense when you look at that way. It is different today than it was even 5 years ago. A virtual office even with your in office phone extension can be set up in one's residence rapidly. Access to all your files sheared resources. The only difference is physical location. It is no different than a satellite or remote office for a big company.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 26, 2020 12:16:42 GMT -5
Just read teams from hard hit area's like our own NY Giants and the LA / NO and such want it moved back they can't even work from their facilities. Micky Loomis said it's not fantasy football we can't run our drafts from our homes our facilities are closed. Makes more sense when you look at that way. It is different today than it was even 5 years ago. A virtual office even with your in office phone extension can be set up in one's residence rapidly. Access to all your files sheared resources. The only difference is physical location. It is no different than a satellite or remote office for a big company. I get that. Just putting out what I read.
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Post by TEM on Mar 26, 2020 12:25:57 GMT -5
It is different today than it was even 5 years ago. A virtual office even with your in office phone extension can be set up in one's residence rapidly. Access to all your files sheared resources. The only difference is physical location. It is no different than a satellite or remote office for a big company. I get that. Just putting out what I read. It is the scared to use technology individuals. A team's entire draft can be run in a virtual office. An Email is still an Email . A text is still a text. A video conference is still a meeting. The trouble is the less tech savvy 50+ are stuck in their AOL universe.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Mar 26, 2020 12:28:11 GMT -5
Some cruise lines are extending 30 day suspention to now 60 day. Not looking good.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 26, 2020 12:33:03 GMT -5
I get that. Just putting out what I read. It is the scared to use technology individuals. A team's entire draft can be run in a virtual office. An Email is still an Email . A text is still a text. A video conference is still a meeting. The trouble is the less tech savvy 50+ are stuck in their AOL universe. This is a tricky time GMs like to have their team around them and I know it can all be done remotely what if it fails for some reason happened to my son the other day. Just saying I think they can do it if I'm A team that has to do it from the GMs living room I want all the teams to have to do it the same way.
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 26, 2020 12:59:57 GMT -5
Why? It can be done without any Physical contact between parties. teams like NYG have a full lockdown in their jurisdiction. Not 100% familiar with whats going on in the states but it gives them a competitive disadvantage where the lockdown hasn't occurred yet. Can't bring in prospects and have the docs look at them. But lets see I think that the NFL has canceled all pre-draft visits, regardless of city. I still think though that it is harder to work on draft prep from home (for those teams that have closed their facilities) as compared to working on draft prep when everyone is gathered at the team facility (for those facilities that are still open).
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Post by TEM on Mar 26, 2020 13:01:40 GMT -5
It is the scared to use technology individuals. A team's entire draft can be run in a virtual office. An Email is still an Email . A text is still a text. A video conference is still a meeting. The trouble is the less tech savvy 50+ are stuck in their AOL universe. This is a tricky time GMs like to have their team around them and I know it can all be done remotely what if it fails for some reason happened to my son the other day. Just saying I think they can do it if I'm A team that has to do it from the GMs living room I want all the teams to have to do it the same way. Failures can happen. They can also happen within the confines of the facility. 9-11 was a wakeup call to this country. It taught a hard lesson. Can continuity of business endure in a less accommodable environment So Companies develop Disaster contingency plans. In information Technology it is referred to as Disaster recovery. Since most Industries are IT centralized. It is the IT department that comes up with these measures. I have worked on quite s few DR plans. They are usually scaled: Inconvenience: some systems are down but work flow should no be hampered. Down time is minimal. Disaster: Major systems are effected. Down time will be significant. Catastrophic: The ability of the company's future is in question .Systems will be down for the foreseeable future. We would build contingency mitigation modules based upon the severity of the incident. Some of them were. Can your job be done with pen and paper. If not . How can that task be conformed to be able to. The NFL right now is Inconvenienced. Some of the Country's business are in Disastrous or Catastrophic situation because of lack of what they need to do business. A restaurant can not function in a virtual office.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 26, 2020 13:38:36 GMT -5
This is a tricky time GMs like to have their team around them and I know it can all be done remotely what if it fails for some reason happened to my son the other day. Just saying I think they can do it if I'm A team that has to do it from the GMs living room I want all the teams to have to do it the same way. Failures can happen. They can also happen within the confines of the facility. 9-11 was a wakeup call to this country. It taught a hard lesson. Can continuity of business endure in a less accommodable environment So Companies develop Disaster contingency plans. In information Technology it is referred to as Disaster recovery. Since most Industries are IT centralized. It is the IT department that comes up with these measures. I have worked on quite s few DR plans. They are usually scaled: Inconvenience: some systems are down but work flow should no be hampered. Down time is minimal. Disaster: Major systems are effected. Down time will be significant. Catastrophic: The ability of the company's future is in question .Systems will be down for the foreseeable future. We would build contingency mitigation modules based upon the severity of the incident. Some of them were. Can your job be done with pen and paper. If not . How can that task be conformed to be able to. The NFL right now is Inconvenienced. Some of the Country's business are in Disastrous or Catastrophic situation because of lack of what they need to do business. A restaurant can not function in a virtual office. Thank you TEM I didn't really know the inter workings of the IT world as it pertains to business interesting, most everyone uses it just didn't know how it was protected.
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 26, 2020 15:32:04 GMT -5
Great... 2 first rd qb picks in a row and if the Tua stinks it up, make it 3 for next year..In the meantime we will be stocking our OL/DL shelves with quality talent..(and a backup rb) I personally don't think Tua will be that good and would love for them to take him. If they do though they will keep him a bit longer because he's "their guy". Funny thing is all these Skins fans here seem to be on board with getting Tua and shipping Haskins away.
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Post by TEM on Mar 26, 2020 19:22:23 GMT -5
The show goes on. Well In an abridged version.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 5:59:38 GMT -5
I think will also help some talents with injury concerns. No one can check Tua. What if he really is damaged goods? He still isnt getting past 5 because no on can get their doctors to test him out. Also, I feel like its going to be extremely difficult to draft the later round players. Normally this time of year they are looking into them much deeper. The guys drafted 5th 6th 7th round. Now? It's a big question mark. I think any team looking at Tua did their medical exams on him long ago. But you could be right about maybe this helps some guys.
This year will certainly be a crazy draft. Some teams will get steals on players just because teams didn't have the chance to discover them. Could be a great year or horrendous year. Can't wait to see it play out.
With an injury like that, and the healing being such a huge follow up need...having access again is imperative with a hip...and Tua. That said, being the QB having the most effect on wins and losses, versus say a valueless running back...teams will risk a hip far more with a Tua vs a running back.
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Post by TEM on Mar 27, 2020 7:48:28 GMT -5
I think any team looking at Tua did their medical exams on him long ago. But you could be right about maybe this helps some guys.
This year will certainly be a crazy draft. Some teams will get steals on players just because teams didn't have the chance to discover them. Could be a great year or horrendous year. Can't wait to see it play out.
With an injury like that, and the healing being such a huge follow up need...having access again is imperative with a hip...and Tua. That said, being the QB having the most effect on wins and losses, versus say a valueless running back...teams will risk a hip far more with a Tua vs a running back. What RB did you have going within the first 10 picks?
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Post by jb456 on Mar 27, 2020 8:01:40 GMT -5
The NFL wants the draft at this time because its the ONLY game in town. The ratings now will be the highest in history....
Think about it, no other sports. They have a monopoly on the event. Besides, they have been preparing for the virus format draft for a while...
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