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Post by rbe40 on Apr 11, 2020 21:38:32 GMT -5
I don't want to risk losing him at 36. This guy is too good. He's probably a Top 15 overall prospect on tape, but the athletic testing will drop him. He's so polished and disciplined, he sets a strong edge and wins in the pass-rush with power and hands, perfect scheme fit too. Best case scenario is he falls to 36 to the Giants.
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 11, 2020 23:28:11 GMT -5
Hell no This guy is positionless Way too small for a 3/4 DE Way too big for an edge rusher
Disappeared for long stretches in big games.. I'd rather stay at 36 and get Okwara or Uche if we go edge guy..
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 12, 2020 7:15:12 GMT -5
Hell no This guy is positionless Way too small for a 3/4 DE Way too big for an edge rusher Disappeared for long stretches in big games.. I'd rather stay at 36 and get Okwara or Uche if we go edge guy.. I'd also rather not trade away draft capitol to move up. Edge, Center, WR all should be in play in the 2nd for us, and hopefully the team has a really tough decision to make on a number of highly rated players.
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 12, 2020 7:34:09 GMT -5
Positionless, unathletic player ... no thank you.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 12, 2020 8:39:05 GMT -5
Positionless, unathletic player ... no thank you. How is he positionless? He looks like a prototypical 3-4 DE to me. Could play 4-3 DE as well.
Either way I would not trade up for him. I don't think we have room on the team for him. If Williams wasn't on the tag we could use him but at this moment we have no need for him.
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Post by rbe40 on Apr 12, 2020 8:49:30 GMT -5
Hell no This guy is positionless Way too small for a 3/4 DE Way too big for an edge rusher Disappeared for long stretches in big games.. I'd rather stay at 36 and get Okwara or Uche if we go edge guy.. Isaiah Simmons is positionless too. That just makes Epenesa versatile along your front. Which is a positive.
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Post by rbe40 on Apr 12, 2020 8:50:26 GMT -5
Positionless, unathletic player ... no thank you. Isaiah Simmons is positionless. It's a good thing for him but a bad thing for Epenesa? Epenesa can line up all over the front. I see that as a positive, not a negative.
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Post by rbe40 on Apr 12, 2020 8:51:59 GMT -5
Positionless, unathletic player ... no thank you. How is he positionless? He looks like a prototypical 3-4 DE to me. Could play 4-3 DE as well.
Either way I would not trade up for him. I don't think we have room on the team for him. If Williams wasn't on the tag we could use him but at this moment we have no need for him.
He's a base 3-4 DE who can play 4-3 DE and 4-3 DT (3-tech) Just another perfect fit as a versatile, multiple D-Lineman that Judge/Gettleman are looking for.
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Post by TEM on Apr 12, 2020 8:57:41 GMT -5
How is he positionless? He looks like a prototypical 3-4 DE to me. Could play 4-3 DE as well.
Either way I would not trade up for him. I don't think we have room on the team for him. If Williams wasn't on the tag we could use him but at this moment we have no need for him.
He's a base 3-4 DE who can play 4-3 DE and 4-3 DT (3-tech) Just another perfect fit as a versatile, multiple D-Lineman that Judge/Gettleman are looking for. Why would we trade up for him when we can Draft a 0-5 tech in Brown @ 4 and we do not give up picks.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 12, 2020 9:03:33 GMT -5
How is he positionless? He looks like a prototypical 3-4 DE to me. Could play 4-3 DE as well.
Either way I would not trade up for him. I don't think we have room on the team for him. If Williams wasn't on the tag we could use him but at this moment we have no need for him.
He's a base 3-4 DE who can play 4-3 DE and 4-3 DT (3-tech) Just another perfect fit as a versatile, multiple D-Lineman that Judge/Gettleman are looking for. I think he is a very good player, I just don't think we have a spot for him. If we didn't have Williams on the franchise tag it would be different. So since we have Williams and have other big needs I don't think we trade up for him and doubt we take him if he falls to us at 36
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 12, 2020 9:04:04 GMT -5
He's a base 3-4 DE who can play 4-3 DE and 4-3 DT (3-tech) Just another perfect fit as a versatile, multiple D-Lineman that Judge/Gettleman are looking for. Why would we trade up for him when we can Draft a 0-5 tech in Brown @ 4 and we do not give up picks. We can't take Brown at 4 because this website would melt down lol.
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Post by infinite420 on Apr 12, 2020 9:09:33 GMT -5
Why would we trade up for him when we can Draft a 0-5 tech in Brown @ 4 and we do not give up picks. We can't take Brown at 4 because this website would melt down lol. Haha, thats true. But some of his highlights are utterly jaw dropping. Theres been a few times, while watching his film, that I tell mysel he will be the best DT in the NFL. He is SO athletic for a guy his size, the combine did him no justice.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 12, 2020 9:12:31 GMT -5
We can't take Brown at 4 because this website would melt down lol. Haha, thats true. But some of his highlights are utterly jaw dropping. Theres been a few times, while watching his film, that I tell mysel he will be the best DT in the NFL. He is SO athletic for a guy his size, the combine did him no justice. I agree. We 100% do not need him but how could we be mad at getting such a great player? We would still have some huge holes to fill and would be running out of picks. Now if we did a trade back (or double trade back) and took him at around 6-8 but got a bunch of extra picks it would be ok.
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Post by GameTime on Apr 12, 2020 9:12:35 GMT -5
I don't want to risk losing him at 36. This guy is too good. He's probably a Top 15 overall prospect on tape, but the athletic testing will drop him. He's so polished and disciplined, he sets a strong edge and wins in the pass-rush with power and hands, perfect scheme fit too. Best case scenario is he falls to 36 to the Giants. why trade away draft capitol? What deal were you thinking? Not getting this at all. I like player just not to move up for.
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 12, 2020 10:09:37 GMT -5
Positionless, unathletic player ... no thank you. Isaiah Simmons is positionless. It's a good thing for him but a bad thing for Epenesa? Epenesa can line up all over the front. I see that as a positive, not a negative. Simmons is not positionless ... he is the opposite of positionless because he can play multiple positions
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 12, 2020 10:42:20 GMT -5
Hell no This guy is positionless Way too small for a 3/4 DE Way too big for an edge rusher Disappeared for long stretches in big games.. I'd rather stay at 36 and get Okwara or Uche if we go edge guy.. Isaiah Simmons is positionless too. That just makes Epenesa versatile along your front. Which is a positive. And I don't want anything to do with him either And this guy is nowhere good enough to throw away valuable draft assets when we can probably get someone better just staying at 36 for defense
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 11:06:45 GMT -5
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Post by Blue Hulk on Apr 12, 2020 11:53:29 GMT -5
He lit Barkley up in college. Sent him flying.
That being said....not worthy of a trade up. I would trade up for Antoine Winfield
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Post by bringsimmsback on Apr 12, 2020 12:05:53 GMT -5
I think the only way we get a Center in this year's draft is if we get more picks - not less - so I would be against this.
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 12, 2020 16:00:18 GMT -5
there is talk if we trade up its for a reciever... Possibly Jefferson.. (Looks for a WTF are you doing emoji)
in a draft stacked till the middle of the 5tb round with dynamic playmakers that could end up being 80 catch for 1200 yard players why would we waste draft picks to do this ?
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 12, 2020 16:40:01 GMT -5
We can't take Brown at 4 because this website would melt down lol. Haha, thats true. But some of his highlights are utterly jaw dropping. Theres been a few times, while watching his film, that I tell mysel he will be the best DT in the NFL. He is SO athletic for a guy his size, the combine did him no justice. I watched Brown twice this year, once against Bama. He was a one man gang. Penetration all day long, blocked passes, and this was being double teamed all day. I kept saying to my friends who is this #5 at DT. He's going to be great. My prediction Carolina at #7 in the draft.
Espanosa goes late 1st rd.
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 12, 2020 16:45:43 GMT -5
Haha, thats true. But some of his highlights are utterly jaw dropping. Theres been a few times, while watching his film, that I tell mysel he will be the best DT in the NFL. He is SO athletic for a guy his size, the combine did him no justice. I watched Brown twice this year, once against Bama. He was a one man gang. Penetration all day long, blocked passes, and this was being double teamed all day. I kept saying to my friends who is this #5 at DT. He's going to be great. My prediction Carolina at #7 in the draft. Alternate reality We take Reisner at 37 and we have at the very least our RT fixed for 7-10 years last year.. We don't make the trade for Williams... Brown and Okudah are glaring BPA for me and I'd be happy with either Flavor to taste,make the D line beastly or get the best corner prospect in 10 years ...
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 12, 2020 16:49:05 GMT -5
I think the only way we get a Center in this year's draft is if we get more picks - not less - so I would be against this. Not sure we need more picks to get a Center but we certainly need more picks to fill all of our holes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 16:56:02 GMT -5
Haha, thats true. But some of his highlights are utterly jaw dropping. Theres been a few times, while watching his film, that I tell mysel he will be the best DT in the NFL. He is SO athletic for a guy his size, the combine did him no justice. I watched Brown twice this year, once against Bama. He was a one man gang. Penetration all day long, blocked passes, and this was being double teamed all day. I kept saying to my friends who is this #5 at DT. He's going to be great. My prediction Carolina at #7 in the draft.
Espanosa goes late 1st rd.
I know Dave Gettleman is salivating at this kid who tore it up for 4 years at Auburn...but it's as bad a pick as the higher value Okudah.
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Post by bluebuddha on Apr 12, 2020 17:03:40 GMT -5
I don't want to risk losing him at 36. This guy is too good. He's probably a Top 15 overall prospect on tape, but the athletic testing will drop him. He's so polished and disciplined, he sets a strong edge and wins in the pass-rush with power and hands, perfect scheme fit too. Best case scenario is he falls to 36 to the Giants. I wouldn't trade up for him but if he is there is there in 2nd I wouldn't hesitate to draft him. He looks like a guy that the Patriots or Ravens draft . Hard worker with non stop motor that gets to the QB with sound technique and leverage and uses his strength and length effectively .
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 12, 2020 17:03:44 GMT -5
I watched Brown twice this year, once against Bama. He was a one man gang. Penetration all day long, blocked passes, and this was being double teamed all day. I kept saying to my friends who is this #5 at DT. He's going to be great. My prediction Carolina at #7 in the draft. Alternate reality We take Reisner at 37 and we have at the very least our RT fixed for 7-10 years last year.. We don't make the trade for Williams... Brown and Okudah are glaring BPA for me and I'd be happy with either Flavor to taste,make the D line beastly or get the best corner prospect in 10 years ... unfortunately we can't just go back in time, alas!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 17:24:58 GMT -5
LOL...at the 1:50 mark...poor QB. 4:21 an incredible quick spin move although too late..Ruggs for the TD. 7:00 minute mark, play of the game...this was a great game live. 8:45 nice tackle for a loss...other than this play, Brown has been handled easily most game. Knocks down the game ending brutality of QB play of Mac Jones...yes this was a gem game. Najee Harris > Barkley...just sayin'
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Post by rbe40 on Apr 12, 2020 17:32:20 GMT -5
I don't want to risk losing him at 36. This guy is too good. He's probably a Top 15 overall prospect on tape, but the athletic testing will drop him. He's so polished and disciplined, he sets a strong edge and wins in the pass-rush with power and hands, perfect scheme fit too. Best case scenario is he falls to 36 to the Giants. I wouldn't trade up for him but if he is there is there in 2nd I wouldn't hesitate to draft him. He looks like a guy that the Patriots or Ravens draft . Hard worker with non stop motor that gets to the QB with sound technique and leverage and uses his strength and length effectively . This. Prototypical Bill Belichick D-Lineman, this guy is it. Whoever drafts Epenesa is getting a damn good football player. Patriots at #23 seems logical. I'm hoping he falls
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Post by rbe40 on Apr 12, 2020 17:37:28 GMT -5
LOL...at the 1:50 mark...poor QB. 4:21 an incredible quick spin move although too late..Ruggs for the TD. 7:00 minute mark, play of the game...this was a great game live. 8:45 nice tackle for a loss...other than this play, Brown has been handled easily most game. Knocks down the game ending brutality of QB play of Mac Jones...yes this was a gem game. Najee Harris > Barkley...just sayin' 1:15 mark Brown gets stood up at the LOS by the RG 1on1, gets zero push. QB has all day despite Brown having a pure 1on1 matchup with the RG And that's why he's an overrated prospect. His pad level out of his stance is too high, negating all his leverage. He has no moves other than a bull-rush. NFL Guards will handle him with no problem. Derrick Brown is overrated. Leonard Williams and Dexter Lawrence were both better prospects coming out, for example.
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Post by rbe40 on Apr 12, 2020 17:39:31 GMT -5
Epenesa kicked that Left Tackle's butt all game long.
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