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Post by infinite420 on Apr 19, 2020 11:18:01 GMT -5
The Jets have been shopping Adams for some time. They also have some draft capital to use as ammo.
Would you trade the #4 pick for Adams, #11, and #68 (LW) or #79?
We have Solder and likely Tate coming off the books next year so paying him may not be an issue and this would really sweeten our defense for many years.
I know we have a few contracts coming up, especially with LW, but we also have a few trade chips of our own in Engram, BJ Hill and Tomlinson.
What say you?
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Post by mikethenygfan on Apr 19, 2020 11:25:11 GMT -5
The Jets have been shopping Adams for some time. They also have some draft capital to use as ammo. Would you trade the #4 pick for Adams, #11, and #68 (LW) or #79? We have Solder and likely Tate coming off the books next year so paying him may not be an issue and this would really sweeten our defense for many years. I know we have a few contracts coming up, especially with LW, but we also have a few trade chips of our own in Engram, BJ Hill and Tomlinson. What say you? i think i would take that trade. Probably still get one of the tackles at 11
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Post by GameTime on Apr 19, 2020 11:25:19 GMT -5
The Jets have been shopping Adams for some time. They also have some draft capital to use as ammo. Would you trade the #4 pick for Adams, #11, and #68 (LW) or #79? We have Solder and likely Tate coming off the books next year so paying him may not be an issue and this would really sweeten our defense for many years. I know we have a few contracts coming up, especially with LW, but we also have a few trade chips of our own in Engram, BJ Hill and Tomlinson. What say you? not sure I would "waste" time on great safety. QB, OT, Edge, CB are the top impact spots. Safety is kind of down on list. He is a great player though for sure.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 19, 2020 11:25:20 GMT -5
Does he play OT , asking for a friend? With the 11th pick we'd still have a good shot at the OT's. It's definitely a little further back than you'd like to be. Adams would immediately change the defense. He's another player at a non-preimuim position you're going to eventually have to pay though.
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Post by GameTime on Apr 19, 2020 11:25:59 GMT -5
The Jets have been shopping Adams for some time. They also have some draft capital to use as ammo. Would you trade the #4 pick for Adams, #11, and #68 (LW) or #79? We have Solder and likely Tate coming off the books next year so paying him may not be an issue and this would really sweeten our defense for many years. I know we have a few contracts coming up, especially with LW, but we also have a few trade chips of our own in Engram, BJ Hill and Tomlinson. What say you? i think i would take that trade. Probably still get one of the tackles at 11 the Jets may take the OT the Giants really want tho.
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Post by mikethenygfan on Apr 19, 2020 11:27:00 GMT -5
i think i would take that trade. Probably still get one of the tackles at 11 the Jets may take the OT the Giants really want tho. true, If they are that set on one player then they should stay put.
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Post by lexington11 on Apr 19, 2020 11:44:25 GMT -5
Does he play OT , asking for a friend? do you people realize this team needs defense just as much if not more than an OT?
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Post by lexington11 on Apr 19, 2020 11:45:20 GMT -5
Does he play OT , asking for a friend? With the 11th pick we'd still have a good shot at the OT's. It's definitely a little further back than you'd like to be. Adams would immediately change the defense. He's another player at a non-preimuim position you're going to eventually have to pay though. safety has become a pretty premium position for the giants of late.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 19, 2020 12:41:29 GMT -5
The Jets have been shopping Adams for some time. They also have some draft capital to use as ammo. Would you trade the #4 pick for Adams, #11, and #68 (LW) or #79? We have Solder and likely Tate coming off the books next year so paying him may not be an issue and this would really sweeten our defense for many years. I know we have a few contracts coming up, especially with LW, but we also have a few trade chips of our own in Engram, BJ Hill and Tomlinson. What say you? not sure I would "waste" time on great safety. QB, OT, Edge, CB are the top impact spots. Safety is kind of down on list. He is a great player though for sure. I agree since Collins reset the market a guy like Adams is gonna break that market again. The Jets probably wanna kick Snider where it counts lol. Better be developing your safety's from now on.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 19, 2020 12:46:47 GMT -5
The Jets don't need to trade up if they want to go OT. Some mocks like McShea only have one OT (Thomas) taken in the top 30. They could jump a few spots if they need but I don't see the need to go that high to #4.
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 19, 2020 12:51:11 GMT -5
The Jets have been shopping Adams for some time. They also have some draft capital to use as ammo. Would you trade the #4 pick for Adams, #11, and #68 (LW) or #79? We have Solder and likely Tate coming off the books next year so paying him may not be an issue and this would really sweeten our defense for many years. I know we have a few contracts coming up, especially with LW, but we also have a few trade chips of our own in Engram, BJ Hill and Tomlinson. What say you? not sure I would "waste" time on great safety. QB, OT, Edge, CB are the top impact spots. Safety is kind of down on list. He is a great player though for sure. Really don't want to start paying for players like this before the team is on the other side of a .500 team.. And word is he is a headcase. This is a move when you finally turn the corner and are a piece or 2 away..or in a win now window Someone like the Ravens or 49ers could do this
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 19, 2020 13:05:18 GMT -5
not sure I would "waste" time on great safety. QB, OT, Edge, CB are the top impact spots. Safety is kind of down on list. He is a great player though for sure. Really don't want to start paying for players like this before the team is on the other side of a .500 team.. And word is he is a headcase. This is a move when you finally turn the corner and are a piece or 2 away..or in a win now window Someone like the Ravens or 49ers could do this Not sure I'd call him a headcase, but he definitely likes to talk to the media, and has no filter. Personally, I would not do that trade, he is already talking about making more money, not where I would invest it for our team.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 19, 2020 13:07:13 GMT -5
not sure I would "waste" time on great safety. QB, OT, Edge, CB are the top impact spots. Safety is kind of down on list. He is a great player though for sure. Really don't want to start paying for players like this before the team is on the other side of a .500 team.. And word is he is a headcase. This is a move when you finally turn the corner and are a piece or 2 away..or in a win now window Someone like the Ravens or 49ers could do this If a team is finishing off a superbowl caliber defense sure. Think we will be fine with Peppers and hopefully Love.
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Post by hadenough on Apr 19, 2020 13:18:16 GMT -5
The Jets have been shopping Adams for some time. They also have some draft capital to use as ammo. Would you trade the #4 pick for Adams, #11, and #68 (LW) or #79? We have Solder and likely Tate coming off the books next year so paying him may not be an issue and this would really sweeten our defense for many years. I know we have a few contracts coming up, especially with LW, but we also have a few trade chips of our own in Engram, BJ Hill and Tomlinson. What say you? Sure...that’s a great trade for NYG. I just don’t know why the Jets would do it. They would give up a pro bowler, high first round pick and another pick. That’s a lot to move for a non QB. But on the Giants end...that’s a great deal.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 19, 2020 13:46:58 GMT -5
First off that is an amazing trade offer that I doubt the Jets would offer. The problem is I don't think we have a spot for Adams. He's a terrific player for sure but we have two guys playing S already IMO. If the Peppers trade never happened then yes I would make that trade (depending how you judge the players on the board for us).
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Post by bluebuddha on Apr 19, 2020 14:48:06 GMT -5
First off that is an amazing trade offer that I doubt the Jets would offer. The problem is I don't think we have a spot for Adams. He's a terrific player for sure but we have two guys playing S already IMO. If the Peppers trade never happened then yes I would make that trade (depending how you judge the players on the board for us). I would take any playmaker on D at this point. I don't think Jets would give that much. He is the main reason our offense could not do anything against them. We need guys like that. The combo of Adam's at FS, Peppers at SS with Baker and Bradberry on the outside would be fantastic. Julian love did well last year but he's just another guy.
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Post by mikethenygfan on Apr 19, 2020 21:04:29 GMT -5
First off that is an amazing trade offer that I doubt the Jets would offer. The problem is I don't think we have a spot for Adams. He's a terrific player for sure but we have two guys playing S already IMO. If the Peppers trade never happened then yes I would make that trade (depending how you judge the players on the board for us). thats some high praise for love to say we dont have a spot for adams.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 19, 2020 21:13:45 GMT -5
First off that is an amazing trade offer that I doubt the Jets would offer. The problem is I don't think we have a spot for Adams. He's a terrific player for sure but we have two guys playing S already IMO. If the Peppers trade never happened then yes I would make that trade (depending how you judge the players on the board for us). thats some high praise for love to say we dont have a spot for adams. I'm not saying Love is as good as Adams, but it's also not like we don't have someone that can start there. If Adams was a Center it'd be different haha.
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Post by mikethenygfan on Apr 19, 2020 21:18:26 GMT -5
thats some high praise for love to say we dont have a spot for adams. I'm not saying Love is as good as Adams, but it's also not like we don't have someone that can start there. If Adams was a Center it'd be different haha. im not convinced love is a good starter. Also couldn’t Adams do alot of things simmons could do? I would be okay with getting adams and one of these top tackles
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 19, 2020 21:35:15 GMT -5
im not convinced love is a good starter. Also couldn’t Adams do alot of things simmons could do? I would be okay with getting adams and one of these top tackles I think Love will be a very good starter for us. Nothing to base that on than my own opinion. To be honest I didn't put a ton of thought into this trade proposal because I didn't think it would be a real option.
I think Jamal Adams is a fantastic safety, but he is not what Simmons is. Simmons is 6'4" and plays LB. Adams is 6' and plays S. Simmons will be one of the fastest guys in the NFL, which is crazy at his size. Adams to his credit is a very quick player, probably quicker than Simmons even.
Now many teams are taking a player like Adams and making him play hybrid LB, so we could do that for sure. It would be a huge risk to do it with a guy already finding success at Safety. If he didn't succeed at LB then you just destroyed a great Safety for nothing. I think Adams is a guy that will find success doing what ever you need though.
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Post by TEM on Apr 20, 2020 8:33:44 GMT -5
The Jets have been shopping Adams for some time. They also have some draft capital to use as ammo. Would you trade the #4 pick for Adams, #11, and #68 (LW) or #79? We have Solder and likely Tate coming off the books next year so paying him may not be an issue and this would really sweeten our defense for many years. I know we have a few contracts coming up, especially with LW, but we also have a few trade chips of our own in Engram, BJ Hill and Tomlinson. What say you? What do you do with Peppers in the off season. Let him walk ? I do not see the FO paying both of them. Is it worth the draft capital to let one Safety we traded for last offseason to not sign him and trade for another? In doing so give up a premier pick. I fail to see the value in that kind of move. Just my opinion.
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 20, 2020 8:33:46 GMT -5
The Jets don't need to trade up if they want to go OT. Some mocks like McShea only have one OT (Thomas) taken in the top 30. They could jump a few spots if they need but I don't see the need to go that high to #4. There is no way that McShay's mock only has one OT going in the top 30. Don't even have to look it up to make that statement. Please post one legitimate mock that only has one OT going in the top 30 (you indicate that "some mocks" have this, implying more than one).
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Post by JoeyCush on Apr 20, 2020 9:25:42 GMT -5
Jets should have taken Mahomes in 2017 over a safety at 6.
QB/OT/Edge all day.
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Post by cocktailkerry on Apr 20, 2020 9:32:25 GMT -5
The Jets have been shopping Adams for some time. They also have some draft capital to use as ammo. Would you trade the #4 pick for Adams, #11, and #68 (LW) or #79? We have Solder and likely Tate coming off the books next year so paying him may not be an issue and this would really sweeten our defense for many years. I know we have a few contracts coming up, especially with LW, but we also have a few trade chips of our own in Engram, BJ Hill and Tomlinson. What say you? I would do this in a heartbeat. Trading back to 11 would still put the Giants in position to draft a top OT, would get them an impact defensive player at the same time, and they would pick up another asset to add depth and a potential starter in Round 3. Plus with the new CBA, the salary cap goes up, making more room to resign LW and/or Jamal Adams.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 20, 2020 9:39:54 GMT -5
The Jets don't need to trade up if they want to go OT. Some mocks like McShea only have one OT (Thomas) taken in the top 30. They could jump a few spots if they need but I don't see the need to go that high to #4. There is no way that McShay's mock only has one OT going in the top 30. Don't even have to look it up to make that statement. Please post one legitimate mock that only has one OT going in the top 30 (you indicate that "some mocks" have this, implying more than one). I haven't seen the latest he just posted, but his previous had only Thomas and Wirfs in the first round.
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 20, 2020 9:45:04 GMT -5
There is no way that McShay's mock only has one OT going in the top 30. Don't even have to look it up to make that statement. Please post one legitimate mock that only has one OT going in the top 30 (you indicate that "some mocks" have this, implying more than one). I haven't seen the latest he just posted, but his previous had only Thomas and Wirfs in the first round. Zero chance that's true
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Post by TEM on Apr 20, 2020 10:43:27 GMT -5
The Jets don't need to trade up if they want to go OT. Some mocks like McShea only have one OT (Thomas) taken in the top 30. They could jump a few spots if they need but I don't see the need to go that high to #4. There is no way that McShay's mock only has one OT going in the top 30. Don't even have to look it up to make that statement. Please post one legitimate mock that only has one OT going in the top 30 (you indicate that "some mocks" have this, implying more than one). As with you I can say with certainty that this has never happened in any of the first rounds ever.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 20, 2020 11:31:15 GMT -5
The Jets have been shopping Adams for some time. They also have some draft capital to use as ammo. Would you trade the #4 pick for Adams, #11, and #68 (LW) or #79? We have Solder and likely Tate coming off the books next year so paying him may not be an issue and this would really sweeten our defense for many years. I know we have a few contracts coming up, especially with LW, but we also have a few trade chips of our own in Engram, BJ Hill and Tomlinson. What say you? Were going to get all that for the #4 pick. Offer that to the Redskins and try and get Chase Young. Can see the Jets trading Adams, but getting a 1st and 2nd rd draft picks not losing them. They don't need to come up to #4 for a OT or a top WR.
But with that said..... Heck yea we make that trade. We still can get a OT and possibly an outside chance at Simmons at #11if he falls for some reason. Plus Jamal Adams and another top pick. Can you imagine Adams and Simmons in the same defense ? Bradberry, Peppers, Lawrence, and Williams as the co stars in this cast. Heck now I'm interested in Jadeveon Clowney. My hearts all a flutter.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 11:42:22 GMT -5
Would rather they not trade for anymore players who are on their rookie contract.. It's too important to use players on their rookie contracts for as long as possible while adding some vet FAs..
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 20, 2020 12:50:17 GMT -5
Would rather they not trade for anymore players who are on their rookie contract.. It's too important to use players on their rookie contracts for as long as possible while adding some vet FAs.. Especially guys on rookie deals with contacts coming up. Like I said this is the perfect move for a team on a win now window 49ers,ravens
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