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Post by Jomo on Apr 25, 2020 11:53:18 GMT -5
our WR situation is pretty dire.
One more year on Tate and Shepherd being on concussion away from retirement.
Slayton is the only standout we have imo.
Maybe there are FA that are better bets than what is left but it seems like the boys in the draft room are oblivious.
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Post by giants8493 on Apr 25, 2020 11:56:20 GMT -5
Between Slayton Shepard tate and Engram this is a good starting stable of weapons. The problem is at least two of them are serious injury risks. Corey Colman is coming back at least so that's something. I would still like to add one more WR at some point.
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 25, 2020 11:58:17 GMT -5
Between Slayton Shepard tate and Engram this is a good starting stable of weapons. The problem is at least two of them are serious injury risks. Corey Colman is coming back at least so that's something. I would still like to add one more WR at some point. Coleman is useless We.take one or 2 later |
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Post by mj312 on Apr 25, 2020 12:02:38 GMT -5
our WR situation is pretty dire. One more year on Tate and Shepherd being on concussion away from retirement. Slayton is the only standout we have imo. Maybe there are FA that are better bets than what is left but it seems like the boys in the draft room are oblivious. We also have one of the worst pass rushes in the league and they haven't even attempted to fix it . |
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Post by Merc on Apr 25, 2020 12:05:13 GMT -5
Although he wasn't used last season, we also have Reggie White on the roster.
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 25, 2020 12:08:09 GMT -5
It’s not about being “oblivious” ... it’s about the fact that we have tons of needs and not enough picks to fill them all
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Post by hadenough on Apr 25, 2020 12:10:17 GMT -5
It’s not about being “oblivious” ... it’s about the fact that we have tons of needs and not enough picks to fill them all Yeah...this is a two year process |
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 25, 2020 12:14:54 GMT -5
He comes from NE where they get the mailman or ex lacrosse players to be great WRs. I'm sure he is scouting our concession stands for the next great WR.
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Post by Jomo on Apr 25, 2020 12:16:59 GMT -5
It’s not about being “oblivious” ... it’s about the fact that we have tons of needs and not enough picks to fill them all Yes we are needy. Perhaps it is easier to back fill with a decent WR than it is to find a sticky slot corner guy?? Maybe I feel better now. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 25, 2020 12:21:53 GMT -5
It’s not about being “oblivious” ... it’s about the fact that we have tons of needs and not enough picks to fill them all Yes we are needy. Perhaps it is easier to back fill with a decent WR than it is to find a sticky slot corner guy?? Maybe I feel better now. Extremely deep class with a lot of guys that would have been 2nd and 3rd round guys left.. Lots of speed guys still...guys who's traits translate well to the modern style football |
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 25, 2020 12:22:44 GMT -5
We have enough holes to sink the titanic. All our needs will not be met in this draft.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 25, 2020 12:35:52 GMT -5
He comes from NE where they get the mailman or ex lacrosse players to be great WRs. I'm sure he is scouting our concession stands for the next great WR. Remember who’s coaching these so called lacrosse players and mailmen. Belichick gets every last drop out of every player. |
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Post by TEM on Apr 25, 2020 12:39:11 GMT -5
our WR situation is pretty dire. One more year on Tate and Shepherd being on concussion away from retirement. Slayton is the only standout we have imo. Maybe there are FA that are better bets than what is left but it seems like the boys in the draft room are oblivious. Since no one else is volunteering. I guess I make the call to tell him. |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 25, 2020 12:45:45 GMT -5
WR is the deepest position in the draft......there should still be some good talent.
I just noticed the Center from Wisconsin is still available.......I'd be stoked with that.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 25, 2020 12:46:11 GMT -5
He comes from NE where they get the mailman or ex lacrosse players to be great WRs. I'm sure he is scouting our concession stands for the next great WR. Remember who’s coaching these so called lacrosse players and mailmen. Belichick gets every last drop out of every player. No the WR coach was Joe Judge.....  |
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Post by McCherry on Apr 25, 2020 12:47:39 GMT -5
Our receivers are the strength of the team and nobody you're drafting at this point is cracking that lineup in 2020.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 25, 2020 12:48:07 GMT -5
Remember who’s coaching these so called lacrosse players and mailmen. Belichick gets every last drop out of every player. No the WR coach was Joe Judge..... Never heard of him.. |
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 25, 2020 12:51:44 GMT -5
Our receivers are the strength of the team and nobody you're drafting at this point is cracking that lineup in 2020. Shep has some serious concussion issues. Tate is 32 and seems to think fertility drugs are acceptable through the NFL guidelines, Slayton was great, but let’s see if he has a sophomore slump. I don’t think receivers are as strong as you perceive them to be. If everything goes to plan sure, but when does that ever happen? |
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Post by McCherry on Apr 25, 2020 12:53:50 GMT -5
Our receivers are the strength of the team and nobody you're drafting at this point is cracking that lineup in 2020. Shep has some serious concussion issues. Tate is 32 and seems to think fertility drugs are acceptable through the NFL guidelines, Slayton was great, but let’s see if he has a sophomore slump. I don’t think receivers are as strong as you perceive them to be. If everything goes to plan sure, but when does that ever happen? I get that, and our WR's will only be as good as their health. But it's going to be a development year for any WR we draft at this point. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 25, 2020 12:57:50 GMT -5
Our receivers are the strength of the team and nobody you're drafting at this point is cracking that lineup in 2020. No they are not They are decent if healthy..... Tate is fading,Shepard is a concussion away from retirement,Coleman is useless Its basically Slayton and ?? And we need guys to get down the field in this offense .. And there are guys most certainly available that can step in and be a major factor left..... This is why im not panicking yet..my guy Quez Watkins is still there KJ Hill set every record at Ohio State and still out there Proche Cephus. |
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 25, 2020 13:04:02 GMT -5
No the WR coach was Joe Judge..... Never heard of him.. You and me both. |
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Apr 25, 2020 13:05:23 GMT -5
i know we had some unfortunate wr injuries (odell curse) but i think he is going the PAts route in not needing too much at that position, jones is pretty accurate, so we have the luxury of not needing a star #1 WR now.
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Post by Martin on Apr 25, 2020 13:08:25 GMT -5
Our receivers are the strength of the team and nobody you're drafting at this point is cracking that lineup in 2020. No they are not They are decent if healthy..... Tate is fading,Shepard is a concussion away from retirement,Coleman is useless Its basically Slayton and ?? And we need guys to get down the field in this offense .. And there are guys most certainly available that can step in and be a major factor left..... This is why im not panicking yet..my guy Quez Watkins is still there KJ Hill set every record at Ohio State and still out there Proche Cephus. The Giants so far in the draft have created balance. (Oline / D secondary) Can't fault them for that but this next pick must be WR. Coleman is nothing to build on at all and yep Shepard and Tate if lucky play the entire season. Shepard is day to day IMO. Slayton has talent but they need to stretch the field and get a speedy WR. Here's hoping the next 2 picks are WR's!!  |
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Post by McCherry on Apr 25, 2020 13:12:24 GMT -5
Our receivers are the strength of the team and nobody you're drafting at this point is cracking that lineup in 2020. No they are not They are decent if healthy..... Tate is fading,Shepard is a concussion away from retirement,Coleman is useless Its basically Slayton and ?? And we need guys to get down the field in this offense .. And there are guys most certainly available that can step in and be a major factor left..... This is why im not panicking yet..my guy Quez Watkins is still there KJ Hill set every record at Ohio State and still out there Proche Cephus. Tate was our leading receiver and still producing at his career pace. Shepard is a productive slot WR when healthy. We need receivers for beyond 2020, but this season is only going to be as good as the players we have. This was the reality no matter who we drafted. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 25, 2020 13:13:58 GMT -5
i know we had some unfortunate wr injuries (odell curse) but i think he is going the PAts route in not needing too much at that position, jones is pretty accurate, so we have the luxury of not needing a start #1 WR now. That would be a terrible idea until we see how good Jones is..tbis only works with Brady in his prime .. Deep outside guys open up the underneath... Need another dynamic guy...luckily we have a bunch of guys left |
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Apr 25, 2020 13:19:20 GMT -5
i know we had some unfortunate wr injuries (odell curse) but i think he is going the PAts route in not needing too much at that position, jones is pretty accurate, so we have the luxury of not needing a start #1 WR now. That would be a terrible idea until we see how good Jones is..tbis only works with Brady in his prime .. Deep outside guys open up the underneath... Need another dynamic guy...luckily we have a bunch of guys left excuse me i meant star #1 wr . we saw jones pull off multiple 4 td games with a rookie wr and some nobody's . |
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Post by McCherry on Apr 25, 2020 13:19:58 GMT -5
i know we had some unfortunate wr injuries (odell curse) but i think he is going the PAts route in not needing too much at that position, jones is pretty accurate, so we have the luxury of not needing a start #1 WR now. That would be a terrible idea until we see how good Jones is.. tbis only works with Brady in his prime .. Deep outside guys open up the underneath... Need another dynamic guy...luckily we have a bunch of guys left Jones set rookie records with a different group of rag-tag backup receivers every week, he's the least of my worries. Hopefully we land a WR who can step in and play ST's and develop for the future. Slayton's rookie season was an anomaly, I'm not expecting anyone to repeat that. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 25, 2020 13:23:58 GMT -5
That would be a terrible idea until we see how good Jones is..tbis only works with Brady in his prime .. Deep outside guys open up the underneath... Need another dynamic guy...luckily we have a bunch of guys left excuse me i meant star #1 wr . we saw jones pull off multiple 4 td games with a rookie wr ans so nobody's . Slayton and another clone is good enough Teams are built on speed these days... Honestly I'd rather cycle a bunch of Slayton/tyreek hill types through and replace them without giving them 100 million contracts (what Dallas did was assenine...even if Lamb was BPA...you take the 2nd BPA in this case )..... Its what the Rams are doing it seems now...cycling really athletic route runners that have dynMic abilities and always bringing guys in ..trading Cooks.... If Jones is that type of QB we think that can be productive with kids early we can do this and keep cap money on the lines |
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Post by southerner on Apr 25, 2020 13:27:45 GMT -5
our WR situation is pretty dire. One more year on Tate and Shepherd being on concussion away from retirement. Slayton is the only standout we have imo. Maybe there are FA that are better bets than what is left but it seems like the boys in the draft room are oblivious. WRs are a dime-a-dozen and the Giants can bring 5 or 6 new ones to camp via the draft or undrafted FAs. From that you can get 2 or 3 that will stick.....you either pick them very high for the studs, or not at all. Just look how many high draft choice WRs bust. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Apr 25, 2020 13:33:48 GMT -5
It’s not about being “oblivious” ... it’s about the fact that we have tons of needs and not enough picks to fill them all Yeah...this is a two year process This is year 3. Years 1 and 2 just failed. |
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