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Post by JoeyCush on May 14, 2020 20:27:42 GMT -5
To think, we thought Janoris calling someone the R word and not apologizing was bad. And he was cut for that!
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Post by GameTime on May 14, 2020 20:28:58 GMT -5
guess they established that in the pre draft meeting etc. you'll never be right that DG or anyone in the NYGs scouting dept thought this kid should not have been drafted. Well since they drafted him, it’s going to be impossible to prove that they thought he shouldn’t be drafted. point is its has been discussed that DG knew this kid was going to commit armed robbery and fall asleep in meetings. its all crystal ball BS
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Post by TCHOF on May 14, 2020 20:30:58 GMT -5
And Prince before those guys! Why can’t the Giants get CB right? Baker had a chance he showed some good stuff last 5 or 6 games. With this if the Giants want to be a good team they have to let this play out in court of law but if he is found guilty he needs to be gone quick. Gettlemen is not one to play around with this kind of stuff so he might not make it to court. No chance that he plays with the team with armed robbery charges pending against him. Not even sure that he will get bail
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 14, 2020 20:31:52 GMT -5
Baker had a chance he showed some good stuff last 5 or 6 games. With this if the Giants want to be a good team they have to let this play out in court of law but if he is found guilty he needs to be gone quick. Gettlemen is not one to play around with this kind of stuff so he might not make it to court. It wouldn’t get that far. If he’s arrested, he’s gone. What employer in their right mind would wait for a verdict? You think the Giants want to answer questions about Bakers legal trouble right now? Instead of talking about hope and the outlook of a season. The Giants have to deal with this nonsense. I think the union will have something to say about it an arrest does not prove guilt. Personally I would prefer for them to part ways I think you have 2 no nonsense guys running this team now and a glut of CBs see ya.
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Post by TCHOF on May 14, 2020 20:32:41 GMT -5
Well since they drafted him, it’s going to be impossible to prove that they thought he shouldn’t be drafted. point is its has been discussed that DG knew this kid was going to commit armed robbery and fall asleep in meetings. its all crystal ball BS Kid was a terrible pick before any of this happened
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 14, 2020 20:32:52 GMT -5
To think, we thought Janoris calling someone the R word and not apologizing was bad. And he was cut for that! If there was a crystal ball for real Jenkens would be here.
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 14, 2020 20:33:07 GMT -5
Sure, take a great RB in the 2nd round if your team is awful. Not pick #2 overall with a heavily desired QB sitting there giving you leverage to trade back. This probably should be in another thread, let’s revisit this again after Saquon is the NFL’s leading rusher As long as we are winning more than 6 games...
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Post by SG88 on May 14, 2020 20:34:05 GMT -5
Of course the internet has rushed to judgment before knowing any of the facts. Guilty until proven innocent I guess.....
The facts are however that there was a warrant issued for his arrest, and the Giants have acknowledged their awareness and that they have spoken to him.
Sure sounds like he screwed up big-time.
Those are pretty much the only things that we know for sure happened so far. I just don't like the assumption of guilt by our fans, especially the assumption of guilt because they don't think that he is any good.
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Post by Bigjeep on May 14, 2020 20:37:10 GMT -5
Even OBJ never sunk to that level!
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 14, 2020 20:37:37 GMT -5
point is its has been discussed that DG knew this kid was going to commit armed robbery and fall asleep in meetings. its all crystal ball BS Kid was a terrible pick before any of this happened How was he terrible he was considered the best corner by some in that draft and shut the sec down yes he had a rough time being on his own probably for the first time with out a schedule rolled out for him.
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Post by SG88 on May 14, 2020 20:39:42 GMT -5
Baker had a chance he showed some good stuff last 5 or 6 games. With this if the Giants want to be a good team they have to let this play out in court of law but if he is found guilty he needs to be gone quick. Gettlemen is not one to play around with this kind of stuff so he might not make it to court. No chance that he plays with the team with armed robbery charges pending against him. Not even sure that he will get bail Yeah, I don't think that he sees the field until the situation is resolved, either way.
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Post by TCHOF on May 14, 2020 20:39:53 GMT -5
Kid was a terrible pick before any of this happened How was he terrible he was considered the best corner by some in that draft and shut the sec down yes he had a rough time being on his own probably for the first time with out a schedule rolled out for him. He was picked in the first round and embarrassed himself and the team both on and off the field. Terrible pick. The excuse is his mommy wasn’t there to make his schedule for him? Cmon bro
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Post by Kruunch on May 14, 2020 20:39:55 GMT -5
It wouldn’t get that far. If he’s arrested, he’s gone. What employer in their right mind would wait for a verdict? You think the Giants want to answer questions about Bakers legal trouble right now? Instead of talking about hope and the outlook of a season. The Giants have to deal with this nonsense. I think the union will have something to say about it an arrest does not prove guilt. Personally I would prefer for them to part ways I think you have 2 no nonsense guys running this team now and a glut of CBs see ya. It’s a legal matter. The union can’t say shit. Also, the team that employs the player can do whatever they want. We live in a time where it’s 24/7 media. Especially now since we have no sports to distract this story. Baker is behind the 8th ball right now. His reputation has been questioned already so benefit of doubt is gone. When you read the story and see “multiple witnesses” Thats not a good thing. These charges are very serious and come with lengthy jail time. The Giants as we speak are going over their options of what to do with this. At some point a statement needs to be made. And then you have to come up with a game plan what to do if he’s arrested or not.
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Post by lexington11 on May 14, 2020 20:42:44 GMT -5
So nice to know that DG is geared into changing the culture on this team because you know we had to get rid of ODB and JPP because of how terrible they are. just an ignorant comment. Baker as far as I know had no serious issues in college. Gettleman is not a mind reader.
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Post by TCHOF on May 14, 2020 20:43:44 GMT -5
I think the union will have something to say about it an arrest does not prove guilt. Personally I would prefer for them to part ways I think you have 2 no nonsense guys running this team now and a glut of CBs see ya. It’s a legal matter. The union can’t say shit. Also, the team that employs the player can do whatever they want. We live in a time where it’s 24/7 media. Especially now since we have no sports to distract this story. Baker is behind the 8th ball right now. His reputation has been questioned already so benefit of doubt is gone. When you read the story and see “multiple witnesses” Thats not a good thing. These charges are very serious and come with lengthy jail time. The Giants as we speak our going over their options of what to do with this. At some point a statement needs to be made. And then you have to come up with a game plan what to do if he’s arrested or not. How about getting himself to turn himself in first? They admit that they have been in contact with him ....
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 14, 2020 20:44:29 GMT -5
Baker had a chance he showed some good stuff last 5 or 6 games. With this if the Giants want to be a good team they have to let this play out in court of law but if he is found guilty he needs to be gone quick. Gettlemen is not one to play around with this kind of stuff so he might not make it to court. No chance that he plays with the team with armed robbery charges pending against him. Not even sure that he will get bail They can suspend him but there is a players union arrested is not guilty. Don't know if they can do anything more then suspend him without pay till they find out whats going on with this thing. They have to see if this is one of those things where he is innocent and nothing comes of it. If he is arrested and along court case starts up he's gone.
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Post by TCHOF on May 14, 2020 20:45:02 GMT -5
So nice to know that DG is geared into changing the culture on this team because you know we had to get rid of ODB and JPP because of how terrible they are. just an ignorant comment. Baker as far as I know had no serious issues in college. Gettleman is not a mind reader. So he takes no hit for drafting a guy in the first round who sucked on and off the field?
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Post by giantsrock on May 14, 2020 20:45:27 GMT -5
I heard it wasn't Bakers fault. The host of the party just didn't put him in the right situation to succeed.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 14, 2020 20:47:02 GMT -5
Hey negatore eat a snickers are something. You go eat a snickers because DG isn’t getting a pass for these two. LOL for what 2 what the hell are you talking about. Never mind that will lead to more rambling BS.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 14, 2020 20:48:38 GMT -5
get off it man. OBJ is gone because he didn't want to be here he went on TV and said in an unauthorized interview and JPP was let go just like OBJ because they got a lot back for both JPP has been off the field more then on and is OLD. JPP has 20 sacks and 5 forced fumbles since he’s been gone. LOL I could care less he did that here to and we won as much as Tampa go root for him and Tampa.
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Post by giantlegacy on May 14, 2020 20:49:23 GMT -5
You go eat a snickers because DG isn’t getting a pass for these two. LOL for what 2 what the hell are you talking about. Never mind that will lead to more rambling BS. Ignore this negatard He only comes out to gloat when something bad happens to push his moron narrative Been doing this since the ESPN forums and all ..what...7 of his previous banned profiles (and his other current sock puppet account)
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Post by Roosevelt on May 14, 2020 20:49:56 GMT -5
The facts are however that there was a warrant issued for his arrest, and the Giants have acknowledged their awareness and that they have spoken to him.
Sure sounds like he screwed up big-time.
Those are pretty much the only things that we know for sure happened so far. I just don't like the assumption of guilt by our fans, especially the assumption of guilt because they don't think that he is any good.
Fans are down on him for his play, his lack of hustle vs the Jets, and then learning he slept during meetings.
Frankly speaking, him sleeping is on every one in the room and no one more so than the coach. How could anyone worth his salt allow a rookie to sleep during a meeting? Especially one who was playing so poorly.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 14, 2020 20:51:11 GMT -5
I think the union will have something to say about it an arrest does not prove guilt. Personally I would prefer for them to part ways I think you have 2 no nonsense guys running this team now and a glut of CBs see ya. It’s a legal matter. The union can’t say shit. Also, the team that employs the player can do whatever they want. We live in a time where it’s 24/7 media. Especially now since we have no sports to distract this story. Baker is behind the 8th ball right now. His reputation has been questioned already so benefit of doubt is gone. When you read the story and see “multiple witnesses” Thats not a good thing. These charges are very serious and come with lengthy jail time. The Giants as we speak are going over their options of what to do with this. At some point a statement needs to be made. And then you have to come up with a game plan what to do if he’s arrested or not. The question is do they suspend him with out pay if he is found guilty they will be free of his whole contract if they cut him now think they gotta pay him.
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Post by giantlegacy on May 14, 2020 20:51:28 GMT -5
Those are pretty much the only things that we know for sure happened so far. I just don't like the assumption of guilt by our fans, especially the assumption of guilt because they don't think that he is any good.
Fans are down on him for his play, his lack of hustle vs the Jets, and then learning he slept during meetings.
Frankly speaking, him sleeping is on every one in the room and no one more so than the coach. How could anyone worth his salt allow a rookie to sleep during a meeting? Especially one who was playing so poorly. Thats more a reflection from the staff and players last year Where was our "alleged "leader of our secondary Jenkins when this was happening No accountability from anyone on that side of the ball up to Betcher
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Post by Kruunch on May 14, 2020 20:52:20 GMT -5
A part of me wants to go to hmmm thread and eradicate some posters.. What to do.. What to do..
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Post by giantlegacy on May 14, 2020 20:52:29 GMT -5
It’s a legal matter. The union can’t say shit. Also, the team that employs the player can do whatever they want. We live in a time where it’s 24/7 media. Especially now since we have no sports to distract this story. Baker is behind the 8th ball right now. His reputation has been questioned already so benefit of doubt is gone. When you read the story and see “multiple witnesses” Thats not a good thing. These charges are very serious and come with lengthy jail time. The Giants as we speak are going over their options of what to do with this. At some point a statement needs to be made. And then you have to come up with a game plan what to do if he’s arrested or not. The question is do they suspend him with out pay if he is found guilty they will be free of his whole contract if they cut him now think they gotta pay him. Probably an indefinite suspension for detrimental conduct or whatever that wording is.
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Post by Roosevelt on May 14, 2020 20:53:55 GMT -5
just an ignorant comment. Baker as far as I know had no serious issues in college. Gettleman is not a mind reader. So he takes no hit for drafting a guy in the first round who sucked on and off the field?
Dave's got to take the hit on this which is not to say that this isn't coming out of left field.
Something doesn't sound right. Did the scouts miss something on this kid?
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Post by TCHOF on May 14, 2020 20:56:21 GMT -5
Per Dan Duggan
@dduggan21
DeAndre Baker didn't participate in the Giants' virtual meeting today or any of the other meetings during the team's voluntary minicamp this week, per source
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Post by Roosevelt on May 14, 2020 20:59:52 GMT -5
Walter football:
In speaking to team sources, they feel that Baker's tape and talent level should have him going in the No. 10-15 range of the first round, but they believe he will slide some because he has off-the-field issues and has not interviewed well with teams during the leadup to the 2019 NFL Draft.
Bleacher Report:
He's a potential rookie starter if teams are able to vet his character and dial in on who he is as a player and person.
His draft stock has reportedly been falling after "bad interviews" were reported by Yahoo Sports' Charles Robinson.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 14, 2020 20:59:55 GMT -5
How was he terrible he was considered the best corner by some in that draft and shut the sec down yes he had a rough time being on his own probably for the first time with out a schedule rolled out for him. He was picked in the first round and embarrassed himself and the team both on and off the field. Terrible pick. The excuse is his mommy wasn’t there to make his schedule for him? Cmon bro A lot of players with talent first rounders have issues the first year learning to be pro's sometimes just fitting in. When he was drafted he was considered a top corner in that draft and at the end of last year he started to come around and show some of that promise. It's not about his family it is about the structure a college athlete has in place there is no study groups in the NFL you have to do that on your own most of the time. Learn the play book and be self motivated obviously he had issue with the freedom he had and didn't get it done till he was called out. Now he might be going to prison for a long while.
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