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Post by Sarcasman on May 21, 2020 13:50:34 GMT -5
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Post by snyder55 on May 21, 2020 15:47:43 GMT -5
i just read the article and came away thinking that this world is getting dumber, not smarter...
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Post by TEM on May 21, 2020 17:39:45 GMT -5
They are paying him 32 for each of the first 4 years and 45 for the fifth . Unbelievable
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Post by Kruunch on May 21, 2020 18:23:58 GMT -5
Talk about hitting the lotto. Dak is a good player, but this is a crazy amount of money. Might as well give him keys to Jerry Jones mansion while they’re at it. Before the ink dries, Mahomes will contact his agent asking to get North of Prescott’s contract. Players like Joe Montana and Dan Marino must be pissed they were born far too early. Their contracts at the time couldn’t pay for Aaron Rodgers dry cleaning bill.
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Post by DandyDon on May 21, 2020 19:08:38 GMT -5
Talk about hitting the lotto. Dak is a good player, but this is a crazy amount of money. Might as well give him keys to Jerry Jones mansion while they’re at it. Before the ink dries, Mahomes will contact his agent asking to get North of Prescott’s contract. Players like Joe Montana and Dan Marino must be pissed they were born far too early. Their contracts at the time couldn’t pay for Aaron Rodgers dry cleaning bill. Crazy.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on May 21, 2020 20:44:18 GMT -5
KC and Baltimore are shaking in their boots as they have to write contracts for their QB's in a year or 2. And Dak wants that 5th year north of 45 mil. The length of the contract apparently is the issue. Dak doesn't want to sign more than 4 years.
175 mil is not enough. I don't know how much the cap is going up but it seems it's really going to be hard for teams to build a roster with any top QB getting paid like this.
AH the cost of business has just really gone up.
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Post by Roosevelt on May 21, 2020 22:15:43 GMT -5
They are paying him 32 for each of the first 4 years and 45 for the fifth . Unbelievable
Dak should hold out for 45 now. He's well worth it.
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Post by TEM on May 22, 2020 7:19:09 GMT -5
KC and Baltimore are shaking in their boots as they have to write contracts for their QB's in a year or 2. And Dak wants that 5th year north of 45 mil. The length of the contract apparently is the issue. Dak doesn't want to sign more than 4 years. 175 mil is not enough. I don't know how much the cap is going up but it seems it's really going to be hard for teams to build a roster with any top QB getting paid like this. AH the cost of business has just really gone up. I do not know about that . IMO: If the NFL plays in half empty to empty stadiums. Next years cap will collapse. I am surprised under the circumstances Dak's contract wasn't shelved until it was reveled how the stage for this season would be set.
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Post by Roosevelt on May 22, 2020 8:22:19 GMT -5
KC and Baltimore are shaking in their boots as they have to write contracts for their QB's in a year or 2. And Dak wants that 5th year north of 45 mil. The length of the contract apparently is the issue. Dak doesn't want to sign more than 4 years. 175 mil is not enough. I don't know how much the cap is going up but it seems it's really going to be hard for teams to build a roster with any top QB getting paid like this. AH the cost of business has just really gone up. I do not know about that . IMO: If the NFL plays in half empty to empty stadiums. Next years cap will collapse. I am suppressed under the circumstances Dak's contract wasn't shelved until it was reveled how the stage for this season would be set. Any player holding out for a big payday right now is a fool. Dad should take the guaranteed money and run before it’s gone.
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Post by TEM on May 22, 2020 8:45:44 GMT -5
I do not know about that . IMO: If the NFL plays in half empty to empty stadiums. Next years cap will collapse. I am surprised under the circumstances Dak's contract wasn't shelved until it was reveled how the stage for this season would be set. Any player holding out for a big payday right now is a fool. Dad should take the guaranteed money and run before it’s gone. I thought Jerry Jones would have take that into consideration before offering that contract.
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Post by GameTime on May 22, 2020 8:58:25 GMT -5
what's their choice?
Keep the tag He hold's out Pay him the money good QBs get because they are QBs in the NFL.
The Player's Union wants these guys to up the ante with every contract.
Who cares what Mahomes will want or Jackson (if he maintains his level of play). Those salaries will be through the roof no matter what Dak gets.
Dan Jones will be getting 40 mil per year if he progresses to be a bonafide franchise QB
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Post by Roosevelt on May 22, 2020 9:12:59 GMT -5
Any player holding out for a big payday right now is a fool. Dad should take the guaranteed money and run before it’s gone. I thought Jerry Jones would have take that into consideration before offering that contract. I guess the tag won’t go lower because that’s based on the top QBs, but the salary cap certainly will. Perhaps Dak believes he’s got the Cowboys where he wants them? He just better not get hurt.
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Post by Roosevelt on May 22, 2020 9:18:06 GMT -5
what's their choice? Keep the tag He hold's out Pay him the money good QBs get because they are QBs in the NFL. The Player's Union wants these guys to up the ante with every contract. Who cares what Mahomes will want or Jackson (if he maintains his level of play). Those salaries will be through the roof no matter what Dak gets. Dan Jones will be getting 40 mil per year if he progresses to be a bonafide franchise QB I don’t know anyone who thinks Dak is a top QB. Where would you rank him? Is he a top 15 QB?
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Post by GameTime on May 22, 2020 9:23:12 GMT -5
what's their choice? Keep the tag He hold's out Pay him the money good QBs get because they are QBs in the NFL. The Player's Union wants these guys to up the ante with every contract. Who cares what Mahomes will want or Jackson (if he maintains his level of play). Those salaries will be through the roof no matter what Dak gets. Dan Jones will be getting 40 mil per year if he progresses to be a bonafide franchise QB I don’t know anyone who thinks Dak is a top QB. Where would you rank him? Is he a top 15 QB? Stats wise I guess you can compare that. I like his game and he wins. From where he was drafted, forced into starting before his "time", on a team that biggest issue is the owner/GM. IMO, without dissecting stats, I put him in the top 10 or 12 category based on the team's win/loss. Would they do just as well with Dalton as the QB? Maybe? Maybe not? Is Dallas willing to take that chance?
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Post by jimmieray on May 22, 2020 9:27:21 GMT -5
what's their choice? Keep the tag He hold's out Pay him the money good QBs get because they are QBs in the NFL. The Player's Union wants these guys to up the ante with every contract. Who cares what Mahomes will want or Jackson (if he maintains his level of play). Those salaries will be through the roof no matter what Dak gets. Dan Jones will be getting 40 mil per year if he progresses to be a bonafide franchise QB I don’t know anyone who thinks Dak is a top QB. Where would you rank him? Is he a top 15 QB? I think right now, because the majority of QBs seem either very young or very near retirement, he is.
Doesn't make a high number of mistakes, but doesn't elevate the team or have much ability to make something out of nothing, says average...
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Post by DandyDon on May 22, 2020 9:27:31 GMT -5
I thought Jerry Jones would have take that into consideration before offering that contract. I guess the tag won’t go lower because that’s based on the top QBs, but the salary cap certainly will. Perhaps Dak believes he’s got the Cowboys where he wants them? He just better not get hurt. I really don't think they can lower the cap significantly. Are they going to somehow renogiate existing player contracts? Or decimate teams rosters?
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Post by ThatGuyRich on May 22, 2020 9:45:25 GMT -5
KC and Baltimore are shaking in their boots as they have to write contracts for their QB's in a year or 2. And Dak wants that 5th year north of 45 mil. The length of the contract apparently is the issue. Dak doesn't want to sign more than 4 years. 175 mil is not enough. I don't know how much the cap is going up but it seems it's really going to be hard for teams to build a roster with any top QB getting paid like this. AH the cost of business has just really gone up. I do not know about that . IMO: If the NFL plays in half empty to empty stadiums. Next years cap will collapse. I am surprised under the circumstances Dak's contract wasn't shelved until it was reveled how the stage for this season would be set. Your right. Next years cap was suppose to be a big jump from what I heard. But now who knows whats happening. What if the teams want to pay a pro rated portion of salaries depending on their income this year ? Don't know if that's possible. You would think people would work with one another to make things work. But that's a bit naive on my part.
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Post by jimmieray on May 22, 2020 10:47:28 GMT -5
I do not know about that . IMO: If the NFL plays in half empty to empty stadiums. Next years cap will collapse. I am surprised under the circumstances Dak's contract wasn't shelved until it was reveled how the stage for this season would be set. Your right. Next years cap was suppose to be a big jump from what I heard. But now who knows whats happening. What if the teams want to pay a pro rated portion of salaries depending on their income this year ? Don't know if that's possible. You would think people would work with one another to make things work. But that's a bit naive on my part. With how high the unemployment rate will likely stay, and many people taking lower paying jobs, these players will be under more derision than when the kneeling controversy was going on.
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Post by Roosevelt on May 22, 2020 11:26:09 GMT -5
I guess the tag won’t go lower because that’s based on the top QBs, but the salary cap certainly will. Perhaps Dak believes he’s got the Cowboys where he wants them? He just better not get hurt. I really don't think they can lower the cap significantly. Are they going to somehow renogiate existing player contracts? Or decimate teams rosters?
There's no denying that the NFL's revenue is about to take a hit and the salary cap is directly tied to it.
Both sides should live up to the the CBA as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Waybackfan on May 22, 2020 11:32:36 GMT -5
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Post by DandyDon on May 22, 2020 11:50:39 GMT -5
I really don't think they can lower the cap significantly. Are they going to somehow renogiate existing player contracts? Or decimate teams rosters?
There's no denying that the NFL's revenue is about to take a hit and the salary cap is directly tied to it.
Both sides should live up to the the CBA as far as I'm concerned.
I get that. But I don't think the cap has ever gone down. So not sure there is anything in the cba to deal with it. If the revenue is down 40%, do players have to take salary cuts? If not, will teams have to totally redo rosters to get under it?
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Post by giantlegacy on May 22, 2020 13:15:28 GMT -5
I don’t know anyone who thinks Dak is a top QB. Where would you rank him? Is he a top 15 QB? I think right now, because the majority of QBs seem either very young or very near retirement, he is.
Doesn't make a high number of mistakes, but doesn't elevate the team or have much ability to make something out of nothing, says average...
He isn't someone I see that will elevate a team higher than the talent level around him ...but at the same time he won't hold a team back and cost teams wins So basicly he is a 10-15 ranked qb that will put up good stats every year for a while and be on teams that are perennially 8-8 to 11-5 and not get past round 2 of the playoffs... He would need a top talented team to ever be part of a Lombardi,mainly a team with a historically good defense.... With him occupying such a major chunk of cap space and Jerruh making dumbass signings (Cooper getting 20 a year on top of this.....that's 55 million a year for 2 players when he could have let Cooper walk and draft Lamb).. Let it happen....
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Post by Roosevelt on May 22, 2020 19:49:51 GMT -5
There's no denying that the NFL's revenue is about to take a hit and the salary cap is directly tied to it.
Both sides should live up to the the CBA as far as I'm concerned.
I get that. But I don't think the cap has ever gone down. So not sure there is anything in the cba to deal with it. If the revenue is down 40%, do players have to take salary cuts? If not, will teams have to totally redo rosters to get under it? The cap did go down after the cap-less year which I think that was in 2010 after the owners reduced the player's cut of the revenue.
My guess is the NFL will offer some sort of exemption, but who knows the pandemic's full affect on revenue? Bottom line is they are both made an agreement how to share it.
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Post by DandyDon on May 22, 2020 20:06:16 GMT -5
I get that. But I don't think the cap has ever gone down. So not sure there is anything in the cba to deal with it. If the revenue is down 40%, do players have to take salary cuts? If not, will teams have to totally redo rosters to get under it? The cap did go down after the cap-less year which I think that was in 2010 after the owners reduced the player's cut of the revenue.
My guess is the NFL will offer some sort of exemption, but who knows the pandemic's full affect on revenue? Bottom line is they are both made an agreement how to share it.
If it gets into the courts, it will probably be argued as a force majeure case. Good thing for the players they have a pretty strong union. Probably better they all make a deal. Should be interesting to see how that works out
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Post by Roosevelt on May 22, 2020 20:30:38 GMT -5
The cap did go down after the cap-less year which I think that was in 2010 after the owners reduced the player's cut of the revenue.
My guess is the NFL will offer some sort of exemption, but who knows the pandemic's full affect on revenue? Bottom line is they are both made an agreement how to share it.
If it gets into the courts, it will probably be argued as a force majeure case. Good thing for the players they have a pretty strong union. Probably better they all make a deal. Should be interesting to see how that works out
For sure.
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on May 23, 2020 13:34:49 GMT -5
Ian Rapoport @rapsheet · May 21 According to the team side and Dak Prescott’s agent, the report (👇🏽) from @csimmsqb is definitely not true. The two sides have never discussed such scenarios or anything like it. Dak wants a shorter deal, the #Cowboys want a longer one. July 15 is the deadline. Quote Tweet Fake news schoolgirls ! www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/dak-prescott-contract-talk-cowboys-offer-reactions/5bexkg10fkqj1psx9t74y1t6kAgent: www.essentiallysports.com/nfl-news-definitely-not-true-agent-comments-on-dak-prescott-turning-down-reported-175-deal-by-dallas-cowboys/Sims is a dweeb : sports.yahoo.com/cowboys-deny-report-that-qb-dak-prescott-wanted-a-5-year-175-million-contract-185858328.htmlMore: You can argue Dak's efficacy as an NFL QB all you want but look at his QBR's, W/L record, Turnovers, and all this with an uber predictable Jason Garrett offense. Yeah, the Cowboys had a shitty weak playoff record but again ... look at the rigid, make no adjustments, predictable HC not to mention ol Cover 3 and I'll bend but not break while I rush you with my 260 pound DL Rod Marinelli. Yeah, the problem is the GM who, if you notice, is getting A LOT LESS face time lately and it's about time. Things are changing in the organization. Now, on the $175M/5 years .... that works out to $35M/ year. I think too much but it's my team and they just dug themselves out of cap hell. Generally though they've been structuring these large contracts with an out after 2-3 years (Zeke, Lawrence, Cooper).
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on May 23, 2020 13:38:07 GMT -5
Sorry, couldn't get the Ian Rappaport tweet to copy
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Post by Blue Hulk on May 23, 2020 20:54:55 GMT -5
Pretty soon I'm just going to watch amateur sports. If the XFL was on, I wouldn't even care
There needs to be a cap on how much QB's get because teams will not be able to field competitive teams.
Jerry should just wait it out...nobody is giving Dak that kind of money for one playoff win on a loaded team.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 6:17:24 GMT -5
They were going to make him the highest paid QB in the NFL which he doesn’t even rate and he was like “That’s going to be a No for me Dawg”. What a greedy SOB
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Post by GameTime on May 24, 2020 7:59:17 GMT -5
They were going to make him the highest paid QB in the NFL which he doesn’t even rate and he was like “That’s going to be a No for me Dawg”. What a greedy SOB where in the article did it say he turned down that offer? Also Chris Simms is usually hammered on these boards for being a dope. Now his stuff is truth...just sayin'....lol
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