|
Post by ThatGuyRich on Jun 2, 2020 18:37:23 GMT -5
As I stroll thru the websites I come across 247 Sports and they have just for fun the 2021 draft and there was some semblance of a full 2020 season. In this mock there's no trades. So who do you think they have as the worse team in 2020 ?
And with the first pick in the NFL 2021 draft the NY Giants take Penei Sewell OT from Oregon. The Jags pick Trevor Lawrence QB Clemson with the #2 pick.
Add another group of so called experts picking us once again as the worse team in the NFL.
There is thinking in my family members as lifetime Giant fans that if this comes to fruition that we draft Lawrence and trade Jones for what we could get. Also of course we trade the #1 pick for a ransom of picks and profit that way. It's just BS of course but it beats watching protests and riots having your heart torn apart all night.
|
|
|
Post by Kruunch on Jun 2, 2020 19:12:30 GMT -5
Come on Rich, post your threads in Giants talk. When you post elsewhere it disappears like a fart in the wind. Not your fault of course, you’re posting in the correct topic threads. But if you ask me, the hell with that. Post in Giants talk and let the mods figure it out. Give them a little work to do..
Now, if the Giants draft 1st overall tells me a few things. First, the season was a nightmare. Not only did we lose, but we lost more than the other 31 teams. Second, it shows that we’re in far worse shape than we thought. You think 3-13, 4-12 and 5-11 are bad? We would have to win 2 games to secure that 1st overall spot. If that doesn’t make you puke nothing will.
As for Trevor Lawrence, I think we’re for better or worse married to Daniel Jones. Meaning, the Giants will give Jones every opportunity to showcase if he’s our next franchise QB. And so far he’s headed in that direction. 2021 seems so far away, right now let’s hope for a full season where we can see for ourselves and not some wannabe experts magic 8 ball predictions.
|
|
|
Post by ThatGuyRich on Jun 2, 2020 21:08:18 GMT -5
Come on Rich, post your threads in Giants talk. When you post elsewhere it disappears like a fart in the wind. Not your fault of course, you’re posting in the correct topic threads. But if you ask me, the hell with that. Post in Giants talk and let the mods figure it out. Give them a little work to do.. Now, if the Giants draft 1st overall tells me a few things. For at, the season was a nightmare. Not only did we lose, but we lost more than the other 31 teams. Second, it shows that we’re in far worse shape than we thought. You think 3-13, 4-12 and 5-11 are bad? We would have to win 2 games to secure that 1st overall spot. If that doesn’t make you puke nothing will. As for Trevor Lawrence, I think we’re for better or worse married to Daniel Jones. Meaning, the Giants will give Jones every opportunity to showcase if he’s our next franchise QB. And so far he’s headed in that direction. 2021 seems so far away, right now let’s hope for a full season where we can see for ourselves and not some wannabe experts magic 8 ball predictions. HaHa I love it. So just post knowingly in the wrong spot and then just say I'm sorry. Got it.
The old saying " It's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission ".
|
|
|
Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 3, 2020 6:10:00 GMT -5
IF we are picking #1, we definitely take Lawrence and hit reset on everything not named Judge.
|
|
|
Post by snyder55 on Jun 3, 2020 15:32:15 GMT -5
IF we are picking #1, we definitely take Lawrence and hit reset on everything not named Judge. I have no clear set opinion on Jones yet so if we do get into a position to take Lawrence it wouldn't really set us back in our progression because we aren't that far into Jones at this point, we'll just have to wait and see what Jones looks like in this coming season...
|
|
|
Post by giantlegacy on Jun 3, 2020 19:40:00 GMT -5
we are passing on 1.trading out of 1 ? 2.Passing on Greg Rousseau after spending a 1st and a 3rd on OTs for another OT?
Drugs are baaaaaaad......m...mkaaaay
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 6:44:10 GMT -5
There is no way we will not take Trevor Lawrence if we end up with the first pick.....
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 6:51:46 GMT -5
BTW, Penei Sewell is a generational tackle as good as any ever entering the league (think Quenton Nelson but at the LT spot) ....if he is there and we are picking 2-4, he will be in play, despite us taking 2 last year, with one in the 3rd/4th round area ...as a project.
|
|
|
Post by jb456 on Jun 26, 2020 11:33:00 GMT -5
There is no way we will not take Trevor Lawrence if we end up with the first pick..... At first, I was going to say hell no but after thinking about it for a minute, that makes sense. If the Giants are picking #1, that means either A, Daniel Jones had a serious sophomore slump / didn't progress or or got injured again for a significant portion of the season.
|
|
|
Post by McCherry on Jun 26, 2020 12:04:22 GMT -5
If the Giants finish last in the league, the first thing they'll be doing is be looking for a new GM and HC. And unless Jones was hurt for most of the season, a new QB too.
|
|
|
Post by giantlegacy on Jun 26, 2020 13:26:23 GMT -5
BTW, Penei Sewell is a generational tackle as good as any ever entering the league (think Quenton Nelson but at the LT spot) ....if he is there and we are picking 2-4, he will be in play, despite us taking 2 last year, with one in the 3rd/4th round area ...as a project. Any DTs ?
|
|
|
Post by giantlegacy on Jun 26, 2020 13:28:02 GMT -5
The first 4 picks as of now will be Lawrence then in order of need Sewell Rousseau Fields
I have a really tough time thinking even if worse case scenario we sniff any of these guys
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 14:19:05 GMT -5
The first 4 picks as of now will be Lawrence then in order of need Sewell Rousseau Fields I have a really tough time thinking even if worse case scenario we sniff any of these guys I'm hoping we will be in take the best center spot...sniffing the playoffs.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 14:23:43 GMT -5
There is no way we will not take Trevor Lawrence if we end up with the first pick..... At first, I was going to say hell no but after thinking about it for a minute, that makes sense. If the Giants are picking #1, that means either A, Daniel Jones had a serious sophomore slump / didn't progress or or got injured again for a significant portion of the season. A poor season of DJ....plus a new GM...who would be forever linked with passing on a generational QB talent. We pick first, a new GM is taking Lawrence. If we do well offensively as I expect, Jones is the franchise, and we should be looking for a center/WR/baby Gronk.... and spend some cash for pass rush help.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 14:30:28 GMT -5
At first, I was going to say hell no but after thinking about it for a minute, that makes sense. If the Giants are picking #1, that means either A, Daniel Jones had a serious sophomore slump / didn't progress or or got injured again for a significant portion of the season. A poor season of DJ....plus a new GM...who would be forever linked with passing on a generational QB talent. We pick first, a new GM is taking Lawrence. If we do well offensively as I expect, Jones is the franchise, and we should be looking for a center/WR/baby Gronk.... and spend some cash for pass rush help. I would rather they draft the pass rusher and spend on the center so there is experience there..
|
|
|
Post by Jomo on Jun 26, 2020 14:31:02 GMT -5
We trade the #1 to someone desperate for Lawrence and fill out the rest of our needy roster with the bushel full of picks we receive.
The good news is (hopefully) we get another year to look at Jones and reserve the right to take Lawrence if the unthinkable happens.
BTW, I don't even like thinking about this stuff starting with us having the #1 overall pick next year.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 14:32:46 GMT -5
We trade the #1 to someone desperate for Lawrence and fill out the rest of our needy roster with the bushel full of picks we receive. The good news is (hopefully) we get another year to look at Jones and reserve the right to take Lawrence if the unthinkable happens. BTW, I don't even like thinking about this stuff starting with us having the #1 overall pick next year. You're not used to it by now?? LOL
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 14:51:07 GMT -5
A poor season of DJ....plus a new GM...who would be forever linked with passing on a generational QB talent. We pick first, a new GM is taking Lawrence. If we do well offensively as I expect, Jones is the franchise, and we should be looking for a center/WR/baby Gronk.... and spend some cash for pass rush help. I would rather they draft the pass rusher and spend on the center so there is experience there.. If we draft top 5 or even 10, I'd certainly go pass rush over center for positional value alone. I'm hoping we are picking late teens on, and that's the usual spot a center of pro bowl talent would positional value be picked, a guy to grow with Jones. Top pass rush prospects are plucked quickly and early...hoping we are above 8-8 and we can use that good cap cash next year, and purchase some proven QB pressures. But fair point regarding experience...haha, I'm wondering if Quenton Nelson ever makes it to free agency...want to see a guard making 20 mill plus per year.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 14:55:01 GMT -5
We trade the #1 to someone desperate for Lawrence and fill out the rest of our needy roster with the bushel full of picks we receive. The good news is (hopefully) we get another year to look at Jones and reserve the right to take Lawrence if the unthinkable happens. BTW, I don't even like thinking about this stuff starting with us having the #1 overall pick next year. Yeah...Vagas has us 6.5 wins...last year they had us at 6 and I went under. This year at 6.5, due to the OL being beefed, I'm sensing over...want us sniffing the playoffs and picking at least late teens. I don't see us near pick 1 overall next year.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 15:04:41 GMT -5
I would rather they draft the pass rusher and spend on the center so there is experience there.. If we draft top 5 or even 10, I'd certainly go pass rush over center for positional value alone. I'm hoping we are picking late teens on, and that's the usual spot a center of pro bowl talent would positional value be picked, a guy to grow with Jones. Top pass rush prospects are plucked quickly and early...hoping we are above 8-8 and we can use that good cap cash next year, and purchase some proven QB pressures. But fair point regarding experience...haha, I'm wondering if Quenton Nelson ever makes it to free agency...want to see a guard making 20 mill plus per year. That's what I believe yet out here there are many who feel Carter or the Xman will be that stud pass rusher because it worked with Tuck. I would pass of paying Nelson that much money.. If they are in the middle of the pack then WR would be in play for the pick but I wouldn't be upset with another olineman. Still think a LB upgrade will be needed..
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 15:05:27 GMT -5
We trade the #1 to someone desperate for Lawrence and fill out the rest of our needy roster with the bushel full of picks we receive. The good news is (hopefully) we get another year to look at Jones and reserve the right to take Lawrence if the unthinkable happens. BTW, I don't even like thinking about this stuff starting with us having the #1 overall pick next year. Yeah...Vagas has us 6.5 wins...last year they had us at 6 and I went under. This year at 6.5, due to the OL being beefed, I'm sensing over...want us sniffing the playoffs and picking at least late teens. I don't see us near pick 1 overall next year. I'm betting the under..
|
|
|
Post by Jomo on Jun 26, 2020 15:12:34 GMT -5
We trade the #1 to someone desperate for Lawrence and fill out the rest of our needy roster with the bushel full of picks we receive. The good news is (hopefully) we get another year to look at Jones and reserve the right to take Lawrence if the unthinkable happens. BTW, I don't even like thinking about this stuff starting with us having the #1 overall pick next year. Yeah...Vagas has us 6.5 wins...last year they had us at 6 and I went under. This year at 6.5, due to the OL being beefed, I'm sensing over...want us sniffing the playoffs and picking at least late teens. I don't see us near pick 1 overall next year. emoji
|
|
|
Post by giantlegacy on Jun 26, 2020 15:19:24 GMT -5
The first 4 picks as of now will be Lawrence then in order of need Sewell Rousseau Fields I have a really tough time thinking even if worse case scenario we sniff any of these guys I'm hoping we will be in take the best center spot...sniffing the playoffs. Humphries zone starts around pick 15 Going Humphries/Coxie 1/2 would certainly finish the offense for at least 5 years
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 15:25:21 GMT -5
I'm hoping we will be in take the best center spot...sniffing the playoffs. Humphries zone starts around pick 15 Going Humphries/Coxie 1/2 would certainly finish the offense for at least 5 years They are going to need a RB in a few years..
|
|
|
Post by McCherry on Jun 26, 2020 15:41:05 GMT -5
How do you rank a draft without a college season?
|
|
|
Post by Sarcasman on Jun 26, 2020 16:14:03 GMT -5
How do you rank a draft without a college season? Probably about as accurately as with one.
|
|
|
Post by giantlegacy on Jun 26, 2020 16:53:27 GMT -5
How do you rank a draft without a college season? Probably about as accurately as with one. Guess?
|
|
|
Post by OrangeGiant on Jun 26, 2020 19:25:23 GMT -5
Looking at the schedule, it is conceivable that they could lose a lot of games. They could actually be a better team than last year and still lose a lot of games against this schedule. A few bad bounces and it is possible.
They will be in a lot of close games I think, and that's always a roll of the dice and comes down to who makes the key plays and who doesn't...
|
|
|
Post by Sarcasman on Jun 26, 2020 21:08:41 GMT -5
Probably about as accurately as with one. Guess? Or one guy digs up an old scouting report and everyone just uses that. Similar results. Frankly, I'm more consumed with figuring out how this thread got in the Giants talk forum!
|
|
|
Post by giantlegacy on Jun 26, 2020 21:38:43 GMT -5
Or one guy digs up an old scouting report and everyone just uses that. Similar results. Frankly, I'm more consumed with figuring out how this thread got in the Giants talk forum!Lots of alcohol
|
|