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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 16, 2020 21:27:12 GMT -5
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jul 16, 2020 21:41:40 GMT -5
Danny White got smoked!! It’s sad that regardless of legal it is you’d probably be flagged for that today. Banks was a great player.
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Post by Roswell on Jul 16, 2020 22:29:45 GMT -5
I think that was the season that the Giants D injured 5 or 6 QBs.
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Post by Roswell on Jul 16, 2020 22:32:21 GMT -5
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 17, 2020 4:48:43 GMT -5
Definitly a penalty today. Helmet to chin strap. Banks lowered his head and the crown of his helmet popped White.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 17, 2020 4:50:37 GMT -5
I think that was the season that the Giants D injured 5 or 6 QBs. Didnt the Giants do that back with Osi Tuck JPP crew too? Might be the year we broke Romos collar bone. And Culter got hurt. And McNabb? It was like 4-5 QBs. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Jul 17, 2020 5:37:30 GMT -5
I think that was the season that the Giants D injured 5 or 6 QBs. Didnt the Giants do that back with Osi Tuck JPP crew too? Might be the year we broke Romos collar bone. And Culter got hurt. And McNabb? It was like 4-5 QBs. ah, the good old days...  |
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Post by Delicreep on Jul 17, 2020 5:54:18 GMT -5
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Jul 17, 2020 6:09:16 GMT -5
Awesome clip; nice run by Morris after, and Bart Oates stirring the pot......
Madden and Summerall were the best announcers ever.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 17, 2020 6:33:44 GMT -5
Definitly a penalty today. Helmet to chin strap. Banks lowered his head and the crown of his helmet popped White. Looked clean to me with a shoulder to the chest. In any case something of note is White has not spoken to Carl to this very day since that hit. Also, if you watch it again, note the TE goes in motion which caused LT to drop into coverage and gave Carl the “go” sign. And lastly Tony Dorset just sat there - looked like he didn’t even attempt to protect Danny. |
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Post by GameTime on Jul 17, 2020 6:47:01 GMT -5
Definitly a penalty today. Helmet to chin strap. Banks lowered his head and the crown of his helmet popped White. Looked clean to me with a shoulder to the chest. In any case something of note is White has not spoken to Carl to this very day since that hit. Also, if you watch it again, note the TE goes in motion which caused LT to drop into coverage and gave Carl the “go” sign. And lastly Tony Dorset just sat there - looked like he didn’t even attempt to protect Danny. yep....LT dropping into coverage..... Carl Banks.....Opened the door for a long drought for the Boys.....  |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 17, 2020 7:24:47 GMT -5
Face mask to the chest and wrapped his arms around White a picture perfect tackle and White knew it was coming . Looked clean to me with a shoulder to the chest. In any case something of note is White has not spoken to Carl to this very day since that hit. Also, if you watch it again, note the TE goes in motion which caused LT to drop into coverage and gave Carl the “go” sign. And lastly Tony Dorset just sat there - looked like he didn’t even attempt to protect Danny. Just remember, the NFL thinks this was a roughing the passer....  And there are much worse examples of this in todays game. That Banks hit is 100% getting him a 15 yards. |
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Post by bluejayc on Jul 17, 2020 8:11:13 GMT -5
So much greatness from yesteryear in that clip:
- First thing I noticed was Parcells putting the Giants in White at home to make the Cowboys wear their hated blues....he was the best at mind games.
- Second was Madden and Summerall's voices.....nothing better than those two doing a game back in the day....seemed like they did every Giants game in '86........"Up next except on the West Coast........Murder...........she wrote...." The "Gone.....With the Wind" line was after the 86 NFC Championship game
- Third was the hit......clean, hard, flag today simply because it's on a QB but not back then.
- Fourth was the fumble recovery......they didn't spend 20 minutes reviewing the fumble, spot, etc.......they simply moved on to the next play. That would be a five minute delay in today's NFL to see if Burt was down by contact before picking up 2 more yards.
- Fifth guess who was the lead blocker on the next play Morris run and the carrier on the play after that? Ottis Anderson....many forget he was on the 86 Giants too. Summerall actually called him Carthon on the play but Carthon was #44 not #24.
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Post by jb456 on Jul 17, 2020 8:21:10 GMT -5
Face mask to the chest and wrapped his arms around White a picture perfect tackle and White knew it was coming . Looked clean to me with a shoulder to the chest. In any case something of note is White has not spoken to Carl to this very day since that hit. Also, if you watch it again, note the TE goes in motion which caused LT to drop into coverage and gave Carl the “go” sign. And lastly Tony Dorset just sat there - looked like he didn’t even attempt to protect Danny. Just remember, the NFL thinks this was a roughing the passer.... And there are much worse examples of this in todays game. That Banks hit is 100% getting him a 15 yards. It's complete BS. He was 1 yard away going full speed. Why didn't he defy the laws of physics and stop himself from tackling the QB! |
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Post by Roswell on Jul 17, 2020 8:25:26 GMT -5
I wish Summerall and Madden could’ve lasted forever.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jul 17, 2020 8:36:18 GMT -5
Definitly a penalty today. Helmet to chin strap. Banks lowered his head and the crown of his helmet popped White. Looked clean to me with a shoulder to the chest. In any case something of note is White has not spoken to Carl to this very day since that hit. Also, if you watch it again, note the TE goes in motion which caused LT to drop into coverage and gave Carl the “go” sign. And lastly Tony Dorset just sat there - looked like he didn’t even attempt to protect Danny. Danny White was that Generation's Tony Romo Always a top regular season qb,always choked in big games it seemed..always seemed bitter in interviews as well |
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Post by DandyDon on Jul 17, 2020 8:57:39 GMT -5
Face mask to the chest and wrapped his arms around White a picture perfect tackle and White knew it was coming . Looked clean to me with a shoulder to the chest. In any case something of note is White has not spoken to Carl to this very day since that hit. Also, if you watch it again, note the TE goes in motion which caused LT to drop into coverage and gave Carl the “go” sign. And lastly Tony Dorset just sat there - looked like he didn’t even attempt to protect Danny. Just remember, the NFL thinks this was a roughing the passer.... And there are much worse examples of this in todays game. That Banks hit is 100% getting him a 15 yards. Yeah, you cant land on him. I actually think its a good rule. Not like the silly "if you touch his helmet" penalties. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 17, 2020 9:06:30 GMT -5
Just remember, the NFL thinks this was a roughing the passer.... And there are much worse examples of this in todays game. That Banks hit is 100% getting him a 15 yards. Yeah, you cant land on him. I actually think its a good rule. Not like the silly "if you touch his helmet" penalties. I dont understand how you are suppose to run full speed all jazzed up to destroy the QB, then be able to not fall on him... Matthews even braces himself coming down. He put his left arm down to not put all his weight on him. Its a bogus rule. ITs what leads to more Kiwanuka - Vince young incidents. That hesitation to not get a penalty cost us that game. Is football, not golf. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 17, 2020 9:08:01 GMT -5
Oh and yes, John Maddon is the GOAT. Miss those days. I remember him one time analyzing a mustard stain on his tie.
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Post by jimmieray on Jul 17, 2020 9:12:07 GMT -5
I thought it more, and they did it 2 seasons in a row. Also the Bears knocked out just as many, season and even career enders. And those were among the highly touted draft class of QBs (from 1983?). |
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 17, 2020 9:45:21 GMT -5
Face mask to the chest and wrapped his arms around White a picture perfect tackle and White knew it was coming . Looked clean to me with a shoulder to the chest. In any case something of note is White has not spoken to Carl to this very day since that hit. Also, if you watch it again, note the TE goes in motion which caused LT to drop into coverage and gave Carl the “go” sign. And lastly Tony Dorset just sat there - looked like he didn’t even attempt to protect Danny. Just remember, the NFL thinks this was a roughing the passer.... And there are much worse examples of this in todays game. That Banks hit is 100% getting him a 15 yards.
That is a perfect example of why football is not as enjoyable to watch as it once was.
The left hand clearly goes down to keep the full weight of the defender off the QB.
I don't think anyone has an issue with the NFL protecting the QB from a defender putting his full weight into a tackle. But the problem is they repeatedly fail at calling it. I've seen Eli take some hits that were clear violations of the rules and nothing got called.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 17, 2020 9:48:00 GMT -5
Looked clean to me with a shoulder to the chest. In any case something of note is White has not spoken to Carl to this very day since that hit. Also, if you watch it again, note the TE goes in motion which caused LT to drop into coverage and gave Carl the “go” sign. And lastly Tony Dorset just sat there - looked like he didn’t even attempt to protect Danny. Danny White was that Generation's Tony Romo Always a top regular season qb,always choked in big games it seemed..always seemed bitter in interviews as well
I used to like playing against Danny.
In fairness to him though he did follow an all-time great.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 17, 2020 9:57:40 GMT -5
Just remember, the NFL thinks this was a roughing the passer.... And there are much worse examples of this in todays game. That Banks hit is 100% getting him a 15 yards. Yeah, you cant land on him. I actually think its a good rule. Not like the silly "if you touch his helmet" penalties.
When applied correctly I have no problem with it.
If I ran the NFL's officiating the first thing I would do is insist that the officials never throw a flag unless they clearly see a violation.
Do not throw a flag if a) it's a borderline call, b) you didn't have a good angle, or thought you may have seen something, and c) the crowd or player reacts as if a foul occurred.
The game is far better off without the constant stoppages.
Another change I would make is to get rid of every automatic review. If the head coach throws the red flag, then I'd review it.
Allow the teams to dictate the flow of the game, instead of the rules.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 17, 2020 10:05:50 GMT -5
Yes, the year was 2010.
Giants defense:
Injured Matt Moore, entered Jimmy Clausen. CAR
Injured Jay Cutler, entered Todd Collins CHI
Injured Todd Collins, entered Caleb Henne CHI
Injured Drew Stanton, entered Shaun Hill DET
Injured Tony Romo, entered Jon Kitna DAL
Injured Tavarius Jackson, entered Joe Webb MIN
Not too shabby. Looks like we helped out Aaron Rodgers and the Packers quite a bit there in their division. Rodgers lit us up too that year.
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Post by Jomo on Jul 17, 2020 11:07:39 GMT -5
Definitly a penalty today. Helmet to chin strap. Banks lowered his head and the crown of his helmet popped White. Looked clean to me with a shoulder to the chest. In any case something of note is White has not spoken to Carl to this very day since that hit. Also, if you watch it again, note the TE goes in motion which caused LT to drop into coverage and gave Carl the “go” sign. And lastly Tony Dorset just sat there - looked like he didn’t even attempt to protect Danny. It looked even worse than just sitting there. It looked like he stepped forward to completely clear the way. Banks was a great, great LB and should be in the HOF. I don't recall many OLB who could seal an edge like he could. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Jul 17, 2020 11:53:03 GMT -5
Looked clean to me with a shoulder to the chest. In any case something of note is White has not spoken to Carl to this very day since that hit. Also, if you watch it again, note the TE goes in motion which caused LT to drop into coverage and gave Carl the “go” sign. And lastly Tony Dorset just sat there - looked like he didn’t even attempt to protect Danny. It looked even worse than just sitting there. It looked like he stepped forward to completely clear the way. Banks was a great, great LB and should be in the HOF. I don't recall many OLB who could seal an edge like he could. I agree 100% |
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 17, 2020 12:05:37 GMT -5
Yes, the year was 2010. Giants defense: Injured Matt Moore, entered Jimmy Clausen. CAR Injured Jay Cutler, entered Todd Collins CHI Injured Todd Collins, entered Caleb Henne CHI Injured Drew Stanton, entered Shaun Hill DET Injured Tony Romo, entered Jon Kitna DAL Injured Tavarius Jackson, entered Joe Webb MIN Not too shabby. Looks like we helped out Aaron Rodgers and the Packers quite a bit there in their division. Rodgers lit us up too that year.
I remember that. They were dropping like flies.
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Post by McCherry on Jul 17, 2020 12:08:26 GMT -5
He's an equally good analyst.
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