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Post by keyofgmen on Aug 22, 2020 6:42:25 GMT -5
Coach Zimmer indicated concern about Vikes not having home fans, but places like Dallas and KC will be having "some" fans.
Do you think the NFL should have a policy that "levels the playing field"?
Have to admit not having any fans at MetLife (hold there obvious jokes) when Dallas comes, but having 15,000 (a guess) fans at Jerry's place will not seem quite right.
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Post by TEM on Aug 22, 2020 6:58:08 GMT -5
I agree. It should be the same % allowed or none.
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Post by Delicreep on Aug 22, 2020 7:27:25 GMT -5
Coach Zimmer indicated concern about Vikes not having home fans, but places like Dallas and KC will be having "some" fans. Do you think the NFL should have a policy that "levels the playing field"? Have to admit not having any fans at MetLife (hold there obvious jokes) when Dallas comes, but having 15,000 (a guess) fans at Jerry's place will not seem quite right. Great question. I have to wonder if it would be worse for the Boys playing in Jerry world with 15,000 than it would be with 0? I can't imagine much crowd noise, and it seems like it would make it feel worse...like this was the best hey could do to get fans there. |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 22, 2020 7:48:46 GMT -5
Great question. I'd like to think its one for all and all for one but also many other issues. Concessions and other business concerns. In that regard I say do what ever the local authorities are deeming safe.
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 22, 2020 8:59:18 GMT -5
I think it's ok, as long as they stay within local regulations.
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Post by DandyDon on Aug 22, 2020 9:14:33 GMT -5
Another question, how do teams figure out who gets to go to what games?
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Post by GameTime on Aug 22, 2020 13:08:49 GMT -5
Another question, how do teams figure out who gets to go to what games? I guess it will be a mix of who gave up their seasons tix and who kept them. STH who held their tix this season have to be counted and what ever is left will be sold publicly. |
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Aug 22, 2020 21:53:48 GMT -5
At AT&T (Dallas) my understanding is season ticket holders get dibs, state of Texas allows 50% capacity at sporting events (40K), Ticket sales online only and cashless transactions in the stadium.
NFL should be in the bidness to make money for its owners as each states laws/guidelines allow. Zimmer along with Viking fans should raise hell with their city and state government if they want to attend. I would. 'Murica !
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Post by GameTime on Aug 27, 2020 10:46:42 GMT -5
I think it should be based on the local mandates regarding Covid. Some states are better than others. Thats just the way it is.
these guys are used to playing with people in the stands lets not get all "this is unfair". the whole Covid thing is unfair to all of us. Those who have lost their lives, their jobs, their own businesses.
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Post by devilsadvocate on Aug 27, 2020 12:27:52 GMT -5
I am opposed to the NFL mandating the same fan rules across the board regarding attendance. A half or quarter filled stadium will have very little impact on the away team. The league doesn't exist without fans and letting even just a few is better than some one size fits all edict from Goodell's ivory tower.
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Post by DandyDon on Aug 27, 2020 14:43:59 GMT -5
Good article on it: If you're having trouble keeping track of the NFL teams that will allow fans in their stadiums for games during the 2020 season and those that will not, you are not alone. Bills coach Sean McDermott and Vikings coach Mike Zimmer are just as frustrated. "I think it's honestly ridiculous that there will be, on the surface, what appears to be a playing field that's like that — inconsistently across the league with the different away stadiums," McDermott told media members on Aug. 24. Said Zimmer a few days prior: "It's going to be very hard because some stadiums they're allowing people in and it looks like we're not going to have any fans in there early, which really stinks because we have unbelievable fans, and they make that place rocking every Sunday." www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/fans-at-nfl-games-2020-covid-19-attendance-policy-tickets/1vh5xyd47cokq17yykgepds6zi |
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Aug 31, 2020 23:28:04 GMT -5
T&T (Dallas) my understanding is season ticket holders get dibs, state of Texas allows 50% capacity at sporting events (40K), Ticket sales online only and cashless transactions in the stadium. I thought it held more people than that? I think that is the seating capacity. For big games they have huge open concourses for standing room. That's why you see announcements of 90K+ attendances. Reall kool building and they do multiple daily tours. If in Dallas /Arlington it's worth the $35 IMO. |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 1, 2020 6:12:37 GMT -5
Good article on it: If you're having trouble keeping track of the NFL teams that will allow fans in their stadiums for games during the 2020 season and those that will not, you are not alone. Bills coach Sean McDermott and Vikings coach Mike Zimmer are just as frustrated. "I think it's honestly ridiculous that there will be, on the surface, what appears to be a playing field that's like that — inconsistently across the league with the different away stadiums," McDermott told media members on Aug. 24. Said Zimmer a few days prior: "It's going to be very hard because some stadiums they're allowing people in and it looks like we're not going to have any fans in there early, which really stinks because we have unbelievable fans, and they make that place rocking every Sunday." www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/fans-at-nfl-games-2020-covid-19-attendance-policy-tickets/1vh5xyd47cokq17yykgepds6zi“It’s not surprising that there are regional variabilities, because obviously there are differences in the state of the pandemic and the state of the infection as you move across the country,” said NFL chief medical officer Dr. Allen Sills on a recent media conference call. “So the fact that there’s not one-size-fits-all approach shouldn’t be surprising given the medical situations across the league.” All the teams have contingencies. I agree on not having a blanket policy. The only way to get back to normal is to try and "be" as normal as possible. Seems most teams are "no" fans for the first game or two and then revisit. Perfect IMO. Places like Vegas will readjust if necessary . |
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 1, 2020 7:54:26 GMT -5
Good article on it: If you're having trouble keeping track of the NFL teams that will allow fans in their stadiums for games during the 2020 season and those that will not, you are not alone. Bills coach Sean McDermott and Vikings coach Mike Zimmer are just as frustrated. "I think it's honestly ridiculous that there will be, on the surface, what appears to be a playing field that's like that — inconsistently across the league with the different away stadiums," McDermott told media members on Aug. 24. Said Zimmer a few days prior: "It's going to be very hard because some stadiums they're allowing people in and it looks like we're not going to have any fans in there early, which really stinks because we have unbelievable fans, and they make that place rocking every Sunday." www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/fans-at-nfl-games-2020-covid-19-attendance-policy-tickets/1vh5xyd47cokq17yykgepds6zi“It’s not surprising that there are regional variabilities, because obviously there are differences in the state of the pandemic and the state of the infection as you move across the country,” said NFL chief medical officer Dr. Allen Sills on a recent media conference call. “So the fact that there’s not one-size-fits-all approach shouldn’t be surprising given the medical situations across the league.” All the teams have contingencies. I agree on not having a blanket policy. The only way to get back to normal is to try and "be" as normal as possible. Seems most teams are "no" fans for the first game or two and then revisit. Perfect IMO. Places like Vegas will readjust if necessary . Yeah, it's inevitable there will be differences. The article just points out some coaches/fo are complaining. |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 1, 2020 8:52:30 GMT -5
“It’s not surprising that there are regional variabilities, because obviously there are differences in the state of the pandemic and the state of the infection as you move across the country,” said NFL chief medical officer Dr. Allen Sills on a recent media conference call. “So the fact that there’s not one-size-fits-all approach shouldn’t be surprising given the medical situations across the league.” All the teams have contingencies. I agree on not having a blanket policy. The only way to get back to normal is to try and "be" as normal as possible. Seems most teams are "no" fans for the first game or two and then revisit. Perfect IMO. Places like Vegas will readjust if necessary . Yeah, it's inevitable there will be differences. The article just points out some coaches/fo are complaining. Zimmer is complaining yet the Vikes will have fans after the first two home games. |
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Post by Zimonami on Sept 2, 2020 15:43:48 GMT -5
I think it should be based on the local mandates regarding Covid. Some states are better than others. Thats just the way it is. these guys are used to playing with people in the stands lets not get all "this is unfair". the whole Covid thing is unfair to all of us. Those who have lost their lives, their jobs, their own businesses. I agree with this. Every city and state are different. Cities can be totally different that the rest of their state. Look at any state map and you obviously see a higher concentration in and around cities. Work with the local authorities. I've watched several Met games and they do an excellent job of feeding fan reactions into the stadium. They've probably got a couple dozen different reactions, and levels of reaction... like, nice applause for a single, and much louder, typical crowd noise for a home team home run. Mixed reactions to an opponent's home run... groans, a little bit of clapping and cheers from visiting fans. It's damned near what you'd expect in a normal game. It works. They could do the same at our stadium. The silence of an opponent score vs. loud cheering for our score. Hell, just the merest home crowd advantage. Eerie, but appropriate to our times. |
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 2, 2020 15:47:29 GMT -5
I think it should be based on the local mandates regarding Covid. Some states are better than others. Thats just the way it is. these guys are used to playing with people in the stands lets not get all "this is unfair". the whole Covid thing is unfair to all of us. Those who have lost their lives, their jobs, their own businesses. I agree with this. Every city and state are different. Cities can be totally different that the rest of their state. Look at any state map and you obviously see a higher concentration in and around cities. Work with the local authorities. I've watched several Met games and they do an excellent job of feeding fan reactions into the stadium. They've probably got a couple dozen different reactions, and levels of reaction... like, nice applause for a single, and much louder, typical crowd noise for a home team home run. Mixed reactions to an opponent's home run... groans, a little bit of clapping and cheers from visiting fans. It's damned near what you'd expect in a normal game. It works. They could do the same at our stadium. The silence of an opponent score vs. loud cheering for our score. Hell, just the merest home crowd advantage. Eerie, but appropriate to our times. I've heard talk of a phone app that would let fans home audio reactions be pumped into stadiums. Probably easier said than done, but it's an interesting idea. |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 2, 2020 16:51:28 GMT -5
I think it should be based on the local mandates regarding Covid. Some states are better than others. Thats just the way it is. these guys are used to playing with people in the stands lets not get all "this is unfair". the whole Covid thing is unfair to all of us. Those who have lost their lives, their jobs, their own businesses. I agree with this. Every city and state are different. Cities can be totally different that the rest of their state. Look at any state map and you obviously see a higher concentration in and around cities. Work with the local authorities. I've watched several Met games and they do an excellent job of feeding fan reactions into the stadium. They've probably got a couple dozen different reactions, and levels of reaction... like, nice applause for a single, and much louder, typical crowd noise for a home team home run. Mixed reactions to an opponent's home run... groans, a little bit of clapping and cheers from visiting fans. It's damned near what you'd expect in a normal game. It works. They could do the same at our stadium. The silence of an opponent score vs. loud cheering for our score. Hell, just the merest home crowd advantage. Eerie, but appropriate to our times. some doable ideas there. Maybe a "golf clap" for the visiting teams and loud cheer for the home teams...lol It will be different. Thats for sure. |
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Post by allnygin on Sept 3, 2020 22:04:24 GMT -5
Coach Zimmer indicated concern about Vikes not having home fans, but places like Dallas and KC will be having "some" fans. Do you think the NFL should have a policy that "levels the playing field"? Have to admit not having any fans at MetLife (hold there obvious jokes) when Dallas comes, but having 15,000 (a guess) fans at Jerry's place will not seem quite right. There are some teams I genuinely think benefit from having a home crowd and others not so much. Giants are one of them even in winning years metlife still resembled a baseballl game or a golf tourney. Giants haven't had a home field advantage since who knows when. I do think they could set something up to at least get some fans in there responsibly, but that requires work and would probably be a hassle one of which the team probably doesn't want to deal with.. If things keep getting better its possible things will change at some point throughout the season. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 4, 2020 20:27:23 GMT -5
It's the Governors that decide for each state I thought. Goddell's policy has no consistency to it. As usual the NFL policy for anything leaves a lot to be desired.
To be fair if one team isn't allowed fans then no team should be allowed fans. But the NFL policies are directed by money more than anything else. So 15,000 fans at a 100 dollars each is still a one and a half million dollars to pay expenses. This way more of the TV money is theirs.
I guess after all these years of watching the NFL I'm just too cynical.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 5, 2020 10:40:58 GMT -5
It's the Governors that decide for each state I thought. Goddell's policy has no consistency to it. As usual the NFL policy for anything leaves a lot to be desired. To be fair if one team isn't allowed fans then no team should be allowed fans. But the NFL policies are directed by money more than anything else. So 15,000 fans at a 100 dollars each is still a one and a half million dollars to pay expenses. This way more of the TV money is theirs. I guess after all these years of watching the NFL I'm just too cynical. for me its more about getting back to normal as a town, state and country. Letting fans in where it deemed ok is for the best for all of us. I dont really care about the ramifications of home crowd advantage. I want to be back to normal more than anything else. |
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Post by giantsrock on Sept 5, 2020 14:09:55 GMT -5
Is the crowd noise actually going to be pumped into the stadiums or is is just an audio track added to the broadcast? If it's actually pumped into the stadium then that raises the questions: who controls it and how loud can it be.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 7, 2020 6:51:18 GMT -5
Is the crowd noise actually going to be pumped into the stadiums or is is just an audio track added to the broadcast? If it's actually pumped into the stadium then that raises the questions: who controls it and how loud can it be. there are regulations that it cant be over 70 decibels if its just crowd noise and cant be over 75 db with music added. It will monitored somehow by the NFL. They can do it with fans in the stands too......I believe. www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/09/04/nfl-penalties-fake-crowd-noise/ |
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