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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 11, 2020 17:33:26 GMT -5
The leagues key demographic, 18-49 had less than half the viewers compared to last year.
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Post by Parademon1 on Sept 11, 2020 18:01:28 GMT -5
Awesome! Do the job you're paid millions to do, leave politics off the field!
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Post by lasion2 on Sept 11, 2020 18:12:46 GMT -5
Possibly because the game was essentially over with 5 minutes left in the 2nd quarter?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 18:14:05 GMT -5
It's 2 markets no one else gives a damn about.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 11, 2020 18:37:07 GMT -5
It's 2 markets no one else gives a damn about. That really shouldn't matter. It's week 1, game 1, no preseason, prime time. Football enthusiasts are starved for it. If it was a normal year that game would have big time ratings IMO. The people are speaking.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 11, 2020 18:51:26 GMT -5
those who wont watch the NFL because of the state of the country and delusional reasons behind the protest are part of the problem to begin with.
**** 'em...
Its not about politics its about human decency and true equality. Some thing we lack as a society.
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Post by TEM on Sept 11, 2020 19:05:28 GMT -5
I watched it. But I refuse to watch anything before the opining kickoff.
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Post by Nite on Sept 11, 2020 19:11:25 GMT -5
Well you know certain peeps believe some are more equal than others..
Imagine saying to your paying customers "F - You!!" How long would such a business last if it were not a monopoly?
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 11, 2020 19:23:13 GMT -5
I watched it. But I refuse to watch anything before the opining kickoff. Same Turned it off at halftime because it was basically over
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Post by Parademon1 on Sept 11, 2020 19:51:45 GMT -5
It's 2 markets no one else gives a damn about. That really shouldn't matter. It's week 1, game 1, no preseason, prime time. Football enthusiasts are starved for it. If it was a normal year that game would have big time ratings IMO. The people are speaking. They'll be speaking even louder in 50 something days.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 20:08:42 GMT -5
It's 2 markets no one else gives a damn about. That really shouldn't matter. It's week 1, game 1, no preseason, prime time. Football enthusiasts are starved for it. If it was a normal year that game would have big time ratings IMO. The people are speaking. lol......The vast majority of football "fans" are casual at best. Those of us that care enough to spend time on a message board talking football or watching strictly for the love of the game are a very tiny minority. Had this been Brady vs Dallas, ratings would have been a lot higher. The people ARE speaking......they are saying "boring".
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 11, 2020 21:14:33 GMT -5
those who wont watch the NFL because of the state of the country and delusional reasons behind the protest are part of the problem to begin with. **** 'em... Its not about politics its about human decency and true equality. Some thing we lack as a society. I think there is plenty of human decency in this country and we are always moving forward and striving to be a more just nation.
But..it IS a country of human beings.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 11, 2020 21:20:18 GMT -5
That really shouldn't matter. It's week 1, game 1, no preseason, prime time. Football enthusiasts are starved for it. If it was a normal year that game would have big time ratings IMO. The people are speaking. lol......The vast majority of football "fans" are casual at best. Those of us that care enough to spend time on a message board talking football or watching strictly for the love of the game are a very tiny minority. Had this been Brady vs Dallas, ratings would have been a lot higher. The people ARE speaking......they are saying "boring". If Mahomes vs Watson is boring, what is exciting? That KC offense is anything but boring.
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 11, 2020 21:24:05 GMT -5
lol......The vast majority of football "fans" are casual at best. Those of us that care enough to spend time on a message board talking football or watching strictly for the love of the game are a very tiny minority. Had this been Brady vs Dallas, ratings would have been a lot higher. The people ARE speaking......they are saying "boring". If Mahomes vs Watson is boring, what is exciting? That KC offense is anything but boring. I truly believe the protests and involvement of NFL players is turning many people off. The players can, of course do what they want. The NFL is deathly afraid of BLM and all the backlash that would come if they tried to put a stop to it. So the players are holding all the cards at this point.
You can like it or not......but it's hurting business.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 21:40:05 GMT -5
lol......The vast majority of football "fans" are casual at best. Those of us that care enough to spend time on a message board talking football or watching strictly for the love of the game are a very tiny minority. Had this been Brady vs Dallas, ratings would have been a lot higher. The people ARE speaking......they are saying "boring". If Mahomes vs Watson is boring, what is exciting? That KC offense is anything but boring. But it's still KC and Houston. Nobody cares about KC or Houston except KC and Houston. I bet the ratings were great in those 2 markets. I watched for a little while, but ultimately I don't care either. And I just tuned out all the other stuff. You know.......like a grown up.
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 11, 2020 21:43:45 GMT -5
If Mahomes vs Watson is boring, what is exciting? That KC offense is anything but boring. But it's still KC and Houston. Nobody cares about KC or Houston except KC and Houston. I bet the ratings were great in those 2 markets. I watched for a little while, but ultimately I don't care either. And I just tuned out all the other stuff. You know.......like a grown up. KC is a huge draw with Mahommes and the fact that they are SB champs. The NFL has never been driven by individual markets. It's always about the shield. Houston/KC should have brought a huge audience.....especially amid this horrible pandemic.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 11, 2020 21:50:51 GMT -5
If Mahomes vs Watson is boring, what is exciting? That KC offense is anything but boring. But it's still KC and Houston. Nobody cares about KC or Houston except KC and Houston. I bet the ratings were great in those 2 markets. I watched for a little while, but ultimately I don't care either. And I just tuned out all the other stuff. You know.......like a grown up. Lol You? Grown up? KC might be the biggest draw out there right now...(Cowboys / Steelers) They are what the GS Warriors were to the NBA. Mahomes is Steph Curry.
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Post by lasion2 on Sept 11, 2020 21:54:41 GMT -5
Ive been thinking about streaming. Do the ratings reflect that, considering the multitude of platforms one could watch the games?
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 11, 2020 22:02:29 GMT -5
Ive been thinking about streaming. Do the ratings reflect that, considering the multitude of platforms one could watch the games? I'm sure the NFL is selling itself to advertisers through all formats. They're pretty smart.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 11, 2020 22:14:45 GMT -5
those who wont watch the NFL because of the state of the country and delusional reasons behind the protest are part of the problem to begin with. **** 'em... Its not about politics its about human decency and true equality. Some thing we lack as a society. I think there is plenty of human decency in this country and we are always moving forward and striving to be a more just nation.
But..it IS a country of human beings.
no doubt more good than not but lots of work to do in regards to true equality. Heck.....women are not even treated as equals let alone other races etc.
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Post by lasion2 on Sept 11, 2020 22:26:25 GMT -5
Ive been thinking about streaming. Do the ratings reflect that, considering the multitude of platforms one could watch the games? I'm sure the NFL is selling itself to advertisers through all formats. They're pretty smart. But I’m asking because I don’t know; do the Nielsen ratings count those eyeballs? Can they account for all the people using not so legal streaming services? Lakers playoff game probably had its effect too.
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Post by SG88 on Sept 11, 2020 23:21:39 GMT -5
Ratings can be very unreliable. They don't account for streaming, which is an option that a shit load of people (including myself) uses instead of paying a fortune for cable. If people are actually not watching because they believe that bringing awareness to things like social justice and racial equality are too much to handle BEFORE a game, then they probably shouldn't be watching anyway. The less of those types watching, the better.
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Post by SG88 on Sept 11, 2020 23:23:52 GMT -5
Ive been thinking about streaming. Do the ratings reflect that, considering the multitude of platforms one could watch the games? Streaming is way cheaper. It is awesome if you have an excellent internet connection. You can also use it on any device that you want to so you're forced to stay at home. For example, if my wife wants us to go to the zoo with kids on a Sunday, I can still watch football games with a 10 second delay on Hulu on my cell phone.
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Post by SG88 on Sept 11, 2020 23:29:24 GMT -5
Awesome! Do the job you're paid millions to do, leave politics off the field! The "politics" happen BEFORE the game. Why are bitching about this? Maybe you meant to say "leave the politics off the field unless the politics are in line with my personal beliefs."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 3:59:25 GMT -5
If Mahomes vs Watson is boring, what is exciting? That KC offense is anything but boring. But it's still KC and Houston. Nobody cares about KC or Houston except KC and Houston. I bet the ratings were great in those 2 markets. I watched for a little while, but ultimately I don't care either. And I just tuned out all the other stuff. You know.......like a grown up. You know.......like a grown up? I am guessing, the insults have .....begun. From the guy who posts everything going on his "grown up" life, on a message board main area ...from dog bites to we buy ugly houses purchases, keeping us all riveted. All grown up .... just like that racist in your avatar? You know, calling my brown Asian wife and family monkey's... I'm wondering how fans would react if slain cops families, by the hands of ghetto drug addict slime, were being honored before games in a field draped with blue lives matter with red MAGA end zones?
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Post by TEM on Sept 12, 2020 6:54:39 GMT -5
Just my opinion and logic on this,
The speculation can fly on why a marketing endeavor is failing. There is only one fact. The consumer is all telling. Sports have been on the decline for a while. Speculation can fly forever on why you are not tagging your demographic in the way that is wanted. It will never change this fact.
The exotic car model is a very good example . They are very specific in what customer demographic they are targeting and how keep that customer satisfied with their product. Build a limited amount of cars for a very small segment of the population. Produce those cars with unrelenting standards to cater to the consumer base they are going after. A very simple module that has been effective for the companies that do it.
What sports has been doing . It is just not the NFL or just sports.. A lot of companies are moving away from their traditional marketing ideals with the context that it will not change their consumer base or profit margin. If your company is an exotic car manufacture you can keep your production and employee base inline with the limitations you impose with yourself.
If your the NFL NBA MLB NASCAR those options that the exotic car manufacture constrains themselves with will work. But there are ramifications for that decision. It will at some point degrade your profit margin because your consumer base will deteriorate unless you are targeting the very wealthy and they are happy with what you are producing.
With business it does not matter; What the CEO thinks , What the employees think, What politics thinks, What religion thinks, What social justice advocates think, What orientation you are thinks or What outside influences think. It is only and always will be what the demographic of the segment of the population your product is targeting thinks. There is no social engineering, foot stopping, boycotting of services you provide, is going to change the mind of your costumers. If they do not want or feel your product lacks the value it costs. They will cease to purchase your product.
Lets go back to the exotic car manufacturer model. "Produce those cars with unrelenting standards to cater to the consumer base." Now they think They can cut the production cost of the cars they produce to a Civic of a 3 series BMW and still price their cars in the high end demographic. They believe they can maintain their consumer base? In reality they know they can never do that and maintain their viability. That is what some companies are doing. Believing they can maintain viability without changing their entire business model to conform to their new demographic targeting.
When you change your product to a formation that is in direct conflict to a segment of their target consumer base. To not indulge will be the option.
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Post by Delicreep on Sept 12, 2020 7:17:50 GMT -5
If Mahomes vs Watson is boring, what is exciting? That KC offense is anything but boring. But it's still KC and Houston. Nobody cares about KC or Houston except KC and Houston. I bet the ratings were great in those 2 markets. I watched for a little while, but ultimately I don't care either. And I just tuned out all the other stuff. You know.......like a grown up. I was excited to see a game...in theory. I absolutely could care less about either Houston or KC, as good as those two teams may be. Maybe I got near halftime before I moved on to something I actually cared about. Oh...the mute button on my remote works just fine. I kept the sound off until literally the opening kick was in the air (which has been pretty standard for me for years).
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 12, 2020 8:20:14 GMT -5
Ratings can be very unreliable. They don't account for streaming, which is an option that a shit load of people (including myself) uses instead of paying a fortune for cable. If people are actually not watching because they believe that bringing awareness to things like social justice and racial equality are too much to handle BEFORE a game, then they probably shouldn't be watching anyway. The less of those types watching, the better. I heard this morning that TV ratings were down 12.2%. When factoring in the increase in live streaming, total ratings were down 11%.
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 12, 2020 8:22:58 GMT -5
But it's still KC and Houston. Nobody cares about KC or Houston except KC and Houston. I bet the ratings were great in those 2 markets. I watched for a little while, but ultimately I don't care either. And I just tuned out all the other stuff. You know.......like a grown up. You know.......like a grown up? I am guessing, the insults have .....begun. From the guy who posts everything going on his "grown up" life, on a message board main area ...from dog bites to we buy ugly houses purchases, keeping us all riveted. All grown up .... just like that racist in your avatar? You know, calling my brown Asian wife and family monkey's... I'm wondering how fans would react if slain cops families, by the hands of ghetto drug addict slime, were being honored before games in a field draped with blue lives matter with red MAGA end zones? OK...Just calm down. This post is way over the top.
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Post by Delicreep on Sept 12, 2020 8:38:40 GMT -5
Ratings can be very unreliable. They don't account for streaming, which is an option that a shit load of people (including myself) uses instead of paying a fortune for cable. If people are actually not watching because they believe that bringing awareness to things like social justice and racial equality are too much to handle BEFORE a game, then they probably shouldn't be watching anyway. The less of those types watching, the better. I heard this morning that TV ratings were down 12.2%. When factoring in the increase in live streaming, total ratings were down 11%. Be curious to see what the ratings are for the week. Some interesting games, but the opener and both Monday night games are not going to generate a lot of interest (our interest not withstanding) Sunday nights Cowboys/Rams game might not either.
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