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Post by southerner on Sept 14, 2020 9:33:30 GMT -5
Once again Odell stunk yesterday, dropped passes and did zero for the Browns. What a mistake the Browns made making that trade with the Giants. Next year Odell will be looking for his 3rd team and will have to take a pay rate that is about 25% of he is currently paid.....if he is lucky enough to get an offer. NFL teams only keep headcases as long as they produce.....when they begin to decline at all they are let go.....and Odell has fallen off a cliff.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 14, 2020 9:41:10 GMT -5
Its amazing how sometimes personality is more important than talent. Odell has no guidance anymore. Like a boy without a father figure.
I dont think he is done, but he certainly wont live up to the hype anymore. Im willing to bet when he plays the Giants, he will find that extra motivation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 10:43:28 GMT -5
AND he probably smells like doody.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Sept 14, 2020 10:52:24 GMT -5
I don't think he was ever quite the same after the ankle injury. He just doesn't look like the same player. I don't know if that is it or if it's something else, but maybe DG and the Giants saw something physically with him that made them feel he wasn't going to be the same.
Now it could have nothing to do with that and maybe it's all mental...but he's not even close to being the same
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Post by TEM on Sept 14, 2020 11:19:27 GMT -5
With his time with the Giants Odell 2014,15,16,18 (17 he was out.)
Eli threw the ball 2411 times in that timeframe
He threw the ball to Odell 581 times or once in every 4 passes 25% of the time
Odell caught 412 passes 71%
The Browns
Baker has thrown the ball 578 times
He threw the ball to Odell 143 times. 1 in every 4 passes 25% of the time
Odell caught 77 passes 54%
Eli's completion % was 63 in that time frame over Eli's % by 8 points
Baker's % is 56. Odell is 2 points lower
It is a bit of both Baker's accuracy and Odell falling off slightly
The numbers say it more Baker than Odell.
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Post by SG88 on Sept 14, 2020 11:50:02 GMT -5
You guys do realize that the Ravens are one of the best teams in football offensively and defensively, right? Odell is still a really good receiver that just got locked up. It is what it is. You guys are really thinking way too much into this. This thread title looks sounds like a First Take or Undisputed topic. LOL
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 14, 2020 12:16:33 GMT -5
You guys do realize that the Ravens are one of the best teams in football offensively and defensively, right? Odell is still a really good receiver that just got locked up. It is what it is. You guys are really thinking way too much into this. This thread title looks sounds like a First Take or Undisputed topic. LOL Look at who started it |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 14, 2020 12:26:41 GMT -5
With his time with the Giants Odell 2014,15,16,18 (17 he was out.) Eli threw the ball 2411 times in that timeframe He threw the ball to Odell 581 times or once in every 4 passes 25% of the time Odell caught 412 passes 71% The Browns Baker has thrown the ball 578 times He threw the ball to Odell 143 times. 1 in every 4 passes 25% of the time Odell caught 77 passes 54% Eli's completion % was 63 in that time frame over Eli's % by 8 points Baker's % is 56. Odell is 2 points lower It is a bit of both Baker's accuracy and Odell falling off slightly The numbers say it more Baker than Odell. Eli was in his prime of his career. Baker is just starting off. What would Odell's numbers look like in Eli's 1st 2 years had they played together, 04-05? |
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Post by Delicreep on Sept 14, 2020 13:10:07 GMT -5
With his time with the Giants Odell 2014,15,16,18 (17 he was out.) Eli threw the ball 2411 times in that timeframe He threw the ball to Odell 581 times or once in every 4 passes 25% of the time Odell caught 412 passes 71% The Browns Baker has thrown the ball 578 times He threw the ball to Odell 143 times. 1 in every 4 passes 25% of the time Odell caught 77 passes 54% Eli's completion % was 63 in that time frame over Eli's % by 8 points Baker's % is 56. Odell is 2 points lower It is a bit of both Baker's accuracy and Odell falling off slightly The numbers say it more Baker than Odell. Chatting with a friend and die hard browns fan - I pinned the issue squarely on Baker. 1) He's waiting for OBJ to get open instead of throwing it to a spot and letting him beat out the defender and 2) he doesn't seem like he is hitting him coming across the field, where I think every Giants fan thinks OBJ is the biggest threat. |
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Post by SG88 on Sept 14, 2020 13:20:07 GMT -5
You guys do realize that the Ravens are one of the best teams in football offensively and defensively, right? Odell is still a really good receiver that just got locked up. It is what it is. You guys are really thinking way too much into this. This thread title looks sounds like a First Take or Undisputed topic. LOL Look at who started it Fair point. |
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 14, 2020 13:32:41 GMT -5
I’ve never seen a fan take pleasure in a players struggles. You would think Odell Beckham Jr was related to Stalin. Kid, gave his all for us. In the last 9 years are only taste of victory was on the back of him and the defense in ‘16. Beckham is immature, thin skinned, and has a self-entitlement issue. Other than that he played his ass off for us. And was one of very few bright spots on the field for us. He’s no longer a Giant, and seems to be dying in what is the worst run organization in all of sports.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 14, 2020 13:48:49 GMT -5
I’ve never seen a fan take pleasure in a players struggles. You would think Odell Beckham Jr was related to Stalin. Kid, gave his all for us. In the last 9 years are only taste of victory was on the back of him and the defense in ‘16. Beckham is immature, thin skinned, and has a self-entitlement issue. Other than that he played his ass off for us. And was one of very few bright spots on the field for us. He’s no longer a Giant, and seems to be dying in what is the worst run organization in all of sports. Again Look who started the post Quack quack |
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Post by southerner on Sept 14, 2020 14:12:50 GMT -5
Nobody said Baker was a great QB, but Odell is terrible now. $20M for his No. 3 WR play is a total loss for the Browns. They should trade him before the deadline if they can find a team desperate enough to take him. The No. 3 or 4 WR, whoever they may be, can provide what Odell does and more.
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 14, 2020 14:31:34 GMT -5
You guys do realize that the Ravens are one of the best teams in football offensively and defensively, right? Odell is still a really good receiver that just got locked up. It is what it is. You guys are really thinking way too much into this. This thread title looks sounds like a First Take or Undisputed topic. LOL Look at who started it The fact that someone may not like a player is not an issue for me as a fan. To each his own and I don't care whether the OP likes him or not. The question is whether or not there's legitimacy to his OP. I know Odell was targeted more than any other player but was a non-factor. Was that on him or not? |
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 14, 2020 14:37:54 GMT -5
I’ve never seen a fan take pleasure in a players struggles. You would think Odell Beckham Jr was related to Stalin. Kid, gave his all for us. In the last 9 years are only taste of victory was on the back of him and the defense in ‘16. Beckham is immature, thin skinned, and has a self-entitlement issue. Other than that he played his ass off for us. And was one of very few bright spots on the field for us. He’s no longer a Giant, and seems to be dying in what is the worst run organization in all of sports.
In fairness to him being a truly great player; he was player made went out of his way to let everyone know he no longer want to be a Giant.
He also a was not a leader. He cared more about his celebratory antics than being flagged for them and setting his teammates back.
I'm not looking to rag on him as loved his game, and I liked him when he was in a positive mind frame, but at the same time I haven't missed his act one bit.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Sept 14, 2020 14:41:08 GMT -5
I know Odell was targeted more than any other player but was a non-factor. Was that on him or not? A couple of throws were behind him. |
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Post by Dezzr on Sept 14, 2020 14:44:27 GMT -5
He's not finished. I think Baker is more comfortable throwing to Landry and the offense isn't as good as advertised.
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 14, 2020 15:09:43 GMT -5
Way premature after Game1 against one of the best teams in the NFL
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 14, 2020 15:27:37 GMT -5
He's not finished. I think Baker is more comfortable throwing to Landry and the offense isn't as good as advertised. Sounds like people in Cleveland think that he is trying to force the ball too much to Odell |
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 14, 2020 16:07:33 GMT -5
The fact that someone may not like a player is not an issue for me as a fan. To each his own and I don't care whether the OP likes him or not. The question is whether or not there's legitimacy to his OP. I know Odell was targeted more than any other player but was a non-factor. Was that on him or not? Its actually disturbing to see this openly gloating over a player he wanted to run out of town because of a rather sick personal issue he has with players that are "like him" while the rest of us have moved on Personally I think Odell has a major issue that looks more like a social development issue (ie autism/spectrum type issue ).As someone who is dating someone who has a relative that shows a lot of Odell' behavior traits that was officially diagnosed I hate to see things like this Which makes me somehow think even less of the OP than I already do (and I'm being nice because I don't want him to cry to you guys again and complain I'm being mean to him ) This is probably more an issue leaguewide than we know of. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 16:13:07 GMT -5
AND he probably smells like doody.  |
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Post by TEM on Sept 14, 2020 17:17:36 GMT -5
With his time with the Giants Odell 2014,15,16,18 (17 he was out.) Eli threw the ball 2411 times in that timeframe He threw the ball to Odell 581 times or once in every 4 passes 25% of the time Odell caught 412 passes 71% The Browns Baker has thrown the ball 578 times He threw the ball to Odell 143 times. 1 in every 4 passes 25% of the time Odell caught 77 passes 54% Eli's completion % was 63 in that time frame over Eli's % by 8 points Baker's % is 56. Odell is 2 points lower It is a bit of both Baker's accuracy and Odell falling off slightly The numbers say it more Baker than Odell. Eli was in his prime of his career. Baker is just starting off. What would Odell's numbers look like in Eli's 1st 2 years had they played together, 04-05? That is a good point. |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Sept 14, 2020 17:23:38 GMT -5
I don't know, I think it's more than that. Maybe it's the offense he's in or maybe it's the QB, or both. Or maybe he's not as explosive as he used to be. I don't know, could be completely wrong. All I know is that there are other weapons on that team that need to be accounted for, so I would think that would benefit him.
I have no agenda against the guy, for whatever reason he's almost become irrelevant..
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Post by Sarcasman on Sept 14, 2020 17:57:12 GMT -5
With his time with the Giants Odell 2014,15,16,18 (17 he was out.) Eli threw the ball 2411 times in that timeframe He threw the ball to Odell 581 times or once in every 4 passes 25% of the time Odell caught 412 passes 71% The Browns Baker has thrown the ball 578 times He threw the ball to Odell 143 times. 1 in every 4 passes 25% of the time Odell caught 77 passes 54% Eli's completion % was 63 in that time frame over Eli's % by 8 points Baker's % is 56. Odell is 2 points lower It is a bit of both Baker's accuracy and Odell falling off slightly The numbers say it more Baker than Odell. Eli was in his prime of his career. Baker is just starting off. What would Odell's numbers look like in Eli's 1st 2 years had they played together, 04-05? Manning was in his prime with Beckham? I take your point about comparing an experienced QB with a newbie but the Beckham years were hardly Manning's prime. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 14, 2020 17:59:56 GMT -5
Eli was in his prime of his career. Baker is just starting off. What would Odell's numbers look like in Eli's 1st 2 years had they played together, 04-05? Manning was in his prime with Beckham? I take your point about comparing an experienced QB with a newbie but the Beckham years were hardly Manning's prime. Thats fair. Sometimes its really hard to look at Eli and know what his prime was since he was so up and down |
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 14, 2020 18:02:17 GMT -5
Eli was in his prime of his career. Baker is just starting off. What would Odell's numbers look like in Eli's 1st 2 years had they played together, 04-05? Manning was in his prime with Beckham? I take your point about comparing an experienced QB with a newbie but the Beckham years were hardly Manning's prime. 2014 and 2015 were probably the last years of his prime .. |
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Post by DJones19 on Sept 14, 2020 22:01:36 GMT -5
I think Odell is finished after watching this.
It sounded like he seems himself as a victim. He said, "they took my authenticity away"..and said he dealt with depression and mental health issues.
He hinted that he almost retired after he broke his ankle and that he didn't really like New York. He "couldn't deal" with being on a losing team.
He stated, "he wants the same opportunities as all of these other WRs in the league and have 2000 targets, 150 catches."
Said they took his "humbleness as a weakness, and shit on us"...so he decided to bring his blonde hair back.
He's still wearing a "Los Angeles" shirt.
A whole lot of "me me me me".
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Post by allnygin on Sept 15, 2020 1:07:26 GMT -5
With his time with the Giants Odell 2014,15,16,18 (17 he was out.) Eli threw the ball 2411 times in that timeframe He threw the ball to Odell 581 times or once in every 4 passes 25% of the time Odell caught 412 passes 71% The Browns Baker has thrown the ball 578 times He threw the ball to Odell 143 times. 1 in every 4 passes 25% of the time Odell caught 77 passes 54% Eli's completion % was 63 in that time frame over Eli's % by 8 points Baker's % is 56. Odell is 2 points lower It is a bit of both Baker's accuracy and Odell falling off slightly The numbers say it more Baker than Odell. Eli was in his prime of his career. Baker is just starting off. What would Odell's numbers look like in Eli's 1st 2 years had they played together, 04-05? Surprisingly probably pretty good. Here's the breakdown in Elis second year with passing distribution with his three main targets. - Plaxico Burress - 76 catches for 1,214 yards, 7 td - Shockey - 65 catches for 891 yards, 7 td - Toomer - 60 catches for 684 yards, 7 td Eli threw for 3,762 yards total and had more TDs and less interceptions then Mayfield year two. |
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Post by Eazy E on Sept 15, 2020 5:28:48 GMT -5
OBJs respect for Eli has probably gone up tenfold since he left. Lol
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Post by southerner on Sept 17, 2020 16:49:25 GMT -5
I see the Cleveland fans are now clamoring for the Brown’s management to trade away the me-first, always injured and underachieving Odell......he won’t be a Brown after the trade deadline as he has worn out his welcome there.......next stop might be the. Chargers. After this year his contract guarantees are gone.......he will take a massive pay cut for 2021.
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