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Sept 14, 2020 20:00:39 GMT -5
Post by piddy283 on Sept 14, 2020 20:00:39 GMT -5
Has there been a single play he hasn't been hit 2 yards behind the line?
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Sept 14, 2020 20:21:35 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 20:21:35 GMT -5
Has there been a single play he hasn't been hit 2 yards behind the line? Almost as if....Shurmur was calling the plays
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Barkley
Sept 14, 2020 20:27:13 GMT -5
Post by fifthavephil on Sept 14, 2020 20:27:13 GMT -5
Generational Talent
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 20:30:03 GMT -5
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Sept 14, 2020 20:36:13 GMT -5
Saquan is gone. Some team with a good Oline can sign him because he can't make plays without help. Terrible draft pick. You don't draft RBs in tbe top 10.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 20:39:14 GMT -5
Saquan is gone. Some team with a good Oline can sign him because he can't make plays without help. Terrible draft pick. You don't draft RBs in tbe top 10. Yeah?...well like it or not, he wasn’t the problem on that field today. That line can block a little on the pass play, but they suck bad on the run. That ass line will not have a few of those guys next year.
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Post by toddbeau on Sept 14, 2020 20:44:42 GMT -5
I've seen this thread before only with a different player
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Barkley
Sept 14, 2020 20:48:45 GMT -5
Post by fifthavephil on Sept 14, 2020 20:48:45 GMT -5
Barkley , is really good on commercials. Has good timing on his verbal delivery and camera location. Unlike his running decisions.
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Sept 14, 2020 20:58:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 20:58:42 GMT -5
Saquan is gone. Some team with a good Oline can sign him because he can't make plays without help. Terrible draft pick. You don't draft RBs in tbe top 10. I never agreed with this until now. Especially the 2nd pick
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Barkley
Sept 14, 2020 21:02:55 GMT -5
Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Sept 14, 2020 21:02:55 GMT -5
i feel he has some mental block at times. not sure what it is. , doesnt seem like a everydown back to me,. use him as a special player give him the ball in space. run gallman and lewis and maybe bring someone else in.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 21:05:55 GMT -5
We might be better off with a north south back who hits the LOS quickly...there IS a difference between an EE and SB.
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Post by gmen21 on Sept 14, 2020 21:09:38 GMT -5
Bad Oline play or not. Barkley played absolutely awful. Period.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 14, 2020 21:11:54 GMT -5
The offensive line was pathetic. And they sure didn’t do him any favors tonight. But, this is why so many fans are frustrated. Barkley was the 2nd pick overall, that will follow him his whole career. Many people don’t care the line sucked, or that the Steelers defense is great. They want to see their highly talented running back make plays. Barkley will never meet the expectations fans put on him.
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Post by DJones19 on Sept 14, 2020 21:12:50 GMT -5
We might be better off with a north south back who hits the LOS quickly...there IS a difference between an EE and SB. We might perform better with an offensive line that can run block. Lineman were getting through unblocked especially in the interior all night. Haven't had much success in running the past 10 years with the exception of Barkley. I prefer to forget about North/South Andre Williams. I don't have a problem with Barkley - Gettleman and Mara on the other hand...We drafted Barkley #2 because we were in 'win now' mode or 'competitive rebuild' ...whatever that means...when just about everyone else outside the most biased Giants fans knew we needed a rebuild.
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Barkley
Sept 14, 2020 21:14:08 GMT -5
Post by GMenNY21 on Sept 14, 2020 21:14:08 GMT -5
Not sure how we can blame Barkley for an o-line that was getting blown up nearly every single run. Especially Gates and the RT
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Barkley
Sept 14, 2020 21:16:31 GMT -5
Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Sept 14, 2020 21:16:31 GMT -5
The offensive line was pathetic. And they sure didn’t do him any favors tonight. But, this is why so many fans are frustrated. Barkley was the 2nd pick overall, that will follow him his whole career. Many people don’t care the line sucked, or that the Steelers defense is great. They want to see their highly talented running back make plays. Barkley will never meet the expectations fans put on him. well i agree to a point, however he is making rookie QB money, #2 picks need to be solid. his blocking also leaves a lot to be desired.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 21:26:19 GMT -5
We might be better off with a north south back who hits the LOS quickly...there IS a difference between an EE and SB. We might perform better with an offensive line that can run block. Lineman were getting through unblocked especially in the interior all night. Haven't had much success in running the past 10 years with the exception of Barkley. I prefer to forget about North/South Andre Williams. I don't have a problem with Barkley - Gettleman and Mara on the other hand...We drafted Barkley #2 because we were in 'win now' mode or 'competitive rebuild' ...whatever that means...when just about everyone else outside the most biased Giants fans knew we needed a rebuild. No issues with offensive line building, and the OL making the running back philosophy...we can draft another tackle, guy in my avatar... and center this year and I'd be fine with it While I am not sure we could of handled the talent and amount of guys pressuring us tonight, quick handoffs and screens are the usual way to counter silly pressure...
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Barkley
Sept 14, 2020 21:27:46 GMT -5
Post by cruzsoldier on Sept 14, 2020 21:27:46 GMT -5
We might be better off with a north south back who hits the LOS quickly...there IS a difference between an EE and SB. We might perform better with an offensive line that can run block. Lineman were getting through unblocked especially in the interior all night. Haven't had much success in running the past 10 years with the exception of Barkley. I prefer to forget about North/South Andre Williams. I don't have a problem with Barkley - Gettleman and Mara on the other hand...We drafted Barkley #2 because we were in 'win now' mode or 'competitive rebuild' ...whatever that means...when just about everyone else outside the most biased Giants fans knew we needed a rebuild. The truth was Eli was washed and should have retired or been dumped after the 2017 season. The only people who wanted you to believe 3-13 was a mirage we’re Mara and Gettleman. Are corners are trash Bradbury is a good complimentary #2 but not worth what they paid him. And our pass rush has to be schemed to work. Gettleman is a good talker he will try to spin why are win total will probably be 5 games this season. If that happens he would be 14-34 as our GM. Do you really want him making any more decisions with that track record. The bottom line is wins and loses and the results aren’t there only hype and overrated players.
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Barkley
Sept 14, 2020 21:30:57 GMT -5
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Post by PennState1 on Sept 14, 2020 21:30:57 GMT -5
The Giants have a Tackle starting at Center...the QB of the Oline!
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Sept 14, 2020 21:33:12 GMT -5
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Post by mj312 on Sept 14, 2020 21:33:12 GMT -5
Has there been a single play he hasn't been hit 2 yards behind the line? This line is hot garbage .. once again .. they got destroyed tonight
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Sept 14, 2020 21:38:08 GMT -5
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Post by mj312 on Sept 14, 2020 21:38:08 GMT -5
We might perform better with an offensive line that can run block. Lineman were getting through unblocked especially in the interior all night. Haven't had much success in running the past 10 years with the exception of Barkley. I prefer to forget about North/South Andre Williams. I don't have a problem with Barkley - Gettleman and Mara on the other hand...We drafted Barkley #2 because we were in 'win now' mode or 'competitive rebuild' ...whatever that means...when just about everyone else outside the most biased Giants fans knew we needed a rebuild. The truth was Eli was washed and should have retired or been dumped after the 2017 season. The only people who wanted you to believe 3-13 was a mirage we’re Mara and Gettleman. Are corners are trash Bradbury is a good complimentary #2 but not worth what they paid him. And our pass rush has to be schemed to work. Gettleman is a good talker he will try to spin why are win total will probably be 5 games this season. If that happens he would be 14-34 as our GM. Do you really want him making any more decisions with that track record. The bottom line is wins and loses and the results aren’t there only hype and overrated players. This should be gettlemans last year if they suck.. giving him another year to do nothing is dumb .. wins and losses is the only way to judge a GM.. dave has had a high draft picks and we still suck.. if this continues hes gotta go
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Post by giantsrock on Sept 14, 2020 21:39:22 GMT -5
Saquan is gone. Some team with a good Oline can sign him because he can't make plays without help. Terrible draft pick. You don't draft RBs in tbe top 10. Lol. No RB can make plays if he has three defensive lineman draped over him when he gets the ball.
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Barkley
Sept 14, 2020 21:40:16 GMT -5
Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 14, 2020 21:40:16 GMT -5
I dont think he is much different than David Wilson would have been for us, had he not gotten hurt.
I miss Ahmad Bradshaw.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 21:41:04 GMT -5
We might be better off with a north south back who hits the LOS quickly...there IS a difference between an EE and SB. The weakness of the Steeler Defense was supposed to be their run stopping
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Barkley
Sept 14, 2020 21:41:23 GMT -5
Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 14, 2020 21:41:23 GMT -5
Saquan is gone. Some team with a good Oline can sign him because he can't make plays without help. Terrible draft pick. You don't draft RBs in tbe top 10. Lol. No RB can make plays if he has three defensive lineman draped over him when he gets the ball. Can any RBs catch a football? Make some guys miss? Actually break a tackle? There was one play early on, in the redzone, he bounced out when he should have just when between the tackles and got a few yards instead he lost a few.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Sept 14, 2020 21:45:33 GMT -5
The truth was Eli was washed and should have retired or been dumped after the 2017 season. The only people who wanted you to believe 3-13 was a mirage we’re Mara and Gettleman. Are corners are trash Bradbury is a good complimentary #2 but not worth what they paid him. And our pass rush has to be schemed to work. Gettleman is a good talker he will try to spin why are win total will probably be 5 games this season. If that happens he would be 14-34 as our GM. Do you really want him making any more decisions with that track record. The bottom line is wins and loses and the results aren’t there only hype and overrated players. This should be gettlemans last year if they suck.. giving him another year to do nothing is dumb .. wins and losses is the only way to judge a GM.. dave has had a high draft picks and we still suck.. if this continues hes gotta go He’s basically had 3 top 5 picks and that extra 1st rd pick. If we are a 5 win team picking top 5 again I don’t know how Mara can bring him back ?
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Sept 14, 2020 21:50:30 GMT -5
I dont think he is much different than David Wilson would have been for us, had he not gotten hurt. I miss Ahmad Bradshaw. I miss Tiki.
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Barkley
Sept 14, 2020 21:56:14 GMT -5
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 14, 2020 21:56:14 GMT -5
This should be gettlemans last year if they suck.. giving him another year to do nothing is dumb .. wins and losses is the only way to judge a GM.. dave has had a high draft picks and we still suck.. if this continues hes gotta go He’s basically had 3 top 5 picks and that extra 1st rd pick. If we are a 5 win team picking top 5 again I don’t know how Mara can bring him back ? I aaid DG should have been fired after taking Barkley. I wasnt kidding. He has no idea how to build a team. And now here we are. And our rebuild takes a step back next year needing another GM. Who will then want to find a QB and new HC if the team struggles. And the cycle continues.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Sept 14, 2020 22:00:10 GMT -5
I mean he's good, but a #2 pick?
**Looks at Josh Allen and thinks what could have been
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Post by JoeyCush on Sept 14, 2020 22:02:35 GMT -5
We'll never see what Saquon can really do in this offense if this is going to be a stat every week.
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