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Post by jb456 on Sept 17, 2020 11:17:30 GMT -5
I don't think he was trying to throw it out of bounds. Look at 6:02 of the attached video. He could have easily threw it out of the left corner of the endzone without stopping and planting. There wans't a stealer in front of him for 7 yards. Edit. He could of actually been trying to make a play and changed his mind to late. He was just trying to wait until the last possible minute to see if a play developed before he threw it away … obviously waited too long. This is what I think happened. If he was planning to throw it away once he was flushed, he wouldn't have stopped running or ran out of bounds. On the other hand, the Giants weren't going to be able to run the ball in so maybe he felt that he had to make something happen in that spot. No one can really pound him for that. The dude was under pressure the whole game and was forced to constantly quickly get rid of the ball. To be honest, the Giants probably didn't have a shot at winning that game unless they scored right there.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 17, 2020 11:46:13 GMT -5
As per Art Stapleton, Jones confirmed that he was trying to throw the ball away. Makes me feel better because if he was trying to throw to Slayton with 5 Steelers around him, that would have been such a boneheaded decision that it would really make you question this kid's decision-making process. If he was trying to throw it away though, IMO it makes the mistake more of a physical than a mental one (although there is a mental aspect to it in that he misjudged the timing). Hopefully a learning experience that he doesn't repeat …. wonder why he wouldnt go side line then to throw it away? IMO he wanted the back of the end zone......BUT......maybe....just maybe....Slayton makes a huge grab!!...
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 17, 2020 11:51:30 GMT -5
He was just trying to wait until the last possible minute to see if a play developed before he threw it away … obviously waited too long. This is what I think happened. If he was planning to throw it away once he was flushed, he wouldn't have stopped running or ran out of bounds. On the other hand, the Giants weren't going to be able to run the ball in so maybe he felt that he had to make something happen in that spot. No one can really pound him for that. The dude was under pressure the whole game and was forced to constantly quickly get rid of the ball. To be honest, the Giants probably didn't have a shot at winning that game unless they scored right there. Exactly. He was desperate to try and make sure they got a TD after a long drive. I don't blame him for trying. Best case TD, middle FG, worst no score. Unfortunately, inexperience got him the worst. He'll learn from it.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 17, 2020 11:52:37 GMT -5
Was a better defensive effort play than it was a bad decision by Jones
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 17, 2020 12:23:43 GMT -5
Was a better defensive effort play than it was a bad decision by Jones I disagree. It's not like he couldn't see the defender. He just misjudged. It happens, especially to young QBs.
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Post by Jomo on Sept 17, 2020 19:58:59 GMT -5
Was a better defensive effort play than it was a bad decision by Jones I disagree. It's not like he couldn't see the defender. He just misjudged. It happens, especially to young QBs. It was a mistake by Jones plain and simple. Defenders make great plays all the time. His job is to NOT turn great defensive plays into turnovers. He is a young QB and it is part of his developmental process. It is no big deal as long as he learns from it and it NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.
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Post by bavarobeast on Sept 17, 2020 20:06:52 GMT -5
Anyone who thought Jones was doing anything but trying to throw the ball away was just wanting to jump on “ The Whine Train “ because of the way the play turned out. I never thought for a second he was trying to fit the ball in amongst a slew of defenders. His arm got hit and way to many jumped to a conclusion - the wrong one.
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Post by bavarobeast on Sept 17, 2020 20:09:43 GMT -5
Was a better defensive effort play than it was a bad decision by Jones Exactly - that “ should “ of been evident to all. But some folks.........smh
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 17, 2020 21:08:04 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone else noticed, but he was in a similar situation later in the game and he just threw it directly out of bounds without trying to get set or anything. I think he learned from the mistake. We will see I guess. The side line was the easier throw away think it was closer and he would have turned his body away from the defender. as you said that is what he did later in the game.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 17, 2020 21:14:08 GMT -5
Was a better defensive effort play than it was a bad decision by Jones On the positive side of his performance I thought he was accurate like really accurate, under some serious pressure to me his arm looks much stronger then last year a lot more zip. I'm looking forward to our line hopefully gelling and giving him time, this kid with time might be pretty tough to deal with. That said if they do get better throughout the year and get Barkely going it's gonna be a tough combo.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 17, 2020 21:17:57 GMT -5
Anyone who thought Jones was doing anything but trying to throw the ball away was just wanting to jump on “ The Whine Train “ because of the way the play turned out. I never thought for a second he was trying to fit the ball in amongst a slew of defenders. His arm got hit and way to many jumped to a conclusion - the wrong one. Exactly I never thought anything other then that he was trying to get it out of the end zone, as I said before the only mistake he made is not just tossing out of bounds on the sideline, or just throwing it away sooner.
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Post by lasion2 on Sept 18, 2020 7:28:29 GMT -5
As per Art Stapleton, Jones confirmed that he was trying to throw the ball away. Makes me feel better because if he was trying to throw to Slayton with 5 Steelers around him, that would have been such a boneheaded decision that it would really make you question this kid's decision-making process. If he was trying to throw it away though, IMO it makes the mistake more of a physical than a mental one (although there is a mental aspect to it in that he misjudged the timing). Hopefully a learning experience that he doesn't repeat …. I didn’t read the whole thread so apologies if I’m repeating anything; There was a similar situation early in the 4th (I think, I’ll try to find the play) where DJ was pushed left, glanced over his shoulder, and got the ball out of bounds in a hurry.
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 18, 2020 8:34:46 GMT -5
As per Art Stapleton, Jones confirmed that he was trying to throw the ball away. Makes me feel better because if he was trying to throw to Slayton with 5 Steelers around him, that would have been such a boneheaded decision that it would really make you question this kid's decision-making process. If he was trying to throw it away though, IMO it makes the mistake more of a physical than a mental one (although there is a mental aspect to it in that he misjudged the timing). Hopefully a learning experience that he doesn't repeat …. I didn’t read the whole thread so apologies if I’m repeating anything; There was a similar situation early in the 4th (I think, I’ll try to find the play) where DJ was pushed left, glanced over his shoulder, and got the ball out of bounds in a hurry. That's a good sign.
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Post by McCherry on Sept 18, 2020 10:52:19 GMT -5
Overall, Jones had a very good night throwing the ball. People keep bringing up the pressure, he's been under pressure his entire career. The offense basically did what they wanted throwing against one of the top passing defenses.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 18, 2020 11:01:17 GMT -5
Regardless of what his intention was. The outcome is still an interception. I don’t try to get into the head of Jones and analyze what he should have done in that situation. The final result was a back breaking drive killer. Those kind of drives have to end in a touchdown. Will he learn from it? I hope so.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 22, 2020 15:47:51 GMT -5
Dupree wrecked the game for the Broncos too. Messed up Lock and caused a big fumble. I mean DJ needs to throw that ball out sooner but Dupree made a great play as he usually does.
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