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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Oct 11, 2020 12:11:36 GMT -5
No kidding. We’re averaging less points than the Jets. You know how difficult that is? They would kill to have Engram, Slayton and Tate on their roster. That offense has puke written all over it.. IMO: The HC needs to take the handcuffs off the QB . Hand the kid the ball and say one thing to him . Go win . It’s an offensive league these days. Even the bad teams score some points. Jones already frustrates with his play and honestly the sense of obligation he feels trying to protect the ball may be doing more harm than good. I know his health is at risk, but I think he should run and run until the defenses have to change what they are doing to defend that. Honestly it’s the best weapon this offense has.
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Post by TEM on Oct 11, 2020 12:15:04 GMT -5
No kidding. We’re averaging less points than the Jets. You know how difficult that is? They would kill to have Engram, Slayton and Tate on their roster. That offense has puke written all over it.. I think some fans are really thinking every week that this is the week. With this offense I honestly have no idea who this team will beat. Not with the way it is playing . Stop with the blah blah Mistakes have consequences and Blah Blah protect the ball nonsense and let the kid play his game. Get out of the kids head. Mistakes and Turning the ball over is part of the process . Being timid with the ball isn't . I would rather have the 4 TDs and 3 TO DJ we had last year. Than the shell of himself this staff has turned him into.
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Post by TEM on Oct 11, 2020 12:16:26 GMT -5
IMO: The HC needs to take the handcuffs off the QB . Hand the kid the ball and say one thing to him . Go win . It’s an offensive league these days. Even the bad teams score some points. Jones already frustrates with his play and honestly the sense of obligation he feels trying to protect the ball may be doing more harm than good. I know his health is at risk, but I think he should run and run until the defenses have to change what they are doing to defend that. Honestly it’s the best weapon this offense has. Sad to say but you are right. That will get him killed.
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Post by tuckrule on Oct 11, 2020 12:32:43 GMT -5
No kidding. We’re averaging less points than the Jets. You know how difficult that is? They would kill to have Engram, Slayton and Tate on their roster. That offense has puke written all over it.. I think some fans are really thinking every week that this is the week. With this offense I honestly have no idea who this team will beat. This team is a team in transition. All the changes Joe Judge is implementing are going to take time. He stated on his first press conferences that he is making a lot of changes on the way not only the team is but wholesale changes to the way the entire organization is. He has also stated many times that what he is looking for in improvement from each and every aspect of this organization. As far as the football team goes he is looking for improvement day to day week to week and month to month as he implements his plan. His plan for LONG TERM SUCCESS of the franchise. Wins and losses be damned he want improvement, with that improvement the wins will eventually come. Just listen to Judge and what he says, not hear him But LISTEN TO HIM. I like what Im seeing I dont like losing at all but Im willing to accept the losses as long as this team is improving and from what I see it is improving, and it is improving faster than I could have thought it would. Judge is not going to rush his plan, no matter who get pissed off at him. He has a plan and he has a timetable. Not your time table not the presses time table not even Mara and Tisches time table. It is his time table. I for one trust Joe Judge, I think this is what the Giants have needed for a long time. Quick Fixes dont work and they never have. I would rather take the time it takes now and win multiple back to back Championships than to rush and win a Championship every 5 to 7 years and be mediocre in between
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 12:37:08 GMT -5
No kidding. We’re averaging less points than the Jets. You know how difficult that is? They would kill to have Engram, Slayton and Tate on their roster. That offense has puke written all over it.. IMO: The HC needs to take the handcuffs off the QB . Hand the kid the ball and say one thing to him . Go win . What handcuff are you referring to? Do you think Judge is holding Jones back in some way?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 12:38:41 GMT -5
I don't know man....... Just want this team to win in the worst way. They need it so badly. Today is my Super Bowl. If they Win it will be a huge confidence booster for us and Totally devastate the Cowboys. They will definitely Implode.
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Post by TEM on Oct 11, 2020 12:42:17 GMT -5
IMO: The HC needs to take the handcuffs off the QB . Hand the kid the ball and say one thing to him . Go win . What handcuff are you referring to? Do you think Judge is holding Jones back in some way? Yes I think Judge is in his head , Making him think instead of playing. Something changed with DJ's approach to the game and it ain't in a good way . His overall demeanor is different. I do not think it is JG because Dak did not have this problem.
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Post by Roosevelt on Oct 11, 2020 12:53:53 GMT -5
Getting ready for Game Day!
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Post by Delicreep on Oct 11, 2020 12:55:08 GMT -5
I don't know man....... Just want this team to win in the worst way. They need it so badly. I’m fearing they get blown out this game, and a downward spiral of not playing hard sets in.
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Post by allnygin on Oct 11, 2020 12:56:31 GMT -5
This season I haven't expected much and mostly have jsut been looking for the team to be competitive. That being said - I really want the dub today against the cowboys. Also, week 5 training wheels should be coming off. Players should be getting use to scheme and each other, coaches should know what their players are and are not capable off. This game will be a great test of what this team is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 13:01:09 GMT -5
What handcuff are you referring to? Do you think Judge is holding Jones back in some way? Yes I think Judge is in his head , Making him think instead of playing. Something changed with DJ's approach to the game and it ain't in a good way . His overall demeanor is different. I do not think it is JG because Dak did not have this problem. Yeah he is definitely off from the end of last year. Going against some Great Defenses and learning a whole mew system takes time. Hopefully he destroys the Cowboys today and we can end this talk once and for alll
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Post by tuckrule on Oct 11, 2020 13:02:48 GMT -5
Getting ready for Game Day!
Where can I get one of them, even though I have yet to even wear one anywhere and at anytime. Im not sick and chances are I wont get Covid because I have an immune system
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Post by Fletch842 on Oct 11, 2020 13:04:42 GMT -5
This season I haven't expected much and mostly have jsut been looking for the team to be competitive. That being said - I really want the dub today against the cowboys. Also, week 5 training wheels should be coming off. Players should be getting use to scheme and each other, coaches should know what their players are and are not capable off. This game will be a great test of what this team is. it looked like they were starting to gel in the 2nd half last week. If they can improve on that, even slightly, it will go a long way.
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Post by Roosevelt on Oct 11, 2020 13:06:37 GMT -5
Getting ready for Game Day!
Where can I get one of them, even though I have yet to even wear one anywhere and at anytime. Im not sick and chances are I wont get Covid because I have an immune system You can have them made on line as long as they don't give you a hassle about the logo.
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Post by tuckrule on Oct 11, 2020 13:17:47 GMT -5
Where can I get one of them, even though I have yet to even wear one anywhere and at anytime. Im not sick and chances are I wont get Covid because I have an immune system You can have them made on line as long as they don't give you a hassle about the logo. Thanks Rosie
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 13:18:42 GMT -5
No kidding. We’re averaging less points than the Jets. You know how difficult that is? They would kill to have Engram, Slayton and Tate on their roster. That offense has puke written all over it.. IMO: The HC needs to take the handcuffs off the QB . Hand the kid the ball and say one thing to him . Go win . I don’t see handcuffs on Jones. This is his offense, big reason why Jason Garrett was brought on. I think with the loss of Shurmur and Barkley has hindered Jones play. As bad as Shurmur was as a head coach, and he was terrible. In the football circles he was known to get the most out of young quarterbacks. Not having Shurmurs input and positive feedback has to hurt Jones’s game. He might not openly admit it, but losing Shurmur hurt him. Also, losing Barkley is a big loss. Jones has played dating back to last year 5 games without Saquon Barkley. And so far he has averaged 171 yards a game with 4 touchdowns to 8 interceptions. Not surprising with a 1-4 record. That has to get better, we will not win a single game if we continue on this path.
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Post by Bigjeep on Oct 11, 2020 13:27:44 GMT -5
This could be a blowout! Cowboys can score and the Giants can't! 42 - 13
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 13:32:05 GMT -5
This could be a blowout! Cowboys can score and the Giants can't! 42 - 13 But we have the 5th best Defense soooo it will be interesting to see how it plays out Ps AND our Secret Weapon Garrett who should know all of Daks weaknesses
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Post by TEM on Oct 11, 2020 13:35:41 GMT -5
IMO: The HC needs to take the handcuffs off the QB . Hand the kid the ball and say one thing to him . Go win . I don’t see handcuffs on Jones. This is his offense, big reason why Jason Garrett was brought on. I think with the loss of Shurmur and Barkley has hindered Jones play. As bad as Shurmur was as a head coach, and he was terrible. In the football circles he was known to get the most out of young quarterbacks. Not having Shurmurs input and positive feedback has to hurt Jones’s game. He might not openly admit it, but losing Shurmur hurt him. Also, losing Barkley is a big loss. Jones has played dating back to last year 5 games without Saquon Barkley. And so far he has averaged 171 yards a game with 4 touchdowns to 8 interceptions. Not surprising with a 1-4 record. That has to get better, we will not win a single game if we continue on this path. i think there is some validity to that ,Add Judge's hard line approach and a young QB , it is the combination of what is on display . I thing the Qb needs to be allowed to learn . If turning the ball over while being aggressive in his play is what it is for now. I am all for it. Turning the ball over and being unsure. That is not learning . That is fear. The death sentence for a Qb is being afraid of making mistakes. Every Qb should know this as it pertains to fear of passing outcome. When the ball is thrown 3 things can happen and 2 of them are not good.
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Post by finngiant on Oct 11, 2020 13:40:07 GMT -5
I agree with everyone here that this game feels more important than others and I really want us to beat the Cowboys who were yet again going to the superbowl before the season started.
Lets hope we play well and its a good game from us.
Hope the Giants learned from previous weeks not to put shit and fans in the same room again!
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 13:41:09 GMT -5
I don’t see handcuffs on Jones. This is his offense, big reason why Jason Garrett was brought on. I think with the loss of Shurmur and Barkley has hindered Jones play. As bad as Shurmur was as a head coach, and he was terrible. In the football circles he was known to get the most out of young quarterbacks. Not having Shurmurs input and positive feedback has to hurt Jones’s game. He might not openly admit it, but losing Shurmur hurt him. Also, losing Barkley is a big loss. Jones has played dating back to last year 5 games without Saquon Barkley. And so far he has averaged 171 yards a game with 4 touchdowns to 8 interceptions. Not surprising with a 1-4 record. That has to get better, we will not win a single game if we continue on this path. i think there is some validity to that ,Add Judge's hard line approach and a young QB , it is the combination of what is on display . I thing the Qb needs to be allowed to learn . If turning the ball over while being aggressive in his play is what it is for now. I am all for it. Turning the ball over and being unsure. That is not learning . That is fear. The death sentence for a Qb is being afraid of making mistakes. Every Qb should know this as it pertains to fear of passing outcome. When the ball is thrown 3 things can happen and 2 of them are not good. Parcells said it best in ‘86 speaking about Simms and the passing game. “I don’t care if you throw 4 interceptions, keep throwing the ball down field.” Of course hearing that from the toughest nut to crack gave Simms all the confidence he needed. Jones needs to not be afraid of making mistakes. And play to win, not to lose. Now, it’s easier said than done. Especially, from a player who has major issues turning the ball over.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Oct 11, 2020 13:45:35 GMT -5
Getting ready for Game Day!
Where can I get one of them, even though I have yet to even wear one anywhere and at anytime. Im not sick and chances are I wont get Covid because I have an immune system ....Everyone's just gonna ignore this post?? ....ok then.....
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 13:48:53 GMT -5
Where can I get one of them, even though I have yet to even wear one anywhere and at anytime. Im not sick and chances are I wont get Covid because I have an immune system ....Everyone's just gonna ignore this post?? ....ok then..... I wouldn’t wear a mask either if I lived on Mars.
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Post by GameTime on Oct 11, 2020 14:03:17 GMT -5
I don't know man....... Just want this team to win in the worst way. They need it so badly. I’m fearing they get blown out this game, and a downward spiral of not playing hard sets in. thats not out of the question. That will be come Judge's greatest task if they lose today and going forward.
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Post by Kase1 on Oct 11, 2020 14:24:34 GMT -5
If we beat the cowboys that will be a HUGE confidence booster, it might jump start our offense, and in turn help Jonesy make that leap from regression to progression
Whats everyone drinking/smoking/eating today during the game??
Im not sure what we're getting to eat yet, but i have some local DUBCO (Destination Unknown) beers, some Chem 4 Shatter and Durban Poison flower to smoke on
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 14:40:34 GMT -5
What handcuff are you referring to? Do you think Judge is holding Jones back in some way? Yes I think Judge is in his head , Making him think instead of playing. Something changed with DJ's approach to the game and it ain't in a good way . His overall demeanor is different. I do not think it is JG because Dak did not have this problem. I believe the OL is in his head
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Oct 11, 2020 14:44:42 GMT -5
If we beat the cowboys that will be a HUGE confidence booster, it might jump start our offense, and in turn help Jonesy make that leap from regression to progression Whats everyone drinking/smoking/eating today during the game?? Im not sure what we're getting to eat yet, but i have some local DUBCO (Destination Unknown) beers, some Chem 4 Shatter and Durban Poison flower to smoke on IPA's right now, wine with dinner, which is chicken braised in red wine, fennel, onion, shallots, splashed with some vodka sauce and peas, served over spaghetti....grated pecorino on the side.
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Post by Kase1 on Oct 11, 2020 14:49:59 GMT -5
If we beat the cowboys that will be a HUGE confidence booster, it might jump start our offense, and in turn help Jonesy make that leap from regression to progression Whats everyone drinking/smoking/eating today during the game?? Im not sure what we're getting to eat yet, but i have some local DUBCO (Destination Unknown) beers, some Chem 4 Shatter and Durban Poison flower to smoke on IPA's right now, wine with dinner, which is chicken braised in red wine, fennel, onion, shallots, splashed with some vodka sauce and peas, served over spaghetti....grated pecorino on the side. Not a vodka sauce fan, but otherwise that sounds like a tasty dinner
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Post by Fletch842 on Oct 11, 2020 14:52:31 GMT -5
If we beat the cowboys that will be a HUGE confidence booster, it might jump start our offense, and in turn help Jonesy make that leap from regression to progression Whats everyone drinking/smoking/eating today during the game?? Im not sure what we're getting to eat yet, but i have some local DUBCO (Destination Unknown) beers, some Chem 4 Shatter and Durban Poison flower to smoke on IPA's right now, wine with dinner, which is chicken braised in red wine, fennel, onion, shallots, splashed with some vodka sauce and peas, served over spaghetti....grated pecorino on the side. I'm on a major diet, so no alcohol for me for awhile. I'll make a nice chef salad for dinner. Have some Golden State Banana flower to vape on, so don't feel bad for my non-drinking, I'll get by somehow!!!
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Post by TEM on Oct 11, 2020 14:55:21 GMT -5
Yes I think Judge is in his head , Making him think instead of playing. Something changed with DJ's approach to the game and it ain't in a good way . His overall demeanor is different. I do not think it is JG because Dak did not have this problem. I believe the OL is in his head I our O-line was just as bad last season.
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