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Post by Martin on Oct 11, 2020 18:55:10 GMT -5
The Dallas D did a good job of stopping our run and putting pressure on Jones in the second half.
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Post by ovidius on Oct 11, 2020 18:55:29 GMT -5
So.. With a back up QB... They were able to drive down the field against us not once but twice to get a tying FG and a game winner. Yea moral victories... Lets hear it coach. Stayed in the game... Played hard... So tired of losing. Especially to Dallas and philthy. Dalton was an 8 year starter right up through last year. FWIW Yea but he's a backup now. With what two or three back up linemen protecting him?
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2020 18:56:39 GMT -5
So.. With a back up QB... They were able to drive down the field against us not once but twice to get a tying FG and a game winner. Yea moral victories... Lets hear it coach. Stayed in the game... Played hard... So tired of losing. Especially to Dallas and philthy. Dalton was an 8 year starter right up through last year. FWIW Lamb Cooper Gallup Makes his job easier
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Post by boxcarwillie on Oct 11, 2020 18:56:41 GMT -5
We'd all be happier, an more perceptive, if we'd think in terms of "coach Judge's first year" instead of "the 4th crappy year in a row".
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 18:57:25 GMT -5
The pass pro needs to get better. No QB is going to thrive with the pressure Jones is seeing on a consistent basis. Thomas is going to take some time. We better pick up a veteran RT in the off-season, because we don't have time to let another rookie get up to speed. This goes back to Reese never drafting linemen high in the draft. This was a game where penalties took points of the board for us. It's maddening but I still like what the coaches are doing with what they have. Yeah, let’s blame Reese. He’s been gone for 3 years now. Might as well blame Kevin Gilbride on the offensive production while you’re at it.
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Post by ovidius on Oct 11, 2020 18:57:53 GMT -5
Honestly... I'm so down on our team that even if that fake FG wasn't called back... and the pick penalty wasn't called so they both were TDs. We'd still find a way to have lost this game.
It has happened too often that I feel like a kicked dog that just whimpers whenever someone lifts their foot off the ground.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 11, 2020 18:59:25 GMT -5
The refs made bad calls which hurt but we still had all the chances to win this but could not close the game out. I really feel Jones is not good enough to take us to a super bowl. I know the o line does not help but wasnt he supposed to be athletic and be able to move and counter that to some degree. Dalton is a good qb but still... find a way to win for once. We could easily be 2-3 and leading our division but find a way to lose. We got the friggin Ball back in the end with a good chance to wim the game with fg or at least go to OT. Somehow we give them the Ball back and let them kick the winning fg. No way should they get the Ball back when we get it with under 2 mins. So frustrated with this team right now. And remember Dallas has the worst D in the league, had a center playing his first game and lost their qb and still we cant win. Aaaaaaargh. On the first catch by Gallup there was a big time hold the refs was pulling the flag then Camara came off him, no excises but this was a poorly called game the Gates holding was pathetic the view on the TV replay he was inside the frame work the slayton OPI was Garbage also. Dllas was holding all day it is BS that they played that clean of a game.
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Post by Miked1958 on Oct 11, 2020 19:00:08 GMT -5
ran for his life against one of worst Ds in league Made the comeback with 11-0 run to take the 34-31 lead. Then after dallas settled for FG. Jones had the chance to be the hero. Nope And right in sequence 50 seconds left we all knew what was coming Thats 10 points they gave up in last 1+ of both halves. Theres your game Jones was running for his life, I wouldn't put it on him. problem is that D line hasnt had anyone running for their lives this year
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 11, 2020 19:01:47 GMT -5
The pass pro needs to get better. No QB is going to thrive with the pressure Jones is seeing on a consistent basis. Thomas is going to take some time. We better pick up a veteran RT in the off-season, because we don't have time to let another rookie get up to speed. This goes back to Reese never drafting linemen high in the draft. This was a game where penalties took points of the board for us. It's maddening but I still like what the coaches are doing with what they have. Yeah, let’s blame Reese. He’s been gone for 3 years now. Might as well blame Kevin Gilbride on the offensive production while you’re at it. They are a young team by years end if Jones doesn't shape up they will be drafting a QB.
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Post by McCherry on Oct 11, 2020 19:02:07 GMT -5
Dalton was an 8 year starter right up through last year. FWIW Lamb Cooper Gallup Makes his job easier The Giants need to draft their CeeDee Lamb with their top pick next year. No question.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 11, 2020 19:04:12 GMT -5
One thing I will say is if people think Carter doesn't matter they are wrong he was missed and Xman taking some snaps hurt also.
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Post by GMenNY21 on Oct 11, 2020 19:04:20 GMT -5
Lamb Cooper Gallup Makes his job easier The Giants need to draft their CeeDee Lamb with their top pick next year. No question. We’ll be picking way too high to pick a WR . But if it’s Gettleman doing the picking who knows
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 11, 2020 19:04:37 GMT -5
Lamb Cooper Gallup Makes his job easier The Giants need to draft their CeeDee Lamb with their top pick next year. No question. If we are in position to draft trevor lawrence, you draft trevor lawrence.
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Post by McCherry on Oct 11, 2020 19:04:48 GMT -5
The Giants should've scored close to 50 points in this game.
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Post by gmen21 on Oct 11, 2020 19:04:56 GMT -5
We need a mother fu**ing pass rusher! How do we still not have a legit pass rusher?
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Post by OrangeGiant on Oct 11, 2020 19:05:00 GMT -5
It is what it is, and in the end they had a chance to win it but didn't get it done...
But those calls that took away 2 TDs most certainly had an effect in the game. Those were BS calls...you can't completely discount them.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2020 19:05:50 GMT -5
One thing I will say is if people think Carter doesn't matter they are wrong he was missed and Xman taking some snaps hurt also. Huge blow Our run defense suffered bigtike when he went down..
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 19:07:04 GMT -5
It is what it is, and in the end they had a chance to win it but didn't get it done... But those calls that took away 2 TDs most certainly had an effect in the game. Those were BS calls...you can't completely discount them. Bad teams don’t get the calls.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2020 19:07:14 GMT -5
We need a mother fu**ing pass rusher! How do we still not have a legit pass rusher? We have a ton of cap space the next 2 years and teams will be over the cap Thats how,you get that piece when you have the foundation
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2020 19:07:39 GMT -5
It is what it is, and in the end they had a chance to win it but didn't get it done... But those calls that took away 2 TDs most certainly had an effect in the game. Those were BS calls...you can't completely discount them. Bad teams don’t get the calls. Especially in Dallas
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Post by gmen21 on Oct 11, 2020 19:07:58 GMT -5
It is what it is, and in the end they had a chance to win it but didn't get it done... But those calls that took away 2 TDs most certainly had an effect in the game. Those were BS calls...you can't completely discount them. Bad teams don’t get the calls. Exactly. And they weren’t really that BAD. They were borderline. Bad teams always lose borderline calls.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 11, 2020 19:08:01 GMT -5
It is what it is, and in the end they had a chance to win it but didn't get it done... But those calls that took away 2 TDs most certainly had an effect in the game. Those were BS calls...you can't completely discount them. Yeah, and Dallas lost Dak. Lets be clear, we wouldn't have even sniffed a chance at a win today if Dak was healthy. This team is crap, had a chance to win, but found a way to lose anyway. We lack talent on all sides of the ball. This is the NY Football Gettlemans, and that suck to watch.
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Post by McCherry on Oct 11, 2020 19:08:19 GMT -5
We need a mother fu**ing pass rusher! How do we still not have a legit pass rusher? Carl Banks is harping on this right now.
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 19:08:58 GMT -5
Bad teams don’t get the calls. Especially in Dallas The Fleming call was bogus. I get the call, but to say he wasn’t set is bullshit.
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Post by McCherry on Oct 11, 2020 19:09:36 GMT -5
Bad teams don’t get the calls. Exactly. And they weren’t really that BAD. They were borderline. Bad teams always lose borderline calls. Should've been up by 8 points on the Cowboys final drive.
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Post by boxcarwillie on Oct 11, 2020 19:09:42 GMT -5
Dalton was an 8 year starter right up through last year. FWIW Yea but he's a backup now. With what two or three back up linemen protecting him? Yeah. Our defense didn't step up.
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Post by gmen21 on Oct 11, 2020 19:10:36 GMT -5
We need a mother fu**ing pass rusher! How do we still not have a legit pass rusher? We have a ton of cap space the next 2 years and teams will be over the cap Thats how,you get that piece when you have the foundation I’m so frustrated. So sick of losing and this crap roster. What this season is showing is DG has failed as a GM. I just can’t believe all this losing.
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Post by yoho on Oct 11, 2020 19:10:53 GMT -5
The pass pro needs to get better. No QB is going to thrive with the pressure Jones is seeing on a consistent basis. Thomas is going to take some time. We better pick up a veteran RT in the off-season, because we don't have time to let another rookie get up to speed. This goes back to Reese never drafting linemen high in the draft. This was a game where penalties took points of the board for us. It's maddening but I still like what the coaches are doing with what they have. Pugh 1st round 2013 Richburg 2ne 2014 Flowers 1st 2015 Pugh wasn't stellar, and injuries got him Richberg kind of the same. And Flowers, I think we can say was a miss altogether.
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 19:10:55 GMT -5
We'd all be happier, an more perceptive, if we'd think in terms of "coach Judge's first year" instead of "the 4th crappy year in a row". Hard to think that way. So far, he’s accomplished shit. Only thing saving himself from the onslaught is he’s 5 games in, and has a silver tongue. Fans ate his shit up when he came aboard.
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Post by Merc on Oct 11, 2020 19:11:23 GMT -5
It is what it is, and in the end they had a chance to win it but didn't get it done... But those calls that took away 2 TDs most certainly had an effect in the game. Those were BS calls...you can't completely discount them. Those calls and the lack of calls on Dallas for holding/pass interference and the bs call on our center make it difficult to win.
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