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Post by mainegiantsfan on May 20, 2018 12:21:25 GMT -5
I think one or more of them will be trusted starters. And I'm fine with that. I do secretly hope that none of them turn out to be the next Aaron Rodgers. I like your thoughts on the QBs but I think Webb is going to have a harder road. It ain't fair but he's not the FO's or coaching staff's guy. I agree about Webb. He has essentially also lost a year. He would be at more risk of being let go before his opportunity comes. I hope that doesn’t happen |
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Post by mainegiantsfan on May 20, 2018 12:32:48 GMT -5
I like both of our young QBs. The potential is there, and the make-ups are similar. I hope that Webb is given more time to show what he can do, considering he spent the year on the bench last year. Does anyone know what in particular caused this to happen???
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Post by Fletch842 on May 20, 2018 13:33:32 GMT -5
I thought Webb looked pretty good last pre-season, all things considered. If Lauletta ends up better, he should be pretty good. I like the competition there, and that they have different skill sets.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 14:22:15 GMT -5
Why, thank you! And, might I say...your fantasies are quite descriptive  Thank You Sir ! but, the Giants taking a QB with the #2 pick was your fantasy,  These smiley things are cool ... lol Yep, my fantasy was dashed along with my other fantasy of the Giants winning two more Super Bowls in the near future  Yeah, I do like these emojis  |
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Post by jerseyrattler on May 20, 2018 14:24:36 GMT -5
Thank You Sir ! but, the Giants taking a QB with the #2 pick was your fantasy, These smiley things are cool ... lol Yep, my fantasy was dashed along with my other fantasy of the Giants winning two more Super Bowls in the near future  Yeah, I do like these emojis  You keep the Faith my friend popcorn |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 14:29:21 GMT -5
Yep, my fantasy was dashed along with my other fantasy of the Giants winning two more Super Bowls in the near future Yeah, I do like these emojis You keep the Faith my friend  I'm trying P-) |
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Post by giantsalmon on May 20, 2018 22:17:47 GMT -5
It's going to be interesting for sure. I trust Shurmur will have full authority to play/insert who he feels is the best guy once Mara is comfortable moving on from Eli. I was one who was comfortable with the Giants trading out or taking Barkley. I think Webb has the goods. As I have expressed before, the Giants draft as a committee and the Maras do have some say in the QB drafting. I don't think it's a coincidence that two different GMs were a part of drafting the last two Senior bowl MVPs. Anyway, Eli is an excellent role model for these guys and I will enjoy the pre season more than usual.
Don't know why I couldn't use my last username but I was LakeO fan on a different forum that is being shut down.
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Post by saygone13 on May 21, 2018 2:03:55 GMT -5
Give me Webb. Based off of college tape, which is all we can judge them both on, he has the most potential to me. Even though Lauletta was a 4th round pick, I never really understood the hype around him (Steal of draft, Jimmy G, Sleeper) etc. But as some of you said, hopefully one of them can turn into our next QB. With those skill positions on offense, they both must be eager for their chance to prove themselves.
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Post by colonelcoughlin on May 21, 2018 2:13:18 GMT -5
Webb, outstanding work ethic, a son of a coach, with a good arm and year in the NFL behind Eli Manning. No doubt in my mind he should be able to compete for a starting job here or elsewhere
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Post by TCHOF on May 21, 2018 6:52:41 GMT -5
Webb, outstanding work ethic, a son of a coach, with a good arm and year in the NFL behind Eli Manning. No doubt in my mind he should be able to compete for a starting job here or elsewhere No doubt in your mind? Hmmm |
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Post by GameTime on May 21, 2018 7:25:47 GMT -5
whatever comes of Webb or Lauletta I hope the org has a good plan in place to develop these kids and actually come to a firm conclusion on whether they will be NFL quality QBs or not.
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Post by colonelcoughlin on May 21, 2018 8:38:56 GMT -5
Webb, outstanding work ethic, a son of a coach, with a good arm and year in the NFL behind Eli Manning. No doubt in my mind he should be able to compete for a starting job here or elsewhere No doubt in your mind? Hmmm Not a single damn one  |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 9:31:10 GMT -5
It's going to be interesting for sure. I trust Shurmur will have full authority to play/insert who he feels is the best guy once Mara is comfortable moving on from Eli. I was one who was comfortable with the Giants trading out or taking Barkley. I think Webb has the goods. As I have expressed before, the Giants draft as a committee and the Maras do have some say in the QB drafting. I don't think it's a coincidence that two different GMs were a part of drafting the last two Senior bowl MVPs. Anyway, Eli is an excellent role model for these guys and I will enjoy the pre season more than usual. Don't know why I couldn't use my last username but I was LakeO fan on a different forum that is being shut down. Well, if Senior Bowl MVP is the criteria our front office is using to decide who the best quarterbacks are then...we're in real trouble. Two of the 2018 non-MVPs went in the first 7 picks, while the MVP was drafted in the 4th round. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 9:32:59 GMT -5
No doubt in your mind? Hmmm Not a single damn one  Good to see his agent sticking up for him! |
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Post by colonelcoughlin on May 21, 2018 10:00:38 GMT -5
Not a single damn one Good to see his agent sticking up for him! Someone has to after McaDidnt |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 10:27:06 GMT -5
Good to see his agent sticking up for him! Someone has to after McaDidnt The only quarterback McAdouche tried to screw over was Eli. |
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Post by colonelcoughlin on May 21, 2018 10:31:37 GMT -5
Someone has to after McaDidnt The only quarterback McAdouche tried to screw over was Eli. Mcadoo’s ill-advised decision to go to Geno when the season was already over hurt the short term development of Webb and the giants in general. |
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Post by TCHOF on May 21, 2018 11:37:07 GMT -5
The only quarterback McAdouche tried to screw over was Eli. Mcadoo’s ill-advised decision to go to Geno when the season was already over hurt the short term development of Webb and the giants in general. McAdoo was the one who pushed to draft Webb and didn’t feel like he was ready to play. What does that tell you? |
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Post by colonelcoughlin on May 21, 2018 11:56:39 GMT -5
Mcadoo’s ill-advised decision to go to Geno when the season was already over hurt the short term development of Webb and the giants in general. McAdoo was the one who pushed to draft Webb and didn’t feel like he was ready to play. What does that tell you? It tells me McAdoo had poor judgment. |
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Post by GameTime on May 21, 2018 11:58:34 GMT -5
Mcadoo’s ill-advised decision to go to Geno when the season was already over hurt the short term development of Webb and the giants in general. McAdoo was the one who pushed to draft Webb and didn’t feel like he was ready to play. What does that tell you? he could have found out real easy by having him play instead of Geno as part of the "going forward" plan. Mac is/was not ready to be an NFL HC. |
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Post by EliQB10 on May 21, 2018 20:13:47 GMT -5
McAdoo was the one who pushed to draft Webb and didn’t feel like he was ready to play. What does that tell you? It tells me McAdoo had poor judgment. +1 |
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Post by scrimmage on May 21, 2018 21:54:02 GMT -5
Whoever takes over after Eli is certainly going to have a nice group of weapons to work with, that's for sure. Webb has the arm strength and physical tools and the extra year of learning under Eli, but to me Lauletta looks like the more natural passer, and maybe most importantly, is the guy the current organization drafted, so Gettleman and Shurmur are most likely more attached to him as the successor. Lauletta looked very good in college throwing those intermediate 10-15 yard passes very accurately ala Jimmy G, but let's see if he do the same thing when his time comes in the NFL. All in all, preseason is gonna be very exciting to watch this year with the two young QBs dueling it out.
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Post by giantspride4life on May 21, 2018 23:05:37 GMT -5
Whoever takes over after Eli is certainly going to have a nice group of weapons to work with, that's for sure. Webb has the arm strength and physical tools and the extra year of learning under Eli, but to me Lauletta looks like the more natural passer, and maybe most importantly, is the guy the current organization drafted, so Gettleman and Shurmur are most likely more attached to him as the successor. Lauletta looked very good in college throwing those intermediate 10-15 yard passes very accurately ala Jimmy G, but let's see if he do the same thing when his time comes in the NFL. All in all, preseason is gonna be very exciting to watch this year with the two young QBs dueling it out. Definitely excited to see these guys in preseason. Will make it a lot more fun. |
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Post by TCHOF on May 22, 2018 4:35:54 GMT -5
McAdoo was the one who pushed to draft Webb and didn’t feel like he was ready to play. What does that tell you? It tells me McAdoo had poor judgment. In pushing to draft Webb? |
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Post by Speedman on May 22, 2018 11:41:14 GMT -5
It tells me McAdoo had poor judgment. In pushing to draft Webb? In not having him ready to play. |
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Post by Merc on May 22, 2018 20:37:04 GMT -5
The only thing that will piss me off in this situation is if one of these QBs ends up good and the Giants let him get away. The only thing that will piss me off is if both of these QBs end up mediocre and at least one of Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, and Josh Allen becomes a franchise quarterback. A scenario, by the way, that is more likely than not  OK, tell me which one. The Giants only had one choice and none of these QBs were a sure thing. Barkley on the other hand is as close as you can get to a sure thing at RB. |
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Post by brownelvis54 on Jul 23, 2018 17:44:01 GMT -5
The only thing that will piss me off in this situation is if one of these QBs ends up good and the Giants let him get away. How are we defining good? One or more of them may certainly turn out good. Good = better than Dave Brown |
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Post by Jomo on Jul 23, 2018 18:45:44 GMT -5
I was having a convo with a friend today about life after eli and if webb or lauletta could be the answer and wanted to see what you guys thought. I think they are in a great situation for success for a few reasons. 1. From all accounts all 3 qbs we have are extremely hard working and spend countless time training and watching film. With the work they put in and having eli to learn from thats gotta count for something. Not to mention having both of them competing with each other will drive them both. 2. Shurmur is known for developing quarterbacks and will have at least 1-2 years to work with these kids before one of them has to take over. 3. When they do take over we should have a fully rebuilt Oline, Barkley, and most likely beckham not to mention engram. So they should be put in a very favorable offense with lots to work with. I think between these 3 things they are definitely set up to reach their full potential. Wether their full potential is good enough to be a quality starting nfl qb, well that's the million dollar question. What do you guys think? I think that drafting top QBs in the first round is a real crap shoot. Drafting guys below that is an even greater crap shoot. I hope that one develops into our next franchise QB but until I see it, I am not counting on anything. |
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Post by jmike on Jul 24, 2018 11:01:53 GMT -5
For the time being, the Giants have chosen to address the future at the QB position with 2 lottery tickets — Webb and Lauletta. Could they win the lottery and have one of these QB’s turn into a championship caliber QB? Yes, but the odds of that happening are low. spot on |
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Post by jmike on Jul 24, 2018 11:06:18 GMT -5
Webb may be less of a lottery ticket.
Shumer hopefully saw enough tape of Webb running the scout team to determine that there is enough there to work with. I can't imagine he would know much more than that, but it's something.
After doing all that he still went out and spent another mid-round draft pick on a QB though .... When you have slim odds, it doesn't hurt to double your chances. |
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