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Post by te88 on Mar 16, 2021 8:57:02 GMT -5
Congrats to Dave Gettleman
Almost every Reese player is now off the roster.
It’s taken a few years but Goal #1 - the exorcism of Jerry Reese and Marc Ross - is nearly complete.
Who’s left? Engram and Shepherd?
What an achievement
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Post by Roosevelt on Mar 16, 2021 9:09:04 GMT -5
The misses and mistakes from both Gettleman's and Reese's tenure are evident and it's very easy to get down right now as our better players sign elsewhere and and we sign guys deemed inferior.
But this feeling can change in hurry and I'm looking forward to it.
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 16, 2021 9:18:20 GMT -5
Congrats to Dave Gettleman Almost every Reese player is now off the roster. It’s taken a few years but Goal #1 - the exorcism of Jerry Reese and Marc Ross - is nearly complete. Who’s left? Engram and Shepherd? What an achievement I’m not one for blaming the fire on the matches. Which players from the 3-13 Jerry Reese and Marc Ross roster did you feel should have been kept? |
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Post by te88 on Mar 16, 2021 9:35:58 GMT -5
Congrats to Dave Gettleman Almost every Reese player is now off the roster. It’s taken a few years but Goal #1 - the exorcism of Jerry Reese and Marc Ross - is nearly complete. Who’s left? Engram and Shepherd? What an achievement I’m not one for blaming the fire on the matches. Which players from the 3-13 Jerry Reese and Marc Ross roster did you feel should have been kept? Current offseason: Wayne Gallman Dalvin Tomlinson Previous: JPP Devon Kennard Romeo Okwara Ross Cockrell (he was a FA or trade so maybe not a Reese guy in the purest sense..but a solid veteran corner who was on the roster) And I might even say Weston Richburg When I look at who was brought in to replace these players in 2018 I see no improvements. Centre seems to have turned out ok with Nick Gates. But he wasn’t the “solution” in 2018. Richburg was a starting centre for the 13-3 2019 49ers that had the leagues 2nd ranked offence. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 16, 2021 15:37:57 GMT -5
I’m not one for blaming the fire on the matches. Which players from the 3-13 Jerry Reese and Marc Ross roster did you feel should have been kept? Current offseason: Wayne Gallman Dalvin Tomlinson Previous: JPP Devon Kennard Romeo Okwara Ross Cockrell (he was a FA or trade so maybe not a Reese guy in the purest sense..but a solid veteran corner who was on the roster) And I might even say Weston Richburg When I look at who was brought in to replace these players in 2018 I see no improvements. Centre seems to have turned out ok with Nick Gates. But he wasn’t the “solution” in 2018. Richburg was a starting centre for the 13-3 2019 49ers that had the leagues 2nd ranked offence. OK. I can't honestly say I don't miss any of those guys and none of them made any difference to the team's fortunes obviously nor the teams they went to, but it's cool Opinions vary, that's what makes it interesting. |
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Post by thetruth on Mar 16, 2021 17:20:18 GMT -5
Congrats to Dave Gettleman Almost every Reese player is now off the roster. It’s taken a few years but Goal #1 - the exorcism of Jerry Reese and Marc Ross - is nearly complete. Who’s left? Engram and Shepherd? What an achievement As Jerry's Reese's only living fan I can tell you Jerry and I appreciate your thoughts. |
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Post by imgrate on Mar 17, 2021 14:08:51 GMT -5
Congrats to Dave Gettleman Almost every Reese player is now off the roster. It’s taken a few years but Goal #1 - the exorcism of Jerry Reese and Marc Ross - is nearly complete. Who’s left? Engram and Shepherd? What an achievement As Jerry's Reese's only living fan I can tell you Jerry and I appreciate your thoughts. I always like JR. My opinion of him dwindled when he stopped drafting pass rushers and started drafting running backs, guards, and tight ends in the first rund |
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 17, 2021 15:27:15 GMT -5
As Jerry's Reese's only living fan I can tell you Jerry and I appreciate your thoughts. I always like JR. My opinion of him dwindled when he stopped drafting pass rushers and started drafting running backs, guards, and tight ends in the first rund Other than a handful of folks, I don't think anyone here hates Reese. He holds the ultimate mic drop: 2 Lombardis. |
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Post by BlueReign on Mar 19, 2021 7:05:35 GMT -5
Reese gave us two Super Bowls...he's earned that respect.
He also completely failed to build upon those successes...he's earned that derision.
Overall, he'll be remembered as a really good GM who squandered what should've been a much longer championship window.
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Post by te88 on Mar 25, 2021 12:13:02 GMT -5
Reese gave us two Super Bowls...he's earned that respect. He also completely failed to build upon those successes...he's earned that derision. Overall, he'll be remembered as a really good GM who squandered what should've been a much longer championship window. I think the squandering was a collective effort by him, Coughlin, Mara and the rest of the Giants brain trust at the time. I don’t put it on him at all. He was probably the most competent guy out of the bunch...well, him and Coughlin. But Coughlin had more warts in my view. |
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Post by snyder55 on Mar 25, 2021 16:16:56 GMT -5
Reese gave us two Super Bowls...he's earned that respect. He also completely failed to build upon those successes...he's earned that derision. Overall, he'll be remembered as a really good GM who squandered what should've been a much longer championship window. he never built on what he had that was working and just let it all waste away by making excuses... |
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Post by Jomo on Apr 9, 2021 20:58:46 GMT -5
Too much anger festering here for what has been a very good off season for the Giants.
Smile, relax, it is all good.....until proven otherwise. Let's enjoy it and let go of things that don't matter going forward
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 9, 2021 21:07:18 GMT -5
Too much anger festering here for what has been a very good off season for the Giants. Smile, relax, it is all good.....until proven otherwise. Let's enjoy it and let go of things that don't matter going forward Love ya Jomo but it's not good until proven otherwise. Too much losing in the last decade. The front office and coaching staff has a lot to prove. They haven't done anything yet.....except spend a crap load of money this off season.
But, I am optimistic for 2021.
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Post by Jomo on Apr 9, 2021 21:19:08 GMT -5
Too much anger festering here for what has been a very good off season for the Giants. Smile, relax, it is all good.....until proven otherwise. Let's enjoy it and let go of things that don't matter going forward Love ya Jomo but it's not good until proven otherwise. Too much losing in the last decade. The front office and coaching staff has a lot to prove. They haven't done anything yet.....except spend a crap load of money this off season.
But, I am optimistic for 2021.
Yes but there is plenty of time for angst....we've had too many lessons in that for a decade so for now....it's all good. I am not turning naive, just trying to be optimistic when the evidence of failure is not yet overwhelming. I can fuss with the best of them but not 12 months a year. I need my optimistic pause from February to September. Join me or at least let's see what the draft brings us. |
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 9, 2021 21:22:20 GMT -5
Love ya Jomo but it's not good until proven otherwise. Too much losing in the last decade. The front office and coaching staff has a lot to prove. They haven't done anything yet.....except spend a crap load of money this off season.
But, I am optimistic for 2021.
Yes but there is plenty of time for angst....we've had too many lessons in that for a decade so for now....it's all good. I am not turning naive, just trying to be optimistic when the evidence of failure is not yet overwhelming. I can fuss with the best of them but not 12 months a year. I need my optimistic pause from February to September. Join me or at least let's see what the draft brings us. Optimistic?....Absolutely. I expect 11 wins this year....minimum.
But they still have to prove it. Dave has been dreadful, which is why we had to spend all that money this off season.
Thank God Joe is here, but he has too prove it as well.
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 9, 2021 21:56:34 GMT -5
Too much anger festering here for what has been a very good off season for the Giants. Smile, relax, it is all good.....until proven otherwise. Let's enjoy it and let go of things that don't matter going forward Good post my man |
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Post by Jomo on Apr 10, 2021 15:27:42 GMT -5
Yes but there is plenty of time for angst....we've had too many lessons in that for a decade so for now....it's all good. I am not turning naive, just trying to be optimistic when the evidence of failure is not yet overwhelming. I can fuss with the best of them but not 12 months a year. I need my optimistic pause from February to September. Join me or at least let's see what the draft brings us. Optimistic?....Absolutely. I expect 11 wins this year....minimum.
But they still have to prove it. Dave has been dreadful, which is why we had to spend all that money this off season.
Thank God Joe is here, but he has too prove it as well.
It feels different but I can't argue on this point. It has been so painfully long, they don't deserve any slack from us until they prove it on the field. No hall passes for these guys. |
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